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[–]heleninthealpsFDS Apprentice477 points478 points479 points 5 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link
He's literally describing love bombing. It's scary if they can keep it up for 5 months, but that's why I'm extra sceptical to everything before 6 months. Usually they can't keep it up longer than that before the mask starts to fall off.
[–]Maude2010FDS Newbie329 points330 points331 points 5 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
“4-5 months” makes me think he’s lying. Men will do this awhile —usually till they get laid— but an investment like that is the work of a complete psycho, not a garden variety LVM.
[–]heythere360FDS Disciple176 points177 points178 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
A lot of handsome men are growing bored of sleeping with pick mes right off the bat. Some men resort to this behavior because they can. Men are hypergamous too. They want the hottest girl they have a connection with on their arm. So they hide behind false promises while never expecting to marry her or stop cheating from time to time.
I was almost a forever girlfriend. That is what FDS taught me and I’m forever grateful.
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[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly! I always wondered why would a man waste time doing this, until I realized from their perspective and from their ego perspective. Men like to feel like they earned it and that they got the woman hooked (even the LVM who won't pursue the women and expect them to come to them). Having sex with women who also just want casual sex though they won't say no, doesn't give them the dopamine and ego boost they want. But fooling a women into thinking she'll get a romantic relationship out of this and trick them gets them that high, it's like a game for them and much more entertainment. And specially if these men are ex incel/ugly men/men who were previously rejected by women, their resentment makes them love these games, loves making women suffer emotionally and chase them.
[–]mablejFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They view it like they view video games.
[–][deleted] 45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
God that is making my heart heavy.
[–]AnniaTFDS Disciple13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree. Yes, the run of the mill LVM will only keep the facade until he gets laid, but many other LVM want to have a woman that is always there at their beck and call for sex and emotional support, like a more long term non commital sex, and with many women they can only reach this by faking the potential of commitment for a long time, thus making women entering in situationships and forever girlfriend situations. What this dude says he did (fake or not) is psycho behavior yes, but I see several LVM love bombing women like this to hook them. Some of them don't want the average pickmeisha that would fall for the love bomb right on the first weeks, so they amp up their game to get women in upper leagues. Some women take more than a few weeks to be hooked by love bombing and "let them in".
[–]berned-outFDS Newbie64 points65 points66 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is NVM behavior, to the extreme, because you'll find most women in domestic violence situations talk about this yo-yo of emotional abuse, which almost has to include the honeymoon phase. What's not said in the guy's comments was that he won't stop doing the yo-yo. It's implied he ditches her and moves on, but no, men hate breaking up and losing the dog they like to beat. He'll continue, which is textbook domestic violence dynamics.
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple89 points90 points91 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nothing but truth in your words, people who do this are psychopaths. It is psychotic behavior when you put this much effort in to literally just cause other people pain. Like he gets off on them being in emotional distress. That is what psychopaths do. He doesn't even care. I think the only reason men like that dont take it further and start killing/raping people is because they may face jail and that is literally the only reason. They are completely insane.
[–]partypancakesbaconFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yep this is narcissistic personality disorder, NPD. They are psychopaths because they lack empathy. There are more of them around than you’d think.
[–]HaveNoIdeaWhatToPickFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Usually with this type of people you feel like there's something wrong but you can't tell right away what exactly. Then after some time their true face comes out and you have that "aha!" moment. Sadly, we don't do much about it until something bad happens and then we can be 100% sure we were right. Otherwise people think we are overreacting.
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[–]thatbitchfrom6CThrowaway Account93 points94 points95 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
That sounds so exhausting...a WHOLE YEAR (and problably more) of vetting, controlling your emotions to not completely fall, always paying attention, being ready to block and delete.. It's like you can't just relax and enjoy.
I understand it's necessary, but damn it's tiring.
[–]ComprehensiveAmoeba9FDS Apprentice49 points50 points51 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I had an ex put on an act for 8 months, I think cause he was lonely and looking for a girl to fill the void. Once his friends came back in town and he was able to hang with them everyday, he dropped me like a hot pocket🤡🤡🤡
[–]NowTrulyFDS Newbie34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
No, never under a year. That should be hard and fast FDS rule.
And (from personal experience), that should be a year of constant, regular, unbroken observation.
I repeat: NO BREAKS. AT ALL.
After a 1.5 year courtship, I thought I was marrying the HVM that broke the mold. Truly, one of God’s gifts! And my eyes were OPEN, ladies. (So I thought.)
Only trouble? There was a 5-month military deployment in there. That’s not a big deal, right? I mean, the guy was in CONSTANT contact! Really — every single day, he was reaching out to me! What dedication! What DEVOTION!
