I... I don't even...

TDD · 2013-01-23T01:52:48+00:00

MRs are the new Nazis.

HEIL EQUALITY!

sibqm_lmvm · 2013-01-23T01:18:18+00:00

"Damn! He made a good argument, but he's from r/mensrights... If I call him a nazi, people will think he's evil and wrong! Go me!"

aleifur · 2013-01-23T01:00:02+00:00

Invoke Godwin's law and win the argument by default

Edit: taken from http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/godwins-law

"Godwin’s Law is an internet adage that is derived from one of the earliest bits of Usenet wisdoms, which goes “if you mention Adolf Hitler or Nazis within a discussion thread, you’ve automatically ended whatever discussion you were taking part in."

also this

ShitDickMcCuntFace · 2013-01-23T01:23:43+00:00

ahhhh, /u/alllie explains it. I like her post where she states that GHWB tried to have Reagan killed.

knowses · 2013-01-23T00:51:35+00:00

When they start throwing the term "Nazi" around, you might as well end the conversation. For whatever reason, extreme emotions, temporary insanity, trolling, you are not dealing with someone capable of having a rational communication with you.

Lemmiwinks0141 · 2013-01-23T02:13:07+00:00

I wouldn't give this nut any more attention they're obviously craving. There're extremists in every group I'd rather this didn't turn into a place like /r/atheism where instead of discussion all there is is posts about these people like they are the norm...

Busangod · 2013-01-23T02:28:23+00:00

Meh, so what? You talked to an idiot. It's the internet. He/she doesn't represent women, feminism or smurfs. Getting excited by this nonsense just makes us look like idiots.

Androiids · 2013-01-23T01:27:43+00:00

World class troll, or hardcore feminist? OH MAN I CAN'T TELL

_Toast · 2013-01-23T01:44:15+00:00

We're nazis now? I finished working out, my arm is too tired to heil. Sorry guys.

Everseer · 2013-01-23T07:04:27+00:00

BY DISAGREEING WITH ME YOU RAPED ME YOU HOLOCAUST DENYING 9/11 PEDOPHILE

2013-01-23T05:16:06+00:00

TIL advocating equality is kind of like being an extremist.

the_humble_saiyajin · 2013-01-23T04:03:42+00:00

Can we get uniforms?

empressalex · 2013-01-23T09:31:48+00:00

As a woman, with genuine female parts, I apologise for whatever the hell that was...

pluto_nash · 2013-01-23T13:11:48+00:00

yes,

there certainly

were no female nazi members

If curious, the first is a group of auxiliary women and officers just south of Auschwitz. The second is Gerda Steinhoff

Also, we are lucky there

are no women

in the KKK

This would be why trying to use sensationalism over logic doesn't work....

AnnArchist · 2013-01-23T03:20:29+00:00

Being smart is hard.

Drainedsoul · 2013-01-23T05:20:16+00:00

I fully support alimony

Get the fuck out.

ninjaguineapig · 2013-01-23T07:48:42+00:00

As an Orthodox Jew, I can safely say that even the first bit of what she said is horseshit.

JohnnK · 2013-01-23T05:28:19+00:00

http://www.reddit.com/r/environment/comments/171ubd/humans_are_a_plague_on_earth_sir_david/c81jvbp

http://www.reddit.com/r/worldpolitics/comments/171pma/bangladesh_popular_atheist_blogger_nearly_stabbed/c81jylh

http://www.reddit.com/r/entertainment/comments/16zhmz/monty_python_and_the_holy_sale_cleese_sells_off/c81hnec

Pretty sure she hates everyone except for radical feminists...

Flamewall26 · 2013-01-23T00:58:29+00:00

We don't care what one person on the internet says. Pettiness like this makes the MRA movement look bad.

electriophile · 2013-01-23T05:56:37+00:00

Splitting current assets makes sense, or at least splitting assets gained during the course of the marriage. Forfeiting a large chunk of all future assets for the rest of your life to someone you no longer have anything to do with does not make sense.

