The View has declared men useless on mainstream television

crookedsummer2019 · 2024-05-05T23:23:38+00:00

I’m all for calling out misogynist views but I find misandry just as disgusting and don’t think it should be acceptable to convey in the mainstream media.

UnhappyInevitable680 · 2024-05-05T22:54:10+00:00

Lots of “why do you care” in the comments. Next time Andrew Tate dumps on women I’ll be there to remind them not to care, no big deal who cares, stop being sensitive

RequisiteTaco · 2024-05-05T22:00:44+00:00

The view had Sharon Osbourne joking around about a man getting his penis cut off and tossed in a garbage disposal a long time ago, it’s routinely been a great example for how spiteful, immature, and toxic women can be for years.

The only difference is that society turns a blind eye towards it.

Meanwhile misogyny is rampant because men are upset about some Warhammer lore . . . .

Tokimonatakanimekat · 2024-05-05T21:57:30+00:00

Let's just be useless, fight this war Gandhi-style. Crack open a cold one, grab a snack and move only when movement is necessary for getting another round.

Maybe indoctrinate redeemable simps into following as well.

DumbWordsmith · 2024-05-06T11:44:08+00:00

When all of your basic needs are being met, it's easy to blame men for your lack fulfillment due to your selfish, vain, shallow, overindulgent approach to life.

The women on The View have everything they're told they should want but still feel empty. That's why they're lashing out.

Many of the feminists here, both female and male, are eager to brush things like this off because they want to avoid cognitive dissonance at all costs. They can't admit they were misled by people who don't give a shit about their wellbeing. They can identify the grifters in the manosphere, but they can't see that they were taught to be mindless consumers themselves.

Sad_and_grossed_out · 2024-05-05T22:06:39+00:00

TIL the View is still a running show LMAO. Who even watches that show anymore I haven't seen anything about it in over a decade, that shit was cringy middle aged stay at home mom programming when I was in elementary school 😭

Concreteforester · 2024-05-06T02:23:19+00:00

For all those who couldn't bother to google The View's ratings (and there's so many I don't have time or the energy to individually call you out).

For the 1st quarter, [of 2024] The View” ranked No. 1 in Households (1.71 rating) and Total Viewers (2.512 million) among all network and syndicated daytime talk shows and news programs

(from https://www.dgepress.com/abcnews/pressrelease/the-view-ranks-no-1-in-households-and-total-viewers-among-the-network-and-syndicated-daytime-talk-shows-and-news-programs-for-the-week-of-march-18/#:~:text=ABC's%20%E2%80%9CThe%20View%E2%80%9D%20delivered%202.512,Data%20from%20Nielsen%20Media%20Research).

It was the top-rated daytime show just a couple of years ago (https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/the-view-ratings-2021-2022-1235342918/).

All of this could be found if any of you whose argument is "no one watches this LOL stupid men" know how to use google - I have to assume you can't, since this took me less than 5 minutes to find.

And if your counter-argument is "no one watches TV in the daytime old people are dumb LOL" please go ahead and we can then discuss how voting works and who reliably votes to elect leaders that pass laws and how that can be important, once in a while.

EDIT: also never make an argument about anything a man says on anything other than nationally broadcast nightly news or youtube videos with more than 15 million views, since you know...anything less no one is watching, so hey - why do you care so much about it.

UnhappyInevitable680 · 2024-05-05T22:15:43+00:00

To clarify normally I don’t care about what the hell anyone thinks about men as a whole or whatever but the not caring itself overtime is becoming the big issue. Men constantly just shrug everything off and just let women shit talk us and have fun bashing men as a whole because we are just chill and non chalant and thick skinned but now it has gotten to a scary point seeing this segment air in the cancellation era and nothing happens to this show. There is a real cultural problem going on with the genders.

Sharp_Engineering379 · 2024-05-05T23:04:07+00:00

The View audience is comprised of non working, post menopausal retired women. The program has the lowest ratings of any talk show in history.

Nothing could be farther from “mainstream television”. Are you men recording this show? It’s mentioned here far too often, unless the men who post it are ancient.

MDF87 · 2024-05-06T09:41:39+00:00

The View are a bunch of perpetual bad take shrieking harpies.

SoldierExcelsior · 2024-05-05T22:28:15+00:00

What else us new women are a protected class they can say stuff like that for the most part it has never affected anything...but I an hearing reports of men being discriminated against in the work force and male applicants applications being thrown out by female hiring managers...

Women have all these complaints about men but when they come into power they are no better..maybe even worst some of what men did atleast had some practical merits.

