Women say all the time that most men are unattractive and ugly, mostly on reddit, youtube, twitter etc. Redpillers also claim women are sexually attracted to the top 20% of men (A lot of people claim that it means top 20% of men are dating 80% of women but that's simply not true, and I'm sure very few men claim the same), a lot of studies on dating apps states the same, some even claim it's 95-5. So it seems that a lot of women agree with redpillers on this one. A lot of women also claim women are more beautiful than men on average.

A lot of people brings up the whole "female gaze" thing when something like this comes up. They tell you to look at the "men written by women". But most of these men are tall, handsome, attractive. Yeah they might not be meatheads or roided bodybuilders but still very conventionally attractive. You could say that hollywood romcoms and sitcoms show beautiful women dating average dad type guys but it's very clear that those women are not attracted to their husbands/boyfriends and everyone believes she settled. One exception from this would be Marshal Eriksen from How I met your mother but even then this guy is 6'4 and has an attractive face, specially on season 1. Again they claim that how Paul Rudd became the sexiest man alive, but he's still very conventionally attractive.

You could argue that men are the same and they only are attracted to conventionally attractive women and yes, you wouldn't be wrong to say that. But clearly there are plenty of pornographic content made by overweight women, women with less hair, women with cellulites, small breast, big breast, medium breast, small, big labia, hairy women, shaved women, short women, tall women, white, black, indian, asian, latina, all sorts of women make content and they make good money. So it's clear that men are sexually attracted to them so much that they are willing to pay monthly subscription for it. You could say those men will pay for anything but if that was true that only the most conventionally attractive women in only fans would get all the subscribers but it's very clear that they do not. But that's just porn what about real life, well clearly women of all races, all body types, all levels of attractiveness has plenty of potential partners that they have to weed out (minus a tiny minority, not trying to invalidate your experiences). So what about porn made for women, you could look at subreddits for women looking for porn and these men they show clearly are very conventionally attractive, almost to the point of being a caricature. Well women don't enjoy porn and don't like porn, then lets look at romance novels and fan fictions and erotica, yes it's the same. It's clearly extremely saturated with tall, handsome, well endowed men with abs, broad shoulders. Where are the short dudes with dad bods in romance novels? Well obviously they wouldn't sell. Having an Aziz Ansari looking dude on a romance novel cover wouldn't only sell poorly, but be a laughing stock.

The overwhelming amount of evidence suggests that women aren't attracted to the average looking men. "Well women's sexuality is different and they value personality more", well if you talk with attractive men you'd know that women can be unhinged when they are attracted to someone. Women go crazy over kpop dudes, they go bonkers for someone like Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddlestone, Henry Cavil. They even go crazy for attractive criminals, serial killers etc. So they clearly are attracted to looks and appearance, most of them anyway.

Then you could say that irl there are plenty of average or below average men in relationships. And that's where my confusion comes in. Why? If women clearly think that these dudes are unattractive then why be in a relationship with them? Yes his personality might be okay or even great, might be funny, charming etc but is he sexually attractive to her? The common answers I see are that he makes her laugh, he makes her feel safe, yes I'm not denying that, but isn't that settling? Will he ever turn her on like an attractive man would? I live in a country where arranged marriage is the norm so I have no doubt that there aren't any sexual attraction between most of the married couples I see (despite being one of the most densely populated country in the world lol). But what about the west? Arranged marriage is definitely not the norm there so how does it make sense?