Why are rates of depression so high in modern day Women?

the-lone-squid · 2022-10-30T02:36:05+00:00

Social media has given people unrealistic expectations in life

Darkalchemist999 · 2022-10-30T02:53:59+00:00

Social media and feelings of inadequacy. ‘The grass is greener’ mentality. Comparing their life to a highlight reel

SuspiciousRule · 2022-10-30T02:31:20+00:00

Life is hard. Cost of living are going up and housing unaffordable. Their societal issues at work here.

SolidPuzzleheaded984 · 2022-10-30T02:25:00+00:00

Think everyone’s getting more and more depressed.

And more likely to report it and seek help than men.

carlenvirgo · 2022-10-30T12:41:17+00:00

I’m a medical professional.. Men are less likely to seek professional help for depression so instead choose to self medicate with street drugs and alcohol. It’s not that women are more depressed than men, it’s just that they are 10x more likely to get a legal prescription.

LucyintheskyM · 2022-10-30T04:16:31+00:00

Everyone has a higher chance of clinical depression, but I think women are more likely to acknowledge and seek help for it as some men still have the social pressure of being "fine" and sucking it up.

I have depression because it's genetic. Maybe more people are living as our ability to keep kids alive grows, so it's more prevalent. Maybe because we have a social security cushion and don't have to struggle as much to eat we can put more effort towards mental health. I'm not sure if we will ever know.

tired_hillbilly · 2022-10-30T03:01:13+00:00

Casual sex and attention is never more than a swipe of an App away.

This is a bad thing. We're not meant to socialize 24/7. We need down-time, to let our dopamine receptors recover, to reflect on our day and life. A lot of people meditate, and that helps, but how much do they do it? 30-60 minutes a day? It's not enough. For most of human history, we had enormous blocks of time to introspect. Our work was mindless; knitting or swinging a hoe took minimal attention.

womandatory · 2022-10-30T12:05:07+00:00

Depression is likely higher in men, but men don’t seek help for it.

JumboJetz · 2022-10-30T02:54:03+00:00

Social media, the brutality of capitalism and what it costs to live even a mediocre life, the loss of community ties and rise of individualism in society, having to keep up the idea that they are all “strong independent women who don’t need no man” are all making women depressed. And big pharma also has incentive to classify everything as depression and women are a more receptive audience than men whom see doctors less and are socialized to be more stoic.

wtknight · 2022-10-30T03:18:06+00:00

Juggling both a career and domestic duties is stressful. Women who are single report being the happiest. Although I'm guessing that some of these women might feel like that they have unfulfilled lives, I'm guessing that their lives are not nearly as stressful and therefore their mental health is better.

2022-10-30T04:16:54+00:00

Social media and digital relationships. We are trying to substitute our needs for connection in the community digitally, mostly through text. It doesn’t work for a communal species like humans. Without it, we get depressed, unless we are wired like a hermit. Community is part of her survival DNA. Back not even 300 years ago, if you’re banished from the community, it’s a death sentence. So when you don’t have that connection, which your brain rewards you for with dopamine because it’s a need for survival, it’s no wonder you’ll get depressed.

priest-killer · 2022-10-30T02:24:34+00:00

People look for happiness in the wrong places. Rich, famous musicians contemplate suicide. If you look at the wealthiest people on the earth, you'll find their happiness levels are frequently no better than homeless folks.

In my view, the people who understand happiness best are those involved in spiritual philosophies, ranging from Taosim to Islam. Personally, I've been studying advaita vedanta (hinduism) for a while.

monkymonkk · 2022-10-30T04:14:26+00:00

Something I haven’t seen mentioned yet: romanticization of depression

This might be more common in younger women, but I definitely see a handful of women self diagnosing themselves with depression and anxiety, using it as some sort of status or symbol. As if being depressed somehow makes them more interesting or deep or special.

TheCounsellingGamer · 2022-10-30T03:44:09+00:00

As a mental health professional, I have a feeling thoughts on this.

The way we treat mental health problems has changed massively over the last 100 years. It wasn't all that long ago that you could be chucked in a psych hospital just for crying a bit too much. Women especially were subjected to diagnoses like Hysteria, for which treatments consisted of sedation, "hydrotherapy" (where you would be submerged in extremely hot water for a period of time, the immediately placed in ice water), electric shock therapy (which was more commonly given to women than men), and a "procedure" in which a doctor would forcibly masturabte the woman. If you knew all this was going to happen to you because you were sad, you'd do your very best to make sure you appeared happy. While there is still a stigma associated with mental health, we know now that the doctor isn't going to electrocute us if we reach out for help.

