"A high value man won't wait 3 months for sex"

TheOGJammies · 2021-03-03T20:17:33+00:00

Reflairing this "sex advice scammer" since this idiot fancies himself a "dating coach".

souredskittles · 2021-03-03T00:32:55+00:00

I hate when they misuse fds terms. An alpha redpill guy would absolutely be a Negative Value Male in our book.

I see it all over Reddit too. They use the word HVM and then go on to describe men with Low to No Value. 🙄

AyemHerself · 2021-03-03T00:33:00+00:00

In this video he also says that if you wait 3 months to have sex with a man you're implying that "your sex is great enough" When in reality, we're using those 3 months to do background checks, search your fullname, your phone number, check for red flags and vet like our life depends on it. (Because it does) I see letting someone inside my vagina the same as letting someone inside of my house. Would you rather let a mysterious homeless man into your house, or a neighbor you've grown up with? Men dont understand this.

RottenOliveTree · 2021-03-03T01:10:05+00:00

The way that he's so aggressively "correcting" her and telling her that her thinking is wrong/bad, is honestly a bright red flag. He has zero respect and zero consideration... He's even being borderline condescending. If a man is this passionate about denying my opinion and disregarding it as "stupid", I'm out.

You can also tell he considers himself a HVM and speaks as if he's giving us a HVM perspective, while simultaneously proving to all of us he's the opposite, lol. What is the saying again? Good people don't have to say they're good people or whatever.
He sounds like he just has the average LVM/ZVM mindset that women should put out quickly, that it's somehow fair to expect this of women and that waiting for measly 3 months is like dangling a treat in front of a poor, hungry dog..? And he is now trying to convince women that "this is normal, you can't expect otherwise from men, and expecting otherwise will only drive the gOoD HV gUyS away" so that women still bend to his will and to his LV impatience and lust.

As others have mentioned... he is appropriating the term HVM. The men he's speaking on behalf of, are the sex-fixated "alphas" who see women as lesser in many ways and see them as utility.

AyemHerself · 2021-03-03T01:08:04+00:00

Like I'm going to take sex advice from someone with a wrinkled shirt and a Deadpool bust who can only bring himself to repeat the same two sentences.

It's also so obvious that men's definition of HVM is different from ours. They think all a man has to do is collect a paycheck. You apparently don't even need to be attractive or well-groomed.

glendoraza · 2021-03-03T00:32:39+00:00

Why is he begging if she already said she’s waiting?

Already he’s not high value then.

Delaying what heartbreak? If he’s gonna break your heart, then he’s not it

donttextme_k · 2021-03-03T00:42:07+00:00

If you can’t wait 3 months for sex then you have something else to worry about...🤢,

Unfit_Needleworker · 2021-03-03T02:11:20+00:00

He’s gross AF. I couldn’t even listen to the whole thing 🤮

jem1173 · 2021-03-03T02:20:45+00:00

Let’s break this down real quick.

He says, “it’s arrogant and egotistical to think that your sex is so valuable that you think he’s just going to wait around and beg for it.”

Here’s what he’s missing: it’s not my sex that’s “so valuable” it’s me.

Yes, me. A human being. I have value.

And yes, an HVM will wait if there’s a connection. You don’t find that every day and he knows that.

He won’t be “waiting around and begging” for sex as if he’s some empty-brained fool with nothing better to think about. An HVM has a full life with plenty going on to occupy him—one of those activities being, using the time to get to know me.

Let’s just chalk this video up to, tell me you’re an LVM without actually telling me you’re an LVM.

nothing998 · 2021-03-03T00:27:23+00:00

A man who values you for more than being a wet hole would wouldn't care how long he had to "wait".

All this shows is a male appropriating FDS/radfem terms like "high value man" in order to gaslight women in the early stages of leveling up. The actual type of man he's referring to in this video is what the incels call "alpha males".

Platipus6 · 2021-03-03T01:07:06+00:00

Dating advice for women from men:

Lower your standards - so ugly/short/broke/socially inept males can get laid

Give the 'nice guy' a chance - so ugly/short/broke/socially inept males can get laid

Don't wait 3 months - so ugly/short/broke/socially inept males can get laid faster and you don't find the horrifying shit on a background check, or find his exes on social media and ask them what up.

