Men don't hate promiscuous women

Song_of_Pain · 2023-10-05T19:29:19+00:00

I have nothing against sexually promiscuous women, I just know that highly sociosexual women are going to be a bad fit for me in a relationship so I don't try to date them.

veloron2008 · 2023-10-05T22:01:27+00:00

Men do not hate promiscuous women. Many do fear the consequences of widespread promiscuity and the resulting breakdown of family, on society.

In fact some men desire promiscuous women. But only temporarily until they get off. These women are repulsive to men in the relationship sense. Why?

It's simple. A woman who has given herself to many different men isn't worth anything. The very definition of low value.

I would argue it's the same for promiscuous men, but women have to be the judge of that.

neinhaltchad · 2023-10-05T17:26:30+00:00

Some men do indeed “hate” promiscuous women.

It’s the basis of that old joke:

What do you a call a woman who will fuck anyone?

A slut.

What do you call a woman who will fuck anyone but you?

A bitch.

Personally, I know a few sex workers and women who sport fuck who I think a wonderful people.

The fact that they indulge in casual sex doesn’t mean they aren’t funny, kind, intelligent or interesting.

For me, the real resentment I believe comes from the duplicity and double standards women engage in with their sexual behavior for individual men they date.

Example:

One story with an ex that made me feel extremely resentful (not proud of it, but it’s what I felt)

Long story short, she had told me how she had these friends she would go to clubs with and it turned out they were “swingers”.

After nights out dancing, she ended up at a couple of their “parties” out of curiosity and drunkenness.

She said she didn’t participate but was just kind of drinking and listening to music, etc.

I know this sounds silly, but I’ve know her long enough to believe this is the most likely scenario. Again, long story.

The issue was after a while she casually talked about this particular “playboy” guy she was dating and it slipped out that she basically brought him out dancing one night with this group, and apparently all the girls in the group liked him “because of his muscles and stuff”

Well, the two of them ended up going back for another “party” and, while she again didn’t participate, she essentially allowed (or maybe even encouraged) the guy to fuck multiple women right in front of her.

Now normally, I’d be like “lucky guy” but my issue was that this was a girl that would show extreme jealousy and start shit with me for things like just interacting with other women in her presence. She had all kinds of demands of my behavior (don’t follow that girl on IG!) and “who are you going to see at your friends dinner tonight?” Etc.

The notion of me fucking another girl in front of her was inconceivable to her.

Basically, she clearly had a vastly different set of rules for me than she did with “the playboy guy with muscles”

Now, her explanation for this was what you often hear from PPD women: “Well, I didn’t take him seriously. He was just a playboy. He was just a guy for fun!” Etc

But to guy I’m going to tell you women how this translates from womanese to man.

“He was hot enough that, even though I couldn’t lock him down for a relationship (which I definitely tried to do) , I was willing to let him do whatever he wanted so I could maintain access to his dick. Including watching him fuck multiple other women right in front of me. However, you do not get that treatment because you are not hot enough. You are “relationship material” which means, instead of getting to experience sexual adventurism, you must instead pledge your fealty to me in exchange for me granting you access to pussy. You see, you are not hot enough for me to break my rules for”

It is THIS type of sexual behavior that I think generates the most anger and resentment in men.

Women doing X and Y for the “guy that’s hot but just for fun” but doing neither X nor Y for the “guy they want to settle down with”

Women, I promise you, that will never be okay with a man.

Opening_Tell9388 · 2023-10-05T16:37:11+00:00

Outside of the context of dating and committed relationships, sexually active women are well appreciated as common goods, social entertainers, and initiators for younger men into a more sexual life. They are not hated.

This premise is not true. These women are hated by men they are not fucking which is most of them. They are also hated by people with traditional world views. For corrupting the society and pulling social norms farther and more progressively than they prefer to live in. Maybe you're new to pill and manosphere spaces, but the fact remains women who explore and enjoy their sexuality are demonized constantly.