I’ve often thought back on that deployment. I really think that depraved sociopath used that time to recharge. Drop the mask for a bit, take a breather. That’s the only way I can explain how someone could keep up a facade for so long.
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
There is no direct distinction between sociopaths and psychopaths in psychology, so I honestly think these guys are just straight up psychopaths.
[–]hail_galaxar27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Kind of. Psychopaths have no conscience (have a prefrontal cortex disorder or brain injury) and sociopaths have little empathy, usually due to upbringing, less to do with their biology. Then there’s Personality disorders too. NPD and BPD have very similar traits.
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is highly debated within the medical field and many professionals claim there is no real difference between the two.
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[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
spot on :)
[–]LevelupmamaFDS Newbie0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Got a baby by one lol
[–]MerryprankstressFDS Newbie45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Mine kept it up more than 6 months. Now I'm highly cautious about anything under a year.
[–]heleninthealpsFDS Apprentice27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My current relationship is hitting the 6 month mark and I'm overly cautious right now to see if any flags will show up, so far he's wonderful. But reading all these comments here makes me worried it's all an act. Time will tell!
[–]Unlikely-MarzipanRuthless Strategist10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly how I feel. And it’s so hard to know what they’re really like, because they hide so much on their phones these days.
[–]OrchidLionFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
That's why Im never having sex til marriage. That's the way to go.
[–]jenneschguetFDS Newbie69 points70 points71 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Honey, just because he’s not having sex with you doesn’t mean he’ll not have sex with other people while he waits for you. Some men will wait as long as needed until he “has” you either by marriage or a child, and then the mask will slip off. Never stop vetting a significant other.
[–]Unlikely-MarzipanRuthless Strategist9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Ugh unfortunately this is true. I agree with the wait til 3 months mark, moreso for your emotional wellbeing if you’re someone who gets attached quickly. Or will feel used if he drops you. But, I’ve also known guys who were not that bothered about sex and were happy to wait... because they either fucked around or were porn addicts. I just really don’t think there’s any hard and fast rule, besides just like you say - constantly vetting. And unfortunately I think women should never let their guard down, even in marriage, because we’ve all heard and read about the stories of the perfect partner... who turned out to be a cheater or porn addict 10 years down the track. It’s actually terrifying.
Edit: I had an ex who waited 6 months for me. He was a PA and always staring at women, gaslit me, literally left me at a party to follow another girl around it was so embarrassing and obvious, and he ended up being physically and mentally abusive.
I also had another ex I was friends with for years before we got together. He seemed so HV. But the thing is, I think he actually has an inferiority complex and likes saying women. I knew things had changed, and I broke up with him because I wasn’t in love with him anymore, and he was with someone else within a couple of weeks but didn’t tell me. I knew because he kept talking about this “person” and would be uncontactable. I still appreciate him as a friend, and I know he would never mean harm, but even the most HV seeming person could easily do the dirty on you. I have a suspicion he did cheat, and well the girl he was with was also still with her previous partner too.
Jessica Simpson made nick wait for a long time. He made a comment about his celebrity crush ;I forget her name). Guess who he married after Jess and nick broke up... yup! His celeb crush.
Edit 2: just realised my comment sounds like I was against waiting for marriage! Sorry! I am 100% not against that at all. I think women should do whatever is right for them. So sorry if it came across that way. I was just thinking back to my random thoughts. Honestly, I’ve been fucked over by most men so I just don’t think there’s rhyme or reason, and we just have to be prepared to love ourselves and decide on, and stick to our own boundaries.
[–]OrchidLionFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Dont call me honey. And yes I will definitely continue vetting.
[–]Whateverbabe2FDS Apprentice8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Idk, I don't regret the sex from bad relationships, I regret letting my guard down.
[–]daisy_0720FDS Disciple231 points232 points233 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is why you WALK at the first sign of disrespect. No second chances, no trying to rationalize his behavior, no conversations.
A man has ONE chance with me. If he fucks it up, I'm gone.
[–][deleted] 27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is the mentality I’ve adopted after being walked on. Never again. Amen sis
[–]DangerousRiver9FDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yup, and this applies no matter how long you’ve been with him.
[–]Unlikely-MarzipanRuthless Strategist20 points21 points22 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think this is really important to note. Because we get caught in the sunk cost fallacy that if we’ve been together for a long time, then it’s worth trying to work through. But really? If you’ve been together for a long time that should be all the more reason for them not to disrespect you.
[–]biwinnyFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
its so hard to leave sometimes when you think of it like an investment. Just take your losses and accept the lessons you unfortunately had to learn and be grateful that you know better for the next time.
