Do extremely loyal men exist or are they only acting?

Ok_Impact2910 · 2021-11-30T15:32:59+00:00

I'm a guy and I'm the same way. We exist.

Slipthe · 2021-11-30T15:39:58+00:00

I happen to be someone who does not feel attracted to others when I'm already in love with one person.

But for how long?

I understand being satisfied to the point where you don't seek out other avenues, but never feeling attraction to another soul for the rest of your life seems unrealistic.

John_Oakman · 2021-11-30T16:00:09+00:00

Yes but probably not in statistically significant numbers, and that number drops even further once you factor in your additional requirements.

modidlee · 2021-11-30T18:45:39+00:00

I don’t masturbate. Not saying I never have though. But when I was in a relationship and watched porn alone it felt like cheating to me. When I’m single and watch porn I feel pathetic afterwards. Like that time could’ve been spent doing more productive things. But when I’m in love with someone I fantasize about sex with them. Not saying other people aren’t attractive. But the intimacy with someone I love who loves me back makes superficial fantasies feel mediocre in comparison.

dbz19 · 2021-11-30T15:42:38+00:00

Wanking to porn of another woman doesn't mean you're in love with her or view her anything than a means to get off in the next 5 minutes. There's nothing emotional or about "loyalty" there.

Yes extremely loyal men do exist. Even if your definition is not watching porn when in a relationship, lots of men fulfil that and have sex with their wives regularly instead of masturbating or watching porn.

BassPotato · 2021-11-30T16:07:17+00:00

They exist, are you selecting for them tho?

Philip8000 · 2021-11-30T15:46:25+00:00

Yes, loyal men do exist, plenty of them. We might notice an attractive woman, but acknowledging beauty isn't the equivalent of actually wanting to do anything with them.

You state many of the replies are claiming they're lying to look good. Well, how the hell would they know? Not only that, I expect some of them are merely claiming this to be assholes.

NockerJoe · 2021-11-30T15:46:05+00:00

One thing I see a lot of on reddit is women wanting a guy whos sexuality mirrors theirs exactly and getting mad when they find its not the norm.

No attraction to others isn't the mark of loyalty. Loyalty is not acting on it. The idea that you need to be the only person who's inside someone else's head indefinitley isn't really the norm or how most people work, and its not exactly something you can screen for easily.

EstablishmentKooky50 · 2021-11-30T16:20:08+00:00

I have never cheated in my life. If i feel the need to cheat, i'd rather break up.. My word is my bond, if i said i won't cheat it means i won't cheat, and not because i don't have options..

JustStatedTheObvious · 2021-11-30T15:57:18+00:00

Those who insist they speak for every man are too scared to speak for themselves.

Or too stupid.

Does it really matter which?

ecedecides · 2021-11-30T17:42:58+00:00

That's demi-sexuality. I am demisexual and I don't find people attractive unless I have an emotional connection with them too. It means, I can acknowledge someone looks conventionally better than someone else when I think of it, but seeing an attractive man or woman won't make me wet. It will leave me totally indifferent.

Some men are that way too. They only feel attraction for people they développed an emotional connection with.

Also, I noticed, lesbians usually dont get as easily turned on as men. They could look at a naked woman and they won't think "SEXXX". Men are so simple and I learnt that the hard way, so thankfully I am bi and have a girlfriend right now who doesn't get aroused when seeing skin or confuses acknowledging beauty with visceral attraction, because Gosh that's so embarrassing.

TheX141710 · 2021-11-30T17:58:46+00:00

I’m a guy, so take what I say with a grain of salt as I haven’t dated any men, BUT I have met quite a few (still rare though) guys who are incredibly loyal from as far as I could tell. However, with many of them I have also noticed they are very cold personalities. Not mean or anything, but the type of person to answer “I don’t really like music” when you ask them what their favorite type of music is.

Very anecdotal, I know, but that’s a pattern I’ve noticed.

razormachine · 2021-11-30T15:43:54+00:00

When I was in relationships I did find other women attractive and I had fapped thinking about my GF and also watching pornstars.

I never found other women to be more attractive then my GF, better looking yes but more attractive no. And I never acted upon it.

