How do men want women to behave?

Extremely__Moderate · 2021-02-18T00:25:37+00:00

I want a girl who gets up early
I want a girl who stays up late
I want a girl with uninterrupted prosperity
Who uses a machete to cut through red tape
With fingernails that shine like justice
And a voice that is dark like tinted glass

pre-DrChad · 2021-02-17T23:27:41+00:00

I want them to tickle me vigorously

stats135 · 2021-02-17T23:50:18+00:00

How do men want women to behave?

Consistently, or at least inconsistently in my favor.

WiseMonkeyGoodMonkey · 2021-02-18T02:49:05+00:00

I want women to behave in the way that most effectively and authentically conveys who they are as a human being. How else will I know if I'm interested and likely to remain so?

geyges · 2021-02-17T23:35:05+00:00

it is very unattractive and even detrimental to a woman's worth if she has sex with a lot of men, but there's not the same standard for men

There is, but in reverse. I've recently read about a wife who was absolutely befuddled that her husband was a virgin before they first had sex.

And btw, women select their mates, or rather filter what is being offered to them. There's almost no ceiling to a woman that actively attempts to seduce a mate of her choosing.

a woman should be submissive but she has to work and not be financially dependent on her man.

In terms of submissiveness, its all different for different men. For me its about loyalty, and she can do what she wants in terms of career or no career.

wizard_down_there · 2021-02-17T23:42:12+00:00

I wanna bad bitch with a big set of tits.

PickleLine · 2021-02-18T00:05:01+00:00

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Flintblood · 2021-02-18T03:25:31+00:00

Submissive usually translates into agreeable and emotionally low maintenance. It means she looks up to you and trusts your judgment and doesn’t try to undermine everything you set out to do. Submissive does not equate to subservience. Being submissive also has nothing to do with a woman being a stay at home wife.

The N count issue. I believe you set up a straw man saying that high n-count men aren’t looked upon with suspicion. Women can get sex much easier and don’t have to put much effort into getting most men to want to have sex with them. On the contrary, most men (not male IG models) have to work and put effort into getting sex.

SilentLurker666 · 2021-02-18T00:26:52+00:00

A woman should be virgin or low n-count but you don't want to wait for sex, it is very unattractive and even detrimental to a woman's worth if she has sex with a lot of men, but there's not the same standard for men,

You'll be surprised, but it is the same standard for men. Long Lasting couple generally match each other's N-Count and I have someone asked me about my N-count and ensuring that I didn't play around before I matched with her. She also states that her N-count and relationship count is low.

a woman should be submissive but she has to work and not be financially dependent on her man.

It is like having your cake and eat it too and I agree that's a bit unrealistic. Women also have the "666" standards (6 figure salary, 6 ft tall, and 6 pack) but they should (or at least they should know) that's unrealistical standards for 90% of most women.

I believe you know what I mean, I just would love to hear the thought process of a male with similar beliefs, and also hear from him how he genuinely wished that women behaved.

The thought process is simple and is already explained via the SMV/RMV market theory.... In a market there's supply and demand, and where supply meets demand is where you get the Price.

Any individual would want to get the most while giving up the least, but at the end the quality of their being determine the quality of the individual they ended up with.

mantapacktribe · 2021-02-18T08:58:44+00:00

they want a woman who is a whore for him and a chaste virgin for others

HeyguysThatguyhere · 2021-02-18T03:47:28+00:00

I just want to be treated like a human and loved

NalkaNalka · 2021-02-18T00:05:47+00:00

Not this fallacy again for the 45474th time.

Different men want different things.

Different men want different things.

"Jhon likes cucumbers but Dave hates them, Men are hypocrites !!!"

The guys that want a stay at home wife are not the same guys that want a woman that pays her own way.

The guys that obsess over n count and virginity are not the same guys that that spin plates and want first night sex.

Tradcons and hedonistic manwhores are opposite types of people who want vastly different things in women and in life.

So no matter what you do there will always be a part of the population that doesn't like it. Why are woman here incapable of understanding this basic fact of life?

-since · 2021-02-18T04:50:27+00:00

The more masculine the man, attracts the more feminine girl.

The more feminine the man, attracts the more masculine girl.

I personally am a masculine guy, therefore I enjoy my feminine girlfriend.

Bandit174 · 2021-02-18T00:51:51+00:00

In regards to n-count, not all guys want the same thing and realistically we can't ever know your count anyways. You can easily keep it hidden unless you fuck around with reckless abandon and are litterally known as the town bicycle. Otherwise you can easily say its 3 when it's really 13.

My preferences kinda vary on a tier. I am currently a virgin so if I am going to potentially settle down with the first girl I sleep with I would strongly prefer a virgin or low-n count woman. I am willing to wait for sex for one but probably not for marriage. However if it takes her months to feel comfortable I can respect that.