[–]eveninghopeFDS Apprentice468 points469 points470 points 5 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
How can anyone be this emotionally depraved?
[–]softensonicFDS Newbie230 points231 points232 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
PeNiS
[–]DangerousLeopard7116FDS Newbie207 points208 points209 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Y chromosome.
[–]NawSisFTFDS Newbie148 points149 points150 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Defective “x” chromosome is what I like to think of it as!
[–]DangerousLeopard7116FDS Newbie120 points121 points122 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Technically! It's the truth. They're mutants of us.
[–]PahapanFDS Disciple14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
100%, aberrations of nature. And they bring such instability to the world as a result. I do still have some faith that there are a small number of good men in existence but they have to fight an active, never-ending battle against their own biology.
[–][deleted] 66 points67 points68 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
At some point the mask falls off. Ladies take your damn time! Do not give up the 😻 he even specified the time frame!
[–]ashley-spanellyFDS Newbie29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was literally just thinking that I don’t have to be upset that people this devoid of any amount from empathy exist. Because the kind of guy who is trying to pull these games wouldn’t last a few hours in the “How to know for absolute fucking certain the guy you’re talking to is a douche or not” boot camp (aka everything to a T in the handbook)
He’s just not gonna pass up any of those “vibe checks” lol only a females with positively no standards whatsoever would fall for this 😂
Even your average pickmesha with a speck of options could see through this ruse. It’s laughable.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Thanks to our training here at FDS we can spot LVM from miles away
[–]bearded_dragonladyFDS STRATEGY COACH159 points160 points161 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I bet he got bored and started cheating around the 4-5 month mark and decided he didn't need to put effort into the relationship anymore, but wasn't going to say no to the girl jumping for his approval. Now he's acting like he's been masterminding the whole thing from the beginning.
[–]testing1to3FDS Newbie42 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Can’t believe he lasted 4-5 MONTHS! I would’ve guessed weeks at most from this scrote.
[–]bearded_dragonladyFDS STRATEGY COACH44 points45 points46 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He probably tried to cheat earlier but failed to find someone else. That's why he lovebombs and stays with naive girls for months at a time.
[–][deleted] 18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah I bet he never got laid in his life and is plugging this fake persona online to feel like the man.
[–]InfernalAngelblades21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is textbook Narcissistic abuse. Love bombing is the 1st part of the cycle followed by the devalue and discard phases. The last stage is known as hoovering. As in, they change behavior briefly to suck you back in so they can start the cycle all over again.
This isnt just a red flag, it's a flashing neon sign the size of a billboard. Run sis and do NOT look back.
[–]ello-mottoFDS Newbie347 points348 points349 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
That's why, make access to your time, sanity, approval and emotional commitment expensive. 👏👏👏
[–][deleted] 70 points71 points72 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Excellent motto. I need to print it and stick it in a wall.
[–][deleted] 125 points126 points127 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No empathy
[–]Mysterious_Midnight7FDS Apprentice120 points121 points122 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Imagine being such a miserable, self-loathing piece of shit that you do this intentionally and repetitively lol. Did it make you any richer or your dick any bigger? No
[–]Twolipz_78FDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well. Effing. Said!!
[–]Hipster-AuroraFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can't imagine having such an empty, meaningless life. All they do is sleep around and manipulate and bully others. Nothing else. No friends, family bonding, hobbies, no spiritual life, nothing. No wonder incels are so depressed and envious of happy men and women.
[–]NoThisIs-Patrick98 points99 points100 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are men that do this. I've experienced it. It's called love-bombing.
Except I become a raging bitch when I'm pissed off and there won't be no more sex from me, only nasty arguments until one of us gives up and the relationship crumbles and dies and becomes the dust it was meant to be.
That was before. Now, I just don't deal with it. You don't wanna talk to me? Fine. I'll find someone else who will. Peace, homie.
[–]night_glitterFDS Newbie267 points268 points269 points 5 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
This is one of the reasons I think Good morning texts are 🚩🚩🚩 Low effort pleasantries that require almost no thought are a NO from me. It’s a way to get you to engage without saying anything meaningful.
[–]Maude2010FDS Newbie183 points184 points185 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I remember the first time I started dating a guy who did this. I thought it was so weird. When someone I literally just met is acting like we’re a couple, he’s either desperate or manipulative.
[–]Danaus_genutiaFDS Newbie114 points115 points116 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"When someone I literally just met is acting like we're a couple, he's either desperate or manipulative."
YES YES YES!
[–]umbralgardenFDS Newbie37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or unemployed lmaoooo
[–]I_HATE_ECHO_CHAMBERSFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
OMG YES!