Except that one time I groped her friends ass thinking it was my GF.

kittenated · 2021-11-30T16:48:23+00:00

Would you maybe be looking for a demisexual man? Someone who only experiences a sexual attraction for a person when there's an emotional bond. I'm not sure, but that seems like a potentially good way of weeding out men who feels attraction for random women based on her looks.

januaryphilosopher · 2021-11-30T16:52:10+00:00

I'm dating one, and I'd be similar, but I think it's rare overall for men and women (I'm not sure if it's entirely the same as what you're talking about but essentially the idea of having sex with someone you're not in love with freaks either of us out). I don't see why it would matter though, because it's not like it really affects anything so long as they're committed to a relationship with you.

AnonymousAndy2018 · 2021-11-30T17:17:06+00:00

I’m in my mid 30s. I was in love with a hometown girl from 18-25. I knew her past, she knew mine. Both were minimal. We were each other’s first sex partner.

Learning over the past 15+ years about men and women I highly doubt I could ever let myself fall in love. It’s just not a good frame for men. That’s another story to expand upon.

But I make this point to say I can be very loyal, and have been. I’d love to let my guard down and be open. However, I absolutely will not give the average high-body count female the time of day. Why? Because I’m not gonna be head over heels for some girl who literally can’t pair bond with me.

I refuse to be the fool who gets taken by one of these modern girls.

Truth be told i should’ve been grinding on my purpose more in my early 20s. Now it feels ever more urgent at this point.

The positive for me is that I saw and experienced it all early enough - good and bad - to know that modern marriage is NOT for me.

I bet MANY guys share my apprehension and despise this era of dating.

ididntwanttoexist · 2021-11-30T17:31:32+00:00

I am the same way. I have no interest in other people when I'm in a relationship and I don't experience direct sexual attraction at all. The part of my brain that sees other people as sexual or romantic prospects just shuts off. If I don't fall in love, I'm fine with being celibate forever. Unlike you, I had no prohibition against porn or fictional characters, but personally naturally lost interest in that, too with no conscious choice involved. I wouldn't really characterize it as loyalty or commitment since it was just something that naturally occurred, not a decision to be loyal to my partner or a moral thing that I shouldn't do it because I'm in a relationship.

You are probably best looking for someone who identifies as demisexual or grey asexual, but even then not all of those people are necessarily monogamous, and these groups are like 80% female. I don't agree with the comments that literally no men are like this at all, but from my own experience of looking for one, they seem exceedingly rare. You're not going to have an easy time finding a guy like this when you factor in other criteria and dealbreakers you may have. I'd stick to it if it's really important to you though, and you're genuinely fine with staying single otherwise. My partner not being like this ended up bothering me in the end, even though he was "loyal". When someone is literally the only person you can see but they are allosexual and have potential temptations they need to resist, it can definitely feel unbalanced.

When I've watched porn in the past, I've never chosen it because of the guy. It was always about the scene.

Sounds like me, as well. I rarely even find actors in porn aesthetically pleasing and definitely am not directly attracted to them. It's definitely true that the majority of men look at it because they're directly sexually attracted, but there are a minority who view it more like us, or are maybe aegosexual. I'd consider being slightly more lax on the porn thing for this reason.

WilliamWyattD · 2021-11-30T18:03:36+00:00

I think in peak love/infatuation phase, it is common for even a man's sexual attraction to other hot women to diminish markedly.

However, over the longer term, while still 'in love' with their partner, it is rare for a man with a typical libido to only (or almost only) have sexual thoughts about her. It is much more common for this to be the case with women than with men.

This is the natural state of affairs. Obviously, the ubiquity and strength of modern temptations only amplifies this for men. However, there are exceptions. One might be a low libido partner, which is perhaps not what you would want. The other would be the type of old-school guy who actively disciplines not only his actions but his thinking. This is typically found in religious men, but can be found in secular guys too. Still, this is rare.

The point is that this doesn't really happen for normal guys naturally. They have to work very hard at not noticing other women, dismissing thoughts of other women, not masturbating and trying to focus thoughts on their partner when they do it. It a whole thing. Many religions believe this is very important for men to do, though these religions also know that temptation is strong and structure their environment to help men achieve this. Given that such religious traditions can't really control the male environment like they used to, the type of man who not only tries to practice this type of internal sexual discipline, but can also pull it off in today's world, is pretty rare.