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2023-10-05T17:00:52+00:00

Of course individual men love promiscuous women, but institutionally (dare I drop the P-word?) it’s pretty clear they’re seen as dangerous. Crack open a Bible or a Koran some time.

I maintain that whether they’re conscious of it or not, a man’s ideal ratio of madonnas to whores in a society is 80:20. Everyone has a shot at a wife, plus something on the side.

GlaucusTheCuredOne · 2023-10-05T16:38:44+00:00

Women also do not like other promiscuous women. There have been interesting studies done. Mothers of sons do not like when other women sleep around, because she wants her son to pass on her genes. Women see other promiscuous women as competition and temptation to their men.

Promiscuous women are slut shamed mainly by other women, because they destabilize the mating market. Even in the early 1900s, prostitutes hated the flappers, or dating women, because the men got sex for free and didn't have to pay for it anymore.

Btw, most men are not benefiting from promiscuous womens sexual availability. A small minority gets most of the cheap sex.

tiddermacss · 2023-10-05T19:16:48+00:00

don’t know about hate but all things being equal if the choice is between a promiscuous woman and a non-promiscuous one ALL men with any capacity to think will choose the latter..

thedarkracer · 2023-10-05T19:40:14+00:00

Men don't hate them, they just don't wanna wife them.

Peacesquad · 2023-10-05T23:49:19+00:00

I like whores for sex but never take them seriously just like women love friend zoning guys for free attention and usefulness but would never fuck them. I don’t see a problem

animehents · 2023-10-05T23:54:17+00:00

Disgusting. I don't hate them but I think it's gross and wouldn't date them

Flightlessbirbz · 2023-10-05T19:34:39+00:00

Referring to a person as “common goods” is not a compliment. This is like referring to a wealthy and generous but unattractive and awkward man as an “ATM.” Do gold diggers “hate” those men? Not exactly, but no human wants to be reduced to a useful object.

And plenty of men who are not getting laid do actually hate promiscuous women out of jealousy.

Also, the equivalent of a promiscuous woman is a promiscuous man. Not a cheater. If formerly promiscuous women don’t make good wives, no reason to think formerly promiscuous men will make good husbands.

Nellylocheadbean · 2023-10-05T17:18:47+00:00

This argument is disingenuous because the point ppl make when they say “men hate promiscuous women” is men hate promiscuous women for relationships. No one is arguing or even care about how they’re appreciated outside of that so it’s irrelevant.

This is the equivalent to saying women don’t really hate simps. Simps are appreciated for putting the woman first. We like simps just not for sex & to be fair most of these men aren’t sexually attractive so it’s cool.

Simps are well appreciated for treating women with respect and being chivalrous & putting the woman 1st.

Workaholiconew · 2023-10-05T22:35:50+00:00

WTH? men dont hate promiscuous women...

That being said, almost all men without a doubt prefer women of lower n.

It is jsut that feminists consider any and every thing they disagee on as hate.

meangingersnap · 2023-10-05T18:27:58+00:00

Sorry but someone using your body does not mean they like you. Do men in jail “like” fuckboys (in the original sense of the word)? No, they view them as a convenient object to nut in. You can’t like someone while devaluing their humanity.

DreaminInChocolate · 2023-10-05T17:20:24+00:00

There is a manosphere idea that women don't like less attractive men. Women do like those less attractive men, just not for casual sex or dating for fun, and to be fair most of those men also probably don't want casual sex or fun either.

The problem is when these men want to be treated as a thing they are not, just as women that sleep around and want to be treated as virgins. Both are despised for their for their lack of self awareness when it comes to perceptions by the other gender.

Outside of the context of dating for fun and hook ups, less attractive men are well appreciated as common goods, social entertainers, and provide women a stable financial life. They are not hated.

Feel free to lose your shit and call that hate when it's applied to men.

