Probably a repost but fuck that 'friendzone' bullshit. A good friend is worth more than a good SO

WestAtmosphere · 2021-05-06T14:47:29+00:00

This is why I can't/don't have any close male friends anymore as they end up falling for you, confessing their feelings, and then get mad at you for seeing them as a friend. This occurred in one of my friendships, he took the smallest things and was convinced that I liked him. He even consulted with my other friends and they told him the I don't see him that way. Regardless he didn't take what they said into consideration and sent me a drunk text at 2am confessing his love for me. It was so left field and out of context as we had done NOTHING to lead to that point.

I can think of countless other times where I have had an interest in a hobby and liked discussing it with a male friend, again he took this instantly as romantic. Like ... men really don't see women as people with their own individual interests. If you share a mutual interest they take it as you are romantically into them.

InaneObservations · 2021-05-06T15:03:17+00:00

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fdssavedmylife · 2021-05-06T15:40:37+00:00

Even when I’ve been friends with groups of men, at least one is trying to sleep with me. It’s obvious, because he’ll be super duper overly nice and the rest of the guys just tolerate my presence. What great “friendship” we all had.

judithyourholofernes · 2021-05-06T13:48:06+00:00

This is what they call life on easy mode. A group of people who tend be larger and stronger than us, who have no respect for us, constantly at the ready to scam us into sex.

sveji- · 2021-05-06T12:57:38+00:00

Men think it's bad to be in the "friend zone", try being "fck zoned" by every man you think is your friend. Then we'll talk.

SomewhatVerbose · 2021-05-06T14:32:23+00:00

Yeah I had a whole come to Jesus moment awhile back where I just stopped all of my male friendships. None were my friends, which became glaringly obvious when they either tried to get in my pants or had to stop talking to me when they got in relationships.

I cried one night after a dude I thought was a close friend told me he was getting married (I didn't even know he was seriously dating, that's how low he thought of me) and his fiancée said he had to stop talking to me. I considered him a best friend and he was just waiting for his opportunity. Sucked.

Now all my male friends are related to me. Full stop.

violetdaze · 2021-05-06T15:52:38+00:00

Hey AARON....I know you still stalk me on here. Because i've blocked you from every other aspect of my life.

THIS IS WHY WE ARE NOT FRIENDS ANYMORE. DO YOU FUCKING GET IT NOW?!!?

Cat_With_The_Fur · 2021-05-06T14:36:33+00:00

This is exactly why every third post on askmen is about men being so lonely. Get friends. Yes there is some inherent loneliness in not having a partner but you can get a lot of emotional intimacy through having a variety of friends. If you exclude half the population bc you only want to fck them and don’t think they have independent value to you other than for their anatomy then that’s on you.

2021-05-06T14:25:30+00:00

After posting my first comment under this thread, I read through the rest and I’m so relieved and affirmed. Men are not friends to women. I’m glad it’s so clear to everyone. Socialization won’t allow them to see us as people and won’t allow them to BE real people.

vforvendetta87 · 2021-05-06T13:24:31+00:00

Or better yet, a dude who future-fakes and pretends to care when all he wants is to f**k you. Thankfully the older I get the better I am at spotting these clowns.

IgetUsernameScraps · 2021-05-06T12:47:11+00:00

This reminds me of those movies where the dude dresses up as a woman and deceptively becomes “best friends“ with the woman he likes. Then the gig is up but she forgives him and they become lovers and live happily ever after. 🤮

Ok_Meringue9724 · 2021-05-06T12:52:37+00:00

I saw this thing on the internet and it honestly changed my perspective about the "friendzone". It basically went that guys who say that they are in the friendzone aren't friends at all, and any guy who expects people (and especially the girl he's "friends" with) to give him sympathy, he's an asshole. A manipulative, selfish asshole. Imagine thinking that the only reason to get close to a girl is to find a way to get in her pants. I was shocked when dudes online confessed that they could never just be friends with a girl but atleast they were honest. Male nature is so predatory. 🤮

topmodelbackwards · 2021-05-06T12:57:58+00:00

It's like no, I didn't put you in the friendzone. YOU put ME in the fuckzone.

millennialpink2000 · 2021-05-06T14:06:41+00:00

Sorry my friendship is such a shitty consolation prize

These guys will never learn

PurpleProboscis · 2021-05-06T17:22:39+00:00

Made this comment in a related thread the other day and got hit with "Way to make yourself the victim here too". Well first of all, being turned down by romantic or sexual interest does NOT make you a victim, holy shit. Felt like I entered the Twilight Zone.

thowawaywookie · 2021-05-06T13:56:32+00:00

There is no such thing as a male friend. They hang around for 2 reasons.