I have met a Jewish guy who does this. He's not even full orthodox, but he subscribes to this old belief. He is decently good looking, and his wife is relatively plain. He married her for other reasons because part of this discipline of sexual control is focusing on a woman's inner beauty. He once told me, when drunk, that he knows his wife is a bit plain, but that they have amazing sex. However, he admitted that if he ever stopped practicing this sexual discipline, in time he'd probably have trouble finding her sexually attractive. He says that by only having sexual thoughts about one woman, and by not comparing her to others at all, it can make almost any woman beautiful on the outside allowing him to focus on the inside.

chalkandapples · 2021-11-30T18:42:25+00:00

I think loyalty in men do exist. Men have a high sex drive than women on average, so I do think their lust probably gets triggered by random women than the average woman would be for random men.

But normal people don't act on it every time they think someone is hot. A real relationship has so much more in it than just lust. I think there are a good amount of men that think like you (cannot feel lust for anyone else while in a relationship), but at the same time I feel like there's more women like that than men simply because of an average lower sex drive.

varrrrick · 2021-11-30T18:54:38+00:00

Yes, men feeling mostly if not only sexual attraction is common.

Yes there will be loyal men to you, and you would be able to tell through his passion for you, which usually happens when your personalities are very comfortable and trusting with each other, giving that very intimate experience no casual sex could imitate, as far as I can tell

JohnnyMnemo · 2021-11-30T19:04:16+00:00

"How common is it for a man to only feel sexually attracted when in love with someone?"

In my experience, as a male, extremely rare. We're just not biologically wired that way.

Acting on that impulse is another matter entirely.

If you can't accept that as a real and sexually healthy impulse in a male partner, a cis-normative relationship might not be for you.

Fusiontron · 2021-11-30T19:27:11+00:00

I am this way. Unfortunately it's not a good thing necessarily because I don't end up attracted to women in volume. I feel less motivated to make a move.

Foppop21 · 2021-11-30T21:23:23+00:00

Yeah ofc they exist

Cheap-Pound7001 · 2021-11-30T22:18:39+00:00

We do still exist. We only put ourselves out there for a woman who is loyal.

These are RARE women.

jayval90 · 2021-12-01T01:28:22+00:00

Usually, I can barely go 3 days without masturbation / pornography. However, every time I get infatuated with someone, I literally lose all desire for it. I've gone without for 5-6 months at a time with zero struggle at all (my record outside of this experience is around 1 week without).

I wasn't sleeping with anyone, and this happens both in and out of relationships. So it's not like I was replacing it with anything physical. It's also not because of a low libido. As far as I can tell it's the prospect of being truly not alone that makes it go away (or rather, the absence of it that drives the struggle with masturbation).

That's how it is for me at least. Curious if anyone else has this experience.

midwestufohunter · 2021-11-30T16:39:05+00:00

Sorry you got gaslit into thinking this isn’t the definition of loyalty…

Sewud · 2021-11-30T15:42:28+00:00

I think people who are constantly "attracted" to people are frivolous. There are men who just pick a wife and stick with that. Like it's a one time thing and why would they worry about it after that. I'm just a woman, but I feel like I see men like this who are just normal and not trying to check out all the women in the universe.

Aldabruzzo · 2021-11-30T15:55:05+00:00

Yes, they do exist. Most men are.

It's just that women don't want them because they're not sufficiently hawt or sexy.

ManufacturerNo4612 · 2021-11-30T15:48:57+00:00

Dating all depends on the value of your underlying value and the kind of man you are looking for.

I respectfully ask.

Do you feel as though you are the most physically attractive that you possibly can be?

If so, are you willing to date any man on the basis that he is extremely loyal and nothing else?

If you can genuinely say yes to those two questions, move to a big city if needed and your chances will dramatically increase.

goatismycopilot · 2021-11-30T16:27:03+00:00

To answer your question you are not going to meet a guy exactly like you.

Orange_Paisley · 2021-11-30T16:40:23+00:00

My husband still watches porn but he has been loyal. He’s always either with me or at work, is rarely late coming home, and always seems genuinely happy to see me when he does come home. I’ve witnessed women hitting on him so I know it’s not because of lack of opportunity. It could be just that he is older and more mindful than he might have been in his 20s or 30s. I like to think it’s because he loves me though.

Taipanshimshon · 2021-11-30T17:15:44+00:00

Being attracted to other women and acting on that attraction are vastly different.

