There is a active push to limit the scope of socially acceptable venues to approach a woman

GrammaticalError69 · 2023-11-06T14:25:22+00:00

You're forgetting rules 1 & 2.

Notanothrshitthrow · 2023-11-06T13:16:55+00:00

There will always be people who don't want to be approached regardless of venue, you're just listening to those people.

You're always taking a risk when approaching someone, you can either accept that risk of rejection or don't bother approaching anyone anywhere. It's up to you.

If you think that actually there's a concerted, conspiratorial effort to stop men from hitting on women in all scenarios, then that's brain rot.

yeahrum · 2023-11-06T13:25:34+00:00

There will always be women who complain about being approached. Just be respectful and take rejection like a decent person and it's fine.

toasterchild · 2023-11-06T14:20:20+00:00

This is what makes interacting with people hard. Some people want to be interacted with one way and some another way and you don't know which is which until you actually interact with them. Yes it would be WAY easier if everyone reacted the same way in every situation but they do not. Some women don't mind being approached, some like it only under certain circumstances like when they aren't alone and some hate it not matter what.

ThePleasureIsAllMind · 2023-11-06T13:26:51+00:00

Jesus Christ, dude, you make the same post every single day. How many new fucking members do you think this sub gets for this whine to need repeating all the time.

Turbulent-Tonight975 · 2023-11-06T20:38:06+00:00

This is more black pill bullshit

All it involves is talking to a woman and seeing if she is interested in a conversation. Her words, tone, and body language will make it clear if she wants to talk or not. If she doesn't want to talk, you politely make some reason to leave, or just leave, and tell her to have a good day.

There is no movement. Many women wish men would approach them. Even better is that in person many women get to see aspects of men outside of looks that online dating completely ignores such as humor, phermonal attraction, chemistry, common interests, liking you as a person, charisma.

Alll 6 of your situations are propaganda for guys to cry and bitch about how meeting women is impossible and blame society for my problems!!! I have met almost all of my girlfriends not on dating apps or online. Most of the women I have met in the real world are far better than what I can match with online, and they are generally higher quality more reasonable women because they are not falling into the traps on online dating.

Seriously guys, get out there and talk to women. Doing it regularly will boast your social skills and make social interactions in any context easier and more fluid. It will help with your career and making friends as well.

CasseroleTruck · 2023-11-06T19:36:49+00:00

Am I going crazy, was this thread not up a couple weeks ago and then a couple weeks ago before that with the exact same wording?

demedermidimi · 2023-11-06T13:26:12+00:00

policies aren't being passed, no one's trying to make approaching illegal. there are no real consequences to approaching women. do with that what you will

Ammonium_nitrate_but · 2023-11-06T13:17:00+00:00

4) you know that you can approach them not in a lecture hall? There are a lot of places in uni/college that you can meet girls and talk to them.

thetruthishere_ · 2023-11-06T14:43:04+00:00

Are they making new laws about this? Is it in the news all the time?

What active push? Some loud minority on social media?

obviousredflag · 2023-11-06T13:51:54+00:00

Oh another autism take on why you can't socialize like everyone else, but it's not because of your autism but because of women and society. Don't you get bored by beating that dead horse? Pointing out double standards that you make up in your head is not going to lead anywhere. Placing two contradicting voices against each other that don't come from the same group of people is not a double standard or even a contradiction of the same underlying rule/stance.

Don't you understand that your quest to find the "one size fits all" formula on how to get women does not exist and you need to do the thing you can't: read social situations in the moment to decide if you should approach the woman or not.

Yes, some women want to be approached, some don't. Some want to be approached by some men and in some situations.

I know it must be super frustrating for you to want to find the right way to act in all situations, because you need to follow clear rules, where there can't be clear rules. But you are not getting anywhere with this approach, except becoming even more socially awkward than you already are, or becoming a complete socially isolated guy, out of fear of doing it wrong.
Bothering women and being seen as creepy, having unwanted attention or people approaching is OKAY! You are allowed to confront people with a negative emotion when you approach them.

All of the 6 points you listed are okay and i regularly do them, with various degress of success. Various, because not all people are into me and not all people are open to the specific kind of approach in this specific situation. Every person and situation is different.

Gravel_Roads · 2023-11-06T13:57:52+00:00

Lol, "women" aren't limiting you at all, it's Common Sense that you're mad at.

it's attractive for a man to be able to approach a woman with confidence."Yikes! Women will assume you want to sleep with them which is a turn off!"

But... you ARE approaching her because you want to sleep with her. A woman making that assumption would be correct, in this case. For women who don't want to sleep with you, no amount of confident approaching will get her to sleep with you. Not all women are equally receptive, and yes, some will find it unpleasant to have a random dude come up to her and ask to pump his semen into her vagina.