If I can't get a virgin and have to settle for a higher n-count woman I would either want to raise my n-count yhrough casual sex or if I can only get relationship sex I would prefer for her to have sex with me relatively early on like she did with the other guys.

What bothers me with dating and n-counts is the casual sex market seems more skewed for men than for women which makes it super easy for any ok looking or better girl to rack up her count and often with guys who are hotter than her and hotter than the guy she will eventually settle down with.

Women seem to have a lot more options for casual sex and can afford to be a lot pickier and have higher standards on looks. So it kinda leads to a dynamic where the most attractive guys get most of the casual sex while for women casual sex is comparatively more evenly distributed among women of all levels of attractiveness. So that means not only is the average girl likely to have had more casual sex than the average guy, it also means the average guy is likely less physically attractive than the men his gf/wife had casual sex with. That makes it an even harder pill to swallow.

So alternatively I kinda wish it was just more even so guys could have the same quantity and quality of options for casual sex that women have.

CaptainFunkyMan · 2021-02-17T22:59:02+00:00

Feminine, respectful, kind, realistic. That’s it. That’s the list.

asdf333aza · 2021-02-18T03:11:26+00:00

A woman should be virgin or low n-count but you don't want to wait for sex,

Men will pursue sex.

The women who put out easy give the men what they want SHORT TERM. But by putting out early, she is also showing that she isn't a long term partner. Cause if she puts out easy for you, she will do so for other men and probably has for other men at one point in time. It brings doubt into the guy's mind about your loyalty and trustworthiness. That's not the type of women a man wants around for a real relationship. Cause he has to worry about her self restraint, and ability to turn other guys and dicks down, when they approach her.

If a guy really wanted something serious with you, he'd stick around after sex was turned down once or twice or three times. He wants to know you. And you turning down his EARLY advances doesn't get him down cause he is playing the long game for you. By doing this, you are showing him that you are not easy for any man. It helps establish trust in you. Cause he knows it takes a lot of courting to get you into bed, and he knows most guys who just want to fuck wouldn't stick around and put as much effort into girl who was already in relationship. Those guys who just want sex, won't jump through the hoops that the long term guy is willing to jump through to get you. But if there are no hoops and anyone can get you undressed, thr guy dating you will feel uneasy. If you are easy to get for him, he will be worried you are easy to get for other men as well. Guys do not believe that "i've never done this before" line. If you was hard to get for him, he expects you to be hard to get for other men. And that puts his mind at rest when he isn't with you, as he can trust that it takes a lot to get you. More than the avg guy is willing to do.

You run into complications with that cause nowadays, pursuing a girl becomes sexual harassment real quick, thanks to social justice. So one "no" leads to a guy leaving you alone altogether, even if he really wanted to date you and saw a future with you. The "playing hard to get" thing is what women could do to show a guy that she is worth long term dating. Feminism and Social justice had ruined that. So it kinda puts all girls into a weird situation where if you say "no" he is likely gone for good.

Another issue comes in when the guy you really want approaches you. If you say "no" the first time he is likely gone for good, cause he is used to girls putting out for him. Again, he can't and won't chase you thanks to pursuing becoming sexual assault after just one "no" or any signs of rejection. And if you say "yes" you show him that you're just another girl to him. Just like all the others who put out. And if he is one of these top percent guys that all girls want, if you show any signs of rejection, you will thoroughly be replaced by another girl, who will put out easy.

This is what your modern day feminism has given you. You think you're empowered, but all it's done is made you replaceable. It puts you in a spot where you screwed if you say yes or no in terms of dating aspects. You say "no", the guy you wants replaces you, with an "easier" girl. You say "yes", the guy you wants sees you as easy. You can't win.

And don't get things twisted. You can do whatever you want, but so can men. If you want to sleep around and go through a "hoe phase", that is fineeee. Guys just don't want to marry that type of girl. And you don't get to say "yes" to 30 to 80 guys by the time you're 30 and suddenly decide to switch it up. You can't play "hard to get" after you've fucked more a shit load of dudes. A recovering addict is still an addict. A recovering hoe is still a hoe. You can't try to play hard to get after giving it up easy for a lot of guys before him. Guys find that crap insulting and it makes the guy think you like him less than all the men before him. You have all this cheap and meaningless sex with other guys. And then you expect him to value that same sex that you've give to many other men. He thinks that you think he isn't worth as much cause he has to work harder for something others got for no effort. No guy wants a girl who went through a "hoe phase" for a long term partner. He will see you as short term girl, even if you want him to see you as more. So again, you can sleep around, but you're either just going to have to lie (and the truth will get out eventually) or tell the truth and be rejected or just seen as another "pump and dump". Again, you can have your sleep around phase, men just won't see you as a long term partner. It just makes you an undesirable partner for any man who knows you or can find out about your past. And moving to another location doesn't work nowadays, with social media and pics being taken of everything.