InjectAdrenochrome · 2023-10-05T16:54:32+00:00

A lot of guys on here seem to hate them. As in they won't even bother entertaining them for a casual hookup. There's a lot of cognitive dissonance around promiscuity these days, I really can't keep up with it. So I've decided to stop caring.

Icy_Ordinary2025 · 2023-10-05T17:02:40+00:00

I'm a "promiscuous" woman who loves being in relationships.

It's weird how often y'all say we aren't great for relationships or wife material. All the hoes I know are now housewives.

There is a feminist idea that men don't like "sexually free" women

Nah, it's more so all the name calling and saying that women who have sex while single are somehow incapable of having a relationship.

96tillinfinity_ · 2023-10-05T16:37:12+00:00

Men love promiscuous women. I dont know why women think they dont

Promiscuous women keep men sexually satisfied so they do not burn down societies

Aggravating-Donut269 · 2023-10-05T18:33:10+00:00

Facts. Their giving is much appreciated. Love that swirl game on an experienced woman.

Implentofhell · 2023-10-05T18:46:28+00:00

You sure about that

TomKikkert · 2023-10-05T22:03:47+00:00

Another great example of how out of touch feminism is.

If you consider Sex and the City, there are 4 main characters, all stereotypes of women, but created so that women could identify with one of them.

Samantha is favorite with probably 30 to 40% of men, Miranda, the feminist Ice Queen is about 10%. Trad wife Charlotte about 30% and ditzy dreamer Carrie about 20 to 25%.

TammyMeatToy · 2023-10-06T03:30:12+00:00

Men do like those sexually generous women

This is a hilarious sentence to say.

DopeAFjknotreally · 2023-10-06T05:00:31+00:00

I’m a dude and idgaf about her body coint

Professional-Dog-265 · 2023-10-06T07:27:47+00:00

I think the real irony of being a "promiscuous" woman is the fact that why men benefit from it, they can not wait to abuse you for it. Slut. Whore. Skank. Etc.

So the majority of women even if they would like to be more sexual active, they won't because of the negative repercussions.

It's like they don't do the math.

If men want to have more sex without ties, maybe don't act like a total dick to women wanting to do the same.

It's like the fact they've had sex isn't enough, they need to give themselves an ego boost and make the woman some sort of crazed dick hungry savage completely forgetting that men seem to be able to think about very little than pussy.

Then you all cry about not having enough sex like this kind of behaviour has nothing to do with it.

Saitama1993 · 2023-10-06T08:43:07+00:00

Promiscuous women are great fuck buddies, but they shouldn't meet your parents

asdf333aza · 2023-10-06T10:45:39+00:00

Agreed.

Dudes enjoy SLEEPING with promiscuous chicks. If you ask a guy, would they bang their favorite pstar if given the chance? Most would say yes. However, men don't want to DATE or marry promises chicks. Ask those same guys to marry those pstars and bring them home to their families, and those same guys would look at you like you're crazy.

A guy wanting to fuck you isn't the same as a guy wanting to date you. Maybe as a younger guy, you can confuse the two, but most guys around college age (early 20s) have already developed that discernment. Women, on the other hand, often equate the two as the same and think guys wanting to bang you = relationship market value. And they're vastly different to men who compartmentalize things includes women and relationships.

lovestocomment · 2023-10-06T16:18:04+00:00

True, men get to practice on those women, so when men want to settle down with non promiscuous women. They have a ton of experience.

SaintVersace · 2023-10-06T19:30:00+00:00

i mean sure men don't "hate" them. we dont find them attractive

Safinated · 2023-10-05T18:07:24+00:00

There’s a reason “sex worker” and all its synonyms and slang terms are not compliments but insults

And that there is a Madonna/Whore or Hoe/Housewife or Streets/Sheets double standard of treatment

TSquaredRecovers · 2023-10-05T18:41:59+00:00

I don’t have a huge body count, but I’ve definitely had a few casual counters and FWB situations. Most of the men I was with in that capacity wanted actual relationships with me, and some of them turned into relationships. There are plenty of men who don’t separate women into two different categories like you guys do here.