Whyyyyyy would we listen to men?

DifferentBar6 · 2021-03-03T01:13:50+00:00

If he can't wait 3 months, he's not HV to me and I don't want him

gigi_chi · 2021-03-03T01:19:27+00:00

amazing that he has the audacity to tell us how much time it should take us to allow a man to enter our body 😂

File-Own · 2021-03-03T03:15:58+00:00

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KnowledgeOk5995 · 2021-03-03T01:05:55+00:00

This dude has a very punchable face

greenbeanbird · 2021-03-03T01:07:30+00:00

He acts like he's telling us this aMAzInG piece of advice when the type of man who immediately wants/begs for sex is one we'll happily let go of! If they want sex right from the start, they're telling on themselves.

spicyspa · 2021-03-03T02:47:50+00:00

It's not about the man waiting, but the vetting. If he's not patient enough he's simply not worth it. They're trying to make us desperate and we should not be.

LilithWon · 2021-03-03T03:06:45+00:00

The whole tone of this video is basically "no, for the love of god don't make me wait 3 months, pweaaaase, ME WANTY SEXYTIME NOW!"

Phoenix__Rising2018 · 2021-03-03T02:48:53+00:00

Meanwhile my two best ever lovers, not even boyfriends, lovers, waited almost three months and over 6 months respectively. By their own choice. Pursued me, courted me and talked and talked and talked to me. They wooed me. Why would I ever accept less from the boyfriend?

Wildestrose1988 · 2021-03-03T01:29:25+00:00

Who's telling them to beg for sex??

Merryprankstress · 2021-03-03T01:53:49+00:00

LOL like this guy knows what high value is. He's Australian (Likely to be misogynistic), has a deadpool bust, a lion poster, his beard is a different color than his other hair, and he has the distant and vacant look of someone with zero personality or charisma but all the audacity.

File-Own · 2021-03-03T05:57:22+00:00

He’s so THREATENED

Dexaroo5716 · 2021-03-03T06:28:02+00:00

This scrote is drying out vaginas left and right with his pedantic, inane manbabble.

randomgirl34861 · 2021-03-03T08:53:36+00:00

I’m sorry but I’m so mad that THEY THINK WE ARE WITHHOLDING SEX AS A “GAME”.

WE 👏ARE 👏NOT 👏 HAVING 👏 SEX 👏BECAUSE 👏 WE👏 ARE 👏NOT👏COMFORTABLE!

It’s not a game. It’s our actual lives at risk. It takes me several months to be comfortable enough with a man to put myself in a position as vulnerable as sex. I need to be very sure of a man’s character before I get in bed because you never know what could happen. He could have a “kink” he pulls out of no where and I could end up strangled, dead and with no justice. Most likely, my death would be ruled as an accident because there’s no way to tell if I “consented” to the bReAtH pLaYy. They’d probably use irrelevant facts of my life against me (like the fact that I’ve worked a restaurant where servers dress in sexy, form fitting outfits) to “prove” I “consented” to something like that.

Also, sex is deeply spiritual. I am not cheap shopping-mall sesame chicken, so you don’t get to “try me” before deciding if you want me. It’s a deep connection that I don’t want with just anyone, because it stirs up powerful emotions- which aren’t good for relationships that aren’t solid and strong...(And what relationship is solid and strong before 3 months?) Guys love to complain that women aren’t emotionally stable. As a woman, one of the best things for my emotional well-being has been never partaking in casual sex.

I can’t believe people actually listen to this guy...he thinks he’s a fucking coach??? 🥴🥴🤡 Thinking women protecting their physical safety and emotional well-being is a “game” shows you lack very basic empathy and emotional intelligence. He clearly sees women as “prizes” and not people.

ThrowawayKITTY777 · 2021-03-03T01:25:09+00:00

A real HVM will wait however long it takes until you're comfortable and ready.

Pressuring someone to cross a boundary is rude and awful behavior.

Every person in this world has the right to set their boundaries at a level where they feel safe and comfortable. Every human gets to say what they will and will not do with their own body.

