What exactly did TRP teach you that normal dating advice doesn't?

xFallacyx69 · 2021-07-20T17:56:46+00:00

Honestly it just confirmed my suspicions regarding how women’s issues are mainly the result of their poor vetting tactics.

I angrily (and possibly drunkenly) googled “why do my exes STILL want to have sex with me despite being in a healthy relationship with dudes that are better for them” after I noticed a trend with the women in my (sexual) life.

TRP wasn’t the top result but the “truths” of the sidebar (not the mainly LARPing Reddit group) described EVERY encounter I have had with women personally or via a friend.

UniverseCatalyzed · 2021-07-20T17:06:23+00:00

I'm not a TRPer but here are some social instructions given to men/boys that are well-meaning falsehoods at best, contrasted with TRP's occasionally unpleasant truths:

Bluepill "Just be yourself" vs. redpill "be the best version of yourself." Nobody deserves love/sex just for existing, you have to compete for the attention of the opposite sex and make sure you maximize every positive characteristic you have control over to be attractive to women.
Bluepill "women want kind men" vs. redpill "women want valuable men." There are lots of genuinely kind and considerate men who don't get what they want out of their sex lives because in their constant kindness/inoffensiveness they aren't demonstrating enough value. Women don't want beige nice guys, they want men who aren't afraid to be polarizing and say/act how they want regardless of other's opinions.
Bluepill "women are inherently more valuable, first on the lifeboats, etc." vs Redpill "don't put women on a pedestal." I actually think there are good reasons to protect women socially (it takes a lot more women than men to sustain/grow a population) but teaching men to idolize women is not good for their dating outcomes. Women want men who have options and are a "win" for her to be with. Being with a man who already idolizes her isn't a "win" because it's too easy, there's no tension, she already knows she has him. Men who convincingly demonstrate they have enough options, don't idolize the first woman who will fuck them etc. are far more attractive.

truthteller8 · 2021-07-20T17:19:04+00:00

The "manosphere" in general taught me how important conventionally accepted physical looks are.

In my youth, I was fully indoctrinated into the "girl eventually falls for her kind, geeky looking friend after she eventually realizes how much of an asshole the hunky football jock was" type of Disneyesque platitudes.

bison5595 · 2021-07-20T19:41:13+00:00

Here is what I learned:

The red pill gave actual explanations of how attraction works. People usually say things like, Just be confident". Nobody actually broke it down in detail what that means and how it works with women.
I didn't understand I had to be masculine and be a leader. I bought into the strong independent nonsense
If you want to be successful with women, you can't just be yourself if you're not naturally attractive. You have to put in hard work of staying in shape, eating healthy, staying on your purpose.
Women don't care about your feelings or struggles. That's life, deal with it.
Determine what type of woman you want. What do those women want. Do you have qualities that they want? If not, are willing to put in the work to be that person.
There are more attractive women than high value men.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2021-07-20T17:08:14+00:00

"Go find some who loves for who you are" - that's pure bullshit.

"If you are kind enough and give her attention, she will come" - more bullshit

"women are angels" - even more bullshit.

Overall it taught me that women are as nasty as men. Which makes life a lot easier because I already new how to deal with men.

Overall, TRP taught me to say no when needed and to stand my ground. To not be a pathetic yes man. It taught me to pick my battles and it also taught me that fuck it, my self improvement is for me and myself only.

Exciting-Necessary-5 · 2021-07-20T20:56:57+00:00

On top of most of the other points mentioned here, for me, the most striking are:

"Men have to become, women just are"

"Males are disposable, in contrast to the female"

"Women wait at the finish line and pick the winners"

And most important of all:

"Women are biologically incapable of understanding the plight of men"

This last point is why I pretty much ignore female advice given on this sub, I'll hear them and be entertained, but overall I ignore it.

StarchRunner · 2021-07-20T19:01:26+00:00

Don‘t be "yourself".

cvbreakthrough · 2021-07-20T17:04:18+00:00

Red pill is the first time relationships made sense. I was blue pill and all my experiences contradicted what people told me about women and dating. I was now able to succeed since I’m understood the game I was playing.