This isn't a "push" to bar men from approaching women. This is you not LIKING the idea that women wouldn't find the invitation appealing.

Common Sense says: Even if you were strongly encouraged to approach women confidently, if they don't want want sex with you, they won't have sex withyou.

be upfront and honest with your intentions from the get-go. "Eww, this creepo thinks it is okay to bother women just going about their day"

This isn't about approaching anyone - it's just another version of your #1, which is "women might find my desire to fuck them unattractive and that discourages me".

Common Sense says: Even if you were strongly ENCOURAGED to approach these women, if they don't want to be bothered, they won't want to be bothered.

try some more social events, like night clubs*! "OMG, I'm just trying to enjoy a night out with my friends!"*

Common Sense says: Even if you were strongly encouraged to approach women at night clubs, if they're out with their friends, and they want to enjoy spending time with their friends, they still won't be receptive to your approach.

University is a great place to meet girls!"The lecture hall isn't a meat market and women don't really appreciate someone hitting on them when they're trying to focus on understanding the course material."

When people say "university", they aren't meaning "approach women during the middle of a lesson!" They mean go to parties and social events and meet women where women are looking to meet new people.

Common Sense says: Even if you were encouraged to approach women during lessons, it still wouldn't result in you getting sex because the woman is obviously busy and has other things on her mind.

Just ask girls out you meet at the bar or social events "uhhmmm... I don't... Like... Even... Know you....bro"

?? This isn't a universal response, you're just using a weird line as an example of how someone could get rejected.

Common Sense says: Not being guaranteed a victory is not the same thing as being barred from participating.

it's easier to ask a girl out in your social circle "Apparently all my male acquaintances would fuck me given half the chance"

Many male friends WOULD fuck their female friends if given half the chance. Many female friends would also fuck their male friends if given half the chance. What determines whether people fuck or not is when that "willing to fuck" sentiment goes both ways.

However, I think people are mostly meaning "network through your friends to meet more people", not just "try to fuck your friends, bro!"

Common Sense says: Having friends increases your dating pool. It doesn't guarantee you'll date them.

Here's the thing I think you're missing: YOU STILL HAVE TO BE APPEALING COMPANY THAT'S FUN TO BE AROUND.

DreaminInChocolate · 2023-11-06T14:46:53+00:00

Yeah, different people are allowed to have different opinions. They're allowed to talk about those opinions too. Approach if you want to approach. They can feel however about it. No one is stopping you.

tritter211 · 2023-11-06T15:26:59+00:00

OP, this post of yours is classic blackpill autistic paranoia

You are putting way too much value on what other people think.

A lot of what you wrote is only true within certain contexts, and it won't apply to all contexts.

A lot of problems that men face is mostly due to structural factors, and only a small part is due to certain women. A lot of social venues are getting lost because of structural decisions made in the past by politicians, lobbyists, capitalists, and regulators, etc.

You really should learn how to read social cues. And decide when and where to approach so that you can maximize your success with women. It takes a lot of trial and error, but you got to play the field to get better.

Expecting clear, artificial, conflict free dating rules will never get you anywhere. In fact, this thought process of yours will put you in further social isolation.

Sadsad0088 · 2023-11-06T14:20:08+00:00

I think the issue is looking for validation on the internet and people make all these rules as a way to weed out guys who would look for validation online lol

Berzabu · 2023-11-06T14:30:14+00:00

Yes they want to keep you from approaching when they don't feel attracted to you. But it has always been like that. All those venues you mentioned are perfectly fine as long as she is into you. What can you do about this? Approach anyway, because that's the only way to know whether she likes you or not.

pikecat · 2023-11-06T21:45:04+00:00

My Dad met my Mum in an elevator. I think that that disproves any idea that it should only be allowed in certain place. My life depends on it.

Particular_Trade6308 · 2023-11-07T16:47:37+00:00

Women’s strategic objective is to maximize approaches from hot guys and minimize approaches from ugly guys.

There’s no contradiction here. If you’re not attractive, making friends with women to date them is creepy and manipulative. If you’re attractive, it’s getting to know them. Repeat for every setting.

I know a guy who hit on his dental hygienist while she was cleaning his teeth. He slept with her a week later. I guarantee you that women would not recommend trying to pick up a healthcare worker that is treating you. He’s 6’4” white and plays rugby.

DerayRevan · 2023-11-06T14:12:21+00:00

Where in the world are you getting such quotes bro

arsenalfc4life1500 · 2023-11-06T17:50:22+00:00

Or you could just learn about body language and indicators of interest? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBOtj1RmaUE&t=1s

januaryphilosopher · 2023-11-06T15:51:54+00:00

Who is pushing? Both men and women want dates. Women even want to be approached more. Most people are fine with approaches in all these places and the biggest pieces of counterevidence anyone has given me to this are random tiktoks. It seems like the main push is to use something being apparently socially unacceptable as an excuse not to do it even when most don't have a problem with it.

tofuwings · 2023-11-06T18:31:23+00:00

Women get tired of being hit on all the time so they bitch sometimes like you guys bitch about stuff sometimes. Don’t take it so much to heart and just be polite if you approach and realize interactions with other people are unpredictable and have zero guarantees.