3 months.... 6 months....a year... not til marriage....

You do you... only YOU get to say when you're ready for sex and anyone who gives you crap for that oughtta be slapped. Like this guy... and the previous commenter was so right he DOES have a punchable face 😹

LevellingUpTime · 2021-03-03T01:42:36+00:00

A HVM would not manipulate a woman into sex before she's ready with this kind of BS

A HVM would not beg for sex from a woman, he would leave if they weren't compatible like this rather than shift blame to the woman's higher standards

A HVM would be a man of patience rather than quick sexual gratification, and he would be looking at the future benefits of waiting a few months - which is nothing compared to the rest of his life

A LVM won't wait 3 months for sex. A LVM thinks a woman is arrogant for waiting to have sex, one of the most intimate things you can do with another person, and something that carries many risks. A LVM compares sex to a cat with a string.

Besides, with his logic, if this LVM says "now what?" after the cat gets the string (ie. the woman sleeps with him) then it should reason that women wait even longer than 3 months. Because then he won't be saying "now what", he'll have an entire relationship with the woman, they love each other, and sex just became the cherry on top

CriminalQueen03 · 2021-03-03T04:03:20+00:00

Some scrote lying through his teeth for a minute straight, what else is new

Throwawayrightaway28 · 2021-03-03T02:45:13+00:00

...I was going to unpack this, but that Deadpool statue he’s sitting under tells the whole story. Men as a species are just schizophrenic. Some of them are saying don’t give it up too soon because then the guy is not going to respect you, which is actually the truth.Then you have others lying through their teeth about how waiting won’t protect you. When has having sex quickly got any women a good outcome? They need to get together and get their lies straight.

randowordgenerator · 2021-03-03T03:17:52+00:00

Oh look a lion painting. In case you missed the manly man wearing a too-small shirt. Who isn't down for that

eta: he is wearing the shirt of a man who is gone.

TheOGJammies · 2021-03-03T03:39:59+00:00

Men who think like this want mommy mcbangmaids, not relationships with women. They can’t delay the instant gratification because they have no interest in knowing individual women as people, they’re looking to fill a personal void with a female service bot 5000.

And why would a HVW put out when she doesn’t know you? Why would a HVW let herself be blackmailed into sex because of FOMO?

Makes no sense.

randomgirlimok · 2021-03-03T03:32:48+00:00

He thinks 3 months is long term? This is just an agenda he is pushing to get women to have sex quick. It does work- for us. If a guy won’t wait, I don’t want him bc he clearly only wants me for sex.

Edit- is this guy the mod of /dating?? I just got a message I’ve been banned from that sub when I’ve never even posted in it/looked at it, nor am I even interested in dating right now (and if I was I would never in a million years go on that sub for any “advice”) Lol butt hurt and definitely an agenda.

EffectiveHoneydew422 · 2021-03-03T01:57:40+00:00

😂 LOL OMG this C*nt thinks HE is high value Sheesh!! Also he is a PRIMO example of pseudo- intellectual- his demeanour and tone is trying to sound like he has the high ground and giving constructive advice but he is literally calling her "fucking stupid" for thinking she can wait 3 months! for sex?! this is side splitting stuff - hE ValuEs HiGH Sex HiGHlY oooh soo HigH ValUE! what a complete and utter wanker.

Simpella · 2021-03-03T09:44:19+00:00

Did he just call 3 months long term??? Lol I think I've heard enough from this guy

Plastic_Fudge_5000 · 2021-03-03T07:06:30+00:00

And how is this scrote supposed to know anything about a HVM with a lion behind him while he calls women stupid in the process of mansplaining what works and what doesn’t?

Low value men come in all accents!

Also trim your beard scrote.

Rememberthekant · 2021-03-03T03:03:43+00:00

This guy is full of ... Lol! I know a LOT (if not most) of men from my culture who will wait for marriage . This is how it is. He can’t wait 3 months ? Oh honey try years. You clearly are not the type of man we are looking for but it is cute YOU THOUGHt.