HoundDogs · 2013-01-23T06:08:44+00:00

They have been conditioned to respond this way. They have been convinced that MRA's are hate groups. Full stop. Many Christians use the same tactic when you attempt to have a discussion with them about their faith. "Well you're an atheist, so you don't even deserve the pleasure of hearing my arguments." It's a defense mechanism. The thought of having to change your entire outlook on the world is not only painful, but for many of them, impossible.

The longer I do this the more certain I become that you are not just questioning and/or trying to change the belief of one person. You aren't just challenging them, you are challenging everything anyone they respect has ever told them. If you dig deeper, the defiance even goes into their childhood.

There is a very interesting YouTube series called "The Bomb In the Brain" on belief, and how it comes to be, that is tied into this very subject.

Doctor_Loggins · 2013-01-23T03:14:04+00:00

we are doing shameful things.. when will we ever man up?

Dougith · 2013-01-23T04:43:10+00:00

Was she just sexist towards herself; he just said that sometimes people take from those who make the money to support that lifestyle. This woman decided that means of course only woman don't work... what a hypocrite.

rptwinkie · 2013-01-23T14:26:41+00:00

I know I'm a woman but I'd really like to comment on this. My husband and his ex wife were not married long enough to get alimony, but the only way she would agree to divorce him is if he took the house (AKA the forclosure/bad credit since he moved to a new state for work) AND if he paid for "therapy sessions" for her. He was completely apaulled. She cheated on him with someone, and they didn't have a great relationship anyway (young marriage), and he thought it would be a civilized split. We had met when he was separated, and i seriously felt like he was being trampled on for no good reason other than she was a psudo-feminist (who didnt work and used his money to buy things, refused to cook/clean/do laundry because that' what 'the man designated women to do').

I think alimony is stupid. I understand child support, but unless you are without the means to get a good job you shouldn't need to bleed someone else dry because you two aren't compatible for one reason or another.

andcunning · 2013-01-23T15:23:48+00:00

I had no clue /r/againstmensrights/ even existed. It's stuff like that that makes me hate what Western culture has come to. If there was a /r/againstwomensrights it'd make national news, but when men are bashed for trying to balance the scales of equality, we're fought, and everyone sees it as being OK.

Crimson_D82 · 2013-01-23T02:47:04+00:00

try this on for size.

edit: TL;DR

I provide proof of what I am saying, they provided none and I was still downvoted to hell. It even came from nowhere. It was doing well at 5 then out of no where crashed to -9. It's like someone raised a secret alarm and they crawled out of the woodwork.

UnoriginalMike · 2013-01-23T03:34:30+00:00

I must have missed the part where Jesus outlawed divorce.

Also, not sure how MRM is like the nazi movement. Insert nazi joke here. They're a little too easy to be worth it.

Lohengren · 2013-01-23T04:17:02+00:00

I am constantly astounded at the absolute hatred these people display

Mr5306 · 2013-01-23T08:55:24+00:00

The sad and quite serious part, is that by understating the terrible actions of the Nazis and comparing them to the MRAs, makes the actions of Nazis look "less bad" and not the other way around. They are doing more damage than they realize.

And, if you keep classifying one group as Nazis, and keep treating them as Nazis, they will start acting more like Nazis, so be careful.

Windex007 · 2013-01-23T08:57:13+00:00

Don't become jaded. your approach was flawless. your execution was flawless. don't get caught up in the circlejerk. this isn't a war. I can't stress enough how perfectly you handled that.

rottingchrist · 2013-01-23T03:02:05+00:00

That poster is always consistently an idiot. No point wasting time on them.

Thepimpandthepriest · 2013-01-23T03:54:19+00:00

Someone is a clamhurt legbeard...

seriesoftubesguy · 2013-01-23T04:47:36+00:00

Godwin.

MRs are the new nazis

Not even touching on how completely wrong that is, saying "x is literally hitler" or "you're a nazi" is just an unintelligent stubborn way of saying "I have no argument, fuck you".

Ender1337otron · 2013-01-23T04:59:47+00:00

Right, don't actually debate the issue; simply demonize the opposition. Where have I seen this tactic before? Oh wait... that's right, every single time I see an argument in which one or more people don't really know what they're talking about.