Also women complain cuz many have had weirdos approach them. And if you think by weirdo I mean ugly you have no idea of some of the scary nonsense out there.

Lina-Inverse · 2023-11-06T19:10:49+00:00

This is purely just noise from a small group of socially maladjusted women on the internet.

Men should not be listening to women on the internet when it comes to dating advice.

The shit they believe is not normal.

8won6 · 2023-11-06T19:17:57+00:00

these "rules" are strictly for the undesirable guys. take them with a grain of salt. if the dude is attractive enough she'll be flirting with him at a funeral.

Twinseo09 · 2023-11-06T19:46:31+00:00

No, the only issue here is that you're overly reliant on what other people have told you. When you ask a question on the internet, you're likely to receive a mixed response of answers. This is a common problem for a lot of you men. You want a simple answer when it comes to dating, but it's much more nuanced and there isn't a one-size-fits-all solution nor response.

This post serves as further evidence of that. Instead of reaching the conclusion that the topic is nuanced and you will receive mixed replies, you're concluding that the options for approaching are becoming limited. Just because 3-6 women on the internet advised against approaching a woman due to X doesn't mean it's universally true.

justforlulz12345 · 2023-11-06T20:49:52+00:00

Only for non chads 😂😂😂

lostacoshermanos · 2023-11-06T21:42:43+00:00

Actually the truth is not all women have that response for each one some do some don’t.

salehbassmusic · 2023-11-07T02:58:39+00:00

Just be attractive

polyaddictia · 2023-11-07T05:47:43+00:00

You’ll never get a straight, good faith answer from women and bluepillers on this sub, just variations of ”it’s just your algorithm!”, ”um, I’ve never seen anyone do that, your observation is completely false”

Electronic_West_1831 · 2023-11-06T14:30:17+00:00

There isn’t an “active push” to limit anything; the majority of women are only interested in a small percentage of men, so simply do not want to be approached - cold or otherwise - by the majority of men. So if you don’t look like a Greek god with a ten inch cock, then most women will express revulsion at you merely existing within their orbit; but that is their prerogative.

placeholder-123 · 2023-11-06T13:21:50+00:00

What you need to understand is that if you're attractive you can approach women whenever and wherever. All this NPC talk about how it's not acceptable to approach women is meant to discourage low value males from doing it.

OutsideSound3247 · 2023-11-06T13:43:31+00:00

If you're attractive, women will fall for you even if you're taking a dump on the streets while strangling puppies.

The push to limit scope is for regular guys whose only role in current society is to work, pay taxes and die

NotMattDamien · 2023-11-06T14:36:12+00:00

If you have to think it over this much , sadly, it’s already over.

Like other comments are saying just follow the classic rules 1 & 2, then the women will make it easy for you.

TheAvocadoSlayer · 2023-11-06T16:34:45+00:00

Meanwhile, the guys who don’t care about coming off as a creep are actually getting laid.

GrammaticalError69 · 2023-11-06T14:29:52+00:00

Look up Steven Schapiro on YouTube, his whole channel is based on hitting on women randomly in public. He acts fucking weird in most of them but they are receptive because he's hot. If you're attractive you can approach women anywhere, the rules you talk about are for unattractive men.

kvakerok · 2023-11-06T14:44:49+00:00

Feminists failed at life and want other women to fail too. Misery loves company.

Odd_Interest_5311 · 2023-11-06T14:12:48+00:00

Nah it's not active. It's passive. Why would women want to be approached by strangers when they can just hook up with men from their social circles or from hinge?

Fit_Dark_6918 · 2023-11-06T20:21:30+00:00

By who? Emily the obese, zoloft addicted, misandrist? She’s not gonna do shit. Women in the real world still love to be approached. The police are not gonna care if a bitter bitch gets her feelings hurt.

Amiskon2 · 2023-11-06T15:49:21+00:00

The idea is to restrict 80% of men from approaching women, but keep the doors for 20% to men to approach them.

Women just hate any effort and responsiblity or choice, so they want men winner men to choose themselves and then date them.

In the past it was men fighting each other and women picking the winners, but thanks God men are not fighting for decaying pussy anymore.

Commerced8297 · 2023-11-06T21:18:26+00:00

I had tried to discuss this topic with someone who when asked if they happen to be a woman, they didn't answer.

So somehow I found this sub, and I have been examining the RP aspect. It seems to be more consistent with a minimalism philosophy than the BP does.