Diamond_Claws · 2024-05-06T00:04:44+00:00

The View is equivalent to if the KKK had a syndicated television show where they just yelled the n-bomb for an hour straight.

Sadsad0088 · 2024-05-06T04:56:44+00:00

This low hanging fruit misandry to me tells more about the person spewing it and those who cheer on it

Suspicious_Glove7365 · 2024-05-06T02:07:18+00:00

I’m usually one to debate against TRP men here, but even I can admit that that kind of talk, especially on national TV, is very inappropriate and does a lot of harm. They certainly don’t share my views. I’m a staunch feminist, but I don’t think men are useless. Any statement that says “ALL men are [insert negative trait]” is dumb and incorrect, and mostly just serves to push borderline feminist men staunchly into anti-feminist territory.

Do I think this can be equated with Tate speak? No, because while both are dumb, i find the View speak to be more of a passive negativity towards men. Tate speak generally is pro-aggression, rape-sympathizing, obviously to no one’s surprise, he got busted for sex trafficking, and very domineering towards women. He encourages men to act aggressively towards women. The View thing is more about ignoring men. And I think that is important to note. They both suck tho. I only wanted to point that out because comparisons are being made in the comments.

I’ve included calling out people who say general negative sentiments towards all men into my identity as a feminist. You can do that and complain about all of the ways women are mistreated at the same time.

KSD171 · 2024-05-05T22:50:56+00:00

They did? I’m shook…

justforlulz12345 · 2024-05-06T11:27:48+00:00

I don’t give a shit about mainstream tv it’s slop meant to “entertain” lead poisoned boomers

keepinitreal567 · 2024-05-05T22:13:05+00:00

The View is just a woke propaganda machine. Pray it gets cancelled.

KarmaCameleonian · 2024-05-06T12:14:34+00:00

The View is a group of old hags, they can declare whatever they want but no one takes them seriously

RIchardjCranium · 2024-05-06T12:57:37+00:00

I wonder how many male technicians work on their crew to make the show happen.

HereForaRefund · 2024-05-06T02:21:44+00:00

Tell me you've never seen Y: The Last Man without telling me that you've never seen Y: The Last Man.

Hatespanch · 2024-05-06T16:04:59+00:00

You can do a lot of things when you divide people in two or more groups and make them hate each others.

Divide et impera.

krayon_kylie · 2024-05-05T21:53:46+00:00

the view has always been r*tarded dude

Pathosgrim · 2024-05-05T23:39:04+00:00

The view represents westernized women and these opinions that they espouse are mainstream and supported. Nothing can be done about it, so just don't pay attention to it.

gntlbastard · 2024-05-05T22:07:48+00:00

Women said something? Was it anything important? No? Okay.

Hi-Road · 2024-05-05T22:09:19+00:00

People say all kinds of dumb stuff.. men rag on women.. women rag on men.. there's no "war" lol people are just in their feelings and running their mouth. Be healthy enough to be able to ignore dumb shit, cause dumb shit will always be around

MassiveAd1026 · 2024-05-06T11:10:19+00:00

The vast majority of the Police, military, engineers, electricians, plumbers, miners, home builders, and auto mechanics are men.

I guess they forgot to mention that.

MistyMaisel · 2024-05-06T01:00:33+00:00

I'm getting the sense this may be the first time you've watched the view. They've been saying shit like that since I can remember.

It's just not news. I dunno what to tell you. That show has been a hen jabber fest since ever. Its like saying can you believe Michael Bay blew up a city in his latest movie...yeah?

No-Search6744 · 2024-05-06T07:12:18+00:00

Who cares what a bunch of babbling bitches have to say on morning tv? Who even watches tv anymore?

babazuki · 2024-05-06T10:42:46+00:00

https://youtu.be/F7dxUka_apo?si=lWaaICQBzdFWrnM1

This one?

Yeah, disgusting how 2 women share how much the appreciate their husbands and the others jump on them as if they're misguided.

When they are miserable, they need everyone else to be miserable too.

They can't say "Oh, good you like your husband. That makes me happy for you." They are filled with venom.

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ChiBron86 · 2024-05-06T14:21:19+00:00

There's a reason why the RP and manosphere rose in popularity. This is it right here. 50+ years of blatant misandry wasn't going to go unchecked forever. And then women have the gall to feign shock over men's response.

boredguywastingtime · 2024-05-06T14:36:03+00:00

That is probably because most of the men their age are dead.

