You Can't Claim Alpha Fux Beta Bux Isn't Real And At The Same Time Say You Had Sex With A Guy You Didn't Want A Relationship With

AestheticSaiyan · 2022-07-07T01:21:13+00:00

No, people are banging hot dudes regardless of personality, and hoping to settle down with hot dudes with good personalities.

EugeneCezanne · 2022-07-07T03:24:22+00:00

So by this logic, every man who has ever had casual sex with a woman who didnt want to have a full on relationship with him is, by definition, alpha? Now why does that seem not true?

todo_pasa_ · 2022-07-07T02:11:53+00:00

Men don’t want to be in a relationship with every girl they sleep with. This is exhausting are you not exhausted?

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-07-07T00:00:48+00:00

Bro, haven’t you known a girl that you couldn’t stand but she was so hot you’d still fuck her if she let you? You wouldn’t marry her, but damn if you didn’t at least once think about what she looked like naked? Why do you think women can’t also be like “I’m not trying to have a life with the guy, just a few orgasms!”

AestheticSaiyan · 2022-07-07T01:45:32+00:00

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GlowingAsItDazzles · 2022-07-06T23:59:22+00:00

i didnt want a relationship with every man i slept with, but every man i had a relationship with started as a "man i slept with" right away just like the others

ashpr0ulx · 2022-07-07T00:01:13+00:00

or, hear me out: sex is enjoyable and doesn’t always need to be with someone you’d marry.

jerryagno · 2022-07-07T12:37:51+00:00

‘Sex at Dawn’ by Cecilda Jetha and Christopher Ryan explains all the nuance behind this notion very well. I recommend everyone in this subreddit read it.

2022-07-07T15:02:29+00:00

Women have egos too and rest assured that guys they are fucking on the casual are guys they wouldn't mind getting into a relationship with if it happens. The issue is that when it doesn't happen one needs to rationalize that as something she never wanted in the first place in order to salvage her ego. Sort of a I'm taking my you don't dump me, I dump you move.

trippingfingers · 2022-07-06T23:54:03+00:00

You just posted a giant logical fallacy and capitalized the first letter of every word.

Not only is the first thing NOT implied by the second, even if it was you still couldn't claim that the fact that the second sometimes happens means the first one is always true.

figuringMylife · 2022-07-07T03:25:35+00:00

i had a casual relationship with an average guy because he was really nice and invited me over for tacos and anime. he was Indian, 5’7ish. successful in the making. exactly my type. even made jokes about how his family would accept it if he married a black girl but we had no passion because he really wanted a relationship and i just didn’t. it was cool.

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2022-07-07T04:45:30+00:00

there's no strict definitions of alphas or betas but if by AF/BB you just mean that women are more likely to have sex with attractive men, that seems pretty obviously true.

DXBrigade · 2022-07-07T13:35:13+00:00

Nope. Because there is a big overlap between the guys who have casual sex and the guys who do LTR. Woman A might see you as boyfriend material but Woman B might think differentely. My boyfriend had casual sex with other women before meeting me.

Willow-girl · 2022-07-07T03:23:02+00:00

Either AFBB is real or women want to be in relationships with all the men they have sex with.

False dichotomy.

Sometimes you can like a guy enough to hang out with him and even have sex with him, but there are dealbreakers when it comes to an actual committed relationship, so he gets put in the FWB bucket until one of you gets into a serious relationship with someone else.

kalashhhhhhhh · 2022-07-07T00:03:43+00:00

It really isn't about the money. You either like someone or you don't. Me and my bf are both in college and none of us have money (yet). He didn't have to jump through hoops or something to sleep with me. We banged the first day both of us were single and just made it official a month later because we are very compatible, have fun together and developed real feelings (knew each other as friends for almost a year at that point). The casual guy I slept with just never made me feel those things. He's a great dude, but I just didn't like him like that.

LiftSushiDallas · 2022-07-06T23:47:18+00:00

Your premise doesn't work.

I can not want a relationship with every man I slept with--AND I HAVE NOT WANTED A RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERY MAN I SLEPT WITH--and still not be "fucking alphas and settling for betas."

I didn't want a relationship when I first had sex with my now boyfriend yet here we are 3 years later. He definitely is not my beta bux; he pays none of my bills and I'm super attracted to him.

Women can have non-committal sex without splitting all men into alphas or betas.

And despite the claims of unhappy, resentful men on here, women aren't all "settling" for betas because we can't get alphas to commit. I'm with my #1 choice man whom I also slept with on date 2.

sacredhighpriestess · 2022-07-07T12:22:58+00:00

Why is every PPD post is about "why women want to sleep with only hot guys but want to settle with a not so hot guy??

Do y'all ever stop who women are sleeping with and maybe work on not putting yourselves down like this?!!!