They want to fcuk you.
They want something from you. Money, attention, do their work, get them a job, get close to your friend he wants to fcuk .

PeanutButterPigeon85 · 2021-05-06T13:30:40+00:00

Yep. I'm someone who really values and invests a lot into my friendships, and I've learned the hard way that I can't have straight male friends. Every single one of them either tried to make a move, or -- even weirder -- never made a move but then ghosted me as soon as he got a girlfriend.

Also, completely apart from that, I learned during a health scare several years ago that none of my male friends would be there for me the way my female friends were. I was in the hospital for about a week, extremely ill, and every single female friend and coworker that I had came to visit me. All the women I knew asked what they could bring for me. The nightstand by my hospital bed was piled high with gifts from the women in my life. But from my male friends...crickets. I literally didn't hear a word from them the whole week. When I was released, I was covered with black, purple, and green bruises from all the IV sticks and blood draws. My male friends just pretended they didn't see it and never asked me how I was doing. I think that was the final turning point for me.

These days, I'm happy to be on good terms with my female friends' husbands and boyfriends, but I don't kid myself that we're real friends.

GlamorKiss · 2021-05-06T15:54:37+00:00

Friendzone doesn't exist. It's men lacking self-awareness and aiming to get a woman 2-3 leagues above them.

suspended_animation_ · 2021-05-06T13:50:29+00:00

I tried to deny that some of my male friends were like this. But even a nerd like myself have had these dark shadows following me

Zayelle · 2021-05-06T12:37:23+00:00

And that is why I cut off my male "friends". Good riddance.

12thwizard · 2021-05-06T16:19:46+00:00

Literally everything they say and do is predicated on their innate assumption that we're inferior and they're entitled. They resent even having to try and become friends to get into our pants. Hence shaming us for putting them in the 'friendzone'. Fuck off dude, just fuck off. I have zero time for men that don't want to treat women as beings worthy of respect, with rich inner lives. Fuck off.

VallyreMyst · 2021-05-06T14:20:05+00:00

The realization that just about every male "friend" I have had were probably hoping to get me in bed really ruined those friendships for me. I love this post because it highlights the difference between men and women's struggles. Males are upset women won't give them "something" (aka sex) and women are being lied to and led on in in a friendship that's a facade. One is significantly worse than the other. No one is owed sex just because they pretend to be your friend 🤢

chorussaurus · 2021-05-06T16:18:50+00:00

This has slowly become one of the things I hate the most about my life.

soundslikeautumn · 2021-05-06T18:53:19+00:00

When I was in middle school 1,000 years ago I had a lot of guy friends. I grew up with a lot of boys in my neighborhood so I was used to hanging out with boys and having good guy friends from a very young age. So, when I went to middle school and I made a lot of guy friends it didn't phase me at all. I just thought "Cool! New friends!"

I started dating (whatever dating is when you're 13 lol) this guy and all of my friends were totally cool about it and everything was fine. I'll call my boyfriend James. Things got rocky with James after a few months and my guy friends listened to me and were there for me. James and I broke up on a Monday and I VERY QUICKLY learned that I had NO guy friends. By Friday I had all 9 of my guy friends ask me out, tell me how hot I was, confess that they had a crush on me the entire time, try to kiss me, tell me they were waiting for this moment, etc. All 9 of my new guy friends. Within a fucking week I not only broke up with my first boyfriend, but I also lost all of my new male friends because once I said I JUST broke up with James and I wasn't interested, these "wonderful friends" basically told me to fuck off and never spoke to me again and turned into assholes. They were just laying in wait like snakes and faking friendships with me the entire year. I was more devastated about losing friends than I was over my first break up.

redwineandsolitude · 2021-05-06T16:52:19+00:00

I like how it puts the blame on us, like we are actively deciding to put him in the Friend Zone after careful deliberation, like we are all-powerful. No. They pursue us relentlessly. They are active, we are passive. A lot of the times, we are just being polite because turning them down is dangerous and we can get murdered for it. We cannot win. We are accused of “leading them on” when we talk to them like a friend or being an evil witch for not giving him sex. But turn them down? That can be a one-way ticket to the grave.

