Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge it

AceOfSpadesGymBro · 2023-09-28T20:48:11+00:00

What do you want us to do about it? A user here reached out to me because I had offered to review anyones dating profile to see why they struggled and provide advice.

In his posts and comments he kept referring g himself as ugly because he wasn't getting many matches. He sent me his profile. The guy is an Uber nerd. Like talking about Pokemons and building robots on his Tinder profile. He had obviously never put much effort in his appearance. No idea why he thought Pokémon, robots and 3D printers would be sexy to any woman even an Uber nerd like him.

So I gave him some extensive tips. He said he will look into it, but chances are he won't bother making any changes.

So I get it. Some guys are really struggling. Also, I don't think those guys are doing anything to change their situation or predicament in life other than fishing around for pity and sympathy. The thing is if we give you pity, we just feed into your defeatist attitude and nothing is changed. You have to be self motivated to change and find success. Nobody else can do it for you.

GoyasHead · 2023-09-28T19:31:03+00:00

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violet4everr · 2023-09-28T22:33:40+00:00

You are correct. The problem is that any solutions people can think of or that “incels” tend to propose involve infringement on other peoples autonomy in a manner that obviously doesn’t fly. It’s hard, there is no clear solution.

It’s why I have a really complicated view of plastic surgery, on the one hand I really dislike the plastic surgery culture of a place like Korea- which seems almost dystopian to me. On the other hand plastic surgery will increase the amount of people able to find love/sex/intimacy. See also “the right to beauty” talked about in Brazilian cosmetic surgery circles.

Safinated · 2023-09-28T21:15:56+00:00

Ok, so how will this be fixed? How do you make women find more men attractive and want to fuck them?

Because if the solution isn’t feasible, society is right to ignore it

Spydive · 2023-09-29T07:50:54+00:00

To compete with the girls you most likely want to date(I’m assuming you don’t want ugly), make sure to have basic hygiene: clean nails, trimmed and plucked eyebrows, brushing teeth 3 times a day/flossing/mouth wash, when’s the last time you wore some nice cologne out? It’s amazing what cologne can do to a woman’s mind - I like to pick out colognes for guys or sometimes I’ll get a smell of a really good one and immediately I want to squish my face into a strangers chest. It’s so weird, very much an impulsive thought but that can take you up so many points. I strongly notice a pattern between guys who feel more confident and get better recognition and them wearing cologne. It really adds points. Do hair cuts based on your face shape(look up face shapes and really compare to find out which is yours and go from there), keep your clothes clean and neat, wardrobe to the female gaze(like with the haircuts. You’re trying to attract women not men! Of course we do the vice versa too). Clothes and hair is just so important. Skin care routine! Every single night and every single morning. Stick your clean finger in rubbing alcohol and do a touch of it on any pimples you see coming or that have appeared. Makes them go away super fast(consistently add on per day or half day until gone). Color coordinate your wardrobe make sure your things look nice and clean like your phone cases, your bag, etc. accessorize don’t be afraid to wear some jewelry. It looks really good depending on your style even just some rings or watches to start out with. Don’t get afraid to look into your skin tone and undertone and get some opinions about if you should add highlights or lowlights into your hair to add more depth to your face and make you stand out more. And the big step: then your body. Women like muscular but lean - don’t get huge like a body builder. Most women like the decent muscular mass but lean(but not too lean to where you look like p*nis with all the veins and things popping out) some veins are of course very good - just don’t crazy with it. Vitamins guys!! Vitamins! A healthy person has a glow to them - get healthier and take your vitamins! Look up body hair trends for you age group as well(and pick something that makes you comfortable - but it goes a long way to help you look out together).

If you want more tips on the smaller stuff lmk! I can’t express enough about the eyebrows one though for guys. Every single guy who is looked up to or is the public eye is plucking, trimming, and shaping their eyebrows. It can truly change your face and eyes for the better!

I can send some wild hair cut videos of guys and these guys who look rough 2-5 become 4/5 - 8 easily(they also change them outta the male gaze clothes and into the clothes women find attractive. The comments are feral- the women find these guys who look meh and you wouldn’t think much of but with some tweaks all the girls are dying in amazement and there’s just thousands of compliments!).

I can help with rosacea, dry skin and/or flaky skin, not knowing what parts of the body to work out and how often, protein amount, calorie amount, helping maximize any type of improvement you want! Weak chin? Outside of mewing and without getting jaw surgery you could get injections of Botox or fillers. Anything you’re worried about I have a hack that will either improve greatly or at least help! Feel free to comment

But the little stuff really adds up! Lmk if you want more tips!

MyLastBestChance · 2023-09-28T23:31:14+00:00

Ok. It causes issues. Acknowledged. Now what?

If someone is not sexually attractive to those that they are attracted to, that is not something that has a societal solution. Government funded plastic surgery, (outside of actual deformities) isn’t going to fix that. The issues are generally far deeper than that. Actually, social skills training, therapy / CBT / DBT, personal care, and career counseling would be far more valuable than indulging someone’s canthal tilt or jawline obsession.