2021-02-18T03:46:12+00:00

" but there's not the same standard for men "

Because there doesn't need to be. Most men aren't doing this, because they can't do it as easily as women can. In fact, I would guess that in 2020, the average married woman has slept with more men that the average married man has slept with women. You're still putting up the strawman of the "man sowing his wild oats while women are expected to be chaste." That hasn't existed for decades, if it ever did.

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-02-18T00:06:02+00:00

I don't think anyone can tell you how they want someone to behave without making it some personal "build-a-bitch" concept.

There are plenty of ways that men don't want women to behave though. That would be a lengthy list.

For me personally, I'd want a woman to behave however she wants because that will tell me who she is and whether or not I'd want to be with her. However, it seems that there might always be a few things that women do that will be contrary to men's preferences, and vice versa, so understanding that these things won't change is the first step that anyone listing preferences has to take.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-02-18T02:07:59+00:00

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You_I_Us_Together · 2021-02-18T07:23:22+00:00

As a man, I lack the womans perspective. The woman that went troughout all that suffering and still have their mind reasonably intact.

I believe any woman wants a man that can think like a woman, and any man wants a woman that think like a man. And in that way are able to learn from eachother every day!

FrivolousMood · 2021-02-18T12:21:15+00:00

No: men don’t care about virginity or N count. Men like women who like sex.

Most men simply want a women who is non-fat, sex positive, and low drama.

Kaisha001 · 2021-02-18T01:59:07+00:00

... ok... again from the top.

Men only care about n counts for LTRs, high n girls are fine (even better) for ONSs/STRs/FWBs.
Low n make better LTRs (all other things equal, on average). And personally I think for most people in the normal range (ie. less than 20 higher than 2) it's a non-issue.

But it is not a 'double standard' to point out that women don't care about n count. That's simply an observation. You BPs keep twisting yourself in knots to try to frame this as some weird hypocrisy nonsense, it's not.

How do I personally want women to behave... I just want them to be honest and stop blaming me/men/society/patriarchy/the phase of the moon/etc... for the consequences of their own dumb choices.

fcoc · 2021-02-18T00:32:40+00:00

Confident as fuck

ifelsedowhile · 2021-02-18T00:33:49+00:00

I want a woman that's like an anime/manga female heroine with magical powers and stuff.

Deranged_Loner · 2021-02-18T01:05:59+00:00

I'll mix it up. I'll take a more dominant, working women.
I could do the whole house husband bit.
A n count less then 20 would be fine with me. Attractive is a given, cause who doesn't want someone attractive.

801735 · 2021-02-17T23:16:42+00:00

However you like.

Sad_Top1743 · 2021-02-18T01:11:25+00:00

Behave however she is naturally inclined to...and let us filter from there

YveisGrey · 2021-02-18T02:37:18+00:00

Who cares?

bunol · 2021-02-18T12:43:06+00:00

Guys who want hookups want women to be as easy as possible. Guys who want relationships want non promiscuous women.

Barely-moral · 2021-02-18T13:20:24+00:00

Consistency and lack of lies would be enough.

ConsequenceThat6209 · 2021-02-18T01:39:02+00:00

For me it’s just don’t sleep with men until they show you commitment and respect (you do not have commitment or respect on the third date). I have no issue with women having an n count, what is annoying is women having fucked 20+ dudes who have no respect for her, and then having to settle for a “nice” guy who she grows to resent because he isn’t one of the 20 Chad’s.

Rent_Is_Due_Renthog · 2021-02-18T06:21:00+00:00

virgin but you dont wanna wait for sex

Dont want to and would still do are very different things. It ultimately depends on reality, if were in a modern scenario then this will reign even if its inconsistent, but i dont mind waiting if it means stable marriage.

sluts are bad but studs are good

Its women who dislike male virgins, thats an issue on your end.

she should be submissive but has to work

Remove feminism, the workforce halves and wages rise so that women working is a choice again rather than an obligation. You have to work because of feminism, whereas before women worked if you were poor.

and not be financially dependent on her man

She should be, and in that circumstance divorce is granted if someone is at fault with full alimony, no complaints. You got rid of the balances and trade offs and wonder why guys dont like the raw deal, its not hard to realize guys will put up with the downsides if its balanced by upsides.

BioStu · 2021-02-17T23:54:56+00:00

Like my partner in crime.

cloudydays84 · 2021-02-17T23:53:52+00:00

Behave however or i guess "be authentic" or whatever

SpaceS4t4n · 2021-02-18T01:57:47+00:00

And this exact dilemma is how we have kept overpopulation at an arm's length for so long. Every once in a while, a man and a woman find harmony long enough to have a kid, then who fucking knows from there. Mutually assured loyalty and support is the only thing I can think to answer with.