If you are a good looking woman with a spouse that you want to have attraction to you then by definition he will be physically attracted to other women

urstrayparker · 2021-11-30T17:43:39+00:00

They Exist!!!

tls330 · 2021-11-30T17:44:29+00:00

Men's arousal is physical. So the only way you would find such a man is if you are literally the only person on the planet he finds attractive. So no by your definition I would not think you will ever find someone like this.

TheMorningJoe · 2021-11-30T17:52:47+00:00

They exist just as much as loyal women. Just rare all around.

Fudstersecured · 2021-11-30T17:54:18+00:00

To be blunt, what you are searching for is a very rare quality in men. I feel like this post reflects a lack of understanding of how male sexuality works. Most men just need to see a glimpse of an beautiful woman to feel attracted in a visceral sense. It’s animal hindbrain stuff. I suspect these thoughts occasionally run through the minds of even the most honorable men, before their rational side reminds them of their love for and loyalty to another.

wtknight · 2021-11-30T18:03:08+00:00

Most men are attracted to many women. I think that the best that women can hope for is that her man just looks and doesn’t actually act anything out. There are probably a few guys who are so into one woman that they don’t even look at any other ones, but I don’t think that that is typical.

Stoic_Beau · 2021-11-30T19:43:51+00:00

There are a lot of logical fallacies in your post, this is overthinking, but the short answer is yes there are men out there who are committed.

TryLambda · 2021-11-30T20:21:32+00:00

men are more loyal than women in general, because of one simple reason men do not use hypergamy as it is not wired in us, women on the hand......

aesthetic_anus_43 · 2021-11-30T20:36:44+00:00

Here’s the thing. Loyalty among men is possible, the issue is that there simply aren’t enough women who are worth it.

Yes Most men will be loyal to the girl they find and want to be with for the rest of their life. The issue is that those types of women just are not common

TheLoneMushroom · 2021-11-30T22:13:38+00:00

You're just demisexual lol. It means to not experience sexual attraction until you have a deep connection to the person. I'm almost that way, however, I do experience sexual attraction towards other people I don't know (or at least think to myself damn she's cute or something idk), it's just a lot more rare. Plus I refuse to have sex with someone I don't have a deep connection with. We're different though. You're full on demisexual.

Laytheblameonluck · 2021-11-30T22:28:24+00:00

What happens is when a guy has regular sex with a girl, she becomes his "type" and other women become less attractive in comparison.

I'm surprised so few women know this.

mandoa_sky · 2021-11-30T23:22:58+00:00

it's known as r/demisexuality - ie your sexual attraction is kinda limited re how well you know people

MisterJose · 2021-12-01T11:31:21+00:00

I've been in love before. It wasn't a thing you could define with "oh we have a lot in common and I think she's a great person yada yada" It was, in my mind, deeper than all that. Like some force meant us to be together. It didn't work out, but honestly, I see pictures of her now, and see those eyes, and it still feels that way. It makes me feel like some medieval notion of love is naturally more my speed, but you never see that able to exist in modern life.

TotalTravesty · 2021-11-30T15:47:06+00:00

You might meet a guy like you. Anything’s possible. But I would suspect that a guy with such a level of “loyalty” that he wouldn’t even imagine another woman while masturbating is as rare as a girl of the same kind. I’d call my girlfriend a goddamn liar or a goddamn unicorn if she said she never thought of other guys, even while masturbating. By the way, I don’t agree with this conclusion:

Some men yes, but a lot of the replies were claiming that those guys were lying to look good. "Why would I think about my gf if I'm in a relationship with her?" which means their gf looses their appeal after a guy finally gets to sleep with her. Is this opinion common among men?

It’s not that their girlfriends lose their appeal after sleeping with them, just that all the other girls don’t lose their appeal.

You ain’t the only hot girl on the planet, toots. (nor am I the only hot guy…)

Before I get on a rant about how pointless and hostile it is to try to control your partner’s fantasies, I’ll just say that you’re asking a lot of people to only find one person sexually attractive. But you’re entitled to seek out who you want.

LackOf_Empathy · 2021-11-30T16:21:51+00:00

People have told me it's unrealistic. I agree. But I'd still rather stay single (maybe forever) than settle.

Almost every time a woman says this, they end up regretting this as their age and their sexual market value goes down. Everybody that is average, both men and women, will have to settle in a relationship, nobody is entitled or deserving of someone who is of high value.