This has happened to me so many times!!!
[–][deleted] 104 points105 points106 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
good point, I never thought about it that way, but it makes so much sense, just sending "good morning beautiful" is lazyyyyyyyyy and highkey love bombing.
[–]jayohday95 points96 points97 points 5 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I absolutely hate when men do this after we just started talking. Bc yes, it’s a clear red flag of what you are trying to do. Also I don’t want to talk to you yet. I haven’t had my coffee and I don’t need you getting on my nerves first damn thing in the morning. Also you should have shit to do in the morning; your own shit.
[–]night_glitterFDS Newbie39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
For real. And in addition, if a guy wakes me up on Sat or Sun with a useless Good Morning text on my days to sleep in, it will be the the last time - whether he learns or I block him.
[–][deleted] 48 points49 points50 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have always found them cringey and manipulative. Its fuckboy shit.
[–]CatSweetsFDS Newbie90 points91 points92 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
And they can mass-send it to all the women they're talking to at a time. If a guy doesn't have something to talk to me about, I'd rather he doesn't bother me with good morning/night texts.
[–]testing1to3FDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Always seems like they’re controlling and making sure you’re home alone NOT trying to be sweet
[–]MindeskaFDS Newbie33 points34 points35 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never thought of it that way but I guess it is true. I've always appreciated good morning texts, but only if they actually also had something to say - maybe a funny story of something that happened on their commute or some news or something. I dated someone who would send 'good morning, how are you?' every day without fail and it drove me kind of insane. Now I see it's because it was just empty and pointless.
[–]moonlightuniverseFDS Newbie29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree. Sweet good morning texts from a guy you have not even gone on one date with is HUGE 🚩🚩🚩
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And they're corny and annoying. Text me something interesting.
[–]kht777FDS Newbie47 points48 points49 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Incredibly important to remember. I'd rather he try to hang out with me on dates once or twice a week than do meaningless text messages. That's the only serious way to weed them out.
[–]riricideFDS Apprentice11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, I just straight up say that now if I feel like that's what's happening. Not interested in a textual relationship.
[–]riricideFDS Apprentice13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I never understood the stupid good morning texts tbh. 100% agree with low effort though, if all he's sending are the GM texts and other bs then he's just trying to make up in quantity what he lacks in quality.
[–]PollyAnnaSunshineFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I hate them
[–]DangerousLeopard7116FDS Newbie152 points153 points154 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Imagine if a woman said this about men. It'd get reposted 40 times throughout a week, get on r/all three times, and have 40k likes with 200 awards and 5000 men all bitching about women under it.
[–]OrangeyPandaFDS Apprentice73 points74 points75 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I mean men like this are basically saying "my dick is so fucking disgusting and I got a stupid woman to touch it! Hahaha what a dumb woman, touching my smelly gross body, when will women ever learn." Like imagine thinking a woman should be ashamed for touching you 🤣🤣
[–]azureangel35FDS Apprentice64 points65 points66 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's just it though-deep down they fucking loathe themselves. Narcissism is just self hate that was masked a long time ago. Emotionally, they are black holes with no capacity to view women as human.
https://www.healthyplace.com/personality-disorders/malignant-self-love/the-narcissists-stripped-ego
[–]Maude2010FDS Newbie113 points114 points115 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This is sociopathic.
[–]Confection_EfficientFDS Newbie51 points52 points53 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It really is. Learning to recognize these types of “men” when they cross your path is critical. I think raising the bar of communication has been the one thing I’ve changed over the years. I refuse to let men text me for actual communication. If you want to really connect you have to call me. Period. Anyone who tries to use text as their primary way of “making an effort “ just isn’t mature enough to be dateable for me.
[–][deleted] 17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow so true, it dawned on me that when I'd text a friend from time to time that I missed them, it doesn't hold much weight until I actually DO something about it, like send them flowers or call them. A monkey can text, and no true connection can ever be made from behind a screen.
So so true that mature adults would call regularly and meet in person, because you can't ever vet someone from texts; lots of miscommunication and misunderstanding of tone.
I love how women on FDS keeps teaching me what are true high standards and what is HVW behaviour. I've applied FDS to family and friend relationships, and it has transformed them.
[–]heythere360FDS Disciple55 points56 points57 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ladies, we gotta let go of the honeymoon phase and all the dreams and treat each day like a new one.
All human beings manipulate their image to best suit their needs. Men, particularly older men, know what’s attractive to us (pays, attentive, sensitive, fun, not jealous) and play that role to the gods.
Their mask usually falls off. Took my ex 2 years. Don’t run from it or explain it away. It’ll start to impact your mental health, sex life and self image. Walk away when it’s time.