SylvestorTalone · 2021-07-20T18:43:48+00:00

The dispelling of the romantic notion of love and it's replacement with the pragmatic notion of value.

There isn't this force out there called love, how it actually works is you have a perceived value based upon attributes like height, looks, and money, and that determines how you'll be treated.

get fit, to dress better, to get a haircut, to be more confident and to get a hobby

That isn't the Red Pill, that's your attempt to make the Red Pill look like a bunch of stuff you're supposed to know anyway. The Red Pill is get jacked, make money, and then act like you know you're jacked and have money. This is just more Blue Pill gaslighting, as if mainstream society doesn't try to deny and conceal Red Pill truths.

skunkbear444 · 2021-07-20T18:54:54+00:00

The biggest one is that from early dating years 14-23 women are looking for pretty boys, exciting guys, guys with defined style and outfits, guys that have leadership positions in student clubs & organizations. Young boys at the age of 13 of whenever they get interested in girls should be told the truth about how to be successful dating at a young age.

Much of the blue pill advice tells men how to prepare to be a left over man women choose from after the age of 25.

_Neon_Shadow_ · 2021-07-20T19:55:22+00:00

How looks are 90% of what women care about. How to escalate. How to stop putting the pussy on a pedestal. Valuing myself over women. I've only dealt with shit test in high school, but I can easily navigate them now. How women "work." Etc, etc, etc... it really changed my life for the better and made me more confident. I can bag women easily now, but I'm at a point where I no longer care for them. I'd rather pursue my life's purpose than chase used pussy nowadays.

My evolution was something like: BP>Feminist>RP>PP>MGTOW

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-07-20T17:23:09+00:00

Treat women with indifference vs being nice to them.

manfrom-nantucket · 2021-07-20T17:29:28+00:00

Never pedestalize women.

throwacomment-789 · 2021-07-20T19:19:54+00:00

Ignore what people sat, watch their actions instead because people will talk a big talk.

EstablishmentKooky50 · 2021-07-20T21:02:06+00:00

Be your own mental point of origin. Know who you are, what you want, and put in the work to achieve it. Hold your "frame" Don't commit before the age of 30-35. Do not pedestalise women. Do not apologise for shit that does not worth an apology. Do NOT be in touch with your feminine side and do NOT show weakness to your partner. Things like this..

odd_cloud · 2021-07-20T18:42:04+00:00

The most important discovery for me was the 20/80 rule. It just explained for me a lot of what is happening with dating, both personally and generally. That is a foundation on which everything else is built.

Also, some minor ideas that found useful from the trp: 1. Do not put women on the pedestal. 2. Attractive personality =/= "good" personality. 3. Act as not very interested in the woman. Before I learned this I could appear as needy. 4. The importance of game. 5. Do not be yourself. Women standards are quite narrow and similar, and many guys won't fit them if they stay themselves.

PebbleYote · 2021-07-20T20:57:35+00:00

Do not believe anything whatsoever that women say, only observe their behavior. She'll lie and say whatever she thinks she needs to in order to get what she wants, but her behavior will show you what she actually thinks, and how to manipulate her in order to get what you want.

Do not ever show weakness in front of women. This is a bit of an extension since women lie constantly about wanting to know your weakness, but that's generally just to get ammo to use against you when she's mad. Regardless, women loathe weakness no matter the reason for why she wanted to see it, and is the single best way to end a relationship. On the other hand, if you want out of a relationship, the best way is to cry in front of her. Guaranteed she's going to be running for the hills ASAP, and you skip all the mess about "hurting" her by dumping her first, if you're worried about that.

yzyszn4ever · 2021-07-20T18:33:22+00:00

Specific details about women's nature e.g. lightbulb effect, shit tests etc etc that people like OP would dismiss as misogynistic but are valuable keys to people who use it.

nofap_champ · 2021-07-21T00:27:41+00:00

A lot.