Is it possible I will ever meet a guy like me? Or is it wishful thinking?

The majority of men will indeed be faithful to you however, women are not attracted to these types of men until usually 29-30 when their SMV is on a steady decline and need to find a man (Usually Beta) to provide long-term provisioning for her.

ruboyuri · 2021-11-30T17:38:41+00:00

Men here say all the time that they are perfectly able to separate sex and love, and that men cheating isn’t really cheating because of that (but it is for women)

Nevertheless, I’m sure unicorns exist

DeliciousPussyNectar · 2021-11-30T17:39:58+00:00

Of course they exist. Saying not a single loyal man exists is some FDS nonsense.

KirthWGersen · 2021-11-30T15:44:05+00:00

Your chances of finding a man who is only attracted to you are ZERO.

Just think: if you had never been born, the man who loves you would be with someone else.

Now, it is true that when we are in love, or in a relationship in which our focus is on our woman, we will be more attracted to her than anyone else (even if we can objectively recognise that other women are more attractive). But it is inevitable that we will still feel attraction to other people: it is simple biology. We don't get to choose who we are attracted to.

It is something you have to accept. Your man will see other women on the street and be attracted to them. He will see women on TV and be attracted to them. There may be times when he feels like knocking one out to porn. It is just a harmful fantasy. If you allow that to make you jealous, you are going to make your life very miserable for both you and him.

In my opinion, if monogamy is important to you and you want a man to be faithful, what you really need to concern yourself with is whether he will act on that attraction with real women he comes into contact with.

So your options are:

- Marry a guy who won't stray on principle (and hope that lasts).

- Marry a guy with a very low sex drive.

- Marry a guy too disgusting for any other woman to have sex with him (and hope he doesn't go to a prostitute).

- Keep yourself in shape and keep your guy so sexually satisfied he would not even consider cheating.

DerekMorganBAU · 2021-11-30T15:46:19+00:00

I'm sure there's dudes that don't beat off to other bitches or masturbate very little as long as they got pussy on tap.

You'll never know the truth though just like he'll never know your real n-count.

Jamless_universe · 2021-11-30T16:14:55+00:00

The type you described doesn't exist.

A man is only as faithful as his options.

SonicBackScratcher · 2021-11-30T15:39:27+00:00

Is it possible I will ever meet a guy like me? Or is it wishful thinking?

Its going to be impossible to tell and know long term.

People change. I was a jealous boyfriend who absolutely loved his GF, married her, and now still absolutely loves her but has sex with other women and her full knowledge and consent and lets her have sex the same way. The me at 21 and the me at 30 and the me at 50 are all very different.

You can find a guy like you who later turns out to be cheating but when he met you he had no desire to even think about that.

I would focus less on if they view sex the same and more on overall compatibility.

md8716 · 2021-11-30T16:31:58+00:00

In a relationship, someone ends up reaching and someone ends up settling. My wife reached -- I was her alpha, and she fell hard for me. If we broke up, she 100% would have been alpha widowed.

For the record, I'm not that much of an alpha. But to her, her friends, and her family I was. They initially thought I was a player, and that I'd get bored and dump her for the next pretty thing that came along.

But I didn't. I was loyal, and always have been. Sure I "settled". And I'm still young and fit enough to pull an attractive (7-8) early-mid 30s girl, especially living in LA with the money I'm making now.

But, wife goggles.

AnonymousAndy2018 · 2021-11-30T17:21:49+00:00

Here’s an ugly truth that bluepilled women just can’t grasp:

Men need and crave sexual variety and multiple sex partners. Defining “loyalty” as never looking admirably at another women in his lifetime is absolutely unrealistic. For any man, no matter how Beta or unattractive. We’re wired to spread our seed.

Sex is almost like biological need for men. Almost like hunger or thirst. Yes we want your homecooking, but we also have desires to hit the Chinese buffet, pizza joint, and Mexican restaurant. We don’t desire the same re-heated leftovers every single day.

Don’t shoot the messenger; just face facts that nature is ugly and unforgiving

Teflon08191 · 2021-11-30T18:18:06+00:00

Men who would be "extremely loyal" are men who are generally beneath women's notice, because "extremely loyal" often translates out to "has no other options".

So yeah, they exist, but you probably won't want them.