Toxic_LigmaMale · 2023-10-05T22:31:00+00:00

That’s a hot take I can agree with. I think the problem is when women decide to spend their best years hoeing around, then wanna settle down with their best years behind them.

MidoriEgg · 2023-10-05T17:10:02+00:00

Men aren’t a hive mind, you may not hate women just for being promiscuous, but I assure you, many men and even other women do.

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2023-10-05T20:24:10+00:00

"sexually generous" lol male solipsism

raldabos · 2023-10-05T20:52:50+00:00

My grandfather used to say: "There are two types of women, the ones that are fun and the ones that are serious, both deserve your respect".

Still think about it to this day. Very few men dislike prostitutes, the hate comes from other women.

GridReXX · 2023-10-05T21:46:45+00:00

Until you’ve been minding your business and been angrily called a slut by a dude who’s mad he can’t fuck you…

So Imma have to say nah. There’s some bitterness that manifests in a hateful way.

Also from a logistical analysis pov, can men help me understand how if they want to liberally fuck women in an uncommitted fashion, but they don’t believe those women are worthy of commitment… they do realize they’re reducing the amount of women who are then “worthy of commitment”…

The math isn’t mathing.

Cuz it seems like many men’s ideal world is fuck around with a variety of women and then settle down with his own ingenue virgin. Mathematically, this would be impossible for every man because there wouldn’t be enough virgins…

Unless every man is planning to get married at 40 to a 16 year old virgin female lmao. I guess.

sweetbrown89 · 2023-10-05T22:26:31+00:00

Men want to have casual sex

But they don’t want relationships with the women they have casual sex with

And then they demand women with low N-counts and attractive looks

And they get really vocally angry that women with low N-counts and attractive looks don’t want them for relationships

It’s just a lot of men not happy that they can’t have their cake and eat it, too

januaryphilosopher · 2023-10-05T17:12:00+00:00

So they like to discard them. Sounds like dislike to me. "Oh no it's fine Aunt Bertha, I love this dress you gave me, I just don't want to keep it!" (And I don't get your point about dishonesty at all. You haven't made any link between dishonesty and promiscuity.)

Wolvengirla88 · 2023-10-05T19:40:10+00:00

First of all, men absolutely do hate us. They feel completely entitled to sleep with us, and they lash out at us if we say no or set any boundaries whatsoever. Second, there is still a giant double standard where men who have multiple partners or are in open relationships look down on me for hooking up with other men ever. If you cannot handle the idea that women have sex outside of relationships, you are not mature enough to treat your partner equitably.

KamuiObito · 2023-10-05T19:10:32+00:00

Nah..im friends with one..shoutout her..i just wouldnt cuff one or take her seriously..cuz women dont care..and think men are like emotionless..and womem are naturally maniplative she has a wanted vagina..she can make lifelong friendships end.. just do the math..your setting yourself up for failure on her whim

Ok_Smile_60 · 2023-10-05T19:42:38+00:00

I’ll just say I’ve not met a women yet honest about her sexual past.

There’s a reason for that, women understand and it well, and all the whining you on the subject is disingenuous

zoxzoxzo · 2023-10-05T19:57:41+00:00

Men do like those sexually generous women, just not for relationships

In my experience this is spot on. Me and most of my male friends I know would not consider a highly promiscuous woman as a candidate for a serious long-term commitment, for obvious reasons. Apart from that, being friends with them and casually hooking up are completely fine

Dynamix86 · 2023-10-05T21:16:13+00:00

You’re wrong. I hate promiscuous women. I think it’s the biggest problem that humanity has to face with at the moment

Eastern-Action1384 · 2023-10-05T22:03:27+00:00

No, men hate promiscuous women. Because no men wanna see his mom or sister or a girl he loves passed around from one guy to another. Only sick men are attracted to such a behavior.

