Women are only “loney” if they choose to be

Susiewoosiexyz · 2023-12-05T03:41:50+00:00

One woman on a podcast proves that female loneliness or dating problems are all fake?

wanderinstarlight · 2023-12-05T03:58:34+00:00

Obese and ugly women are often lonely

Some women who got burned by cluster B Chads become too bitter or actually afraid of relationships

There's reasons women end up lonely

Although most can get unlimited casual sex if they are reasonable looking. But most crave committed relationships

fakingandnotmakingit · 2023-12-05T02:52:23+00:00

I'd rather be single and lonely than in an unfulfilling relationship

victoriabowen8 · 2023-12-05T05:08:38+00:00

Some of my loneliest times have been WITH people. Loneliness isn't about lack of physical presence, it's about lack of connection. If I was lonely sure I could download Tinder and have a (probably hot) guy over within an hour. But there is a 99% chance he would not cure my loneliness. I'll take my solitude and the ever elusive meaningful connection over the abundance of worthless companionship any day.

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2023-12-05T09:55:02+00:00

I have seen this dude on TikTok that’s very over weight and he is married to a very hot woman so I guess that means all men can get a hot woman too 🤦‍♀️

Mitago1 · 2023-12-05T04:39:33+00:00

The women you saw on that podcast doesn't represent all women and their experiences, just like one guy doesn't represent all men. Men and women aren't these two hiveminds that all think the same and have the same experiences. Women just like men can and are lonely and as wild as it sounds it's largely for the same reasons and they have similar experiences.

The ''us vs them'' attitude is really the biggest issue when it comes to discussing these kinds of topics...

EulenWatcher · 2023-12-05T01:57:24+00:00

"Single" and "lonely" are two different things. You can be in relationships and feel lonely even with your partner or you can be in loving relationships and be lonely because you don't have friends or you're far away from your friends and family.

shabby18 · 2023-12-05T07:03:12+00:00

What you mean to say was "alone". Alone and lonely are 2 different things. You could be in a room full of people closest to you thus not alone but still feel lonely if you don't have a great emotional connection with them. Edit: Alone is a physical state. Lonely is an emotional/mental state. But that doesn't mean it's an illness.

WhatyouDontwantoHear · 2023-12-05T20:41:22+00:00

Trust me, you would also rather be single than with those type of men.

Steakman1 · 2023-12-05T02:40:17+00:00

My guess is that these people fetishize her for her weight. But I’ve never heard of a fetish for regular or plain looking people. Either way, not sure how one woman in L.A. (I believe that’s where Whatever podcast is?) proves all lonely women accross the country are lonely by choice. There’s women like her and then there’s women in their 20s that have never had a guy approach them or ask them out before.

Oli_love90 · 2023-12-05T03:22:30+00:00

I’m pretty lonely - I’m also a little weird, depressed, anxious and mistrusting. I push people away because I feel like I’m such boring drain. Would you want to hang out with that type of person? Much less date them? How great will that relationship be?

Guys here seem to signal they’re desperate but average men and friends would not want to deal with this type of person. So yes, women can be lonely too.

thetruthishere_ · 2023-12-05T02:01:22+00:00

So some random podcast woman speaks for all women?

Am I to assume some rando man speaks for all men too?

Cool_Relative7359 · 2023-12-05T08:20:13+00:00

There's few worse feelings than being lonely in a relationship.

DXBrigade · 2023-12-05T10:42:13+00:00

Look at the fat men on my 600 ibs life in relationships or married.

VoltairesBarista · 2023-12-05T02:28:18+00:00

This is dumb as shit, plenty of women are lonely not by choice.

Early_Inspector988 · 2023-12-05T06:14:48+00:00

Why do so many men refuse to recognise women as human, and as such capable of being weird, awkward and lonely?

SweetConfident9091 · 2023-12-05T09:14:22+00:00

1.Don't believe everything you see on the internet. 2. 1 woman said that. Not all of them.

LillthOfBabylon · 2023-12-05T12:10:18+00:00

Women are only “loney” if they choose to be

Same goes for men. Stop looking at porn all day and go make friends.

Element_Girl · 2023-12-05T18:59:48+00:00

There's nothing I love more than a sweeping generalization

WilliamWyattD · 2023-12-05T11:47:15+00:00

I don't know why men cannot understand that women are prisoners of culture, biology and environment, just like men.

