Women who follow male red pill content and are interested in it - why?

Laytheblameonluck · 2021-12-01T21:47:51+00:00

I’m super active on these pages because I’m interested and study gender issues, feminism, men rights, red pill/blue pill, all of it.

However my main purpose in coming here was to get some real advice on my love life and I found that the dating and dating advice subs would just sugar coat things and tell me that the right guy was coming and that I was perfect and guys were just dicks and I just didn’t buy it so that was how I found this place

And some of this is just funny to me, if I’m being honest I like bantering and this is a great place for it lmao

Fappuchino · 2021-12-01T21:25:14+00:00

There are a lot of things I am not the “intended audience” for, but I still watch them and try to learn more about them. The easiest answer is that I am curious. I enjoy learning about different perspectives and understanding where certain views come from. I also enjoy attempting to find commonalities with individuals who believe different things from me. It’s cheesy, but I firmly believe that humans are not so terribly different from one another, and we have a lot to gain by listening to each other/attempting to understand each other.

SuspiciousRule · 2021-12-01T22:51:52+00:00

I'm interested in how people think. I followed red pill, MGTOW, VEGANS,child free, LGBT, jubelie debates,etc. I follow many social groups for short while.

CimZim · 2021-12-01T22:06:30+00:00

I've been involved in the manosphere since I was 20 years old. Initially I was drawn to it because I come from a very tradcon household that was also misogynistic, so to hear about men complaining about not being heard in their relationships or being victims of misandry in the dating world was bizarre to me. The way I was raised, the men are in charge...the idea of men feeling how I felt in a patriarchal home was really interesting. I always assumed men could suffer from sexism but didn't know how.

Nowadays I watch/read it because some of it resonates with me (like mgtow stuff, go your own way, forget gender roles that don't work for you) and because it's still a good view into the minds of certain men. I'm an egalitarian first and foremost...I want to actively help eliminate sexism, whether it's misandric or misogynistic. By watching red and black pill channels, I gain knowledge about what changes are important. Also, there's a lot of guys who are hurt and just need someone to listen and sympathize. I'm happy to do so if it means they hurt less.

Sorcha16 · 2021-12-01T21:55:42+00:00

Watching a YouTube video doesn't mean you support the content. There will be people rage watching, people watching for entertainment and ofcourse the people that have just heard about red pill or the cc.

Hot_Funny6531 · 2021-12-02T00:00:57+00:00

I follow FDS for a different perspective and awareness

idrinkapplejuice42 · 2021-12-01T21:50:40+00:00

Any women on here watch Alexander Grace? Im curious if anybody here has a legitimate criticism of him. Seems pretty level headed and reasonable imo.

pearllovespink · 2021-12-01T21:52:40+00:00

It’s literally a 101 step by step guide on how not to get played and what to look out for. A friend introduced me to it a couple years ago. She sent me some youtube videos and told me to watch them.

Edit: It looks like most of the women in this thread follow for the same reason I did. Smart girls!

GoWest7 · 2021-12-01T21:51:54+00:00

Self defense and awareness

wtknight · 2021-12-01T22:18:50+00:00

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Jonesw16 · 2021-12-01T22:44:43+00:00

It helps me understand myself and others better and it gets me closer to achieving my goals.

mandoa_sky · 2021-12-01T23:07:30+00:00

side hobby in social psychology

Kitchen_Apartment · 2021-12-02T00:39:30+00:00

I don’t subscribe to the ideology but I like to explore all extremes and see how that informs my own beliefs. There are some grains of truth there, like any belief system.

FabulousFuchsbau · 2021-12-01T21:32:45+00:00

Mainly to avoid dating the types of men I was warned to never date.

It worked because they’re not subtle at all.