Complaints by these men are almost always around women’s “pickiness” as if women could just change what they’re sexually attracted to if we were truly empathetic and wanted to bad enough and not doing so is mean, selfish and entitled.

These same men will criticize women that they aren’t attracted to, express bitter outrage that women might “settle” for them without being genuinely sexually attracted to them (as if women were somehow more sexually attracted to their husbands when marriage was socially and financially compelled. Hint: they weren’t).

On the edge, we see suggestions that if women don’t become genuinely sexually attracted to men (who they aren’t attracted to) the dickpocolypse will come and women will be forced to be with those men (although if the point is “genuine sexual attraction” I’m not sure that’s going to work…).

So yeah, improve, adjust or accept. Those are really the only viable options.

Spare-Estimate5596 · 2023-09-28T20:20:07+00:00

Lol man. Women will never care.

Business_Window_6232 · 2023-09-29T01:04:53+00:00

I agree. But having a glow up and becoming attractive will not work all the time. Some people have a genetic limit that cannot be surpassed no matter how much is invested into self improvement. This is when other things will be required to be more atrtactive such as verey good social skills, having money, etc.

I feel like the red pill is the only way

some_kind_of_onion · 2023-09-29T09:59:55+00:00

Are you willing to accept sexual attention from women you deem ugly/fat/disabled/unattractive? Or just from the hot ones?

AngeCruelle · 2023-09-28T19:48:15+00:00

Pretty much everyday there seem to be trending articles complaining that young people are becoming increasingly lonely/withdrawn/anti-social. Lack of romantic experience is tied into all of this because social interaction is a prerequisite for sexual attention.

There is no solution that doesn't involve coercion and potential backlash. Tell parents to take away Johnny's PS5 and deal with the ensuing hissy fit themselves? Best of luck with that.

calfshrug · 2023-09-28T21:07:52+00:00

There’s no way, besides polite incentives, changes to media, stuff like that, to ethically get sexual marketplace equality to increase.

It’s just the way it is.

TheRedPillRipper · 2023-09-28T19:24:49+00:00

The solution proposed by the mainstream is forcing you to accept yourself and your lot in life

What is the alternative? To not accept yourself? Your lot in life? It’s not toxic to be realistic. One must first acknowledge, and accept their circumstances. It’s only then, that one can work towards changing them.

Godspeed and good luck!

Woke_Wacker · 2023-09-28T22:49:09+00:00

So, if we look at the stats in the USA (2020 stats so take it with a pinch of salt), roughly 50% of men between the ages of 18 to 30 are single, but that drops to around 27% of men between 30 and 49 and not much of a change after that.

So I would say the prominance of this issue is a little overstated, but half of young men not being in a relationship is probably not by choice in the majority of cases, and I can absolutely see why this can be an issue. I surmise that is why a lot of younger men gravitate towards the red pill. While I'm not 100% agreeable with red pill viewpoints, I can fully back the idea behind working on one's self through physical exercise, education, and brotherhood. Statistically, it would be more important to work on yourself in your 20's to set yourself up for the best chances possible in your 30's and onwards to receive more attention from women overall.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/

megamike382 · 2023-09-29T19:49:53+00:00

Thats probally why more women are more successful than men now a days. An why more women go to college. They've had relationships and sexual attention there whole life. So therefore naturally theyll get better jobs and go to college more. Its hard for a men when you are alone. And women can reproduce so shit there never alone. Unless a woman wants to be alone.

lle-ell · 2023-09-29T05:24:48+00:00

Yes, being unattractive can cause mental health issues. So can tons of other things. Mental health issues are extremely common. And it’s every individual’s responsibility to take care of it.

Big-Stuff3435 · 2023-09-29T01:26:23+00:00

Yup. Girls can get it anytime.

RonMexico432 · 2023-09-28T20:11:37+00:00

Most people need to get over themselves

RRT_2_PA-C · 2023-09-28T19:37:40+00:00

Disagreed. Life goes on and nobody cares if you’re a virgin.

lostnumber08 · 2023-09-28T22:47:13+00:00

OP over here acting like everyone deserves sexual attention; which ... isn't true.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2023-09-29T19:14:05+00:00

What can be done about this? Women aren't going gto statt fukking men they aren't attracted to. The best thing for men who are left out of the the dating scene to do is to self improve and move to a location where women find their phenotype physically attractive

UltimateMelee123 · 2023-09-28T22:57:34+00:00

Make more social spaces in society where men and women can meet 2. Make a drug that makes women more horny, obviously women would voluntarily take it, I’m not sure whether they would take it 3. Injecting testosterone and growth hormone into boys from a young age to make them more attractive

WilliamWyattD · 2023-09-29T05:10:40+00:00

Life is tragic. We are never going to create a sexual utopia for less attractive men. Women will always be pickier than men and less thirsty.

So really, the Devil is in the details here. How picky are women being? What % of men will be sexually excluded? What will be the results for society?

I think it is unclear what is actually going on, including whether female sexual selectivity is reaching dangerous levels or not. I do believe female mate choice is strongly impacted by environment and culture. However, particularly in an individual freedom centered culture, the levers that might reduce female sexual selectivity (if this were desired) are not easy to manipulate. How do you get people off of social media and OLD in the modern West? How do you recreate local community? How do you reinstate more sexual conservatism?