Regular dating advice doesnt touch on hypergamy. RP created awareness on it and teaches us how to use it to our advantage.

Regular dating advice doesnt touch on preselection. RP creates awareness of it.

Regular dating advice doesnt offer much options for men to PROTECT ourselves from women. There is an underlying assumption that women dont hurt men or at least not that often. And if they do, we can just deal with it.

There are other things as well, these are just off the top of my head.

I highly suggest reading RP material.

youarockandnothing · 2021-07-21T06:49:38+00:00

That "nice girls" are sexual beings too, and they can never truly like a guy who doesn't turn them on, just like the "bad girls". AKA the antidote to the Madonna/Whore Complex.

Aldabruzzo · 2021-07-20T18:19:15+00:00

First: Cite to people saying

"but TRP helped me immensely by teaching me to take a shower, to get fit, to dress better, to get a haircut, to be more confident and to get a hobby"

What you're really seeing there is men saying that other men were reorienting them to how important these things are. Men had forgotten this and hadn't learned it or internalized it in part because they were listening to women "being nice" and "not wanting to hurt their feelings". These women were giving them platitudes like "just be nice, just be yourself" and "looks don't matter all that much" and "you're fine, just go out there and be nice and be yourself" and "you don't need to change".

Second:

TRP teaches you to stop doing the stupid shit you were doing and that it's not attractive. Simping is not attractive. Stop doing things for women. Stop arguing with women you're not fucking. Stop spending money on women you're not fucking. Stop giving things to women, stop being their 'friends', stop revealing things to women.

If a woman is not fucking you, don't spend ANYTHING on her. A woman should get NOTHING from a man she's not fucking - not time, not attention, not money, not resources of any kind.

Stop listening to women. Stop listening to what they say. And stop asking them. Don't listen to what women say. Watch what they do. Watch who they show interest in. Watch who they go home from the bar with. Watch who they hook up with. Watch who they date.

TRP teaches you about male and female sexual nature; hypergamy, what women really find sexually attractive, that looks matter much more than women are willing to admit, spinning plates, avoiding oneitis, and that women have no actionable advice for men on anything.

TRP helps you identify women to avoid - mentally ill women, borderline personality women, substance abusers, single moms, divorced women, never married women over 30, women from broken homes, women with high Ns. It also helps you identify the red flags and telltale markers these women display, so you can see and avoid them.

TRP teaches you what it looks like when you're being used, when a woman is using you or trying to use you, when she's lying to you, how to avoid being used, and how to confront and walk away from such women.

TRP then teaches you to walk away when you're not getting what you want. It tells you about oneitis and how to avoid it. It tells you to "drop the plate" and move on. It tells you there is no point in continuing to try once a woman has expressed disinterest - directly counter to most advice which is to keep trying, or try another approach from a different angle, when a girl is passively showing disinterest.

their idea that women hate compassionate, empathetic and nice men

Women hate compassionate, empathetic, and "nice" men who are sexually unattractive. Too much compassion, empathy, and niceness cancel out sexual attractiveness - and THAT is what TRP teaches.

Women do like compassionate, empathetic, and nice men as friends and emotional tampons.

misogynistic views on women

You mean our telling the truth about women? Our telling the truth about the unsavory, unseemly, shallow, superficial, bitchy things women do? Our accurate and truthful observations about what women do? Our calling women out on the carpet for the shit they pull and the bitchy things they say? You mean that "misogyny"?

idrinkapplejuice42 · 2021-07-20T20:32:35+00:00

I love how trp is simultaneously an extreme misogynistic worldview that doesnt match reality, but is also a truism that is totally exactly what blue pillers already think. Lol choose one.

XtoDoubt · 2021-07-20T17:00:59+00:00

The fake quote you made up is BP advice. To be specific, it taught me game, why game works, and long term dating strategies, like spinning plates, how to do it properly, and when and how to get into an ltr.