BrtVrgen · 2021-02-18T02:00:39+00:00

I'm not sure it's usually the same males. Some men like sluts and some don't. (not slut shaming, do your thing)

Five_Decades · 2021-02-18T02:30:01+00:00

I wouldn't take advice on how women should act from men you wouldn't want to be in a ltr with.

throwaway82643898 · 2021-02-18T03:05:40+00:00

There are a lot of men who want to treat women as objects. Hate it all you want, but that’s the truth.

Jakes1967 · 2021-02-18T04:19:29+00:00

Ever met a full stop you liked using?

A woman should be virgin or low n-count but you don't want to wait for sex...

Nope, as long as she doesn't have ONS and ALL her sexual partners, are made to "wait for sex".

...it is very unattractive and even detrimental to a woman's worth if she has sex with a lot of men, but there's not the same standard for men

Nope, exact same standard for men

...a woman should be submissive but she has to work and not be financially dependent on her man.

And?

I believe you know what I mean, I just would love to hear the thought process of a male with similar beliefs, and also hear from him how he genuinely wished that women behaved.

What's so difficult to understand?

She mustn't have the usual 7 boyfriends, namely:

Army
Air Force
Navy
Marines
Maritime Navy
Every College fratboi
Every Criminal fuckboi

If she's discerning and responsible in her partners, marriage-minded men, will be acceptant of her standards.

Submissive isn't subservient, nor does it mean a pushover. All the women in my family have ruled the roost and are/were feisty, yet submissive to their husbands.

No, he didn't get to rule roughshod, he had to make wise decisions, listen to fact, give in to reason and be humble to experience.

If a man chooses to be the head of the household, he has to accept that role, it's standards, authority, responsibilities and the repercussions thereof.

justbeacaveman · 2021-02-18T05:36:13+00:00

Respect, loyalty & sweetness

Pastelitomaracucho · 2021-02-18T05:49:36+00:00

I just want them to live their lives and leave us alone

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-02-18T05:52:21+00:00

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Nodeal_reddit · 2021-02-18T06:49:20+00:00

[a]A wife of noble character(A) who can find?(B) She is worth far more than rubies. 11 Her husband(C) has full confidence in her and lacks nothing of value.(D) 12 She brings him good, not harm, all the days of her life. 13 She selects wool and flax and works with eager hands.(E) 14 She is like the merchant ships, bringing her food from afar. 15 She gets up while it is still night; she provides food for her family and portions for her female servants. 16 She considers a field and buys it; out of her earnings she plants a vineyard. 17 She sets about her work vigorously; her arms are strong for her tasks. 18 She sees that her trading is profitable, and her lamp does not go out at night. 19 In her hand she holds the distaff and grasps the spindle with her fingers. 20 She opens her arms to the poor and extends her hands to the needy.(F) 21 When it snows, she has no fear for her household; for all of them are clothed in scarlet. 22 She makes coverings for her bed; she is clothed in fine linen and purple. 23 Her husband is respected at the city gate, where he takes his seat among the elders(G) of the land. 24 She makes linen garments and sells them, and supplies the merchants with sashes. 25 She is clothed with strength and dignity; she can laugh at the days to come. 26 She speaks with wisdom, and faithful instruction is on her tongue.(H) 27 She watches over the affairs of her household and does not eat the bread of idleness. 28 Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her: 29 “Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all.

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All that plus a healthy libido and an attractive hip-to-waist ratio.

WilliamWyattD · 2021-02-18T11:21:39+00:00

Opinions are not always as contradictory as they seem. Often, one opinion, like low n-count and virgin, is how a poster feels an ideal world should be. But 'not wait for sex' is what they feel is best when spinning plates in today's world with today's women.

Ultimately, 50% of the posts around here are essentially about the difficulties of wanting to pair widespread, longterm monogamous relationships with passionate, lustful desire when modern medicine has us living into our eighties.

A demand for a life full of consistently lustful sex is hard to meet. The requirement doesn't play well with most of the other things we want in life and relationships.

HobbitShaker88 · 2021-02-19T17:08:46+00:00

LOL, i agree with you. Men are such idiots on this topic. I get a huge kick out of the contradiction men frequently portray when you get to know them on this subject.

Most men nowadays expect sex early on, lest you dont have a "strong sex drive" or it means youre "not attracted to them" but a good chunk of these men also dont want a promiscuous girl or a high count girl.

There are so many aspects to being a woman where you just cannot win and youll be picked apart no matter what you do and this is one of them.