noseatbeltsong · 2021-05-06T14:38:23+00:00

I lived in the Fuck zone for way too long. I have a BIG BEEF with the “fRiEnD zOnE”. The worst part is that when I was younger I was so naïve to this. I had guy friends that used to do laundry with me, go out to eat and insist on paying, bring me presents for no reason, help me study, help me put furniture together. I was always dating someone else so I was never really an “option” to them or so I thought, not that I was interested in any of them. When I WAS single I would talk about other guys I was dating bc I didn’t realize the one I was hanging out with wanted to fuck me. Only have I realized in the past couple of years that they all wanted to fuck me.

It’s easy to tell bc if you only say yes to things in very public areas like bars and don’t share cars or anything, they stop asking you to hang out. It’s almost like they’re trying to orchestrate a perfect intimate private moment. So when I take the moments away, and just hang out strictly at the bar or something, they stop asking to hang out, and then either disappear or accuse me of friend zoning. I’ve had to become very careful with male friendships in the past few years. The only truly platonic male friendship I have is a man in his late 50s who acts like more of a father. Ex helped me move my apartment, took me hiking, checked on me when I was sick, etc. the rest are all just fronts that want to see if I’ll break down one day and come on to them.

It genuinely makes me upset that I can’t ask a guy friend to go do laundry with me bc it’s either leading him on or just using him for company. I’m doing laundry with a woman tonight, and we’re just going to have fun conversation for the 2 hours that we are doing this boring chore. Why can’t men just control their eMoTiOnS and be normal and not want to mount everything they see?

2021-05-06T14:17:39+00:00

Yeah. I enjoy the friendship of men... when they can show up with their personal ethics in tact. And HVM absolutely show up with their ethics in tact and often have HV wives and gfs that are fun to be around.

superbechidna · 2021-05-06T16:10:30+00:00

Being fuckzoned is so much worse than being friendzoned.

Friendzoned: oh no! She just wants to hang out, catch up with each other’s lives, mutually support and care about each other, and do fun activities that don’t involve sex! So oppressive and manipulative!

Fuckzoned: He’s going to pretend to be my “friend” until I trust him, while biding his time until I’m going through a tough time in my life. And instead of supporting me like I would expect a friend would, he’s going to betray this facade of friendship and try to manipulate me into sex.

It’s literally friendship vs rape.

DontAskTwice-A-Roni · 2021-05-06T14:23:53+00:00

Yeah you can’t claim to be in the “friend zone” if you were just pretending to be a woman’s friend for the chance to sleep with her. If you ditch her because she isn’t sexually available to you, were NEVER her friend.

Men need to be called out for how calculating and manipulative that is. But they’re male so accountability is nowhere in sight.

the-lonely-spirit · 2021-05-06T13:02:54+00:00

I don’t have any girl friends but this bullsh*t is gonna make me start looking so I don’t have to put up with the “friend zone” men lmao

Phoenix__Rising2018 · 2021-05-06T15:32:37+00:00

It's extremely common for them to not even wait for you to agree to have sex with them. They just wait for you to get too drunk to resist or attack you then rape you.

Maude2010 · 2021-05-06T17:59:40+00:00

I’m still hurt that I lost what I thought was a great friendship when my supposed friend leaned in to kiss me one night (after we’d be “friends” for years and I’d never given him the slightest reason to think I’d be interested in anything more), I rebuffed him, and he never spoke to me again. Men don’t have a clue what rejection is.

MorthaP · 2021-05-06T18:31:35+00:00

I literally had a good male friend who one day sprang his crush on me with no previous warning. He acted almost annoyed that I had not picked up on it despite him making absolutely no moves ever. And when I said thanks but no thanks, he became angry and asked me 'so all this time I spent with you has been wasted then?' Like bro how about just.. not lying? If you'd told me from the beginning that all you see in me is something you might one day get to fuck, there would have been no wasted time for either of us. And then they have the audacity to whine how dehumanising being put in the friend zone is or whatever. Be happy that women are still willing to be friendly to men at all after the shit you pull.