WilliamWyattD · 2021-07-20T17:55:41+00:00

Above all, TRP told me to question the prevailing overall cultural narrative about gender. This narrative that gender was a social construct was essentially crafted in a way that it was almost unfalsifiable by the casual observer. It explicitly acknowledged the reality of all the traditional gendered behavior, but said that these were outdated results of a disappearing culture. So you could expect to see many exceptions to such traditional gender psychology, and these exceptions would grow every day.

So sure, you'd see the movie about the nerdy guy getting the decently pretty girl based on common interests and being kind. Then you'd see that the girls at the cool kids table in high school were all pretty, and the guys were all a combination of good looking and high status. But you'd say that the movie was the future; the head cheerleader and the quarterback was the past. You could behave in a way adapted to the future, and bank on finding enough exceptional girls to keep your 'dance card' full until marriage. You didn't have to concern yourself with any of the ancient wisdom about male and female expectations.

TRP, even when it was wrong, and it was wrong a lot, showed me that it is possible for conventional narratives to be total bullshit. There are no adults in charge of the world. What everyone knows about everything is very often total crap, and not just with respect to gender roles. Coincidentally, I was learning this lesson about the conventional wisdom in other disciplines at the same time I encountered TRP (then mostly PUA-based) in the late 90s. So these insights reinforced one another.

4D-Alien · 2021-07-20T20:11:14+00:00

bluepill is "virtue signaling", "feel good", generic feminist tier advice for men, and that doesnt work to make men a attractive partner. bluepill advice will make a man a good asexual friendzone guy for a girl. but not a partner lol.

redpill is pretty legit basic facts that can actually help you get a girl, if you have what it takes to even get that far. some of redpill is cringe tho and too tryhard. "hold frame bro!" lol cringe.

blackpill is the brutal truth that some guys, no matter how hard they "redpill", will never get a girl cuz they never will pass the looks threshold. and also blackpill is the brutal truth about how women act and what they are really about. blackpill leaves zero sugar coating and many will veiw it as "racist", "toxic", "misogynistic", when in facts its nothing, its simply just the brutal facts of life about how it really is. nothing more nothing less.

TrueCenterRealist · 2021-07-20T17:07:14+00:00

The only thing TRP taught me was that my initial understanding of women, and how to interact with them, was correct all along. Thought I was just crazy for a long time.

stats135 · 2021-07-20T17:58:54+00:00

The advice and the "misogynistic views" are one and the same.

Lets just use one example. When the advice is to dress better and focus on looks, then that means women fuck men who focus on their looks more than men that focus on other aspects aka women are shallow. The advice and the "misogynistic views" come hand in hand, "dress better" inherently implies "women are shallow."

Pilling_it · 2021-07-20T17:53:29+00:00

Aaaand you clearly has no bias yourself.

Well, it explained how women's attraction work, and even in small interactions it keeps on making sense. Unlike the garbage we're given.

The importance of looks, not to put them on a pedestal, to get my ass in the gym, that success attract women but not the other way around, that kind of stuff? Take some time reading the sidebar yourself, and challenge it to reality.

Puzzleheaded_Bet7294 · 2021-07-20T18:15:01+00:00

As someone else said already, the importance of conventionally attractive looks. And sure, I knew looks mattered. But as I grew older, I was shocked at how similar the tastes of all women were, despite age, race, religion, level of education, etc.

If you are not tall, white, handsome, no girl is going to want to get near you enough to learn about your personality, intelligence, humor, hobbies. If you don’t meet a certain level of aesthetics, you basically do not exist.

Tiny-Toe-5719 · 2021-07-20T17:18:09+00:00

Don't ever be friends with a women.

Playful_Art_5364 · 2021-07-20T17:53:33+00:00

Not TRP but there’s a YouTuber called ToddV. He was a pickup artist kinda dude but now YouTuber that teachs mean.

What he said in those videos worked.

Everything else was non advice.

Just be yourself? I was myself nothing happened.

Just go up and say hi? That’s how to catch a case.

And so on.

But his series on what women really look for and why the respond to things? Worked.

It was like a switch. I never even did pickup. I just adopted the language into my own to talk to classmates and crushes at school just to see if it worked. Got numbers and genuine interest for the first time in my life.