We can argue whether modern society is artificially elevating female standards; but even if that is true, it doesn't mean each individual woman can just go 'Oh. I see that. OK. Now I will find more men attractive." Humans don't work that way.

Options a woman does not find attractive are not options. Period. Doesn't matter if they are her looksmatch, SMV rank equal, or whatever. If the thought of bedding the man is repellent, then she can't form a romantic relationship. I do not understand why guys cannot get this.

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2023-12-05T09:51:46+00:00

Being hit on doesn’t mean you can find a meaningful relationship,

CurlyMuchacha · 2023-12-05T02:42:09+00:00

Do you think women will just pick whatever dude will use them as a hole so they aren’t alone? Women can be used for sex again and again and still be lonely. Guys may have nobody want to fuck them, but women can be used for their bodies and still feel empty. This post just tells me there is a severe misunderstanding about womanhood and thinking that being in a relationship will solve all your problems (hint:it won’t)

Ok-Excitement-6643 · 2023-12-05T22:10:00+00:00

Access to sex doesn't mean quality of relationships.

penndelnj · 2023-12-05T02:59:48+00:00

She’s being fetishized. Almost no woman wants to be fetishized. This woman accepts it because she’s fat.

SmilesRHere · 2023-12-05T02:57:04+00:00

That proves nothing, and is probably click bait, just like all those “alpha” red pill guys that make a fortune on the naive and gullible (it’s been pointed out many times that the women they have around them are usually call girls).

I know several women who look much much better, nice face, nice body, have their own place and a good job but they still can’t find a decent long term guy despite trying.

And no, they are not shooting for the stars, in fact they mostly go for average guys, unfortunately too many of the guys turn out to be toxic one way or another, usually starts off good, then after the first few weeks or months, the guys stop pretending and start showing their real personalities, or admit all they were looking for was easy sex and not anything serious (despite saying the opposite earlier).

Unless they are willing to go through guy after guy, go into a serial relationship spree, which none of the said friends want, they give up and end up alone, lonely.

Reality is, there are just as many women as men that are alone and can’t find a partner, the difference is most of those women gave up on dating apps and started looking for guys in real life, hence the distorted ratios of men vs women on said dating apps (latest stats say 70% to 80% of users are men, in other words there are 4 men per woman on those apps/sites).

The main problem is that a huge amount of men are still trying to date online while the majority of women are not.

Simply put if there are 80 men and 20 women, once those 20 women find someone to date, 60 of the 80 men are left fuming and crying about a nonexistent fictional reality that 20% of men get “all” the women.

Fact is the, world population is closely split between men and women at pretty much any age group, but not in the OLD world, where the ratio is completely distorted in favor of women.

KayRay1994 · 2023-12-05T02:15:43+00:00

“women are lonely because it’s their choice. They wouldn’t be so lonely if they settled for anyone!”

you either don’t understand human dynamics or are resorting to begging for women to settle for you - people simply existing and willing to settle for you cause you’re a hole to fuck or a bucket to dump all your trauma doesn’t make you a viable partner

PurplePillDebate-ModTeam · 2023-12-05T02:08:33+00:00

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Deadwalking2k · 2023-12-05T04:09:01+00:00

I don’t think one thing alone can prove that. However, after seeing enough other situations and even just the views women can afford to have about dating. I can still safely say that women are the most privileged creatures on the planet. Especially with dating.

metasekvoia · 2023-12-05T16:00:06+00:00

Yes, most women have "options" to get fucked. Most men have exactly the same options. Go to the nearest truck stop and advertise free bj-s. There you go, no more loneliness!

TristanAurelius · 2023-12-05T19:00:03+00:00

A lot of women can’t find a guy who is sensitive, strong, loyal and has the same values as them and is intellectually stimulating. They can’t just be with any random guy, they need one who they’re compatible with to stop feeling lonely.

discoparrot375 · 2023-12-05T20:20:34+00:00

Well, they might not have to be lonely exactly, but they can very much still struggle to find meaningful or positive relationships. Just because a woman can find dates doesn’t mean those dates will treat her with kindness or respect. Both sexes very much have their struggles, I’m not downplaying how difficult it is to have no dates at all, I’m only saying that having dates doesn’t necessarily mean a person has gotten the human connection they truly need. We’re all just trying our best to find happiness out here, and it can be tough for anyone.