[–]SundanceDogFDS Newbie105 points106 points107 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What he's describing isn't being emotionally weak - it's being emotionally human. What is wrong with men?
[–][deleted] 63 points64 points65 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If anything he's weak. He has to get his needs met by manipulating others. No one who is secure in themselves has to do that.
[–][deleted] 102 points103 points104 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
I already said it, but this is abuse and should be punished by the law. Period.
[–]burn_thatFDS Newbie34 points35 points36 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If he goes so far as to ask you to marry him, you can sue for Breach of Promise in some places.
I think we should make this more widespread again. Men would stop fucking around like this. Hopefully, women would also stop giving up wifey shit without expectations.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
very interesting! I can see why men making fake promises should be punished by the law also. Altough I don't think it is really possible for women to sue such men, maybe these cases are rare? (I never heard about it before!) And I agree, we shouldn't act like devoted wives without having anything in return (and of course, fake promises don't count!), it's sad to see how many young women are quick to be the "perfect girlfriend", the society's indoctrination is very strong.
[–]riricideFDS Apprentice21 points22 points23 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I was listening to a talk about trauma and the speaker said that she would call any form of lying related to sex as sexual coercion and I have to agree with her. Her point was that if you state your sexual boundaries clearly and the man pretends to respect them in order for you to consent having sex with him then what he's doing is coercion. Example- you said you're monogamous, he says he is too and you both then agree to sleep together under that assumption. But then he goes around sleeping with other women behind your back - coercion.
[–]GIfuckingJaneFDS STRATEGY COACH2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I never thought of it like this. Thank you
[–]hypointellectualFDS Newbie86 points87 points88 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
He probably can’t hold a job because he’s too busy doing this stupid shit
[–]staywiththecrownFDS Newbie37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
NO KIDDING.
They can lose their dad bods, invest, save money, level up at work, learn bow to have proper hygiene, learn to dress well, move out of their momma's house, develop hobbies that aren't porn and video games, and get degrees with all this time and effort they put into their fucking scheming and plotting!!
"But being a HVM is too much worrrrrkkk" 🙄 /s
[–]Woman_on_PauseFDS Newbie40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This person is exactly why this group exists. You can do everything right, and then BAM he dgaf and you're confused.
ughhhhhhhhhhhh
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is called love bombing and is emotional abuse which narcissists and psychopaths employ. Stay aware. These men are fucking psychos.
[–][deleted] 101 points102 points103 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
"Women with low standards ruin it for women with high standards."
[–]RiasXgremoryXFDS Disciple55 points56 points57 points 5 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. I know some women in these comments think this is fabricated and I rarely believe men on the internet myself, however there are plenty of desperate and insecure women out there who would gladly ignore red flags and give their time, bodies and their last dollar for a speck of male attention, validation and "struggle love."
[–]heythere360FDS Disciple37 points38 points39 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You don’t even have to be a pick me to do this. Thing about intentionally manipulative men, they’re very good at what they do. They’re doing a lot to make sure you stay, that’s the part he mentions but glosses over.
Similar thing happened to me but he was high value for two years. Took me two years to realize he was never reaching his past potential again.
[–][deleted] 29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You should not just not be a pickme.
Women need to actively always assume men will try to get the better of us - because they will.
[–]heythere360FDS Disciple27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I agree. My point is, even women with high self esteem and ruthless vetting practices get caught up with LVM in disguise particularly because some manipulators will put on a disguise for a couple of years before revealing themselves fully.
Even with sky high expectations all being met for years I was caught with an ungrateful bf who ended up getting lazier about hiding it stopping his low value impulses. So my point is HVW can devolve if not aware that all men can change at any point.
They don’t just trick the girls who sleep with them on the first date. They also trick girls who they waited months for committed sex and upheld all her high standards for a long time. Dudes like in the picture get bored of pick mes and go after manipulating high value women. Like you said, everyone needs to be on guard.
[–]mostdefinitelyntursFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Its the thrill of lying and they shouldn't be allowed to breathe the same air we do...
[–]RiasXgremoryXFDS Disciple12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I know, I've heard horror stories on the internet and irl about men being HV at first then changing up after a few months or even worse years later after a wedding and kids.
I feel like even with FDS, vetting, hearing good things from their family/friends, and doing a background check nothing is foolproof (especially when dealing with a narcissist or sociopath). Always expect a man to be LV until he proves otherwise regardless of good looks and high income.
Most importantly always have money saved up, and have a plan B so just in case a man does decide to drop his mask and show his true colors, you can leave the same day.