Sewud · 2021-05-06T15:43:12+00:00

I studied in a program that was all guys except 2 or 3 girls. I started out teaming up with this girl who dropped out after the first semester, so after that I was flying solo and all my friends were men. There was one girl that I went to parties with and played sports with, but she didn't really hang out with the group. (This girl was an early FDS queen, she took one look and understood that the guys in our program were all ugly, so she went looking elsewhere for HVM, and she found him. He was so handsome, intelligent, paid for everything. I still haven't seen another guy like him. He didn't like parties, but he always gave us rides to and from the party!)

Anyway, basically my friend group was almost all male. We went on trips together and I became friends enough with several of them to see them outside of school, play tennis, watch movies, etc. By the end of college they reached a point where they all had a girlfriend and from there on they just stopped inviting me on trips. It started with like a trip to the beach where they all posed in a group with their girlfriend and now they have yearly reunions where all the guys from college get together and invite their girlfriends. A different guy had warned me that guys don't like girls and that my "friends" were just hoping to sleep with me, but I didn't believe him.

Nymphomaniac12345 · 2021-05-06T19:20:38+00:00

I have zero sympathy for these guys. If you’re not doing anything intimate with a woman guess what she’s just a friend. It’s not rocket science. Yet even when you make it even more obvious and say you only see them as a friend AND talk about your dating life they somehow still think you have been leading them on.

Hippofuzz · 2021-05-06T17:27:42+00:00

YES! I don’t have any friends from high school, cause I was the only girl in the group... I thought our friendships were super tight... well turned out they weren’t. This messed with me for a very long time.

Chubby-Lovie · 2021-05-06T18:02:19+00:00

Growing up I was encouraged to have male friends, and the male friends discouraged female friendship while calling me a slut for having multiple male friends.

I now understand that the reason men assume women who have female friends is because men know about the friend-baiting.

They know that the male friends are likely waiting for you until you are vulnerable with your walls down to con you into sex or an abusive relationship.

ThatIntention1 · 2021-05-07T05:51:53+00:00

Ever noticed how women will never complain about being in the friendzone?

It’s because we actually understand what it means when someone says no.

eatnthrowtrashaway · 2021-05-06T19:32:40+00:00

I always think of the “When Harry Met Sally” quote whenever a woman tells me she’s only friends with men or has a male friend because it’s always true. Men and women can’t be friends because men don’t see us as equals. They see us as potential toys. Nothing more.

It’s really sad but I’ve never had a guy friend who has been an actual friend they were always waiting. The only guy friend I had was a mutual of another girlfriend of mine and he clearly has sexual interest in both of us. She tells me she talks to him and just ignores that part but I couldn’t. I was sick of all the alluding and jokes.

To be completely honest though, typically friendship with a man isn’t even that great for men. It’s a competition over who can look the most alpha deep down and a lot of men can’t even be nice to each other because being nice is “feminine” and would make them homosexual somehow.

GreatOrchidAmbition · 2021-05-06T22:05:40+00:00

my favorite is when they try to keep you as a friend to triangulate you, make you do emotional labour, and for what? so i can be around someone mediocre? no thanks.

shapelessdreams · 2021-05-07T07:42:24+00:00

Yeah I came to this sad realization a couple of years ago. Outside of LGBTQ circles I don’t really hang with men. They’re usually just looking to either fuck you or to have a “listening ear” aka to become their emotional labour mule so that they can level up and leave you in the dust after you helped them become better.

I am not a build-a-boy workshop- they can go talk to their emotionally unavailable friends and cry about it alone. Time and time again the Oedipus complex is proved right. All men want is a mom. 🤮

Kristeninmyskin · 2021-05-06T19:16:40+00:00

Male friends = opportunistic sharks

juicy_lime · 2021-05-07T04:43:15+00:00

It's so nice to see everyone's comments here confirming what I've thought for years but never been able to articulate. I used to be really hurt about losing my male "friends" when they inevitably confessed feelings or tried to hook up with me. I used to think it was my fault for leading them on and hurting them. So glad to have outgrown this mentality. I no longer seek out or invest in male friendships like I did as an insecure teen/young adult.