ZomgBeer · 2013-01-23T05:41:45+00:00

I just had to

UncleGeorge · 2013-01-23T08:25:34+00:00

OP, look at her account, you don't have to worry about replying anything to her, just ignore her, she's completely insane

theozoph · 2013-01-23T10:50:56+00:00

I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. alllie harbors such lovely opinions as :

And that's just in the last 16 hours. IOW, she's an idiot of epic-level proportion, and nothing she says has any importance whatsoever.

And now, back to your usual program.

FracturedVision · 2013-01-23T15:21:22+00:00

It seems you threatened her personally. Viewing /u/alllie 's post history, it looks like she depends on a comfortable, supported lifestyle to be a full-time redditor.

FitzforMVP · 2013-01-23T16:27:58+00:00

I am not really involved with this subreddit so excuse my ignorance, but why do some people have a negative view of r/mensrights?

Mikash33 · 2013-01-23T16:58:02+00:00

I love how this subreddit has spawned a series of haters like no other. It warms my heart to know that there are women out there who hate me just for subscribing to it and feeling like Egalitarianism is a proper way of thinking, as opposed to what they believe, which is simply that women should get what they want, when they want it, forever.

This is also a great example of Reductio ad Hitlerum. Seen here

emu90 · 2013-01-23T06:11:31+00:00

i like how she draws comparisons to nazis, when she's got this pearler in her comment history, ironic much?

joannamon · 2013-01-23T06:40:46+00:00

This makes me ashamed of my gender.

kinyutaka · 2013-01-23T07:05:16+00:00

Talk about a hail mary pass from the lunatic fringe. Projection.

TiberiusBostwick · 2013-01-23T12:48:09+00:00

Don't worry, that person is an ignorant shit. The world is filled with them.

Kazinsal · 2013-01-23T04:44:38+00:00

Heil Equality.

unholyprawn · 2013-01-23T05:13:26+00:00

I got involved in a discussion like this with someone on tumblr. I said men's rights are important, just like women's rights. As an example, I mentioned that if someone performs a circumcision on a male infant, nobody bats an eye, but if someone circumcises a female infant, they are a criminal as a good reason why people shouldn't say that men don't need laws to protect them.

This waste of flesh and organs throws out this load of shit, typical of someone who doesn't give a shit about politics until they go to college when they develop the illusion (aided in no small part by tumblr) that everyone is out to get them for anything, about how "penis doesn't equal man so male circumcision isn't a men's rights issue."

Instead of taking the easy route and asking why, if genitals doesn't equate gender, FGM is such a major feminist issue, I suggested that, since most penis-havers identify as male, it should be a MR issue. She responded with a series of ad hominem attacks on me resulting in several anonymous threats in my inbox.

Some people can't be reasoned with. Sad but true...

hyugafan · 2013-01-23T05:59:24+00:00

Awww look at that... You hurt her fedlings! Stop arguing and admit she's right, damn you!

/sarcasm

That was just cringe-worthy.

NiggerJew944 · 2013-01-23T07:45:09+00:00

http://i.imgur.com/Fy01S.jpg

2013-01-23T08:22:19+00:00

It's because people seem to have two things mixed up. Equal rights and special rights.

2013-01-23T08:44:33+00:00

Some feminists are fucking idiots beyond belief, clear strawmanning aswell, it's like they don't even know what they're arguing about.

1mannARMEE · 2013-01-23T09:34:20+00:00

So basically if someone doesn't agree with you he is some sort of neo nazi.

Fascinating way of thinking.

ultraslob · 2013-01-23T10:43:00+00:00

What you guys need to understand is that these people are extremely unhappy and unsure about themselves. It is awesome for them to feel their need for attention validated on the internet where, in srs or r/feminism they can tell themselves that their own problems and shortcomings are not really their own fault. They ca deflect their hatred for themselves towards those who they've been told to blame. Why would an unstable person not love and defend this? Why would a hateful person not absolutely love being allowed to hate someone openly? it's like a hate-one-free-card and they are going to use it beyond recognition. Thing is, you cannot and should not argue against them. It does no good. Instead try to tell the mentally stable about this movement.

Avista · 2013-01-23T12:14:24+00:00

Looking at this chicks comment history baffles me. Why is there so much interest in the form of votes on all her comments?