Ruben_the_Fish · 2021-12-01T21:48:19+00:00

It's great to see how men really think when they let their guard down. It also warns me of certain behaviors and opinions that I see as red flags and they do not. When the red pill men show their cards on how to manipulate women, I learn their tricks.

xQueen-Bx · 2021-12-01T23:42:20+00:00

well, i started following the red pill and the nascent manosphere in like 2008 with roissy (chateau heartiste) primarily. i was linked to it by the HBD-o-sphere, since sex differences is part of the interests of HBD. the stuff they said just sounded like "how men talk", not anything particularly revolutionary or anything that hadnt been said by eddie murphy, chris rock, the movies tao of steve and swingers, the TV show friends (which coined "the friend zone"). the mgtow anti feminism was mor einteresting to me as a lifelong non feminist. i have no idea what happened in the 2000s and on that allegedly erased all human knowledge of game, pick up, seduction, sex differences etc but it all just sounded like normal guy talk to me

FabulousFuchsbau · 2021-12-01T21:23:53+00:00

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Cauligoblin · 2021-12-01T22:00:08+00:00

I’ve watched a lot of things I don’t agree with much in my time, I think it’s important to know and understand people who think different from me

Traditional-Worth295 · 2021-12-02T01:36:46+00:00

Maybe just from curiousity? Maybe the same reason men look at FDS?

Dazzling-Poem97 · 2021-12-02T02:18:41+00:00

Rich Cooper is GOATED

Megabyte7637 · 2021-12-02T02:43:53+00:00

EIIendigWichtje · 2021-12-02T11:45:57+00:00

For the level of entertainment.

I am deeply interested in psychology and TRP is gold to play the game, which personality disorder might you have. Like after reading every post, I'm just wondering 'who hurt you?'.

I like it.

sottera777 · 2021-12-02T01:28:45+00:00

Will get hate for this but what else is new. I was groomed as a child (14) to engage in hookup culture by feminism (by feminists online and older ones I knew irl in highschool). I experienced trauma and so years later I started looking into conservative / tradcon arguments that criticized feminism on twitter. From there I found red pill mgtow people.

The ones I tend to watch be more on the tradcon side instead of strictly mgtow (but still throw in typically mgtow views here and there in their content). I find them funny and I enjoy the creators who critique feminism the most. Think Before You Sleep is probably the one I’ve watched the most.

I have watched the creators who strictly speak on mgtow dating strategies (like the ones you listed). I find them to be depraved and they are completely complicit in their own problems and are effeminate whiney cry babies. But it’s still interesting to me to see their perspective so I watch occasionally. I also watch them to pick up on what behaviors to avoid in a man like other users have said.

cupcakegensis · 2021-12-01T21:47:11+00:00

It's kind of like watching nickacado avocado or similar trainwreck style youtuber. I think k most humans have a weird sick fascination watching people ruin their lives or do cringy stuff

fakingandnotmakingit · 2021-12-01T21:39:48+00:00

Cause its funny.

Throwaway18077 · 2021-12-01T22:11:07+00:00

Because I believe these men are in pain. If I can understand the source of their pain further, perhaps I can help them or at least not hurt them further than they are already hurting.

ubuntuuuuu · 2021-12-01T21:45:41+00:00

I do it for fun but also use it to educate my friends and show them how men can think about them behind their backs. Red pill turned me into a hardcore feminist and did the same to my friends, including the ones who were still deep into religion.

luliloo · 2021-12-02T07:11:16+00:00

I started dating a guy this year that followed the red pill. I had never heard of it before and started researching it.

I saw a clip from Kevin Samuels and it clicked. It started making sense and I felt like it explained some of the dating issues I’ve experienced. I got deep into the rabbit hole and basically was trying to learn how to bag my HVM. Find out what looks for, what he would appreciate, how to stand out from other women, etc. Learning from the fishermen how to get caught. It has helped A LOT.

It also helps a lot for me to understand his mindset. For example, I don’t get upset when he says something I would’ve thought was misogynistic in the past because I know why he’s saying it. When he holds frame, I don’t take it too seriously because I know why he’s doing that, etc.