Also, this reduction in stigma has generally led people to be more open about their struggles. Historically depression wasn't something you talked about. You might talk about it with your spouse and maybe a very close friend, but that would be about it. It certainly wouldn't be something you'd share with anyone outside your inner circle.

Depression is a very broad diagnosis that doesn't have any clinical signs (meaning there's no objective blood test, scan, etc). If you meet the criteria then you'll be given a diagnosis of depression, but that doesn't mean the cause of your depression is the same as Joe Blogs across the street. Life is tough, we've had the threat of looming wars and climate crisis for a long time. Most people have a horrendous work life balance. So is depression nothing more than a chemical imbalance or is it more "problems of living".
While women might have more legal rights than ever before, we still face difficulties. We have a lot of pressure put on us to be perfect. If you talk too much you're a loudmouth, if you don't talk enough you're meek and boring. If you want to wait to have sex you're a prude, if you choose to have casual sex then you're a slut. If you want to focus on your career rather than having a family then you're cold and selfish, if you want to be a SAHM then you're lazy and just taking advantage of your husband. If you're assertive then you're a bitch, if you don't stand up for yourself then you're stupid. You really can't win.

There are still systematic forms of discrimination that occur to this day as well. For example my partner would never be expected to give up his career to have a child, he can have both and be celebrated for that. Yet if I say I want both, often I get comments along the lines of "you'd let strangers raise your baby?".

Physical health. The mind and body are linked, if something isn't right with your physical health it will impact your mental health. Lots of women struggle to have their pain taken seriously. Endometriosis is a condition that currently affects 1 in 10 women, but it's been theorised that as many as 4 in 10 women could have it. It's a debilitating condition where the lining of the uterus grows on other organs. It takes an average of 8 years to be diagnosed. It took me 7 years of going to the Dr, begging for help, becoming suicidal because the pain was so bad, before I found a Dr who took my pain seriously. There is no cure, minimal treatment options, and the vast majority of people have never heard of it. Female health isn't taken as seriously as it should be. Being in pain is going to affect your mental health.

I know this is a long one but I'm on annual leave from work and my power has gone out, so I'm bored.

thetruthishere_ · 2022-10-30T03:08:03+00:00

I think Drs and pharm companies push meds instead of doing internal work. My own Dr thinks meds are pushed too much.

Also women are more likely to seek help and women's hormones are a big factor.

So many shout women are on antidepressants because of career or cant find a man when so many times our hormones go out of whack and need so help regulating. Specially 40+ women going into peri meno and menopause. Its not that they are sad, our hormones are crazy and can cause depression. You can look this up.

Men dont have the whack hormones women can have.

Edit and reality some women have crazy menstrual cycles that whack them out and they need help. You men dont deal with it.

januaryphilosopher · 2022-10-30T07:21:25+00:00

The way that depression rares are high in both men and women suggests the reasons for depression rising aren't gender-specific. (It could just even be that there are more diagnoses die to increased awareness, or it could be because of changing circumstances in recent years making everyone more miserable.) I'd imagine rates remain higher for women as, although they're closer to equal now than before, we're still not there.

BlackPorcelainDoll · 2022-10-30T02:29:32+00:00

Low fitness, processed food, poor diets, unnecessary medications, neurodivergent, neuroticism, older parents, boredom, etc etc.

AstronautLoveShack · 2022-10-30T15:23:54+00:00

Filling the tank can cost upwards of $60 and you can’t afford your own apartment in your 20s or even 30s these days, you need roommates or to move back in with your parents to survive. Can’t speak for other women but moving in with my parents would definitely make me depressed.

kokorwqac · 2022-10-30T07:44:45+00:00

suicide from men's side is mostly older men

other than that, everyoenes getting more depressed

jobbo321 · 2022-10-30T14:11:11+00:00

Not enough chads to make everyone happy lol

EBZ1722 · 2022-10-30T03:00:56+00:00

Because they're finally getting the world they've wanted for the last four decades, along with all of its unintended consequences. Hopefully all of those pills and drugs can help keep up the delusion.