2plus2s5 · 2021-02-22T00:25:36+00:00

1) high n count means you'll probably always have sex, but you're also more likely to be cheated on or left. Is the risk worth the benefit? I think so, but other men don't

2) submissiveness is weird. I think it's really kindness (not just politeness) that men want, but submissiveness is close enough to get some men confused. Similar to how women can get turned on by dominant men, but it's mostly the assertiveness that does it for them.

3) the financially dependant is mostly logistical rather than attraction based. Very few people like work. If she's lazy, you have to work twice as hard. That sucks. Also laziness is unattractive

Emervila · 2021-02-17T23:10:05+00:00

How do men want women to behave?

Honest adults is enough.

Nobody is asking them to behave in any direction just understand men are entitled to preferences. We don't wife up damage goods or leftovers, you can't force men to like anything, this wrong idea comes from people who also think "normalize dating sex workers" stuff

R3adyS3tGo · 2021-02-18T00:48:14+00:00

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ApprehensiveWheel32 · 2021-02-18T04:32:41+00:00

It is very unattractive and even detrimental to a woman’s worth if she has sex with a lot of men, but there’s not the same standard for men

This double standard at least makes sense. A man who can sleep with a bunch of women has accomplished something. It isn’t easy to do, women are very choosy. A woman can easily sleep with a ton of men with little to no effort whatsoever. The saying goes: “There are fat ugly sluts, but no fat ugly studs.”

As for what I personally want? Kindness, intelligence, a sense of humor like mine, and yes, submissive because I’m dominant and it’s nice to have compatible kinks in the sack.

My body count is nothing to be proud of (It would be lower if a couple of the women I had pursed had stuck around too), and I’d prefer a partner with one on the low end, but as long as she wasn’t doing porn, gangbangs etc it’s not a huge deal to me as long as she doesn’t lie about it.

I work in a field that makes decent money and I absolutely abhor housework. So I don’t need a woman to be financially independent. And it can be a mutually benefitical arrangement for her to do the housework. I dare say more mutually beneficial to her even, because it doesn’t take 8 hours a day to clean a house and make food. I wouldn’t mind supporting a woman who is worth supporting but they’re shockingly rare these days. And I’ll live out the rest of my life and die alone before I keep a woman around who doesn’t improve it.

anomanderforPOTUS · 2021-02-17T23:08:04+00:00

I want women to behave however they naturally behave or else it is not a very sustainable behavior.

Acting like something you aren't is just going to cause issues in other areas.

But respectful, strong willed, independent and easy to communicate with are all very important attributes to me.

I don't think anyone really expects them to act a certain way unless they are manipulative. They want them to be themselves. They just have preferences about certain things.

Substantial-Dealer76 · 2021-02-18T02:22:26+00:00

Why is this question being asked in the first place?

We are disposable. Our opinions don’t matter.

JohnDoe721 · 2021-02-17T23:35:54+00:00

You be you. I'll be me. Maybe thats a match.

Jeez, how hard is that?

WeAreMoreThanUs · 2021-02-18T01:02:50+00:00

Just don't treat me as expendable as the rest of civilization does. Be honest with me. Also, if I am putting time into staying in shape, I want you to as well. That's pretty much it, honestly.

daproest1 · 2021-02-18T01:04:55+00:00

I Just read the title. In a word, with honor. That’s it. Keep your commitments and promises. Don’t be so fickle.

Danger3214 · 2021-02-18T01:27:06+00:00

With decent honesty. No game playing, no hamstering, no manipulation. Just be truthful without being mean.

cuckspace · 2021-02-18T07:22:39+00:00

A woman should be virgin or low n-count but you don't want to wait for sex, it is very unattractive and even detrimental to a woman's worth if she has sex with a lot of men, but there's not the same standard for men

These are basically the options:

Be a slut and own it. Your LTR options will be a) Studs who also have high n-counts, if you’re a very attractive trophy wife potential. These men will be less than 1% of men. b) Cucks who love the humiliation of having a wife/gf with much higher n-counts.
Don’t be a slut and aim for a LTR from the get go, with a decent, stable man, attractive but within your capacity to get him committed. Vet well and early. It’s ok to fail a few times, but at least you have relationship history and not casual sex history.

No, you can’t have both. Having a “hoe phase” alienates 99% of men who are not cucks. Serial monogamy does not negatively impact your relationship value as much as a series of casual hookups.

On the last point, there is no double standard. The overwhelming majority of men don’t have the option of casual sex with any regularity. Of those who do, many are disgusted after the first few times and want a relationship anyway.

Goodthingstartssmall · 2021-02-18T08:42:06+00:00

More humble in acknowledgement of how much easier their life is made compared to most men. Needless to say that most fail at the humble part anyway.

parahacker · 2021-02-18T01:18:21+00:00

A woman should be virgin or low n-count but you don't want to wait for sex, it is very unattractive and even detrimental to a woman's worth if she has sex with a lot of men

Ok, hear me out.