The BP experience may be greater, but the unease at 'too much excitement' make me more red pill, simply because of the lesser spending. The BP seems to me -- what they used to call "the rat race" back in the 1950's-forward, as far as economics goes. But there is no employee/employer loyalty anymore, (As if employers ever were, but some gems could be sought without to being too onerous.)

I've found the VERY BEST PLACE is to volunteer work in your favorite charity. That is where to find good people.

AbsolutelyNobody0 · 2023-11-06T18:59:28+00:00

The solution to this is obvious. Just don't give a fuck what women want. Do you give a fuck what men want? No? Then just keep that same energy with women. If they've got a problem, they can deal with that themselves.

TidyMess123 · 2023-11-07T05:30:55+00:00

The only reason there is such a push is because most men will not take “no” or “I’m not interested” as an answer. If men would just move along after the initial rejection, and not turn it into a drawn-out interaction the woman is forced to deal with, it wouldn’t be such a problem. It’s why so many single women will lie and say that they have a boyfriend, as they know that many more men will take that as a complete answer, than just saying that you’re not interested.

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AceOfSpadesGymBro2 · 2023-11-06T16:54:34+00:00

https://youtube.com/shorts/wg_ElNqdv8s?si=tP5zQVNb1O8WPDho

DapperDan1929 · 2023-11-06T17:44:57+00:00

Men both love and fear women simultaneously. And vice versa

Spyro7x3 · 2023-11-06T20:24:01+00:00

I'm gonna let y'all in on the best kept secret of the modern world.

Kava/Kratom bars. I've picked up 4-5 girls from Kava bars not even trying. The crowd is infinitely more bearable than the alcohol scene and tbh its just a better drug period but you can definitely be sober and still enjoy it kick back and have a yerba mate or thc cookie whatever your pace is.

ornamentalwallpaper · 2023-11-07T01:55:06+00:00

read the room

thisreallyisnotok · 2023-11-07T04:59:40+00:00

The people who think cold approaching is always wrong are the antisocial ones incapable of reading the room. They probably can’t even make small talk with service staff.

Confident-Cupcake164 · 2023-11-07T08:35:55+00:00

Nah. I just approach sugar babies.

Usually I start with simple trade. IQ tests for money. Or video chat.

SyrusDrake · 2023-11-07T12:02:34+00:00

I understand you, OP. I've also given up on dating and on a lot of socializing in general because I find the different and often contradictory rules confusing and exhausting. It's just not for me. But that was my choice, not the result of a conscious global conspiracy.

Almost everyone in my social environment is in a relationship. If there was some sinister global cabal trying to force men into celibacy, they're doing a fucking awful job. If the observation of reality is contradicting the hypothesis, the hypothesis is wrong.

Joyful-Adsorption · 2023-11-07T19:08:45+00:00

If you are always approaching attractive women, know that a lot of other guys are, too. When I was in college, I got hit on multiple times a day. It was nerve wracking when a guy opened a door for me, because 1/3 of the time he would rush through hitting on me during that short period of time, throwing everything he had into it. In a span of 7 seconds I would hear how he loved my hair, I had a gorgeous body, and he had seen me a few times and always looked for me when walking to class. That's a lot to get thrown at you! I had a boyfriend, so constantly turning down guys was heartbreaking and difficult.

But yeah, anywhere seemed to be free game. Walking to class, standing in line at the store, sitting and talking with friends, I would get approached anywhere.

However, I loved it when a guy would just be friendly. They'd walk up and I would of course be wary like, here we go again. But he would just be chatty, ask questions about me, or where we were at. Talk a bit about himself. Then right as he was leaving, then he would ask me out, or for my number. So I felt like a person, not just a pretty face or an opportunity. Even better if it was someone who I saw everyday or frequently and they were friendly a few times before they asked.

I'm 42 now and invisible with age and my wedding ring and I wouldn't go back to those early years for anything. It's hard being young with hormones raging. Hang in there, strike up conversations first. Hope that helps.

Sabrepill · 2023-12-06T01:02:09+00:00

Have you tried not caring about what women and society thinks and instead living your life for yourself?

The biggest thing you’ll face by approaching a woman and getting rejected is embarrassment. If you approach many women then you might be the target of social ostracizing or female reputation destruction. And if you approach a woman who’s not single or near a white knight you could get into a fight.

Those are your repercussions. So learn how to avoid fights or how to fight. Learn how to not give a fuck about female attempts at reputation destruction. And learn how to approach women without coming off as creepy. Then you have nothing to worry about because you’ve achieved a super power called idgaf.

I don’t give a fuck

Title	There is a active push to limit the scope of socially acceptable venues to approach a woman
Author	Napo_De_Leone
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Date	November 6, 2023 1:12 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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