As for your edit:

How common is it for a man to only feel sexually attracted when in love with someone?

Very much not common. Men intrinsically want variety. It's their capacity to not act on those desires that you should be looking at.

JollyRoger66689 · 2021-11-30T15:51:28+00:00

I think it's unrealistic the way you seem to define "loyalty" - as if there shouldn't even be the slightest, visceral potential for experiencing attraction to anyone else but you.

Men are polygamous by nature, but that doesn't mean we can't be loyal. Loyalty is also a matter of morals, ethics and self discipline. Just because something is in your nature, doesn't mean you're a slave to it.

OwnerAndMaster · 2021-11-30T17:26:06+00:00

Of course loyal men exist. Most are losers, some are sufficiently religious, and the rest are men with lower testosterone (usually older men). The rest of men? Exactly as loyal as our options.

_-CHUBUT-_ · 2021-11-30T17:46:16+00:00

I think you're asking for too much here 😁

moosemc · 2021-11-30T19:50:05+00:00

So, you're super-duper committed.

and

You only want to be in a relationship with someone, who is also, super-duper committed.

Because you feel if they're not, super-duper committed, they'll take advantage of the unequal relationship.

So, you want to find someone who'll fall hard for you. Too hard, to take advantage of you.

It all sounds unrealistic.

kblkbl165 · 2021-11-30T20:10:43+00:00

CHeck the other thread about PhD psychologists talking about relationships.

Men in general are opportunistic cheaters. It's not something you can assess by their personality, principles or even happiness in a relationship.

20Humble5050 · 2021-11-30T21:11:48+00:00

Yes, it is often true that men are opportunistic and will take the best option available to them, putting face and figure before personality. However, in the dating market of contemporary America, you would be the best - or most likely, only - option available to at least a third, more depending on how attractive you are, of all young unmarried men. If you think based on experience that loyal men don’t exist, you have probably been dating out of your league in terms of looks and height.

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rredirt · 2021-11-30T18:27:46+00:00

Poor man demanded to be loyal when women are having the best of their life getting even multiple partners at at time lol

Potato-Swing · 2021-11-30T18:34:02+00:00

Most people, men and women, aknowledge attractive people around them, at least from time to time. To my opinion, this isn't a threat to loyalty in a couple, not even something potentilly hurting... I believe that's true as long as one gives no space in its mind - at all - to these feelings of attraction. Many men and women do it easily, just because they value their partner and take good care of the relationship.

LotBuilder · 2021-11-30T19:43:37+00:00

How old are you and how Long is your longest relationship?

Fishyinthemiddle · 2021-11-30T19:58:10+00:00

I don't think it's rare or weird to masterbate to your partner at all! Especially if you have a great sex life. There are many men who vastly prefer their own partner to fantasy women. Demisexual is the term for people who are only attracted to people they're romantically involved with. I think it's rare but they exist.

yungthrowaway97 · 2021-11-30T20:08:59+00:00

To commit they exist. I personally don't know a single friend that doesn't get a little bored of relationship sex though, but that is the trade off stability for novelty.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2021-11-30T22:17:24+00:00

How common is it for a man to only feel sexually attracted when in love with someone?

Ubiquitous, universal. The vast majority of men will still feel sexual attraction to someone else. Now, not all of them will give that attraction more than a few seconds of thought and many will never act on it.

Is it impossible to hope that I can get into a relationship with someone of the same type of attraction I experience

Each person is unique, so yes. It is impossible.

UrFoodMolestedMyNose · 2021-11-30T23:33:32+00:00

Will smith

DeJuanBallard · 2021-11-30T23:47:32+00:00

If your ugly. They are forcing themselves to do it or actively lying to you.

If your attractive and he's a good guy he's got no reason not to be

I'm loyal because I value my morality, but it physically and mentally takes a lot of work and willingness to suffer, which most PEOPLE aren't willing to do.

That's why cheating so common

To answer your question simply.

Tons of truly loyal men exist, but it requires sacrifice and work for them to be loyal, more than it does for you. And if you lie to urself and ignore red flags of dudes you want for superficial reasons , you will pay for it when he inevitably leads is of low moral character.

CriticalEscapeBike · 2021-12-01T00:29:27+00:00

They exist.

They get shunned and replaced with Chad's. (Until they're done with Chad).