It's not about the n-count, it's about what it's symptomatic of. It's not about the having sex, it's about the followup. This is why not waiting too long for sex is fine, or even appealing, but high n-count is not; because that means that she easily discards men as well, has a poor grasp of loyalty, etc.

This extends to the following situation: you date a girl, there's an argument or she wants to 'get some space', then lands in another guy's bed in the next few weeks. N-count does not matter here. Her n-count could be 2. But it's utterly disrespectful. I don't do that, and I expect my woman not to do that.

And if that behavior continues, it will naturally lead to a high N-count. Thus, symptomatic.

Conversely, a low n-count coupled with her being eager for sex means she likes sex and will possibly stick around, be low-maintenance and tolerant of faults, someone who you can build a relationship with and have sex with.

but there's not the same standard for men

I think people overthink this one. It's not the gender that matters here - not directly. It's the context.

As a baseline, nobody likes that person who fucks everything that moves. Men who fuck everything that moves are no exception. But there is a difference, and it would be disingenuous to say there isn't. However, it's not black-and-white.

Approaching is hard. Like, really hard. If women instead of men were the ones who were usually required to make the approach or die alone, then, well... they would be called creeps, deviants, and sexual predators, but not sluts. Just as men are. If you want to switch societal roles, be my guest.

a woman should be submissive but she has to work and not be financially dependent on her man

Submissive how, exactly? I have the feeling any way you define this statement will be inconsistent. Be aware there are stern differences between the concepts of 'easygoing', 'indecisive', and 'submissive'.

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TheX141710 · 2021-02-18T02:57:02+00:00

Is enthusiastic in bed. Enjoys supporting me. Has her own hobbies and pleasures in life. Don’t lean all your happiness on me.

FatBoySlim- · 2021-02-18T03:13:24+00:00

We don’t. 😉

ViciousDextroShade · 2021-02-18T05:11:57+00:00

Men want women who are fit, feminine, friendly and cooperative.

danielsmith2001 · 2021-02-18T10:46:42+00:00

Be open minded and submissive.

CaptainFunkyMan · 2021-02-18T11:39:03+00:00

MarshallFoxey · 2021-02-18T11:47:17+00:00

The types of relationship desired usually govern the expected behaviour men have for women.

So for example, a woman a man may want a short term purely sexual relationship with will have entirely different behavioural expectations placed on her (whether she’s conscious of this is another matter) than a woman a man may desire a meaningful relationship with.

EusticeSymington · 2021-02-18T15:44:41+00:00

Traditionally feminine. Someone immunity to propaganda.

BooksLoveTalksnIdeas · 2021-02-18T16:35:41+00:00

There is no “how do men” there’s just “how do you” because it’s all about what that particular individual wants out of his life. Also, I am not from this subreddit, but this question appeared in my “recommended” feed. I would have to Google purple pill to know what this subreddit is about...

With that said, I believe what you say: anyone who wants virgins better be a virgin herself/himself, otherwise, they’re hypocrites. Someone who wants a partner with x, y, and z should have some of that x, y, and z on their side of the balance too. I’m guessing I’m the type of guy that you want this answer from because I value moral qualities, intelligence, potential for love, and how “nice and sweet” the woman is more than most people that I know.

The short answer is that I want women to behave as who they really are so that I can recognize if who she really is fits with who I really am or not. The personalized answer (my own individual preference) is that the women that I like are the complete opposite of “drama queens”. They are not after “partying every weekend”; they don’t like cursing; they like educated hobbies, such as one of the sciences; they are good-hearted and trustworthy; they (or she because relationships-wise I only need 1) cares about me and isn’t selfish or self-centered; all-in-all she is a “nicest friend ever and lover” kind of deal that makes life sweeter without any drama. Also, she’s the type that is also capable of valuing those essential but invisible qualities in a guy over things such as how popular or sexy he is, or how much money he makes. I am looking for a unicorns 🦄 that’s probably why I’m single.

Pontifex_Lucious-II · 2021-02-18T17:01:30+00:00

Don’t have kids. Don’t be ugly. Don’t bug me when I want to be alone.

Everything else is bonus. I don’t care about N-count or even your past really as long as you don’t make your shit, my shit.

Grand_Duty · 2021-02-18T20:00:14+00:00

I just want to be around a pleasant girl that doesn't virtual signal and larp as a tradthot, when she's just a liberal that likes guns, and country music. I want to give forehead kisses and cuddling!

ariesv123 · 2021-02-19T06:40:36+00:00

Personally I assume they just want a person, as long as they aren’t being difficult

patlight1 · 2021-02-19T15:00:17+00:00

just behave like a human being

MalloryTheRapper · 2021-02-17T23:07:01+00:00

A woman should be virgin or low n-count but you don't want to wait for sex,

Well we are in a sexually liberated environment. Given that reality as a guy you certainly don't want to be the guy she makes wait lol you want to be the guy she doesn't make wait.