R_O_Brother · 2022-07-07T00:05:46+00:00

who is upvoting this. this is literal gibberish.

chilumibrainrot · 2022-07-07T03:11:11+00:00

yea, ive fucked a guy that i didnt want a relationship with. but i also didnt talk to anyone else or lead anyone one. maybe get some bitches instead of over-analyzing the sex lives of others

AestheticSaiyan · 2022-07-06T23:57:14+00:00

The problem with AF/BB is the extra lore you add onto it.

Yes, the hot guy can get casual sex more easily. Yes.

But then you go and add shit to it and act like AF/BB is proven if you can proof that the hot guy has access to casual sex.

Get genes from the alpha, then find a beta to get resources and commitment from.

Like fucking this. This.Is.Bullshit.

Women aren't committing parental fraude all over the place. No. And none of your claims suggest they do, but suddenly the hot guy having casual sex proofs this. Wtf.

lacylanda · 2022-07-07T00:31:19+00:00

Women can do what they like and they are not answerable to you, they don't care what you think or have to explain or justify their actions to any man, anymore. I know you need to make up all these rules behavioural patterns to try and make sense of it and why you get rejected, that it makes your anger seem justified as opposed to entitled and irrational but otherwise literally just men making up shit to try and beat down and shame women but women don't give a fuck what you think.

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Stunning-Potato-1984 · 2022-07-07T05:27:28+00:00

Or he's kinda dumb but he'll let you peg him and he has a foot fetish so he falls into the fux category because: pathetic and amusing.

People are nuanced and complex man.

nemma88 · 2022-07-07T08:22:30+00:00

You Can't Claim Alpha Fux Beta Bux Isn't Real And At The Same Time Say You Had Sex With A Guy You Didn't Want A Relationship With

There's an assumption in there then that guy must be AF. The one time I was up for casual sex with a guy who I didn't want a relationship with he was neither better nor worse than my attraction for any other partner, the decision that I didn't want a relationship with him was rational based on thinking brain and not any sort of instinct.

2022-07-07T15:19:21+00:00

Dude, I see women bng a lot of mids and lowers and total bumswhere you just look at her and think "Damn, bitch. You'll fuck anything huh? Like you really question their low self esteem and how she can handle herself in stressful situations. Either way, she's a bad decision .

Physical-Pie748 · 2022-07-07T15:22:32+00:00

paternity fraud is alpha fux beta bux

AnnoKano · 2022-07-07T19:23:35+00:00

Well there’s at least one situation in which you have sex with someone who you don’t want a relationship with, so clearly you’re wrong.

High_Pains_of_WTX · 2022-07-07T23:19:55+00:00

The amount of cognitive dissonance in these comments is unreal.

Best_Illustrator_137 · 2022-07-08T04:46:41+00:00

You’re wrong, girls want to bang hot dudes and marry hot dudes, hot dudes usually don’t want marriage or aren’t looking to settle for one girl cause they know they’re attractive.

sarkington · 2022-07-07T00:22:24+00:00

Who says it’s not real? It’s the claim that all women and no men do it that we take issue with

womandatory · 2022-07-07T13:08:51+00:00

Most women don’t make weird, unequivocal claims like this, because we respect that we’re all different. We do appreciate and accept generalizations when they’re due though, but this just doesn’t stack up. I’ve banged a few guys when the itch was there in my 20s. Were they ‘alphas’ though?

I’m starting to think ‘alphas’ are actually guys that just don’t buy-in to stupid shit like this and accept casual sex for the brief, sweet, circumspect gift that it is, and that ‘betas’ are simply guys who sit at home, undateable, because they’re convinced they lack some magic, like a big dick or a six pack of abs.

The things the undateable guys I know lack are confidence, endurance and a philosophical indifference to rejection. The most beautiful women in the world have been rejected. If they can suck it up, so can average men.

2022-07-07T03:51:29+00:00

nobody denies alpha fucks just beta bucks

nvkr_ · 2022-07-07T07:18:55+00:00

You’re making a whole lot of assumptions that you don’t talk about. Let me point out some of them. For your statement to be true,

a) there has to be a fixed set of characteristics that make a man either alpha or beta. It’s not possible for a man to be one woman’s alpha and another woman’s beta at the same time. So SMV has to be an objective value, not a relative one (as common sense would assume).

b) relationships have to be defined primarily as financial relationships. That means, the man has to pay for the woman in some way, while the woman doesn’t have to reciprocate. Additionally, she has to be financially dependent on a partner, as otherwise she wouldn’t have an incentive to stop having casual sex with alphas. Or she does get something else out of a committed relationship. But that would interfere with the assumption that all the beta can provide is financial stability and nothing else.

c) casual sex always has to be the better option for a man, compared to a committed relationship, in any case. If it wouldn’t, we would see alphas getting into relationships, which would make it unnecessary for women to settle for a beta.

d) men have to be the only gender that’s able to act against their evolutionary drives. While women obviously can’t evade the urge to get the man with the best genes, men (or betas) can act against their urge to spread their seed among all women and become a beta.

e) looks have to be the only thing that can cause sexual attraction. You have to rule out attractiveness through behavior, through style, through status or personality.

f) every woman has generally to be willing to have sex with someone they’re not attracted to, as sexual attraction for every women can obviously be compensated with financial stability - even if the women makes her own money and doesn’t have to rely on alimonies.