Also, friendships between males SUCK. They're shallow, low-key abusive, and not supportive at all. You're a guy and you think your buddies will be there when you hit a rough patch? Good luck!

lucidlotus · 2021-05-06T18:49:51+00:00

My dad was my more attentive parent so I grew up giving men far too much benefit of the doubt and expecting women to be more distant. As a result I had many male "friends" for decades. It took me a while to identify and revise my inaccurate perceptions.

Post-FDS I've seen that nearly all of them have trampled my boundaries or worse in some way so I've distanced myself. (I also see I had soft boundaries with them like I did years ago with my dad.) They also expect a crazy amount of emotional labor. Even the less harmful ones don't contribute enough to my life to warrant keeping them there.

I'm enjoying having mostly female friends who are worth their weight in gold. I have more energy for those friendships now that I'm not putting any into the men.

all_or_nothing_bet · 2021-05-06T18:25:57+00:00

Omg, yes! I have been trying to articulate this for decades and always get roasted by men AND women! Finally someone gets how I feel about male-female "friendship"...

Sure, there are rare exceptions where a man would be a sincere friend without any hidden agenda, but most of the time, sadly, they are only waiting for an opportunity to fuck their female "friend".

cece188 · 2021-05-06T20:42:46+00:00

Men do not see us as fully human. This, and many other examples prove this narrative over and over again.

2021-05-06T19:18:52+00:00

That revolution hit me back in college. It's why I make it very clear to male friends that that is all they will ever be to me. Afterwards, I see whether they were truly my friend or viewed me as a 'prospect'.

throwawayaway033677 · 2021-05-06T12:39:38+00:00

I've had three male "friends" end our friendship when I told them I was only interested in them as friends. They pulled this "oh then it's too painful to be around you" and stopped being my friend. That shit sucked bc I enjoyed our friendship and thought they did too, but instead they were treating me like an investment. And my incel-ass brother when I told him responded with "just give him some." As if my body is some candy that I can just give away to placate someone. The disrespect.

One of them tried reaching out years later when he was moving to another state asking to see me before he leaves. And I simply responded "no." I felt bad about that for a while, but no he betrayed the friendship with his gross ass intentions. Now I'm so hesistant with male friendships,

Delilahh12345 · 2021-05-06T23:08:57+00:00

Yep, happened to me. I was so pleased and happy to have a new friend, to think someone really wanted to spend all that with me just because they liked me for me. I ended up introducing him to my roommate because I thought they might hit it off. They did and he ends up dating her. A few years later, he tells me all that attention he gave me when we first became friends was because he was interested in me sexually. Not only hurtful to learn, but he said it in front of my rommate/his gf which now makes our friendship kinda awkward. I used to be proud of the fact that I helped a couple find each other but now I feel bad about getting my friend stuck with an LVM.

maraslove · 2021-05-06T23:47:08+00:00

I stopped having a guy friend a year ago. I had enough of someone new trying to be with me yet again. I’m tired of always being some type of agenda or finding myself in some bullshit abusive relationship because that “friend” fell “in love” with me. They’re garbage as friends and as partners. No more.

Connect_Chipmunk_691 · 2021-05-06T17:50:09+00:00

This right here! I wonder how many of our male friends were actually ever our friends.

Longirl · 2021-05-06T18:46:25+00:00

I’ve been friends with a man for 24 years (since we were 14) and he’s become fixated on having sex with me for the past 2 years. He dresses it up as wanting a relationship with me, we’d make a good couple blah blah but I knew the truth would out. I put him on bumble when it all first started and he ended up living with a woman for 1 year. He noped out when she asked him to start paying rent, I’ve called him out really bluntly on this and to quote him ‘£800 isn’t a lot of money to live with someone but it is when you don’t want to be with her’. I told him he shouldn’t have been with her then.

He’s stepped up his game the last few weeks and started coming round helping me with DIY stuff that I can’t do myself, bringing dinner (we were still in LD). I told him again straight 2 weeks ago that I wasn’t going to sleep with him and all the reasons why we aren’t going to be a couple.

Over the last few weeks of spending 1:1 time together I’d discovered so many red flags that I’d never have recognised if it wasn’t for FDS. Looking at him as a potential partner instead of just a mate was really uncomfortable too. I just kept thinking ‘if I met him out and he wasn’t so open with me I would fall for him so hard’.

Anyway, he was due to come round and help me install some locks and cameras (I had an attempted burglary the day before our big talk) and he just disappeared. He messaged me a week later with some flimsy excuse. I blanked him and then bumped into him at a huge train station in central London yesterday! So I called him out on his shit again, he apologised, got defensive, apologised.