[–]thowawaywookieFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The dirt bags that suddenly leave their wife and kids after 20 years for some strange.
[–]Maude2010FDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They’re like what scabs are to unions.
[–]RabidWenchFDS Apprentice19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I prefer to see it as the women with low standards taking these douchecanoes off our hands. They get so complacent and say shit like this out loud and we can forever know that they're dog shit. Oooohh, I wonder if instead of the website that reviews men as boyfriends, we could just catalog the misogynist crap they say by screen capping, and cataloging by name. So you could search a man's name and it would bring up all the disgusting tweets or fb posts he's written.
[–]jeneprometsrienFDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
He is probably one of these men who rates women on a scale of 1-10 🤮🤮🤮
[–]mostdefinitelyntursFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And asks for their "body count." 🤮
[–]jeneprometsrienFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No doubt
[–]The_Moon_PieceFDS Newbie22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That’s what The D.E.N.N.I.S. System is, in pop culture. Sociopaths/narcissists are insidious but after you’ve cracked their code they are ridiculously predictable, it’s like they all read the same manual.
[–]MACMUAFDS Apprentice23 points24 points25 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate this guy
[–]berned-outFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Most women in domestic violence situations talk about this yo-yo of emotional abuse, which almost has to include the honeymoon phase. What's not said in the guy's comments was that he won't stop doing the yo-yo. It's implied he ditches her and moves on, but no, men hate breaking up and losing the dog they like to beat. He'll continue getting his jollies abusing her, which is textbook domestic violence dynamics. When ppl casually dismiss it as just boys being boys, they should be slapped with the reality that a fuckton of women take beatings every day in this world at the hands of these good old boys. And it's spreading because they love to share with each other what they trick women into. It's funny and a sport, all the way from just scaring your neighbor by catcalling her then chuckling with your son about it, all the way up to the collections of women's nude pics that are being catalogued. I see why cultures throughout history would send a 13 year old boy into the wilderness to become a man now. Because when you don't, they stay children forever. People decided their own kids and their own society were better off dying in the wilderness than being subjected to the eternally-pubescent male.
[–]MemberBenefitsFDS Newbie18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s life, Jim, but not as we know it.
[–]sbb1896FDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This was me as a late teen, I’m embarrassed but I have since found the light!
[–]khaleesiqwnFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. Silent treatment? I have no problem never speaking to you again. See ya.
[–]thowawaywookieFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, the older predatory creeps that go after early 20s, late teens.
[–]SnapsformeFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Ha, don't fall for that shit.
A guy I was dating for a while stood me up for a date once. I called him one time, sent him one text message asking what was up.
About 3 days later, he started texting me again and I ignored them all.
A few days after that, he shows up at my work with a bouquet and an apology. I threw that shit in the trash and told him to stop texting me. I worked at the DMV with a bunch of old ladies and they were all horrified and called me ungrateful
[–]mostdefinitelyntursFDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry Miss. Lois, I'm not interested in abuse🙄
Haha you did exactly the right thing!
[–]gcthrowaway2019FDS Apprentice13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
We not doing this anymore.
[–]NowTrulyFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
AMEN.
[–]Pyllytar39 points40 points41 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Cool story bro, but I'm positive the only woman who he has been in close proximity with is his mom.
[–]nycgirlhereFDS Apprentice[S] 48 points49 points50 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Honestly with the pickmes I can see this being reality
[–]Pyllytar26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To be honest as depressing as it sounds, you might be right...
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Straight from the horse's mouth. This is disheartening and depressing.
[–]themintmittenFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Its like these dudes have nothing else to brag about so they just brag about how shitty they are as a human being😅 A new low, thats for sure!😂
[–]mostdefinitelyntursFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine being proud that you're a LOSER! These dudes have very weird flexes. And losers like these have daughters🙄. They'll tell them that all men are dogs while simultaneously telling women not all men are like that and to "choose better." They don't want their little girls being a "ViCtIm"🥱🙄
[–]rebel4acauseFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A "HVM" can prove himself to be a LVM in seconds.
This is why you need to maintain the same full life you had when you were single and be ready to walk away at any moment.
[–]FeminineprincessThrowaway Account13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Omg, thank you loser for proving me right as to why I don’t chase after men, and don’t overreact when he leaves.
[–]-captainhookFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men love to blame women who have been abused and mistreated by saying we have bad taste, asked for it, are shallow and only attracted to asshole “Chads,” etc, but they fail to realize how many shitty, abusive men manipulate women into thinking they’re one of the good ones. Obviously, there are pickmes and women who are attracted to shitty men (but because of trauma/mental health/conditioning...no normal person wants to be treated like shit), but it’s much more common that the women are manipulated and lied to. Manipulation is textbook abusive behavior.