Happens all the time.

everythingelseisfull · 2021-12-01T02:45:45+00:00

Most people fall in love between four and six times. Most women have way more men than that trying to get them into bed on an average night out. Most people are offered love a similar number of times. We can be loved, but we need to take the opportunity when it is there and make an effort to figure out which people are genuine.

Mark_Freed · 2021-12-01T05:41:39+00:00

When you are meeting him face to face, ask him this question very directly, suddenly. Like start by explaining how you feel attraction and ask him how he works in previous relationships.

It is hard to lie when put on the spot like that, so you can watch him carefully and spot microexpressions, body language that he is uncomfortable, trying to make excuses, looking away, etc.

If he is like you, he will be intensely happy and enthusiastic to share his feelings. Well there are rare cases where he might be a shy guy, so be aware of context.

Anyway, all the best. I don't know many like that but all kinds of people exist. If you search long enough and are willing to compromise on other aspects of your ideal guy it should be possible. But you can never know for sure.

Lots of guys lie and they lie often so as to not hurt your feelings. So even if he does this in his mind why would admit it to you. You will become paranoid and ruin the relationship if you keep searching for clues and read too much into him staring at some girls, etc.

ogsimpology · 2021-12-01T12:33:51+00:00

Yea I'm loyal and wouldn't cheat. Why? Peace. I don't want drama in my life. I value peace of mind and respect for my partner over meaningless casual sex.

I don't see a point in fucking a random woman I find attractive, then going about my day. When I look at the bigger picture, is it worth losing a wife, ruining the relations with my friends and family, my mental state, for one night of sex?

I don't think so.

2021-12-01T15:51:56+00:00

My boyfriend is extremely loyal. I think they exist but it’s rare.

BigGaggy222 · 2021-12-02T11:33:05+00:00

Im a bloke and I am the same as you.

trashrelations · 2021-11-30T18:38:57+00:00

we use to exist but we went our own way. see ya.

Liberal_On_Guns · 2021-11-30T18:41:09+00:00

How common is it for a man to only feel sexually attracted when in love with someone? Is it impossible to hope that I can get into a relationship with someone of the same type of attraction I experience?

Men and women are not the same, honey.

I happen to be someone who does not feel attracted to others when I'm already in love with one person

You aren't weird. This is how women experience the world when hypergamy is satisfied. Men are not hypergamous. Our biology is different, our physiology is different. Why would you expect someone to experience identical sexual arousal when their T-levels are no less than 10-20x yours? To say nothing of the myriad of other sexual/physiological distinctions.

Lateralanouncer · 2021-11-30T19:43:12+00:00

Definitely onitis is a major.topic of red pill and male suicide etc. I will ad that a man's loyalty is different.to a woman's. Woman are the gate keeps.of sex and if the gate is open in front of us most will take it. Is that our responsibly. No. Men are not naturally monogamous and if given the opportunity will have multiple high value wife's. Only a couple of generations ago if a woman slept with woman's husband she would be shamed a slut be responsible for that and not have future marrage options.

Shredddz · 2021-11-30T21:11:19+00:00

Its easily possible, but the key is him loving you for what you provide to him and your character besides looks. attraction isnt the same as love. In order to not think about other people, you need to be lovable for something other than looks so that he values that aswell, which cant be replaced easily. I wouldnt go after other women if I had one that is attractive enough and lovable as a person, which is her character and live goals fitting mine. the key is you providing what somebody is looking for longterm to get that kind of love. If you do not satisfy that, hell try someone else who maybe can if he had the chance. but you need to understand that any guy will still masturbate to other women and be attracted to them, but doesnt act on that in order to keep the connection and value you provide because its more valuable. thinking men wont feel sexual attraction to other women or only masturbating to you is fantasy though. Its just nature, and there is no way to prevent that and you need to accept that. men are sexually attracted to looks and nothing can prevent that since men are wired to have as many women as they can.

SteveSan82 · 2021-11-30T23:50:26+00:00

Men are loyal as long as the wife or girlfriend is earning it. If she's giving him attitude, not cooking and cleaning and not providing him sex, then she should not expect loyalty

trail22 · 2021-12-01T00:57:48+00:00

Thats not love thats obsession or at the very least a fetish.

Title	Do extremely loyal men exist or are they only acting?
Author	abstractsand
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Comments	288
Date	November 30, 2021 3:31 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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