ConfusedMegladon · 2021-03-03T08:12:17+00:00

How would he know what a HVM would do?

ddamaya · 2021-03-03T07:49:02+00:00

“Stop playing games and let us have sex with you, possibly impregnate you, give you a high risk of catching an STD, UTI or yeast infection.” FOOH

tiavarga · 2021-03-03T08:06:27+00:00

He needs to get his messaging straight. He said if a man wants to leave, he’ll leave—even after sex. We know that. That’s why we vet!

CoolSaucy · 2021-03-03T04:06:52+00:00

A HVM would respect your boundaries and not push for sex so....

Tigerchestnut13 · 2021-03-03T04:21:01+00:00

This guy has a toy in his room. C’mon

Awkward-Plane-6617 · 2021-03-03T07:12:14+00:00

Go fuck yourself dude.

SeaNegotiation8 · 2021-03-03T11:00:58+00:00

Lol at men like this.

They make sure to advertise that they don’t value women for anything other than pussy, then they try to pretend that our pussies don’t have value. It’s literally the ONLY thing they value!

Only men could be this fucking dumb. They value pussy more than anything else in the world. They’re consider their lives worthless without it, and they become bitter and depressed, often even suicidal when they can’t get laid. Want proof? Just peruse any incel sub.

Male lurkers: y’all seriously need to get your sour-grapes frustration under control. You have no one to blame but yourselves.

dembar126 · 2021-03-03T02:35:35+00:00

The same men who tell you it's unreasonable to make them wait for sex when you're looking for committed relationships, will then turn around and say it's your fault if you get pumped and dumped because "you shouldn't have been easy". Lol.

2021-03-03T02:36:29+00:00

“Bad sex object. Lower yourself like a good piece of furniture. Stop expecting us to have respect for you. We have none.”

catgirlmoonqueen · 2021-03-03T07:49:20+00:00

Someone’s... triggered lmao

StarfishSabbatical · 2021-03-03T13:37:27+00:00

That's a pretty big blood-red flag you're waving there, fella. Getting verbally aggressive with a woman you don't even know over her choice not to have casual sex? Oof, how embarrassing for you.

These guys really out here acting like dating is about women debasing themselves however random men say in hopes of getting picked to get debased long-term. Pass.

fds_account57 · 2021-03-03T14:10:07+00:00

Of course he’s going to disagree with this. Too bad for him. Make them wait. Three months isn’t long enough. If we’re not married he isn’t getting any. I know that’s a bit extreme by FDS standards but BOY is it an amazing vetting tool.

thinktwiceorelse · 2021-03-03T14:28:53+00:00

They act like 3 months is 350 years without sex. It only shows that they hate our presence so much, that they wouldn't even spend 3 months getting to know us. Don't they see they're telling on themselves? Of course we aren't interested, why we would be interested in a person who hates us?

MagnfiqueMaleficent · 2021-03-03T05:24:03+00:00

Looky, looky! Here we see yet another self-described dating “guru” who’s advising losers on how to get to get laid when he doesn’t know shit about women or respect them. 🤡🤡🤡

They are thirsty for attention and they desperately need to be seen as successful with women by other men. Sad.

kalina95 · 2021-03-03T08:56:44+00:00

Oh yes. Like when women in marriages ask men to change, do household chores, don't cheat, bla bla etc., and WAIT for the man to change, is that also dangling a string? Is that also begging? Is that also egotistical? Is that also thinking that A WOMAN'S time is way too high valued compared to what you want? No? Thought so. Dumbass.

He's so fucking stupid. What audacity does he have to call Ms. Janine here stupid. Asshole.

2021-03-03T10:58:36+00:00

Lmao. Total myth. I’ve written about this before. Men will totally wait however long you want for sex if they truly want you. I have personally had it happen many, many times because I never have sex before I am absolutely ready.

naps-seductively · 2021-03-03T02:01:51+00:00

So he’s saying it would be a disappointment to engage with men, no matter how long you wait to get intimate? Alright then.

2021-03-03T14:29:43+00:00

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Hostileovaries · 2021-03-03T02:09:42+00:00

The huge lion photo told me all I needed to know. Lions do jack shit all day while the lionesses are the main hunters for food.

miss_peach94 · 2021-03-03T02:49:41+00:00

A decent human being will wait. The first guy I went all the way with, I made him wait 6 months.