I did start to worry I was getting sucked into misogynistic RP ideas so I watched a lot of debate style videos from Kevin Samuels and Fresh and Fit to see what counterarguments the women had but I usually agreed with the RP side. I also joined PPD to make sure I was seeing things from both sides.

Now that I’ve seen enough of those videos, I don’t watch anymore since it’s pretty repetitive.

chanelette · 2021-12-01T21:43:48+00:00

I casually read red pill content, and will occasionally watch videos about it. I continue to do this because I have encountered red pill men in real life and I know exactly the language to look out for. They are prevalent in real life (through friend groups or they ask me out irl), and on dating apps.

My intro to red pill was before I was on Reddit or anything. My dad got really into it and forced me to sit through some red pill documentary. My dad is also notorious for treating women badly, but he tried to use this as evidence that all women were the same and shit and woe be to him as a white heterosexual male.

ItWasBrokenAlready · 2021-12-01T21:36:33+00:00

Lovely, juicy internet drama. Same reason ppl follow lolcows.

TomorrowsWar · 2021-12-01T21:22:30+00:00

I look at that stuff to learn about what kind of men I can avoid. I find subtle ways to test if he believes in all that jargon and use soft red pill language to goad and eliminate him from my dating pool. We’re incompatible if you’re red pill so it works for both of us

lingualistic · 2021-12-01T23:01:06+00:00

I've looked at it a bit, somewhat of a "know thy enemy" type thing.

I don't look at any of it regularly, because I don't like reading sludge from monstrous creatures lol. It actually cracks me up how many men stalk FDS and try to "infiltrate" all the time with comments and posts. They really do not have a life. With the RP/incel stuff, i'll check it out when I first discover it (the subreddit or blog or whatver), be like "ew, pathetic" and then never look at it again because it's boring and gross.

CatchPhraze · 2021-12-02T01:19:22+00:00

Wayyyyy back when I used Tumblr before pintrest and yummly replaced them. We hunted the mammoth, a blog that used to make fun of trp stuff. I was interested found roosh/rok and later a voice for men and was so interested In how wrong/hateful it was. As a daughter of a single dad I was definitely sympathetic to the sexism men can face but this rhetoric was so next level.

Then the incel lexicon became mainstream and I'm Still so interested. Sometimes I read the crazy ass shit yall say and me and my s.o laugh together

pubgmisc · 2021-12-02T02:46:32+00:00

RP Is just fundamental laws of nature. Reality has double standards and each gender is hard wired very differently

Kizka · 2021-12-02T04:13:03+00:00

Basic entertainment

Blaphrodite · 2021-12-02T11:47:23+00:00

You want to know how the other side thinks, how they move…. So you can identify red flags early.

suspicious_hamstring · 2021-12-02T11:48:50+00:00

I was wondering why relationships and dating seem so hard from what I've read in Reddit and stumbled on the rp content. I come from a different culture and find it interesting that everyone is speaking their minds so much about anything.

Some comments are quite funny too. And I've learnt the red flags to look out for when I meet people.

champagneandcode · 2021-12-02T11:52:46+00:00

Mostly because it's interesting. It's like being a fly on the wall i.e. I get to listen to a myriad of men talk about things they wouldn't normally talk about in front of women.

YveisGrey · 2021-12-02T14:26:05+00:00

I hate watch it and I want to stop because I honestly don’t want to give these men any views but the content just boils my blood and I also like to engage and comment as to why I disagree. And they teach me what to avoid in men. Lastly I don’t think that 5-10% female viewership is weird for those subs I mean is there any content creator that has 100% male or female viewership?

LeaveThisPlanet · 2021-12-02T19:51:42+00:00

I watch them and read them so I know exactly what turds to avoid. 😉

flapperfemmefatale · 2021-12-02T00:54:43+00:00

Know thine enemy ;)

IcarusKiki · 2021-12-02T02:51:48+00:00

i have an interest in psychology - and its funny to watch red pillers be waay off in terms of describing womens though processes

Substantial_Wasabi · 2021-12-02T01:02:18+00:00

so i can use their "game" against them

Fishyinthemiddle · 2021-12-02T04:22:59+00:00

It's like learning about cults. It's fascinating.

not0my0real0account7 · 2021-12-02T06:06:28+00:00

Hi! I'm interested in psychology and sociology and I try to learn and understand different cultures, ideologies, life theories and points of view so I watched and read a bit about it.