That’s why saying “not all men” is bullshit. Obviously not all men, but shitty men are SO common and often mask their shittiness, so we need to assume that they are like one of the shitty men (because chances are, they are) or we end up with dudes like this 🤢
[–]penelopekittyFDS STRATEGY COACH13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never think they don't know what they're doing. Fucking sociopaths.
[–]cherrypepsilvrFDS Newbie13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hey, my ex is back on Facebook.
[–]pao664FDS Newbie11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I feel sick reading that. Men are evil.
[–]mscristalconnorsFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
talking stage
An absolute NO from me. We are not going to talk. You need to invest in me from the get go. This is how I weed out dusties.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Narcissism.jpeg
He can eat shit.
[–]mostdefinitelyntursFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats ALL he deserves to eat!
[–]myousernameRuthless Strategist19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This guy is acting like he just discovered some sort of epic #relationshiphack when actually he's just describing love bombing, a tactic used by emotional abusers since the beginning of time.
[–]pizza_connoissieurFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I honestly think young ladies need to have this subreddit recommended to them. As someone that's never officially had a boyfriend, this shit hits hard. I never realized how low effort saying good morning is. I always thought it was sweet, but heck. He was low value, low effort, low everything.
Continue to glow up and become the best versions of yourselves, ladies! You deserve it and are worth it. ❤️
[–]balladwildsFDS Newbie16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is so incredibly mean and weak
[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This literally happens also just from 1 good date 😨 the bar is so low 💔
[–]hail_galaxar7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Where the hell are their moms? Are they scum bags too that it’s okay that this is what they raised? Or was their dad the one that taught them to be abusive narcissists.
[–]Dancer84839291Throwaway Account8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Holy shit I can’t believe he admitted that and posted that
[–]mostdefinitelyntursFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only thing they have is the audacity!
[–]LadyGrimesFDS Disciple6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A man can try to "pretend" to be the guy a woman is looking for but if she asks him to stop watching porn THERE is no way in hell they can pretend anymore, especially when a woman's intuition kicks in.
[–]nothingwasevertrueThrowaway Account6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What he describes is narcissist behaviour.
[–]Fetus92FDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s honestly sad that this is something he brags about. Congrats dude, you’re going to die at age 40-50 probably of liver failure because you’re also probably an alcoholic/drug addict, you’ll die alone with no one by your side and no offspring to carry on your legacy (thank god) because being a shitty human being stops working after a certain point when we all realize we don’t need to take this shit. Women are consistently evolving to become more independent and to take no shit, especially with the help of places like FDS. I see more and more women stand up for themselves and help their fellow woman stand up for herself. This mentality is pathetic, and just leads to the dude posting shit memes on facebook when he reaches his mid-late 20s about how “there’s no good women out there” “Ride or die bullshit” and eventually attention seeking posts trying to lure pickmeishas in (who all eventually level up) because no one worthwhile will give them a single ounce of attention with their meth-head demeanor and fucked teeth.
[–]LondonDaPinkFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know a guy is full of shit when he sends me good morning texts. It's extremely disingenuous, especially since we not even dating or anything.
[–]favoritesoundFDS Newbie7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Let me brag about being abusive, include a bunch of laughing emojis on it and throw it up on social media to broadcast how little self awareness and morality I have!
[–]BarbaricBlondieFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This just makes me so sad
[–]rosepinksFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is so depraved wtf.
[–]chinchaslythFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Someone has too much time in their hands.
Get a therapist and a hobby. So sad.
[–]themintmittenFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Gosh idek if a therapist could fix them😂
[–]yanyanfanFDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep Lundy says abusers end up fooling therapists too
[–]OrchidLionFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
He says as he continually chooses emotionally weak women to do this to.
Try this on one our FDS Queens and see what happens you little cvnt.
And notice how proudly he declares his psychopathy. He needs to be neutered and hanged.
[–]jenneschguetFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This. This actually happened to me twice this year, with some guys that expected me to beg and plead and ask “what happened/what is wrong?”. It’s straight out of the PUA/Red Pill handbook, and is a sign of manipulative and abusive behavior. Men get a power trip out of seeing you distraught, and glee in knowing you’ll crawl back to him and he doesn’t have to do a thing.
That’s why FDS is important: you delete and block, keeping your dignity and mental health. You don’t let someone manipulate you or rope you into “proving yourself”.
I just was told by a coworker that he and his girlfriend picked out an engagement ring. He was so excited to tell me about it. I could see that he was thinking of her the whole time he was telling me of his good news.
Night and day, ladies.