That’s just six of these assumptions, if I would further analyze, I’m convinced I’d find a lot more. It’s up to you to prove these assumptions if you want to keep your conclusion.

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2022-07-07T13:56:53+00:00

I’m a fuck on the first date to see if we are sexually compatible type of person.

So I have dated fucked men that were hot but they didn’t hold my interest because they were boring

I have dated and fucked men not traditionally good looking but so funny, seriously if you can make me laugh enough even if you look like shrek I’ll end up fancying you.

I have dated and fucked men I really liked but they lost interest

I had a fuck buddy for years that was a really good friend, neither wanted a relationship but the sex was great.

I have had one night stands that I have woken up and thought how could I have been that drunk that seemed a good idea.

I have fucked men that I didn’t even fancy that much because I was horny and they were there.

Specialist-Action-33 · 2022-07-07T00:35:00+00:00

Get genes from the alpha, then find a beta to get resources and commitment from.

This is what single unmarried moms (mostly under the age of 25) will do as a way of correcting their own mistakes.

bluehorserunning · 2022-07-07T03:52:57+00:00

Yes AFBB is real and why if you dont want to be a BB you shouldn't get married.

ImACarebear1986 · 2022-07-07T05:51:06+00:00

I am really tired after trying to read that…

Are all of you males who seem to have been labelled or label themselves ‘non-alpha’ so sooky and whinge like this all the time?

Wtf 😳.

Men and women sleep do this. Not just women. Why so much anger?

wtknight · 2022-07-07T03:06:57+00:00

Many of the men that women have casual sex with are alpha guys who they don't feel a connection enough to have a relationship with. That doesn't mean that they don't end up in relationships with alpha guys who they do have a connection with.

AestheticSaiyan · 2022-07-07T04:13:28+00:00

Nah. Have had hot fwb who I didn't care to have as partners. My partner is far hotter than any of them AND I love who he is as a person and we're aiming to be together until death or whatever apocalypse may come first. Maybe AFBB is the case for some, but not everyone.

bluehorserunning · 2022-07-07T11:21:08+00:00

Women, by and large, don't 'get genes from' men with whom they have casual sex. That's what birth control is for. Most women choose to have children with men whom they are in LTRs with, married or not.

Flightlessbirbz · 2022-07-07T11:57:49+00:00

I’ve never thought “I would never date this guy but I will have sex with him.” Sometimes you find out later that you’re not compatible, or they don’t want a relationship with you. But the guys I’ve been more casual with weren’t fundamentally different from those I’ve been serious with in any consistent way, it’s mostly been a matter of timing.

Interestingly, this is more a male thinking pattern I believe. Dividing women into Madonnas and whores, deciding some are good enough to fuck but not to date. Not that women never do this too, I’m sure women who are more into casual sex do. But it’s still more male-typical behavior. Most women don’t actively seek out casual sex enough for your theory to work.

2022-07-07T12:09:42+00:00

This is so repetitive and boring. I think there is more to a person that being physically attractive like being smart, interesting, similar lifestyle, supportive of your goals, has a good character etc.

Many women now date not looking for anything and just see what happens. I don’t think that’s wrong as people aren’t obliged to marry or settle down. Many now accept relationships might not last forever or don’t have to be monogamous even.

Also this whole AFBB seems to ignore that someone might meet a hot guy and realise he is really stupid, that’s a turnoff. Hot doesn’t last forever. I think many people want someone hot AND smart (among many other attributes).

I don’t get why people care about this and if that’s any issue date with that in mind. Why shame others.

2022-07-07T12:48:43+00:00

Bro we have sex with rich ugly guys that we don’t want a relationship with constantly, please lmao

Catherine772023 · 2022-07-07T13:44:02+00:00

Having send with a guy you don’t want to date doesn’t always have to be about money. Not everyone is going for money with partners. Maybe if they want to be SAHMs but not everyone goes for the cash when dating.

This post doesn’t apply to everyone.