-Ashera- · 2023-12-05T22:01:23+00:00

It's not our fault y’all have no standards lmao. I never had a shortage of options but I never met an option I actually wanted until I met my husband. Think of it this way, imagine every offensive looking, unlikable, offensive behaviored elder lady on Earth slides into your DMs, objectifies the fuck out of you, doesn't see you as someone to respect and just wants to use you for her own desires. Is she really an option if you have no desire whatsoever to date her but she'd date you because she's desperate, has no self respect, no standards and nobody else wants her? But hey, at least you won't be "lonely" amirite? Since in your mind, all company is apparently good company.

CardiologistTight630 · 2023-12-06T05:15:00+00:00

Yo you can't even spell lonely

claratheresa · 2023-12-05T03:40:33+00:00

“Everything on the internet is real”

Dry-Cricket3524 · 2023-12-05T10:08:14+00:00

Men are also lonely only if they choose to be.

What's your point?

AFuzzyMuffin · 2023-12-05T04:21:24+00:00

no bro women can be lonely if ur a quality woman finding a quality man can be hard sometimes lol

claratheresa · 2023-12-05T03:38:24+00:00

Plenty of gross fat men get laid too

thernis · 2023-12-05T12:47:18+00:00

Women are lonely. Men are too. Loneliness is an enormous problem in our insular, atomized society. Women can have 10 FWBs and still be lonely. You can be a drug dealer, interacting with different people all day… and still be lonely.

GGMcThroway · 2023-12-05T02:08:36+00:00

Something something you can feel alone in a crowd something something.

I'm curious about this theoretical 400 pound woman and how you would even know she's had that many marriage offers. Or why you would use a singular odd instance as irrefutable proof about an entire gender.

Though more likely this is just bait and poor bait at that. Lame.

Jaded_Interaction162 · 2023-12-05T06:35:00+00:00

It's like you guys conveniently ignore women with severe mental health issues and disabilities on purpose.

nectarinepiss · 2023-12-05T04:36:52+00:00

proves nothing lol .

snekhoe · 2023-12-05T23:08:52+00:00

Men are judged by their results. If they don't measure up they are labeled losers.

For men to be alone they either have to fail. Or simply give up. Men don't have the opportunity to socialize and belong unless they have something of value wanted from them.

So very few men have looks by default. Since those also take some skill and work.

The best way to think of it is as a %.

Women generally get 100%. Maybe 90% of she's ugly. When women get older or have kids that attention might drop to 95%. And during these times women suffer from depression. Act badly for attention online. Having her inbox drop down from 10+ DMs a day to 7 is the end of the world. ( I'm sure it's higher )

As a man we start literally a 5%. Then it drops to zero when we get older. ( That 5% was from our mom's ). If we work super hard. We might see 10%. If we are famous? 20%. And that's it. Or inboxes are zero. And this is with all the effort and work. Constantly. Grinding.

Most women can't comprehend that. A woman crying about being lonely to a man is no different than Steve Jobs crying to a corpse that he is hungry.

Women like to argue again that they get hurt and bitter and can end up lonely. But again, out of the 100 men she chooses the 5 shitty ones because of the red flags. She made the choice to be hurt. The obvious choice.

Men don't get that choice. We have to prove ourselves, work hard and dedicate our entire lives to even have the chance to be rejected 99% of the time. Put down, hurt over and over again. And when we finally get a date? We have to pay and invest in multiple dates before even finding out she's a shit person.

Men get treated like shit by 98/100 of the women they reach out to. All after the fact. And women it's 5/100 men she will choose over the good ones.

Women have all the resources , all the support, all the love. The men will literally do all the work to make it happen. And she still can't manage to find a man? That's the joke.

Men have zero or all the above. And somehow push forward. It's not the same. Women's failures mostly come from entitlement.

If society judged women the same way they judged men. Most women would be bigger losers than men. He plays Xbox 2 hours after work? Ok how does that compare when we weigh in her 9+ hours of social media, til tok and obvious addiction to Instagram and gossip?

The only difference between men and female losers is that women's addictions are in the real world. And men's are digital. But a loser is a loser.

SmoothForest · 2023-12-05T10:57:57+00:00

The majority of people, including obese men and women, are able to date easily and get into relationships easily. Volunteer at a soup kitchen and you'll see homeless men and women in relationships. Go to a mental health support group and you'll see people with all sorts of mental illnesses in relationships. The idea that any group of people, regardless of whether they're a man or woman, whether they're thin or fat, pretty or ugly, has significant widespread issues with dating is false. Loneliness is a personal and individual problem, not a societal one. If you're lonely it's your fault and no one elses. Yes, that's uncomfortable to accept because it'll amplify your self hatred. But it's the bitter truth. And I'm not saying this from an outside perspective. I have issues with dating aswell. And I rightfully despise myself for it. It's not society's fault, it's all my own fault for my own shitty personality.