Rainbowdark96 · 2023-10-06T00:45:36+00:00

Why do you think men don't hate them? Just because they want to have sex with them? Do you realize that men are mostly capable of having sex even with people they literally hate?

EatYourFamilyAgain · 2023-10-06T01:50:51+00:00

That is an accurate way of putting it. Men see them as women they would sleep with, but not have a commited relationship with or introduce them to their friends and family.

The reason is we are judged for it. If I as a man intorduce a woman whose social media and lifestyle clearly indicate she has slept with everyone, it reflects badly on me. People will look down on me for dating someone who engages in behavior that is held in low esteem.

EatYourFamilyAgain · 2023-10-06T02:04:53+00:00

Hating and not wanting anything to do with are 2 different things.

Muscletov · 2023-10-06T13:15:14+00:00

Women however love promiscious (or rather, potentially promiscious) men and want to force that belief on men too.

CommercialBeing2069 · 2023-10-10T02:57:55+00:00

They set the stage for us clean vanilla women to show sex pictures when we have dignity. When in actuality we are the ones that are the most resented.

Men cheat on us clean vanilla women the most. They want a Madonna at home, but a slut to cheat with.

Secondly, men like to pump and dump vanilla women. Why ? because they don’t feel worthy of us yet they like to know they got us to have sex with them.

They like the challenge but not the commitment. The only reason they don’t want the commitment because it’s too much “ work “.

Because the apathy epidemic has kicked in, they’d rather just feed the ego with numbers as opposed to something authentic.

It’s blatantly become so pathetic it’s sad. Now women are behaving like men in the field so they can have sex. Also, needing ego inflated.

So those easy women that you speak of, would want commitment, but to avoid feeling used, they just allow themselves to be pumped and dumped.

Antoniomarini · 2023-12-27T04:36:16+00:00

I don’t have anything against them, I just don’t want them. And there is many like me btw

UncleRedrick · 2024-02-04T01:52:25+00:00

Nah, we definitely don’t like sluts. Idk where you’re getting your opinion from

obviousredflag · 2023-10-05T18:51:26+00:00

Do you have any studies or data to support you claims? Otherwise, i will just say: it's a tiny minority of men who are too insecure and/or have so traditional values regarding sex, that they care about a woman's sexual past when deciding if they want to see her as relationship material.

Whatever your idea of "sexually free" is, with regards to that being a problem for men in relationships, it is not the idea of most men.

shadowofdoubt13 · 2023-10-05T21:53:09+00:00

By that logic, every stripper would be single and alone. Bro. Strippers get proposed to by rich guys more than any other demographic of women. That’s pure utter bullshit. You don’t live in the real world

NSGameDeveloper · 2023-10-05T22:02:31+00:00

Women who fuck with more men should be celebrated.

claratheresa · 2023-10-05T23:42:49+00:00

99% of men want to positions themselves as “high value men” and only 1% are. If the 99% want to fantasize that they can have all these preferences and still ever get laid, more power to them. High value women do not need to care.

CountMandrake · 2023-10-06T03:11:12+00:00

Esther Vilar wrote on his book that during the XIX century, after getting tired of asking the authorities to wipe out brothels (because men in the town hall were visiting brothels too, like, that wasn't going to happen) french women invented the myth of the sex traffic and this went mainstream in the journals that were bought in every working class house (by the wives who used the news to scandalize themselves).

The journalists saw those news about sex traffic sold newspappers and they started writting a lot about it, and that's how the press convinced french authorities to close brothels.

Not that brothels stopped existing anyways but were more "exclusive" from then on, only reserved for the political and aristocratic class.

But yeah, according to Ester Vilar that's how the sex trafficking myth was born.

esdebah · 2023-10-05T23:57:53+00:00

Men like those women for relationships. Little shitty boys don't.

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harmonica2 · 2023-10-05T21:11:35+00:00

Well the argument here frequently is that women who are promiscuous have trouble committing in a relationship. But they also say on here that women have much of a higher oxytocin release during sex which causes them to get attached to the guy more.