FabulousFuchsbau · 2021-12-01T21:44:29+00:00

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womandatory · 2021-12-01T23:42:28+00:00

I read it because it helps to know what men really think of women.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-12-01T21:49:59+00:00

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dres_sler · 2021-12-01T23:25:38+00:00

Even tho I don’t consider myself red pill in the slightest I do occasionally watch the content. A lot of it is cringe.

But it’s funny to see the VAST difference in what a lot of people perceive the core tenets of TRP to be and what it actually is.

ffandyy · 2021-12-01T23:27:21+00:00

The same reason men lurk FDS, it’s a train wreck that you can’t look away from

holymotherofbunnies · 2021-12-01T23:44:01+00:00

I find it fascinating, I agree with some points, and modern dating is garbage. It's also nice to be called a unicorn.

iwannabeastonedhippy · 2021-12-02T00:32:48+00:00

Awareness, self-defense and to know exactly who to watch out for. Also for self-improvement.

Sex-y-er · 2021-12-02T07:21:31+00:00

If you include redpill content such as books then,

As most women have mentioned on this sub, they hate the redpill. They want to stop it's growth. Therefore they dislike and leave negative reviews about the content, and teach themselves and other women about it. This is the power of women, their unity.

I also agree with what other women have said on this thread "know thy enemy" . These are the days of gender wars.

-Giga- · 2021-12-02T00:00:25+00:00

The only content of that nature I'll usually see is here in PPD.

That said, I think I'll be crafting a resource on our site and subs for short hand ways to spot red pillers and toxic men in general for distribution.

The collection from popular posts and content and some common negative outcomes direct from source should do the trick.

I know a lot of women are continuing to spread the word, I just want to do my part. Since these type of men won't stay in their lane and focus on women interested in their casual sex plots, helping less women get decieved is a major plus.

TodTheRod01 · 2021-12-02T00:08:17+00:00

The problem with the premise is that many women view RP completely differently then it is.

RP is about bettering mens lives, not feeding them fairy tales, how to better themselves in various avenues...but for some reason many women view it as negative, woman bashing, etc...

lipstickmami474839 · 2021-12-02T00:23:25+00:00

Meh. I wouldn't say I follow it. I was bored one day , found some content, and browsed around for a bit. I wouldn't say there's anything particularly interesting about their perspectives because it's all a clear case of young men who have no real grasp of society. It's like someone locked in a room for 5 years and keep telling you outside is green, when it's really blue but they keep insisting it's green because of what they saw on TV. How would you know if you've never been outside lol

DreamsOfWishes · 2021-12-02T01:28:58+00:00

To be more capable of dodging men that watch such content.

mannfan9292 · 2021-12-01T23:43:58+00:00

I want to understand the media my partners are consuming.

EviessVeralan · 2021-12-02T04:19:29+00:00

It's interesting to hear from a male perspective about gender issues without them feeling the need to pander to the feminist movement. Plus, I tend to find the no BS attitude a few of them have to be refreshing in 2021, even if i have philosophical disagreements with them.

lvlupkitten · 2021-12-02T04:47:02+00:00

I have an interest in watching people discuss gender issues, regardless of their opinion I find it interesting to hear different stuff from different people. I also use it so I can identify RP men in real life and next them lol

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thetruthishere_ · 2021-12-02T04:23:10+00:00

Perplexing that a whole 10% of women may watch? I would not find it perplexing 10% of men are watching women videos... People stumble places and may watch. I just see is as they may be curious, its not that deep.

I stumbled into RP years ago. I wasn't interested in per say but found some of the content interesting. I more found it sad, angry and bitter. Also some delusions.