Spare-Estimate5596 · 2023-12-05T01:56:20+00:00

Any femcels that say its not a choice?

Avery9339 · 2023-12-05T05:52:35+00:00

My therapist says I can easily get a relationship within 24 hrs on the apps but what im looking for is a meaningful relationship. Honestly i believe she is delulu for this bc i dont think that many guys are willing to commit to me tbqh.

Mathematician1627 · 2023-12-05T17:52:22+00:00

Many in here are delusional. I live in a western country and of my female friends, where most are average-looking (even some a little below average) then when you try to swipe on their tinder it's nearly a 100% match rate, which is wild to me.

With this in mind then saying that women are lonely due to not finding a quality man is bullocks. It's because they are lazy - like most people are lazy.

An even below average woman could set up two dates every week all year around and just be selective enough so that the guys that only wants fun loose interest.

Most women that are lonely are by choice or because of severe mental disorders. A standard mental disorder will not keep a lonely guy from dating a woman and taking good care of the girl.

Spare-Estimate5596 · 2023-12-05T01:48:57+00:00

Here is a picture of what she looks like looks like

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Objective_Ad_6265 · 2023-12-05T10:27:24+00:00

Maybe I don't just want SOMEONE but someone I'm actually attracted to? Maybe I don't want just anyone just for the sake of being in a relationship? Maybe I want person that I truly match with? Maybe I want real commitment and emotional connection? Maybe I just don't want any random person? Is that too much to comprehend for the sociopath brains here? I want real human emotional connection, not just any random person to be there just for the sake of beign there.

ConanTheCybrarian · 2023-12-05T10:50:20+00:00

if the choice is between being with someone who doesn't work on themselves, etc. or being alone, most people with mid to high self esteem will choose to be alone.

Being alone by choice doesn't preclude being lonely.

in fact, one can be in a relationship and still be lonely.

Supposing RP is right and every woman could have A man if she wants, that doesn't mean

a. she could have THE man she wants

b. she can find one worth investing her time and attention in

c. she can find one that isn't just looking for a combination of a mommy and a warm real doll

d. she won't still feel lonely while she is with him

What exactly is your point?

RevolutionaryOkra679 · 2023-12-05T13:10:09+00:00

Anybody else tired of all the ESLs here?

I-am-a-fungi · 2023-12-05T14:20:36+00:00

Someone's mad

Ok_Application_5460 · 2023-12-05T15:49:47+00:00

This is not an opinion these are facts.

Fearfactoryent · 2023-12-05T15:53:23+00:00

All of my single girlfriends are kind, funny, and pretty enough. They’re single because their standards are too high, period. I’ve tried to give them advice (I just got married 2 months ago after years of dating struggles because my standards were delusional) but they keep saying the refuse to “settle”.

Mysterious_Fox_3288 · 2023-12-05T09:02:18+00:00

Yes anyone with a brain knows this. Women don’t understand the definition of lonely lol. To them lonely is like when your really hungry and want filet mignon but all you have is little ceasars. Like yeah bitch I can see how that’s unfortunate but just eat the little Caesars. Meanwhile men are eating 2 year old stale corn flakes with water type shit

FutureBannedAccount2 · 2023-12-05T02:07:12+00:00

In some cases its a result of people constantly approving of their shitty actions to the point where they accept it's normal behavior

purplish_possum · 2023-12-05T02:04:56+00:00

Some 400 pound women are hot.

https://twitter.com/TheRiverSong_/status/1434377057845358595/photo/1

Safinated · 2023-12-05T05:00:33+00:00

That’s true for anyone, not just women

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harmonica2 · 2023-12-05T02:13:41+00:00

To the OP, can I see this interview of the 400 pound woman, if anyone has a link?

ResentCourtship2099 · 2023-12-05T03:24:41+00:00

Well a lot of people think that women are in abundance by default but men are in scarcity by default

MaleficentSun3923 · 2023-12-05T08:26:14+00:00

Unless they are ugly

Idk who would have been talking to them but it definitely wouldn't have been me

neverendingplush · 2023-12-05T11:35:25+00:00

Call it fake lonely. It's like when u walk in the store and there's nothing u wanna eat. The food is there unjust don't like what's available to u.