XtoDoubt · 2021-02-17T23:26:41+00:00

Do whatever you want. I'll adapt. That's the point of trp.

Laytheblameonluck · 2021-02-17T23:53:47+00:00

but there's not the same standard for men

Women set that standard, and it used to absolutely be the standard that women wanted men to be virgins until sometime post-WWII.

And I believe that's because women stopped following that standard themselves.

Reyeactable · 2021-02-18T00:29:33+00:00

Low b count, modest, and in love with me

Simple

SteveSan82 · 2021-02-18T01:33:14+00:00

Pleasant, submissive, feminine, supportive.

TimelessMystic · 2021-02-18T01:46:26+00:00

I'd like if women were the ones to initiate conversations, ask for dates and go for a kiss, instead of waiting for a man to do it.

RubberAndSteel · 2021-02-18T02:31:30+00:00

Lol generalizing women like pets. That's simply why you're all virgins. 😂

YoMamas_azz · 2021-02-18T04:01:17+00:00

I want them to remain virgins until marriage and marry someone their parent would approve of. I want them to be homemakers and put pleasing their man as their top priority.

Naus1987 · 2021-02-18T04:19:28+00:00

I only want rationality. If I’m going to invest my life with someone—I want to trust that they won’t be reckless.

Infernir · 2021-02-18T06:18:12+00:00

This is a ridiculous question, men are the complete opposite of women. Men want a really unique women, that's special to them because of uniqueness. Women want a man to fit all these more materialistic check boxes, since image & appearances are everything to them. You can get that same 10/10 girl to bang the shit out of you if you fake confidence, have a big flashy social media and a nice car. What every man wants in his dream girl is different, but general rules for the normies

A man's dream women would be

Sexy
Feminine
Fun personality
Good character & morals

Generally most western American men will just settle for whatever girl lets them stick their dick inside her a lot even though they're really miserable in life but have no idea they are.

testpostignorepls · 2021-02-18T06:36:13+00:00

Be a total whore for me, and only for me

Yeah I said it.

Anonymous_Browser_ · 2021-02-18T11:07:09+00:00

I’ll try and keep this scientific and opinion free, but here’s how it was explained to me about the different views in male and female n-count (a more evolutionary reason why men are revered and women shamed). In caveman times, men and women had two very different mechanisms when it came to procuring a partner. Men had to try and convince a woman to sleep with him to reproduce, which was often done by being better at protecting them or something (the persuasion mechanism). Whereas the women had to get rid of the ones who would not protect them or produce strong offspring (the selection mechanism).

Men who sleep with a lot of women must therefore have a strong persuasion mechanism, likely be stronger, more persuasive, able to get what they want, all of which are valuable qualities. However for women who sleep with a lot of men, they have a poor selection mechanism. They will take what they want, even though it might not be the safest option, and so they are less valuable.

Now obviously this is somewhat flawed in the modern day, and it’s not my personal belief on the matter, but I do think it’s a slightly better explanation than “men are chads, women are slags” (which is a serious response I once heard. Like WTF dude seek some help).

Aldabruzzo · 2021-02-18T16:12:54+00:00

Men want a few very, very simple things. It's not hard to be and do these things. At least, I don't think it should be.

The four F's: Feminine, Friendly, Fun, Fucking.

Cooperative. Optimistic.

--be nice. (I.e., "not a bitch")

--care about what I want. (ask me what I want and then try to provide it)

--do what I ask.

--cooperate with me.

--have sex with me at reasonable intervals.

--be cheerful and optimistic.

Please note what is NOT on this list:

1) Be a submissive doormat.

2) Be seen and not heard.

3) keep your opinions to yourself.

4) be chained to a stove, barefoot and pregnant.

5) have 5% body fat and look like a supermodel.

EVERY time this is asked, women bring up these strawmen. Don't. Just DO NOT.

RRBeachFG2 · 2021-02-18T00:31:08+00:00

Behave like a woman and stop trying to out-men the men

bert_cj · 2021-02-18T01:26:10+00:00

Feminine

All the things you mentioned don’t matter. A woman just has to be physically attractive. The hotter she is, the more she can get away with. How much money a woman makes doesn’t matter.

SeemedGood · 2021-02-17T23:38:37+00:00

A woman should be virgin or low n-count but you don't want to wait for sex,

Another false equivalence.

Not making a man wait =/= having sex with many men.

but there's not the same standard for men

Men and women are fundamentally different.

Do you have the same standards for apples as you do oranges even though both are fruit?

Workaholiconew · 2021-02-18T03:31:05+00:00

A woman should be virgin or low n-count but you don't want to wait for sex

No the correct wording is "A woman's value is related to her N count. The more partners she had, the more she has to compensate in order to keep the same value."