I never really dated for religious reasons. But the stuff that was taught worked on interviews, sales and so on.

I learned that “game” was just how to be speak charismatically. People always refer to me as charismatic now. Not knowing that it’s just stuff I learned being repeated over and over.

I owe that dude a lot. I got better at life as whole. Even though I did nothing he advised on dating. The systemic breakdown of what groups and women liked just was that useful.

NICHIJOU2411 · 2021-07-20T17:36:27+00:00

Definitely not to worry about dating.

Barely-moral · 2021-07-20T19:31:03+00:00

The delivery system is as important as the message. Some people don't get even the common knowledge unless it is said in harsh tones

foreblue · 2021-07-20T20:43:34+00:00

Look, all you have to do is ask random people if they think that male physical attractiveness is the most important quality for women deciding who to have LTRs with. Women or men, doesn’t matter who you ask.

TheInvestor7 · 2021-07-21T09:15:02+00:00

TRP is based on scientific observations, mainly in the field of Evolutionary Psychology. You can't fight science, can you? BluePillers are basically flat-earthers.

michael1962-01 · 2021-07-20T17:13:33+00:00

Awalt. Solipsism. Shit tests. Lot more.

801735 · 2021-07-20T17:52:52+00:00

What TRP teaches, fundamentally is "Don't whore.". It's what most people having problems with TRP have a THE problem with.

Whores whore, it's what whores do. Attention-, recognition-, acceptance-, support-, resources-, delusion-, compliance-,... MONEY! Let's not forget moneywhoring. You name it, all sorts of whores whoringly whoring out there.

odd_cloud · 2021-07-20T19:00:33+00:00

For me, trp value is more in it being in opposite to typical advice you hear like: be yourself, improve your hygiene, women don't care about looks that much, women don't look for relationships mainly, etc.

Fleischpeitsch · 2021-07-20T19:50:35+00:00

I'm not really a TRPer, I think it's primarily a harm-reduction strategy that sidesteps what these men generally actually want, which is to say to be desired and form genuine connections, but one thing that it does emphasize that a lot of others miss is how important it is in a general sense that you present as masculine, even to a somewhat toxic degree. Whether it's biology or socialization, unmasculine men are in for a harder time

It also puts the "superficial" aspects at the appropriate front and center of its advice. A lot of dating advice tiptoes around this, presumably to avoid putting their audience on the defensive, and in so doing avoids giving this the emphasis it deserves.

boomershack · 2021-07-20T22:43:24+00:00

Alot of women like/put up with "misogyny" until they are old and bitter then it changes for some reason.

Great_Future7361 · 2021-07-20T17:06:11+00:00

Many guys who don’t have much romantic success come to the red pill for precisely those reasons. After not being taken too seriously I’m the dating market, and probably other areas of their lives, they want to feel like top dogs and the red pill paints a pretty good picture of that for these guys.

GoodApollo506 · 2021-07-20T19:46:16+00:00

Alright….Here we go!

1) Women only care about three things: Looks, Height and Money….And as a guy you MUST have at least 2 of the 3.

2) A woman knows within 3-5 seconds of meeting you if she’s interested, so you have between 1-3 seconds to make a good impression.

2) If you’re 6’ tall and decently attractive, you could be a homeless heroin addict and still be sought after.

3) It’s only sexual harassment if she isn’t attracted to you, and the only difference between a gesture being romantic/thoughtful/kind or creepy/pathetic is how attracted she is to you.

4) Chivalry is very much dead and nothing dries a pussy up faster than a man who is respectful because women nowadays see that as desperate and predatory.

5) If you’re under 6’ tall, you’re never gonna be anyone’s first choice and if you’re under say 5’10”-5’9”, the best you could hope for is to be friendzoned.

6) Women peak @ 25 and expire @ 30 and the only thing that matters after say 35 is your paycheck.

7) If you as a guy are still single @ 27, you have three options: Fat/Ugly women, Single mothers or just stay single….A wise man opts for option three because at that point, it just makes sense.