But if a woman catches feelings more from sex wouldn't that make her more likely to commit?

il_nascosto · 2023-10-06T00:16:49+00:00

Exactly. I don't hate these sluts... they've given me much joy over the years!

BrandContrast1997 · 2023-10-06T00:30:18+00:00

I dont hate promiscious women as they are hardwired to do so under some degree. What most men are however, is frustrated, as women are also hardwired to be sexually picky. In fact, do to artifical variables like no other in history, makes them super picky and hypergamous. You literally see their isolated behavior on overdrive like being stimmed out on caffeine. It a trip!

dbz__f · 2023-10-06T06:47:33+00:00

I don’t hate anyone but there’s only one woman in the universe who I want to marry

Shoddy-Donut-9339 · 2023-10-06T08:04:20+00:00

The body count obsessed boys apparently don’t like promiscuous women.

Men like sex. Promiscuous women means more sex for men.

I think men are divided on promiscuous women.

I think promiscuous women like men more than non promiscuous women do. I like promiscuous women.

Throwwaway4970 · 2023-10-06T08:47:17+00:00

It's not I hate them, it's that I want a woman that has good impulse control or criteria in which men she interacts sexually.

Icy-Pin5030 · 2023-10-06T09:02:48+00:00

Ill be perfectly honest i spent the majority of my adult life sleeping with and dating these kind of women, and a major part of me resented them big time.

Mainly for how easily they could get validation and seemingly just fuck their way through life despite not having any charm, wit, intelligence, or substance whatsoever.

Whereas i knew men who had a plethora of great characteristics and couldnt get laid. It just didnt seem fair to me even when i was 18-19 years old i knew there was something fucked up about the modern dating market

mummydontknow · 2023-10-06T11:53:30+00:00

Would you be okay with your daughter turning out promiscuous?

Maybe they don't hate the promiscuous woman, but for a lot of men, raising a promiscuous daughter is equivalent to failing.

Soloandthewookiee · 2023-10-06T13:52:49+00:00

The problem is when women have double personalities and claim to be a thing they are not, just as men who fuck others behind their wives.

How is a promiscuous woman similar to a man cheating on his wife?

Willow-girl · 2023-10-06T13:58:02+00:00

Men do like those sexually generous women, just not for relationships,

That has not been my experience at all ...

Suspicious-Bed-2717 · 2023-10-06T15:10:34+00:00

"Sluts" don't exist anymore sadly. There was a time in the 80s,90s, and early 2000s when you had women who would bang literally anyone. Now a days if a woman is promiscuous its only for the top 10% of men.

Inevitable-Truth-370 · 2023-10-06T17:48:20+00:00

This is exactly why you see men cheat on their “good girl” wives or girl friends with “sluts”. It’s wicked honestly

theprettyocean · 2023-10-06T18:36:23+00:00

Men don't care lol, I've seen a ton of promiscuous women get "chosen". They're probably just lying to the guy.

I have a friend who's nice but she pretends to not be pro hookup culture even though the way she got her current bf was by hooking up with him and aggressively offering sex/pursuing him. And I'm pretty sure she hooked up a fair bit in high school and university. I'm guessing she's lying to her current bf. But he seems to be fine with it so. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Certain_Form_3349 · 2023-10-07T01:10:36+00:00

I actually love “promiscuous” women aka sexually experienced. They know what they want. I’ve tried dating the “good” inexperienced and the sex is so boring and they also secretly wish they explored more and don’t actually know what they like.

The fact that someone who’s actually had good sex can still say I’m the best sex is worth so much more. Some shy girl is gonna fold as soon as she gets attention from someone else.

orangecloverbud · 2023-10-07T05:33:21+00:00

Men hate promicuous women when they are not able to insert themselves into said promicuous woman. Its just men on sour grape flavoured copium.

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