LovesGettingRandomPm · 2023-12-05T14:54:58+00:00

When you're fat you can still be attractive or even more so because of certain fetishes it's not that you're ugly once you're overweight.

ReplacementPasta · 2023-12-05T15:47:20+00:00

Dating or just being with someone doesnt mean you arent lonely.

It's caused by preceived isolation, so if you have no emotional connection with the person or people you are with, you can be just as lonely as someone who is alone.

A bad relationship can even make you more lonely than just being alone

Ecstatic-Status9352 · 2023-12-05T17:32:23+00:00

If you're a beautiful woman it's lonely because everyone is fake to you. Snakes.

meangingersnap · 2023-12-05T19:28:13+00:00

Why would you be lonely when there’s men out there who would only be attracted to you because you’re in a state that is a severe risk to your health and encourage you to get fatter and be more at risk? Silly women, y’all need to lower your standard and accept this average man or you’ll end up a cat lady 🙂

coping_man · 2023-12-05T19:33:31+00:00

you have to get into the woman mindset for a moment:

you feel that your vagene makes you superior to 99% of those guys without any action on your part because you are the most special, delicate, vulnerable thing god has ever created if you are anything like some(not all) of the female posters here, so most of them are beneath your kweenly worth.
let us suppose you don't. you still aren't that attracted to any of them because of how the autonomic nervous system works: you can't negotiate attraction. most of them will probably want to bang you sooner or later, not that it's wrong on their part, but you wouldn't enjoy it at all and it'd be doing both of you a disservice. they aren't all out to pump and dump you, some of them are great guys but you don't feel it because they aren't 6 ft tall/not white/don't have that diamond-cutter jawline/aren't male feminists/aren't "ambitious" enough (as in, they aren't a celebrity, they don't have a social status that's better than yours in every way). if you did find one though, and you felt "the spark", you may end up throwing yourself at him for a night or going on a date with him.
...but not much more than that if you're too busy with work. you might be weak at managing time or pursuing a time-consuming certification or degree. you might be working. or you might have kids from your "excellent" history of past partners. or all of the above. you might feel like you simply cant afford the time to spend on a male partner, or that you are too wealthy for them (but you still believe the wage gap oppresses you KEK). and if you're married to uncle sam, uncle sam is a better husband than any man when it comes to bankrolling you while you continue to fuck your life up no strings attached. This may piss you off, but it is simply the state of affairs. women do not get free dopamine shots just from being around males.
men who want to be your partner can only fill 1 slot in your social life: romantic partner. you can want platonic friends. now, it's easier for a woman than a man to get platonic friends: companies are starving for hiring women even without qualifications (and you can make friends at work), there are events for women, nonprofits for them, ngos and all that, but knowing about them and having access to them isn't always straightforward. sometimes you are too mentally sick to leave your room.
giving all these guys a chance can take a lot of time for the reasons mentioned above. even your fat example has more guys lined up after her sending her more messages in one minute than she can read in a month. even if you aren't annoying with a chip on your shoulder and a victim-god complex, you might simply not feel attracted to most men sexually.

Literal_Jesus_ · 2023-12-06T20:29:29+00:00

To be totally fr you're right, women can get sex pretty much whenever they want (within reason) but whether or not the person they're with is a good lay, willing to commit and a good partner is another conversation entirely. It's easy for us to have sex but alot of us don't like being used for sex or having that be the only outcome for the relationship.

Many of the single women I know aren't lonely. They have thriving careers and social lives, they foster their hobbies they invest in themselves and are (frankly) very happy.

CryptoCrackR · 2023-12-06T23:19:58+00:00

I’m friends with this one girl who’s VERY attractive, hot enough that she’s had weird mfs make shrines to her type hot. Obviously she isn’t gonna date those guys, but she has plenty of quality men toss themselves at her regularly. That illusion of choice and ego inflation has made her chronically single because nobody’s good enough. She lamented about a being on a 2 year dry streak the other day and I couldn’t help but laugh at her, you’d think some women could starve in a grocery store. The grass truly is always greener I guess, human psychology’s a bitch.

Title	Women are only “loney” if they choose to be
Author	Spare-Estimate5596
Upvotes	96
Comments	273
Date	December 5, 2023 1:48 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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