Dudes like that deserve to be tree ornaments! Let the hanging begin! Dead men can't fuck up twice! grabs popcorn
[–]Substantial-Ad-17453 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Classic perverse behavior. It’s textbook and it’s very unsettling the first time it happens to a girl. A woman wouldn’t look at them twice.
[–]starsheepieFDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Basically my ex.
[–]WeWereOkayFDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What is even the point of this? A blow job? A couple of blow jobs? Hard to see how there is any benefit in doing something like this (not that I believe this dude is telling the truth) other than to enjoy harming someone else...
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To that, I say this:
Ear shit and die, no grown ass woman wants your pathetic ass, have fun manipulating 18 year olds and being a miserable sack of shit your entire life.
Ya until I go on a date with someone else then you're gonna tell me that IM disrespectful. True story🙃🙃🙃
Thanks for telling the world that you're an insecure rapist 🙄
[–]lubabe003 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hes finding those low self esteem and desperate woman or hes a big liar.
[–]curlygirl507FDS Apprentice2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
🤮
Thanks for posting; this is extremely important
[–]GlitteringAdvice2020FDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They pull this shit you leave. They don’t get to emotionally abuse us anymore
[–]Hipster-AuroraFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This fool realized after one insecure girl let him get away with nonsense he can do it with others and thinks this somehow makes him seem like a genius to other narcs in the making.
[–]HotTrouble0FDS Newbie4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow. Just wow. This really opened my eyes.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So hold up, is it just me who can tell it’s all an act? There is no emotion behind it or authenticity, and I can sense it every time. Sociopaths like this can’t really succeed.
[–]thejigisup885 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Unfortunately they do, the world is filled with them. Its disgusting.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah sorry, that's true. I meant with me.
[–]missamourcaliAt-Risk Pick Me Youth18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
In other things that never happened, my student loans were forgiven and when I woke up today my breasts grew two cups 🙄
Whoever wrote this hasn't had oral from a biological woman since maybe that one time sophomore year and hasn't stopped obsessing over never having it again.
[–]boiledgatorade_FDS Newbie65 points66 points67 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I hate disagreeing with women on here, but I have to disagree with you. They DO this. Often. & it’s sick. I have first hand experience with my sick NVM
[–]missamourcaliAt-Risk Pick Me Youth22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. I do believe like 90% of male sexual boasting is fabricated.
Either way, it's a good lesson why you never rush into things based off a couple good months.
May your next man be the opposite :)
I wish it would be fabricated, but kinkmeishas are more common than we think sadly...
[–]boiledgatorade_FDS Newbie6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you!💕
[–]azureangel35FDS Apprentice6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ditto girl.
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[–]nycgirlhereFDS Apprentice[S] 22 points23 points24 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed! This is real life stuff even if he’s lying I have so many friends w stories with LVM who will play girls for months.
[–]Lavender_flowFDS Disciple15 points16 points17 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I can testify to this. The length these psychotic narcissists will go through truly knows no bounds. Believe me. I know one who left his wife and kid, to prove to his new girlfriend he was serious. He really didnt care and just kept on cheating like there was no tomorrow. He just wanted the price of a new younger girlfriend and fooled everyone. They will go to all lengths to get some sex and comfort.
[–]missamourcaliAt-Risk Pick Me Youth9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
This is how I react to hearing someone bragging about it. Men's egos are more sensitive than their testes.
I would definitely not try to win my man back by sucking harder. And I definitely believe those who are speaking up that they've met these kinds of lvm
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[–]missamourcaliAt-Risk Pick Me Youth14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I know a friend of a friend who hid a child porn ring from her. I totally believe you, sorry I came off as dismissive initially
[–]-badmadAMFDS Apprentice11 points12 points13 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh my, I don't trust male psychotherapists or psychologists. In my experience they just enjoy the "power" they have by seemingly knowing so much about how the human psyche works and how they can influence it. If you have a man who likes psychology, inspect very closely WHY he is so intérested in that topic.
[–]amiexistential2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
sounds like a sociopath
Ladies, we all date one of these guys at some point. That's why this type of guy likes younger women. They fall for it! Sad.
[–]monaalohaFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is exactly my ex. what an asshole. to think i was so genuine and loyal and trusted him so much. i don't get angry a lot and i rarely hate people. i don't hate him. but such an imbalance in the world, where one human can go through so much pain for no reason.. he will feel the pain. maybe not this year. but some time in his life.
[–]LevelupmamaFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow.
[–]bossbabekaren2point00 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And then you have these goofs screaming “well if she got with a good guy, she wouldn’t be treated like this!”. Disgusting.
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