Theboredshrimp · 2021-03-03T10:20:22+00:00

even the NEGATIVE value males here wait for a year minimum pfffffffffffff

MissMariesUnderstudy · 2021-03-03T10:30:29+00:00

Lurker here. I usually just read and upvote, but I have to say I guffawed at the Spider-Man bust and lion poster before I even played the video. He’s like a little boy who decorated his room the way he thinks a big strong man would. And that somber face and tone, delivering the flaccid facts. Dude, your peen makes the rules for you, not me.

_differentmentality_ · 2021-03-03T12:15:06+00:00

A HVM is a man who is compatible to the woman (high value means he is very valuable to her specifically). A man who wants to have sex early when she doesn’t is not a man who is high value to her, since he has no value to offer her as he doesn’t want the same thing that she does. If you can use sex as the carrot on a stick for a man and make him have to “beg for it”as he says in the video, then that means that the man you’re talking to views sex as the reward, sex is the end while the relationship is the means to get there and when he doesn’t get what he truly wants (which again is sex, not the relationship) he leaves. That’s precisely the kind of man you want to avoid.

gingerwabisabi · 2021-03-03T02:12:49+00:00

This NVM mansplainy scrote should go get him some education, read books from the 1700s where the men were writing poems to girls' HAIR. Meanwhile, in the decent and polite world, high value men who are into you will be happy just to be in your presence and having a good time together and they understand what a risk you are taking by considering sex with them and patiently let you decide.

jasaminex · 2021-03-03T07:46:19+00:00

Can't believe that all this time, I thought that dating was to see if we liked one another and had similar values and interests, and develop an emotional connection...nope - apparently we're just sex vending machines where men are putting in their niceness coins.

Jiou112 · 2021-03-03T02:27:12+00:00

High value men don't beg for sex like a dog...Unless he is fluffy with a tail, high value men aren't "dogs".

favoritesound · 2021-03-03T14:58:28+00:00

Oh so when you give a cat a string immediately it’s somehow a happier cat?

Oh so if heartbreak was what you had in store women should just give it up on the first date cuz heartbreak is inevitable?

Does this guy realize how little sense his arguments make?

violetbluegreenred · 2021-03-03T16:36:56+00:00

Men who make this argument about “you’re just trying to play hard to get bla bla bla” come off very predatory to me. Has it ever occurred to them that someone you’ve seen about once a week for less than 3 months is practically a stranger?? Why on earth should I need to feel comfortable being intimate with a stranger? I have friends I’ve known for five or more years who have never seen me naked. Some haven’t even seen me in a swimsuit. Why should I owe my body to some rando guy if I don’t owe it to them?

Volperossa_ · 2021-03-03T17:33:16+00:00

“You’re just delaying your heartbreak” so you admit, you’re only using women for sex. If these “high value men” don’t wait 3 months for sex, then yes they put a lot of emphasis on sex, because that’s all they actually want. If a man wants YOU, then whether you have sex in the first month or third doesn’t matter. We don’t “play hard to get”. We don’t have sex with men early because we value ourselves, our safety, our sexual health, and our hearts. I’d rather be heartbroken by this supposed “high value man” dropping me because I won’t fuck him, rather than be heartbroken because he fucked me and now he doesn’t want me. For the male lurkers, having money and good looks does NOT make you high value. Most women learn that when you have good looks and money, but little respect for women and just want to fuck, there’s no actual value in that! Even if the woman is just after your money, if you make it clear through your actions that your intentions are just sex, what does she get out of that? She’s not getting marriage obviously, so why would your income or looks even matter?

pipeuptopipedown · 2021-03-03T08:05:52+00:00

I think what they might be talking about is a guy who looks "high status" on paper -- good-looking, prestigious job, etc. and not focusing so much on his behavior and his mentality, which to me are the determining factors of his "value."