We all are fine with passable value women with an average n count. But if she is not some 10/10, by the n count of a 100 it is unlikely she will be able to attract many men interested at all romantically.

And simply put, high n count matters little for sex alone. Matter of preference here.

a woman should be submissive

I understand some men like to use "submissive" as a short hand... but I find it not exactly helpful to say it that way. Very few really want someone who is submissive, most just want someone who does some services he demands on a consistent basis (usually sexual services and maybe some housework).

Yeah We play the Dom/Sadist part, but it is mostly for women's (not so secret) desires, a woman's personality is usually not as important as women think. She can be some hard ass marine, a nervour wreck, a hot headed bitch or a submissive flower, if she gives what a man demand (most probably sex and maybe some housework), then it is just a minor question of preference. It just happens that submissive women are more likely to give what these services without being forced (Thus, the misconception).

If you don't believe me, look at the number of submissive women here and outside complaining that men lie about prefering "Submissive women" and in fact like "Tomboys" or some other strange concept... which so happens to include giving the aforementioned services... and these women constant demands of being treated roughtly which men refuse to do... There are at least 2 posts about it in PPD since the beginning of the year.

What I really want for a LTR partner:

Loyalty
Able to sexually satisfy.
Not too much of a burden/nuisance
Mostly reasonable.(Not dating a crazy woman again).

geyejoe7 · 2021-02-18T07:06:17+00:00

An ideal woman:

is cognitive, and had actual hobbies, not just watching netflix and going to college/work
has a sense of humour, and doesn't just laugh when a hot guy says something
isn't loud and rude, bur rather soft spoken and calm
nice, caring, loving
submissive in bed
has her own opinions and like to converse
has a job, but understands that it's a requirement for a stable relationship, not something that'll impress men
ideally virgin or Low N count
doesn't give up sex easily (This is controversial, and depends on what you're looking for. To me personally, I never wanted sex easy, but if I want virgins, then I need this opinion to logically follow)

VoiceOfTheMillenium · 2021-02-19T03:28:37+00:00

A woman should be virgin or low n-count but you don't want to wait for sex

I don't want to marry a whore who fucks like a prude. That's it. The "I was being double tagged and filmed screaming "I'm your little whore" while being filmed, but with you I will act like a fucking nun that sees dick in the first time" is not even a red flag. The "virgin" or "low n-count" doesn't matter as much as that. It's not a red flag. It's a straight-up nuclear torpedo launch at the 'ship.

it is very unattractive and even detrimental to a woman's worth if she has sex with a lot of men, but there's not the same standard for men

Because male equivalent of promiscuous woman is gigolo, not a man who attracts lots of women. And it will keep being that all the time while man is expected to get and work/invest for most of the relationships going on.

a woman should be submissive but she has to work and not be financially dependent on her man.

Not being financially dependent is an almost sure guarantee of your sovereignty. As for "submissive", it's straight up trying to sell you a bad deal of "shut up it's better for you". That being said, many women confuse being strong with being bossy. Being the "plug in every barrel", barging with your galaxy brain takes and claiming authority without having any substantial claim behind it is NOT being strong. It's being bossy. And the dumber takes you make (worse if they afterwards blow in everyone's face), the more bossy you are seen.

Nobody likes incompetent opinionated fool. And women are stereotyped like that because, let's be frank, a man can pull it off only about two or three times before he gets punched in the face for being an insufferable prick. That's why "Karen" is a thing as a phenomenon.

how he genuinely wished that women behaved.

Be reliable, respect my sleep, and don't do some explicitly stupid shit. That's pretty much it.

colgateexpert · 2021-02-19T21:10:38+00:00

Lower your standards

edwardpuppyhands · 2021-02-24T07:28:24+00:00

/u/opheliamy : many of the men here are red pill, misogynist (and women FDS, misandrist), so I would recommend applying a skeptical eye to much of what you read here. About what men tend to like women to behave as, I'm too tired to give a long answer, so I'll say that traditionally feminine is the best catch-all.

{Edit} Btw, I appreciate someone here trying to take an optimistic and open-minded approach with the opposite gender.

jakethegreatwhite · 2021-02-18T01:39:12+00:00

I like to fuck sluts and date saints, and if i date ill will uphold 50% of the work if she puts in her 50%. also not being a land whale is nice

infps · 2021-02-18T02:18:27+00:00

I LTR with an East Asian woman who is well-educated but not from an overly Westernized city. She takes pride in being my mother, sister, best friend, and whore.

Strip away the armoring and defenses from what people say. These are the classes of relations men want from women.

Title	How do men want women to behave?
Author	opheliamy
Upvotes	122
Comments	413
Date	February 17, 2021 10:57 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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