UnhappyInevitable680 · 2024-05-06T15:11:02+00:00

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analt223 · 2024-05-06T17:47:52+00:00

keep in mind the view is at the youngest a middle gen xer (early-mid 50s) talk show. Really its for oldest gen X/youngest boomers.

Their era is different than the social media world which took off around 2007ish. They live in a bubble that is (ironically a bit) conservative and behind the times.

Flightlessbirbz · 2024-05-06T21:07:25+00:00

I absolutely agree this shouldn’t have been allowed on national TV, but I do have to question the relevance of The View in 2024. I don’t think the gen z and millennial “social justice warriors” are even watching it, it’s basically boomer rage bait.

Salty-Entertainer-29 · 2024-05-06T21:15:41+00:00

The View and much of TV now simply panders to DUMMIES.

kitterkatty · 2024-05-05T22:49:11+00:00

Why do you care what the view thinks? People don’t even care enough to respond to them being that way which doesn’t mean their perspective is anything it just means they don’t make a dent in the collective psyche. Hang out in dude spaces :) that’s my advice.

Healthy ones where guys are doing cool things like... the apex games or music scene or sports or biking or cars or if you’re a writer there’s tons of guys writing great things. Woodworking. Some guy made tables out of epoxy denim on yt and it was so cool.

itsnotgoingwellll · 2024-05-06T14:32:41+00:00

It's true though.

MyHouseOnMars- · 2024-05-05T22:20:11+00:00

Are you mad at boomer humor?

MongoBobalossus · 2024-05-05T22:00:27+00:00

Man, if only anybody under the age of 45 have a shit about the View, that might actually be relevant.

edgyny · 2024-05-06T12:04:03+00:00

The View doesn't cause men to commit suicide.

Perfect-Resist5478 · 2024-05-05T22:09:56+00:00

The link, if anyone wants to watch the clip

They talk about how women are more collaborative than men. They also talk about how they need their specific husbands. One talks about how her kid said he wanted a “second mom” so that, at bedtime when mom is paying attention to the other kids, he has someone who pays attention to him. Makes me wonder where his dad is…

This is tongue in cheek and quite obviously not a serious renouncement of the need for men on a societal level. And there’s plenty of it on the other side- Fresh n fit, Andrew Tate, Jordan Peterson. Except those guys are actually serious

ATasteofTx214 · 2024-05-06T01:58:04+00:00

Men simultaneously boast about refusing to be used and adamantly reject the idea of women desiring them for utility over lust, yet are offended by being called useless? This is coming from the logical sex?

Intellect7000 · 2024-05-05T21:52:23+00:00

Thie subreddit have the same thing with men calling women useless and that men don't need women etc.

nopridewithoutshame · 2024-05-06T16:35:30+00:00

People on TV said things I disagree with waaaah! feints and dies

Legitimate_Reply_537 · 2024-05-06T03:01:29+00:00

it's normal to hate women in media

shockingly_bored · 2024-05-05T21:50:55+00:00

Not giving a shit isn't the same thing as a war. Women just don't care, that's all it is.

Whoreasaurus_Rex · 2024-05-05T23:00:01+00:00

The View? Didn’t even know that show was still on. The only reason I knew it even existed was because of the occasional kerfuffle the hosts had amongst each other. Who TF cares about something so irrelevant?

superlurkage · 2024-05-05T23:42:03+00:00

Oh, today?

Solondthewookiee · 2024-05-06T01:19:01+00:00

What more proof do we need that there is a war on men?

Boy howdy wait till you see what Andrew Tate said.

Astarionfangirl · 2024-05-06T04:39:28+00:00

Probably because their bosses are men?

ScreenTricky4257 · 2024-05-06T16:23:25+00:00

I tend to agree.

Men are useless on network television. Who watches network television?

Cethlinnstooth · 2024-05-06T02:05:56+00:00

Then if women have come to expect men are useless, be a man who isn't useless. If you're not actually useless and can and do prove it, the View has in effect been working for you...right? Suddenly you're a creature like no other. Just by...not being useless.

just_a_place · 2024-05-06T02:59:49+00:00

You act as if men give any kinds of fucks about what women say.

We are not women, we are not vulnerable to getting our feewings hurt because a bunch of hags said some ignorant shit on TV.

Men need to stop fucking acting as if we are women ourselves, as if we need to be put under special treatment n' shit the same way women are because they can't fucking handle words and get their feewings hurt over the weakest shit.

Title	The View has declared men useless on mainstream television
Author	UnhappyInevitable680
Upvotes	192
Comments	463
Date	May 5, 2024 9:48 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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