Draegur · 2013-01-23T13:26:51+00:00

shit. I don't even usually COME here and I can tell that this line of reasoning is fucking stupid. You know why? Godwin's law.

NOTHING.

IS EVER.

AS BAD.

AS NAZIS.

You don't go around comparing shit to the Nazi party. You don't fucking disrespect the souls of the millions of people they murdered.

I am overwhelmed by how much of a piece of shit that 'alllie' person is.

2013-01-23T13:39:29+00:00

WAR IS PEACE, FREEDOM IS SLAVERY, IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH... EQUALITY IS GENOCIDE.

psuedopseudo · 2013-01-23T13:53:40+00:00

There is no faster way to discredit yourself, and remove all doubt of your lack of intelligence, than to call someone a Nazi for their beliefs.

Once you resort to ad hominem of the "oh yeah well you're a Nazi then" level, all hope of a reasonably intelligent conversation is lost.

kinyutaka · 2013-01-23T14:13:15+00:00

Funny, I was always told that if you resort to calling people Nazis, you have probably already lost the argument.

2013-01-23T14:16:57+00:00

I feel like such a minority now, and being an atheist makes me like worse than a KKK nazi. I'm such a nice person though...

2013-01-23T15:01:20+00:00

John Rabe was a Nazi. If she dares say he was a bad guy she is worth less than that black stuff that stick to the outside of your pots and pants and you can't remove without scratching the shit out of them.

Being a part of any group does not make you a bad or good guy. Your actions determine your worth, not your position.

A_User · 2013-01-23T16:50:47+00:00

Typical tumblr/reddit feminist;

Can't refute an argument? Just try silencing and supression by hurling accusations of bigotry.

YOURE_READING_THIS · 2013-01-23T17:58:41+00:00

I was recently banned in /r/againstmensrights or whatever it is called. What did I do? I questioned them, I even agreed with several of their opinions but because I shared an alternative view I was banned.

mojokabobo · 2013-01-23T21:09:38+00:00

"Because marriage is supposed to be a partnership and when the partnership ends you split the assets."-- Ok, I follow, and I agree.

"I suppose we could go back to the old testament way. In those days when a man with some money decided his wife was too old to appeal to him he divorced her, and unless she had family to return to, she ended up begging on the street."--doesn't really sound like a bad deal to me, because nowadays women can go and get a fucking job..

"She couldn't even be a whore because she would get stoned. That entire system was why Jesus outlawed divorce."-- I guess that's why women don't get stoned to death for being whores anymore. Hell, usually they make pretty good cash from it.

This lady is crazy, and a troll.

igloo_master · 2013-01-24T08:55:31+00:00

My great Uncle (who was a member of the NSDAP, and in the Wehrmacht) died in the Battle of Stalingrad. He was 22, and loved his country.

This woman can go fuck herself. Those were dark fucking times and I hope she gets a lesson in humanity.

justsomegrump · 2013-01-23T01:47:57+00:00

MRs are the new Nazis.

As opposed to the old one currently arguing or...

Also, I have discovered our new 'mascot' of sorts, this.

Now with 10% more patriarchy.

ucecatcher · 2013-01-23T03:47:04+00:00

Do we at least get good German beer?

kingdomcome3914 · 2013-01-23T04:14:31+00:00

I think the redditor alllie's diet is chock-full of vitamin dumbass. Just my two cents in the matter.

Rahmulous · 2013-01-23T04:41:03+00:00

This is who you dealt with.

Also, a nice pie chart.

Looking at this mess, I am not one bit surprised if/that she truly believes that we are the new nazis. I guess all I have to say is: HEIL FAIRNESS; HEIL EQUALITY!

duggtodeath · 2013-01-23T04:43:02+00:00

This is awesome. When cornered, SRS resorts to name-calling.

crash_over-ride · 2013-01-23T06:39:10+00:00

alright then, I'm off to the fire up the ovens

jpaul3211 · 2013-01-23T07:32:23+00:00

I'm a gay nazi then. How about that?

lamamafia · 2013-01-23T12:58:37+00:00

Hum, not sure if I agree with your argument. Stay at home parents still exist, it's a choice made by both members of the family. If by your definition the stay at home parent didn't work, they didn't "earn" it and thus are eligible for nothing.