8) It’s not a matter of IF, but WHEN she cheats.

9) If she “wants to take a break” or “slow down”, it means she found someone better.

10) All of her “guy friends” are trying to fuck her and she most likely gets off on the attention.

11) Funny people are not attractive, Attractive people are funny……Nice”, “Cool”, “Chill”, “Funny” and especially “Sweet”…..all code for “Sexually invisible.”

bonus

13) Taking dating advice from a woman is like taking fishing lessons from a fish.

ffandyy · 2021-07-20T20:35:29+00:00

The Redpill is even more toxic than FDS, and that’s saying a lot

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IOportA · 2021-07-20T18:37:54+00:00

What is normal dating advice?

If it's what I heard growing up, it was wrong, and the red pill taught me that.

TheChocolateBarsGuy · 2021-07-20T19:24:15+00:00

Well the RP didn't teach me much compared to what i already knew !

I come from a European/Middle Eastern upper class family. I was raised very masculine and not taking any shit from a woman. My upbringing was completely different to most modern Western men.

I personally found out about the RP because in high school in my group of friends there were two camps. The asshole bad boys who played sports and the nice guys. Us assholes did way better with girls compared to our " nice guy " friends. Although we were all objectively good looking guy. I would go as far as to say some of the nice guys were taller and probably better looking.

But they were bunch of fucking pussies. They would always complain about their girl problems but they would never take our advice.

Somehow one day i ended up watching a video about why women prefer bad boys over the nice guys. That is how i found what the RP was.

For me it was just part of my upbringing. Being masculine and a leader was always something required of me.

The RP is still a great guide for men who did not grow up in a household were they were actually taught how the real world works and how to handle it. I am happy that it exists and i have learned a few new things from it too.

ToastyNathan · 2021-07-20T19:47:21+00:00

I got specifics. I asked about things like chemistry and flirting. The only advice I got before would be "be yourself", which is garbage advice at best, and 'fake it till you make it'. Thats it. No answers to questions about what any of that means or why I should do it. Also learned about timing and how long is too long to ask a woman out. Normal advice tells me to ask any woman anywhere or dont ask at all. No inbetween or grey area.

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-07-20T21:55:10+00:00

Nothing really, my parents , specifically my father always gave me solid advice combined with experience and just common sense, certain red pill guys may put something in a way that sounds cooler though lol

RiseSignificant9499 · 2021-07-20T22:00:57+00:00

TRP I think is targeted for us men that come from broken homes, specifically absent or abusive fathers.

This then translates to fantasizing about that disney shit and treating women considerately and marrying the one. But, thats not a good tactic to keeping a woman as we all know.

Normal dating advice doesn’t really go into extreme manipulation tactics. The red pill is an all out approach and very brutal. We’re remaking ourselves.

I recently tried one of the tactics, ghosting or “punishing” bad behavior…guess what? It worked and made her over-compensate.

Laytheblameonluck · 2021-07-21T00:24:08+00:00

It taught me about female sexual dichotomy - that women have a sexual dichotomy too. That's essentially the "red pill" moment, when you appreciate that women, and not just men, have a sexual dichotomy.

Women want their Madonna's and they want their Whore's too.

2021-07-21T01:54:38+00:00

What some men actually want is way different than what I thought it was.

Fun_Manufacturer4099 · 2021-07-21T04:37:41+00:00

Well I am not sure exactly sure what everyone gets from TRP. Here is what I know from life. I know I am a high value male and I don't need any woman to agree with me on that. I know it therefore it is true. I make well into the six figure range and I am very physically fit. I have absolutely no problem getting women. So, if a woman wants to be in my life, she has to show me reason to keep her in my life. While I may pursue her in the beginning, I will not stay unless she shows my she is worth it. There are many women to choose from, if a woman I am with becomes irritating, I simply find one that isn't. I do not need a mom, a maid, a cook, or anything like that. I want a lover and a best friend. Either a woman qualifies or she gets out. Her choice. She may not like it but the next one will. I don't date overweight women and I will not stay with a woman that doesn't feel sex is important in a relationship. I am not living my life according to how a woman wants it lived. I live my life according to how I want to live it and either a woman can accept that and join me or she can move on and the next woman will accept it.