K0rla · 2021-03-03T08:20:34+00:00

So boundaries are now arrogant and egotistical? What kind of disrespect is that?

pugaczalla · 2021-03-03T11:55:16+00:00

I listened to like 5 seconds and I already know everything about the guy. He’s a LVM. The lion art, the Deadpool figure, some expensive looking bag, condescending and patronising tone, that body language... He looks like he’s about to get very angry. The type of guy who’s always right and has anger management issues. He’s personally offended that some women might want to wait a few months before having sex. A normal guy doesn’t care and either accepts to wait or moves on if he’s not ok with it. An angry, entitled man makes a video like this, projects and demands women better give him sex - which proves he’s LVM/ZVM/NVM.

Yellowsunflowerlover · 2021-03-03T15:05:14+00:00

I actually had a dude wait a whole year..he was still a LVM but this dude is dumb.

FDSfollower1 · 2021-03-03T20:39:43+00:00

Why does this fool think he should be giving advice to women? Thank goodness for FDS.

greenie66 · 2021-03-04T07:16:36+00:00

They always idolize Deadpool lol

IndividualRoutine661 · 2021-03-03T13:32:00+00:00

Jakey boy seems triggered - what a snowflake ❄️

nonchalance77 · 2021-03-03T13:56:35+00:00

Ahhhhhh. Arrogant women not fucking on a time schedule. It’s hard to keep up the fake facade for THrEE wHole months! He “values” the pussy and will discard the human to get to it easily. That’s what he means.

gutsandgorey · 2021-03-03T20:16:32+00:00

Omg he's so basic. Lion pictures and super hero figurines are like the male Live Laugh Love.

Honestly_th0 · 2021-03-03T13:54:44+00:00

Easiest way to spot scrotes? Any superhero or anime paraphernalia in the background...oh, wait a minute, what is that I spy?

Oh, and the lion means he’s an alpha predator 🦁 😂

MissouriBlue · 2021-03-03T19:29:54+00:00

I’ve always been off the opinion that the LESS VISITORS Down South, the higher value the coochie... it’s the standard supply/demand dynamic.

If you don’t get between my legs quickly, then you know it’s a low traffic area. That I value it, and you’d better value it.

letsdoityesterday · 2021-03-05T13:41:59+00:00

My brother HVM waited over a year for his wife. She is a religious person and wanted to get married a virgin.

He waited for her, ask for her hand in marriage with her family, proposed, paid for the whole wedding, and helps taking care of his 2 kids cleaning, cooking, playing with his kids while being the only one working.

My friends husband also waited until marriage for same reason.

A man will wait for you. A man will care for you and your children.

flowerpower102938 · 2021-03-03T19:49:48+00:00

All I heard was "muh penis"

tatrielle · 2021-03-03T20:00:39+00:00

HOW ABOUT MEN STOP GAUGING WOMEN BASED ON HOW FAST THEY CAN GET LAID.... That's entirely the problem. Everything they do "for" us is geared for sex.

Men and women have different values in relationships. Thus, I cannot be in a relationship with a man

justforfds · 2021-03-03T21:30:55+00:00

Jannie has no idea he's alive. In his paranoia, he allowed himself to feel triggered and attempted to condescend. I hope he feels better now.

spicybookmaster · 2021-03-04T21:52:01+00:00

He sounded like he was making something up on the spot, and it doesn’t make sense and figured it out at the end that he actually doesn’t have anything legitimate to say lol.

“Change your thinking, that’s really bad.” Wow, waiting is sooo bad, like really bad. Bad advice coach James.

switchitbitch · 2021-03-05T05:31:58+00:00

His argument “that’s bad” and “change your thinking”.... ummm OK... WHY? His reasons are empty platitudes. What a dumb asshole.

oscine23 · 2021-03-05T05:54:39+00:00

Tell that to my guy who waited SIX months and is still chasing. Bloop.

Unlikely-Marzipan · 2021-03-16T11:02:16+00:00

The egos on these guys! Seriously.

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New_Article7411 · 2021-03-03T08:45:24+00:00

Men will wait years to have sex with a woman they care about. They call women "sluts" (lower value or zero value), for allowing themselves to be pushed into sex before love. They place no value on the "easy, slut, whore". We've all had male "friends" wait years for us to become single

Title	"A high value man won't wait 3 months for sex"
Author	real90slike
Upvotes	123
Comments	165
Date	March 3, 2021 12:24 AM UTC (5 years ago)
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