I think in the case of divorce, material stuff should be divided between the two members if their date of acquisition was during the marriage. As for supporting a parent who isn't at work, I say 4 months is plenty to get back on the job market.

In any case the biggest problem with current system is where the child goes. It's way too easy for the woman if the kids are young (6 years old for example) to just claim them and force the dad into a 1 week out of 2 weekend stay even if he was the best parent in the couple.

Arx0s · 2013-01-23T13:53:47+00:00

/u/alllie is also an avid conspiracist and believes in the eradication of Muslims. Most would argue that she was literally Hitler.

nathan1942 · 2013-01-23T14:01:29+00:00

Wow. The stupidity is painful.

Omnominable · 2013-01-23T14:09:00+00:00

Hey, if I can get one of those snazzy black SS uniforms, I'm good.

fappyday · 2013-01-23T14:44:00+00:00

Hello fellow Nazis! Am I too late for the book burning?

Fwob · 2013-01-23T15:27:55+00:00

She honestly believes this doesn't she? How fucking diluted can you be? /R/MRs = Nazi Germany

Does she think we're investing in gas chambers for the feminists?

CamelCash007 · 2013-01-23T15:58:42+00:00

Hold on guys, let me go get my swastika.

jjruml · 2013-01-23T16:12:26+00:00

/r/rage

sandgoose · 2013-01-23T16:22:23+00:00

Good job, according to Godwin's Law you won.

bamiam · 2013-01-23T16:45:41+00:00

The nazi comparison is such a transparent cop-out.

SuperUppercut · 2013-01-23T18:42:38+00:00

She's using ancient history to justify hating an entire group of people.

Sounds like she's the Nazi here.

Xervicx · 2013-01-23T19:57:38+00:00

SRS actually sent a downvote brigade based on something I said. I don't mind that they disagreed with my comment, but in every comment I mentioned that to me, my opinions would be the same no matter what the genders were of the individuals involved in the issue I was discussing. Yet they kept focusing on the fact that a woman was every the subject of any kind of discussion or opinion.

They automatically assumed that I felt women should just stay in the kitchen with their skin barely showing at all, with their mouths shut. Why is it that they do that, and then when shown that the people they are fighting against are actually on their side, they fight even more?

2013-01-23T21:22:14+00:00

Alllie has some serious issues to work out there.

Miles2gobeforeIsleep · 2013-01-23T02:45:43+00:00

That escalated quickly.

pyroxys007 · 2013-01-23T03:37:05+00:00

MR/MRM....and that is?

ChaplnGrillSgt · 2013-01-23T03:56:10+00:00

HEIL!!

NemesisFrank · 2013-01-23T04:15:48+00:00

MRs, literally worse than Hitler.

Graematter · 2013-01-23T04:25:52+00:00

I literally said, out loud(ly), "WHAT the FUCK?" Reddit doesn't do that to me very often. I'm so, so sick of people like this. I have oodles of tolerance, and I have oodles of self-control...but I just get so angry when I see things like this, I feel like I'm being trolled. Like back in the day, myg0t style.

Kirkayak · 2013-01-23T04:47:26+00:00

Vehemence =/= quality of argument.

Alllie garners few points (mostly in his/her initial comment).

2013-01-23T06:44:30+00:00

trolled hard

holzy444 · 2013-01-23T07:15:08+00:00

Nope I won't believe it. Someone from /b/ is laughing very hard right now..... right?

funnyfaceking · 2013-01-23T09:52:17+00:00

we must be doing something right

roadhand · 2013-01-23T10:22:39+00:00

Just wow.

2013-01-23T10:40:15+00:00

Can Hugo Boss give us suits?

2013-01-23T10:55:03+00:00

Hahaha....she's already tagged as "Idiot Partisan Leftist" on RES. I guess I'll go ahead and switch that out to "Where is my mind?"

iMADEthis2post · 2013-01-23T13:10:43+00:00

That's a new level of stupid.