I think he’s gonna try again. I’d block him but he’s part of a group of 6 of us that have been friends forever and it’ll get awkward. It’s just silly now.

dominicanpowerhouse · 2021-05-07T00:02:28+00:00

Posts like these is why I really value you ladies!! I've never felt so alone in realizing that men and women want different things out of friendships. Lost a lot of good "friends" once I became single and they started acting different. An unfortunate lesson but one that needed to be learned :(

Determinedblonde · 2021-05-06T14:15:53+00:00

When I meet a woman with a lot of man friends I know she either has low self esteem, isn’t smart, is a bigot, or all 3. There’s no way you found that many decent man “friends”. 2 man friends and I’m already suspicious.

2021-05-06T20:43:56+00:00

YES how sad is this when this happens? I can’t tell you how many times I’ve lost friends.. guy friends lol I thought were friends after I got married. Most of them just flew the coop. It’s just as well. A lot of them I was tolerating stupid bullshit from so as not to seem bitchy, god forbid

Low-Big-1911 · 2021-05-06T16:13:59+00:00

That’s why I no longer have guy friends. I am done with them. All of the wanted to fuck me. I never have felt so stupid and blind then when I fully realized that they were just waiting. I never did with any of them. One by one I asked them and they all said of course and that we’d have a great time. Promptly deleted and blocked them all. Never again.

lolmemberberries · 2021-05-07T00:04:38+00:00

Yep, this is why I started distancing myself from 99% of my male friends.

adalovelace1793--- · 2021-05-06T23:36:34+00:00

Agree, the Nice Guy scrotes will pull all the brakes when their intentions are not met. Fuck them! Never give such scrotes a chance.

Skittleschild02 · 2021-05-07T02:47:34+00:00

I had a “guy friend” pulled this shit. He thought I had a crush on him and started getting real social media flirty with me. Killing part; he has an entire girlfriend. The girl cooks him meals, meeting the family, and hanging out with his friends. When he found out, it wasn’t him. He got weird and started making shade Facebook post towards me. He blocked and hidden himself from his snapchat stories. But hangs around my facebook to see if I post anything.

Like, what the fuck? His true colors were loud and clear for me.

bmstf · 2021-05-06T13:31:57+00:00

A couple of years ago, back when I was a pickme, I met a guy on OLD and we agreed we would be friends.

He was so much a LVM that he tried to take advantage of my generosity on many occasions. This included ghosting me for two weeks when I refused to bring him food from my apartment to his. Needless to say, he is out of my life now and has been for two years. Best decision ever.

I am new to this sun and I wish I’d have found it years ago. I’m now in my late 40’s and have learned so much. It’s making me less of an angry middle aged woman 😆

Keep it up!

winterbird · 2021-05-06T16:59:48+00:00

We're in the fleshlight zone. Not the zone where you actually connect human to human, talk and laugh, share your dreams and hopes (aka the friend zone). No, we're in the load relief zone with 99% of other women.

2021-05-07T15:24:20+00:00

Yep. I’ve always had plenty of “male friends” around and they’re either so uninvested as to be mere acquaintances or they’re wanting physical activity.

The only real reciprocal male friendships in my life are my actual biological brothers. And even there, the birthday remembrances, the appearances at big life events (graduation, babies, new homes, weddings, etc.) was pretty spotty before my sisters-in-law entered the picture. I don’t know if it’s socialization or just self-absorption, but a lot of men’s friendships with each other are oddly self-serving as well.

lnbrrnt · 2021-05-19T16:58:10+00:00

Truth being told Worst feeling ever

Undercoverghost001 · 2022-09-01T07:59:53+00:00

That’s why the only male friends I have nowadays are gay.

Rhcpchick88 · 2021-05-06T14:33:51+00:00

Thank you! I’ve been saying this for 15 years, since I was a teenager!! I had (and still have) a few good male friends and I’ve always thought this. Over the years they’ve dwindled because of this reason. I have solid friends now though!

Title	Probably a repost but fuck that 'friendzone' bullshit. A good friend is worth more than a good SO
Author	CityOfBirth
Upvotes	9114
Comments	166
Date	May 6, 2021 11:50 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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