Mwvhv · 2021-12-02T05:11:36+00:00

mostly just for comedy tbh

cozy_dozy · 2021-12-02T05:20:11+00:00

It's entertaining and fun to read. I've always enjoyed watching groups of people who are more fringe.

Throwaway230306 · 2021-12-02T05:48:15+00:00

There was a time when I read a lot of guys from the Roissy/Roosh/Rollo/Athol Kay/Dalrock/Red Pill Room generation of bloggers. I thought RP theory more or less accurately described gender dynamics, or at least was less wrong than mainstream liberal feminism. It helped me understand what went wrong with my first two boyfriends and what went right with my now husband. It also reflected the two marriages I've seen up close, my parents' and my grandparents'.

I don't follow men's RP stuff anymore but I still like reading and thinking about gender dynamics.

As for why women follow RP: In addition to the women who buy into RP there are plenty of women who hate read/watch this stuff. (Popular reddit subs like fundie snark and blogsnark are filled with women hate reading content and then analyzing it in exhaustive detail.)

Normie_account_ · 2021-12-02T12:16:01+00:00

I dont know or can grasp most redpill tenents (and their delusion that they get attractive with age is rage-inducing)

But in the spirit of this question: I love incel communities - especially those that ban porn (the sites with porn seem to attract the men lacking in basic cognition). I find incels funny and consider them a breath of fresh air for not only caring for their appearances - but hating themselves for it.

Im an incredibly visual woman. I actively resent average-looking men, men who dont stand out, or men who dont care. It fully boils into full on rage when the ugliness is particularly egregious. Is this my dating pool? No thanks, and fuck off. Insecure men give me the surge of dopamine I need.

oldcamembert · 2021-12-02T13:35:13+00:00

Because I have a boy to bring up without a male role model and I want to at least try to understand how it works from the other side's perspective.

Diamond-Breath · 2021-12-02T15:37:42+00:00

I started being interested in it after reading an article on Return of Kings. I'm curious by nature so I read almost everything on that site. It made me learn how to better identify redpill types to avoid them like the plague.

Whynotbebetter · 2021-12-02T15:39:42+00:00

I still have no idea what red pill (or whatever pill) is/means. Someone help? :3

DiamondLilyD · 2021-12-02T23:03:49+00:00

Got to learn their 'tactics' so I can avoid them.

Zerofication · 2021-12-03T08:26:47+00:00

Most women aren't rational, the ones I find in redpill content seem a bit more rational compared to the average woman.

Willow-girl · 2021-12-03T12:26:06+00:00

Because it's funny AF?

/r/askmrp is prime entertainment ...

bubu_baba · 2021-12-11T10:16:54+00:00

Women will infiltrate male spaces and take over. And here are these males giving away all the secrets so women can learn more ways to increase the number of incels.

Metaverse Porn (you know it will exist) will rebalance the extra advantage women currently have out here

bunnyisastrangebeing · 2021-12-27T00:25:52+00:00

lines of thinking, the niche language and terms, interests me. it gets absurd to a point too, rather it be the content or just the reactions/comments, and I find that hilarious. These things could be shitty things, really shitty things, but it gets so ridiculous I can’t help but laugh

hearyoume14 · 2021-12-02T01:14:44+00:00

I like observing human behavior and there is a female red pill side plus other women are more likely to listen to us than you guys.

People like to come to me about relationships,despite barely doing friendships much less anything else,and I have no issue telling people the hard truths.

NPC_Personality_277 · 2021-12-02T01:23:51+00:00

I think FDS is the female version of redpill (or perhaps MGTOW as it is nowadays) but I follow out of curiosity. It’s healthy to read different perspectives and while I mostly disagree there is the occasional point I do support. Although normally not all the comments afterwards which trash men.

Edit : I’m a male doing the inverse of this question and it might be a reason why females do the same.

Title	Women who follow male red pill content and are interested in it - why?
Author	OldSimpsonsisbetter
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Date	December 1, 2021 9:19 PM UTC (4 years ago)
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