Tusse · 2013-01-23T13:49:46+00:00

We have a new pig wrestinling champion ;)

wildfire2k5 · 2013-01-23T14:12:33+00:00

Hey I can name call too! Stupid bitch!

2013-01-23T14:46:56+00:00

Why does everyone on Men's Rights let themselves get trolled all the time?

WilliamEDodd · 2013-01-23T15:13:15+00:00

See, I almost agree with her in the sense that mensrights is just another divergent to the real issue at hand. Women made feminism, which was originally about equal rights, something more then what it was. Mensrights was created because men started to think they were getting mistreated and are pro mens rights. What about a collective that really brings equality in? A human rights? No idea what'd you would call it but something needs to change.

Omnipraetor · 2013-01-23T15:24:36+00:00

Es ist zeit fur rights!

robotiger101 · 2013-01-23T15:55:48+00:00

Maybe you shouldn't make generalizations about people who receive alimony. While she did resort to name calling, she did make some good, valid points about it.

joshgeek · 2013-01-23T16:10:32+00:00

I call troll.

2013-01-23T16:48:34+00:00

Wow, I'm a nazi? This is so unexpected.

Hooopes · 2013-01-23T17:20:53+00:00

Reading over ('her?') comments (http://www.reddit.com/user/alllie) they really embody the "college liberal" meme. I mean, just blanket insult generalizations. Disappointing.

brningpyre · 2013-01-23T18:46:04+00:00

Those are the kind of people that protested and blockaded at the U of T.

We like to pretend that they're rare and only fringe extremists, but they're much more commonplace.

DrunkenPrayer · 2013-01-23T19:05:49+00:00

Obvious troll is obvious.

cptbass · 2013-01-23T19:06:14+00:00

Bat shit crazy right there...

Hotglue89 · 2013-01-23T19:54:43+00:00

Where do I begin to describe her statement?

AnonTheAnonymous · 2013-01-23T20:06:33+00:00

More like when a black man attends KKK meetings, the KKK will assume he is a bad guy, when a Jew attends a Nazi meetings, the Nazis will assume he is a bad guy, and when an MRA attends a feminist discussion, feminists will assume he is the bad guy.

2013-01-23T20:16:54+00:00

Holy shit...And heres me thinking I just wanted equality in law so I can see my son more, and contribute to his life through education. Right now he could be in a hospital, abroad in a different country...hell he could have died, and my ex is under no obligations to tell me.

Thats all I want...No gassing jews or invading poland thanks!

Redemption_012 · 2013-01-23T20:30:09+00:00

Hahahahah brilliant! Keep it up girls. Every time one of you does this it adds more and more legitimacy to our movement for equal rights for men AND women!!!

Please keep helping us fight the good fight!

mojokabobo · 2013-01-23T21:01:51+00:00

alphaqbtch · 2013-01-23T22:14:14+00:00

that has to be the most inane argument i have ever read

Lutherie · 2013-01-24T00:12:20+00:00

Do people actually have this opinion...? It just seems so absurd.

Lutherie · 2013-01-24T00:23:35+00:00

MeEvilBob · 2013-01-24T00:37:36+00:00

Apparently thinking that men should have the same equal rights as women means that we want to torture and kill all women on earth, yea, that makes sense.

dysgraphia_add · 2013-01-30T03:04:07+00:00

Damn it. I'm a Nazi. Alright everybody, pack up the pride parade, to spite being trans, I'm a Nazi.

Collective82 · 2013-01-23T04:59:16+00:00

Seen Kyle? He's about this tall.

thiss · 2013-01-23T22:59:06+00:00

Men's rights = literally nazis

KenKannon · 2013-01-23T03:08:18+00:00

stupid cunt

procom49 · 2013-01-23T07:56:51+00:00

Whait.... We're NOT Nazis??

ddarenas03 · 2013-01-23T04:28:22+00:00

It's obviously that time of the month

Title	I... I don't even...
Author	tramik
Upvotes	1642
Comments	405
Date	January 23, 2013 12:44 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrights/comments/173aiv/i-i-dont-even/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/i-i-dont-even.1604664 https://theredarchive.com/post/1604664

Comments

NOTHING.

IS EVER.

AS BAD.

AS NAZIS.