PeskyHijinks · 2021-07-21T14:48:41+00:00

Mostly that women aren't worth the effort.

If I wasn't already in a relationship now (10 years going strong thank goodness) I probably would go MGTOW for sure. But not toxicaly so. I wouldn't fume, rant, and rave about women. But I definitely would give them no attention or mental headspace anymore. Besides, I'm of the age now where I kind of prefer my own company and those of a very select few. If my lady leaves me, I'll probably drop out of the dating market. I wouldn't be totally shut down and I would leave my options open, but I would not longer actively seek women.

Some of this is my own preferences though. I grew up in a very unstable and very drama filled environment. I've had so much drama in my life that I have almost no tolerance for it any longer. I've worked exceptionally hard the last ten years to excise as much drama from my life as possible. Dating and relationships are inherently filled with drama, and what the average woman wants in a physically unattractive man like me isn't worth the effort and internal emotional drama to obtain. So I'm not blaming women for this specifically. It's also my own hang ups. But my point is that the red pill taught me that women, in general, just aren't worth the effort for me personally and from what I want out of life (peace of mind without intense emotional drama). Plus the juice just isn't worth the squeeze.

WarriorInTheGarden1 · 2021-07-21T17:16:19+00:00

I think TRP at its core reveals something that we lost in our civilized culture. Essentially, there were two ways that men got their genes into the future: 1) provided and mate guarded successfully; and/or 2) cucked a provider. Women get their genes out there automatically, so it would make sense that they are motivated to get the best contribution. TRP teaches a lot of men (that have usually just been cheated on) that women are designed this way and you need to be on the lookout for it. Also, that there are certain periods of ovulation where women are more actively seeking that type of input and engage in riskier behaviors.

"Ancestral women would have benefited reproductively from selecting partners with characteristics indicating that they'd be good co-parents, such as being kind, as well as characteristics indicating that they possessed high genetic quality such as having masculine faces and bodies," Haselton said. "Women could have had the best of both worlds -- securing paternal investment from a long-term mate and high-genetic quality from affair partners -- but only if those affairs were timed at a point of high fertility within the cycle, and probably only if their affairs remained undiscovered."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/women-may-prefer-masculine-men-for-a-fling-but-only-when-they-are-ovulating/

JustdoingitDNA · 2021-07-22T01:55:19+00:00

That women are (a) naturally manipulative and are (b) blissfully unaware that they're naturally manipulative.

This comment will likely turn into a post soon enough.

Think about a baby, a baby evolved to cry to manipulate people around them. A baby doesn't know that that's what it's doing but that's what it's doing.

Practically universally every single woman is irritated by the thought or prospect of her child being DNA tested by the putative father even though it costs like $200 and will forever put to rest paternity anxiety and is overwhelmingly more likely to result in a more committed father.

Why? Most would tell you that the insinuation is insulting, but why? It's insulting to throw shit at me because shit holds bacteria that for most of our evolutionary history was 110% going to kill me. It's insulting to women because the prerogative to obtain the best genes and then choose the best father for your offspring is a useful strategy to you from an evolutionary standpoint. DNA tests threaten that ability. Anything that threatens our evolutionary survival is repulsive. Like venomous snakes, being set on fire, unhygenic behaviour, marrying a whore (to men) or being asked for a DNA test (for women)

TRP tells you that when a woman refuses to agree to a DNA test it doesn't necessarily mean she's cheated but you can't be dumb enough to just trust her and not check. The stakes are too high, it's literally your reproductive life or death.

What exactly did TRP teach you that normal dating advice doesn't?

Comments

3 is very accurate

6 should be #1

Title	What exactly did TRP teach you that normal dating advice doesn't?
Author	Fleischpeitsch
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Comments	467
Date	July 20, 2021 4:49 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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