Unlike most other men in ppd, I do acknowledge that lots of average men are still finding dates in this day and age. What the women/bluepillers of ppd don't see is that you need to be extremely lucky to manage a girlfriend in your 20s now, if you are an average man.

Let me start with my own experience. I’m 25, and I’ve had exactly one relationship in my entire life, which lasted for 3 years. Let me rephrase that - I only received positive romantic attention from one woman in my entire life. She was a 7/10 (I consider myself a 5/10). We met online.

Here’s the kicker: I didn’t stand out to her in any way. She literally told me that she replied to me because, by accident, she tapped on my message. And out of sheer politeness, she didn’t want to leave me on "read," so we started talking. That’s literally how I got any attention. Pure luck. I wasn't the "best" message she received, not by a long shot. I wasn’t the most interesting, or the most charming. I didn't have proper pictures in my profile. I was just in the right place at the right time.

Now, this isn’t an isolated experience. Most of my friends who are below average looking or just average in general—guys who are far from being some kind of "chad"—have had similar experiences. One of my close friends is very average looking, and he ended up dating a girl who was assigned to work with him for a university project. She was "forced" to interact with him because of the project, and it eventually turned into a relationship. Again, if he had approached her in any other situation, there's no chance she would have given him the time of day.

This is the issue I’m seeing in modern dating for average guys: it’s not about developing the best game or getting the "perfect" opening line—often, it’s about being in the right place at the right time, catching someone in a vulnerable or lonely moment, or just getting lucky with the way your message is read.

Now, I’m not saying there’s no hope for average men, but I’m saying it's much harder than people who aren’t in our shoes realize. And I think a lot of the conversations here can gloss over the sheer randomness and luck involved in dating. If you're an average guy trying to find a partner, you're not just competing against other men, but against an overwhelming amount of choice and attention that women have. It’s less about "improving yourself" and more about sheer chance.