Life-Ad-9183 · 2022-07-07T14:08:36+00:00

This is not it. Women enjoy sex and don’t always want a relationship. OR like most women, they enjoy sex with attractive people but didn’t find their personality relationship worthy. They wait for someone who is hot and they are compatible personality wise. Men also have sex with attractive women before marriage they wouldn’t marry. You are way over complicating it. It shouldn’t matter who they slept with before you. My partner slept with plenty of people before me and same for me. It allowed us to learn what we like and don’t like. I don’t think about their past sex life at all it doesn’t bother me. He doesn’t think of mine. That is weirdly obsessive.

ruboyuri · 2022-07-07T16:25:46+00:00

We don’t have to use your silly terminology if we don’t want to, especially since there is a perfectly good way of expressing it already — which you so helpfully provided right in your OP

ThrowRAmtf · 2022-07-07T03:51:12+00:00

They are different beasts.

As there are different Alphas.

A woman might go with a hot guy also to assert her dominance in her peer group of female friends. There is envy and imitation. I have met countless girls that told me they had given their virginity to a random hot guy not because they loved him but just because they were the last virgin in their class or wanted to be the first to lose it.

Sex happens for a lot of different reasons.

AFBB happens but a bit later in life, between 19-25 when the young woman knows that she is desiderable regardless of her face and character. At this stage some women (not all of them) exploit this sexyness to go with the hottest guys. At that stage the genetics plays a role and they probably look at favorable genes (expecially if they are not under birth control and their ovulation is normal).

Summary: TLDR.

AFFB is real but there are many more causes to casual sex. It's more complicated than that.

AcanthocephalaNew947 · 2022-07-07T05:04:49+00:00

So… incels don’t know how birth control works…

I’m Perplexed 🤔

Capital_Scratch4562 · 2022-07-07T04:06:39+00:00

Or you’re a creepy incel and literally overthinking life.

If I want just sex in that period of my life, I will have just sex. If I want a relationship in that period of my life, I will pursue a relationship.

Go touch some grass and take a step back from your ideology. What you are thinking is weird and only a thought process because you are not actively thinking in the real world. Stop being a sexist. Please just take a step back and realize it’s not that complicated, and you are subscribing to the incel ideology.

wrathofkalima · 2022-07-07T11:38:35+00:00

What is it with these dumb terms? You guys are ridiculous.

userhasleftchat · 2022-07-07T14:03:57+00:00

The fact that you are even using the terms “alpha” and “beta” to refer to human social hierarchy is why I can’t take any of you red-pillers seriously. So much cringe.

Also, there are many women who don’t want anyone’s “seed” whether they be alpha, beta, sigma, or whatever the fuck.

People have sex with other people based on a multitude of factors. To try to narrow it down to such a base level omits a lot of important details.

So really, there is no way to even try to have a discussion about this when the point/topic is not really a valid one for discussion anyway.

You are asking us (women specifically it seems) to identify basic primal biological reproductive initiatives which are largely unconscious thus we are not even aware of these on a conscious level henceforth the inability to discuss them.

We are humans and do not think in such a way.

RealNiceLady · 2022-07-07T11:24:02+00:00

women want to be in relationships with all the men they have sex with.

This.

AelfredRex · 2022-07-07T12:58:01+00:00

Women hope to get a relationship from the men they have sex with, then over time they make that decision whether it's worth pursuing that goal with that particular person.

It's not an either/or situation. Personality makes all the difference in the end, not money. And no, they are not "seeking genes", they are seeking a mate for life, and that's way more than just bodily functions.

I hope most can tell who the immature ones who don't have their shit together are. The serious use of terms like "Alpha" and "Beta" are dead give-aways.

Emmett_is_Bored · 2022-07-07T16:52:32+00:00

The repeated demonstration that a lot of y’all seem to believe that women aren’t actually capable of falling in love and only think about either sex or money really does explain a LOT.

People can fuck someone they don’t want to be in a relationship w/o that meaning that your “AFBB” brain worms are real.

YourAverageTurkGuy · 2022-07-07T20:15:41+00:00

Everyone has different moral principles bro. If I was a young woman with options, I could have chose to explore these options.

The BetaBuxx is genuinely okay paying the lifestyle of a woman and her children and gets some sort of fake/real(debatable) intimacy and commitment in return. Although I would not recommend the BetaBuxx route since they generally get cheated on :/

And me, personally, wouldn't own up someone else's child nor pay for their lifestyle. So if you are pissed off at these Beta's and chicks who ride the Carousel; there are still people like you out there who are off the Tinder matrix.

Ill-Recognition2054 · 2022-07-08T11:38:05+00:00

He thinks he missed out on fun, younger days and depending on your point of view, he most definitely did. He had no self confidence or esteem and was very shy. His work has enabled him to develop the above and I get the feeling he wants to have his cake and eat it so to speak.

theantisocialiate · 2022-07-07T03:06:10+00:00

well no this is wrong bc youre thinking about it backwards. ive slept w ugly men when drunk that i would never marry. i'd sleep with a guy any height but i would never marry a man who was under 5'10.

Good-Strong · 2022-07-07T17:48:10+00:00

The guy she had sex with but didn't want to settle down with may not have necessarily been "alpha" though?

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