Another point men need to consider is the extent to which men are underperforming rather than women becoming pickier. The TRP line that women only evaluate men relative to one another is total bullshit. Women also judge men relative to themselves, and relative to absolute metrics. It would be wrong to expect men to work much harder than women at being attractive, but it could be that men are not working as hard and the things they are doing are not the best use of their time. There is an argument that men need to adapt to all the changes women have gone through in order to be better partners for the modern woman.

Wolvengirla88 · 2023-09-29T00:58:48+00:00

Women are told we are “unattractive” because we are fat or because we don’t get our nails done and it’s the same men saying that who want female attention without changing anything whatsoever.

Nellylocheadbean · 2023-09-28T21:38:01+00:00

You can always hire an escort. There’s no real solution for this on a grand scale. It’s your own responsibility to do what’s necessary to get the outcome you want.

Veloci-Tractor · 2023-09-28T21:17:52+00:00

if you are developing mental issues because you aren't getting sexual attention from anyone regardless of what classification they fall under

you are mentally weak and so because of that the lack of sexual attention is absolutely deserved

Wicked-sister · 2023-09-29T23:44:24+00:00

So, tldr, Men are weaker than women, gotcha.

obviousredflag · 2023-09-28T19:42:21+00:00

As a guy if you constantly live your life without receiving attention/signals from girls you're going to develop mental issues, most likely.

Very few men get attention from women. Yet most men are in relationships, have regular sex and single digit % go years without sex. When was the last time you approached a woman of your desirability level for a conversation where you ultimately asked for her number? How many times did you do that in total?

You need to be the one sending signals, making approaches, being a guy they then choose to want to spend time with. They are not desperate to have someone talk to them. Your fellow men are doing that for them.

Operatesinreality · 2023-09-29T08:07:59+00:00

Let me enlighten you: I don't care if you or anyone receives sexual attention. I don't need to acknowledge it, I don't need to help, solve or do anything about it.

You cannot get laid? Good. It's your problem, you ain't attractive then. I'm not going to baby you because you are not good enough.

Aromatic_Ad5473 · 2023-09-29T12:27:41+00:00

Most people feel invisible most of the time.

Most women who experience sexual attention, don’t want that sexual attention.

Most women want to be left alone, which is why most women leave other people alone.

If guys are abandoning dating because of rejection, I don’t know what to tell you, this isn’t a new thing. Men have always been rejected. Maybe they used to care less because they knew it was a numbers game.

You don’t usually get the only job you apply for and when you don’t get it, you don’t blame the employer and the entire job market. You just apply for more jobs that you’re qualified for.

“Attention they expected” what attention? What expectations? Why would anyone expect attention?

“Influence the whole personality” it really shouldn’t. Relationships aren’t a personality. Being or not being in one shouldn’t have this much of an influence on you or your life.

A relationship is supposed to enhance your life, not define it.

onion_rings_addict · 2023-09-29T19:43:36+00:00

All could be solved by men lowering their standards to the women that do pay attention to them but this sub isn't ready for that

remember it's you the one with the problem, so you should change

No_Weather6880 · 2023-09-29T03:03:35+00:00

The problem is worrying so much about women think in the first place. I make them worry about me by acting weird and creepy around them in public.

DangZagnutsNewSon · 2023-09-29T02:20:00+00:00

I think women get hornier than men. Cos I'm afab and I'm horny all the time even with lowering hormones from aging. I can cum multiple times. Easily ten times a day and I do that often too. Men outside of teenage years cum once a day, usually by masturbating, and they find even that exhausting. So it's interesting that they are viewed as the more lustful and sexual gender even though they physically and hormonally are less capable of having sex or orgasms as often as people with female sex organs and hormones.

The issue lies in it not being socially acceptable for women to express their sexuality. Every dude on incels.co prob has had women cum to the thought of them countless times. But no one will ever know. Because it's more damaging for women to express their sexuality than the benefit of getting actual sex. Which from an abundance perspective isn't even necessary. Because not only could they get it any time they want they can be ensured gifts, money, and comfort in exchange on top of the physical benefit of the sex alone. Because that's how valuable female sexuality is from being hidden and oppressed. If men wanted more sex they would stop making sex so lucrative for women. A new recent friend of mine is ultra wealthy and he was raped by multiple women so they could baby trap him and be taken care of for life. No woman wants him for him as a human. So he doesn't know actual intimacy or a bond to another. But he also doesn't even know how to pretend to be poor so he pretty much just talks to poor women hoping one will rape him again.

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Lv99_Slacker · 2023-09-30T18:06:37+00:00

So tired seeing these veiled threats of men becoming violent or becoming shitty people overall, because women don't want to sleep with you. It's beyond pathetic. If society is doomed because of this, then so be it.

figuringLifeIsGood · 2023-09-30T18:40:34+00:00

if u want women to be more sexual, u need to encourage that sort of behavior???

Title	Not receiving sexual attention causes lot of issues and society doesn't acknowledge it
Author	l00ks-p1lled
Upvotes	85
Comments	348
Date	September 28, 2023 7:08 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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