Kemence97 · 2022-10-30T11:07:47+00:00

Fertility problems are becoming more serious for both men and women, but for women it's worse. There are more and more women diagnosed with polycystic ovarian syndrome, insulin resitancy and other stuff, which greatly effects our cycle. Our cycle is way more instabile as it was in the previous generations, which shows that something isn't alright. You guys have the same problems. The number of young men with impotence problems is increasing, and the number and quality of the sperm cells is decreasing in all the developed world.
There are many reasons for this, but the biggest one is that we are alienated from nature. We eat procesed food, which has nothing to do with nutrients, and which are full of hormons ( there is plenty of estrogen in diary products for example, especially in the US) and other toxis shit. ANd of course, most of our jobs are pointless, unracional which makes us even more depressed, and we can't connect to others, because there is too much impulse from everywhere.

AngelCrumb · 2022-10-30T16:19:12+00:00

Western society is extremely individualist to the point we shove our elders in homes where they often die alone and afraid. We are filled with micro plastics and forever chemicals, most youth will not be able to buy property, they will not even escape debt. We are more removed from nature too and our food is becoming more unhealthy so is the water. We work longer hours than feudal serfs. There is no meaning to life anymore, no adventure or mystery, no improvement in qualify of life for our kin.

2022-10-30T16:49:31+00:00

Everyone is depressed in my opinion because the economy is shit. Generally speaking, when the economy isn't that well, happiness ratings are low. We still haven't recovered from the crash of 2008.

Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 · 2022-10-30T16:52:20+00:00

Personally as a woman I've never been on antidepressants, nor thought of sucide. So I can't relate. I've got it pretty good in life.

Now if you do your research. Women that were Housewives back in the '50s and 60s where addicted to Quaaludes and valiums, it was known as the housewife drugs. Cause they were depressed over their lives.

I think women have always reported their mental illness, stresses, anxiety more to doctors, because they just go to doctors more often than the average men. Men on the other hand are stubborn ,and have this mentality of they can handle it all themselves until they can't handle it. Most men don't even go to the doctors until after they've had their first heart attack.

Now on the other hand my stepfather attempted sucide twice ,and my brother walked in saving him from following through with hanging himself. However eventually he died of lung cancer.

Aromatic_Shop9033 · 2022-10-30T02:38:10+00:00

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howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2022-10-30T03:45:55+00:00

Any piece of self doubt is viewed as a mental problem. We aren't supposed to feel confident in all situations or like every single thing about ourself.

EmeraldsFaure · 2022-10-30T04:59:41+00:00

Too much self-diagnoses (aided by social media) of anxiety/ depression along with more uncommon types of mental illness such as dissociative identity disorder. A push by society to medicalize all negative experiences or feelings as part of the constellation of psychiatric symptoms. People are not encouraged to effectively cope with life stressors or even milestone life events. On the contrary, people are taught that negative emotions/ feelings/ thoughts are unhealthy signs of underlying disorders.

It doesn’t help that we’re told to be happy or perpetually seek happiness. But being perpetually happy is not possible. How do we know and experience what happiness is, if we’re happy all the time? That is not an optimal mindset. A better state of being is contentment.

But overall, first-world societies and especially the US, the trend of medicalizing aspects of human emotions is a troubling one. Everything could be seemingly explained away or redefined under the general umbrella of mental health. It’s a dangerous slippery slope that paradoxically engenders more misery. I’m saying this as someone who works in psych/ mental health.

AngelCrumb · 2022-10-30T09:23:05+00:00

I just think poor mental health in general among women and men is a byproduct of a continually stretched and struggling global economy, particularly when it comes to the distribution of wealth. We get a lot less bang for our buck compared to 60 years ago when people could generally afford a home in their 20s on a single income with a relatively stable job for life. Young people en mass are now struggling to afford their first homes on dual income (obviously this will vary depending on where you’re from) but I will say that both myself and my sister and our partners are within the top 15% earning bracket in the UK and are only just being able to afford a mortgage half way through our 30s. There are a myriad of reasons why this is happening with post gen x generations but the fact is it affects everyone’s mental health because they were brought up on boomer , ‘work hard get your house and settle down’ logic and it just never happened that way.

teetootom · 2022-10-30T02:26:52+00:00

Honestly I don’t see it brought up often on this sub, but the psychological impact of the looming climate crisis has been extremely difficult for me and I think many others.

I’m not having kids not because of it. Not because I think the world is gonna end in 50 years, but because I think you will need to be wealthy to be able to move to/have access to clean water and air, nutritious food, a climate you can go outdoors in. And that’s hard, I wanted kids.

Moon-on-my-mind · 2022-10-30T05:28:14+00:00

Woman here, I struggled for 15 damn years , alone in my mental struggle. My parents generation and some of their kids have this dumb mentality of just " therapy and psych is for the weak or crazy that cannot control their mind" i suffered in silence for 15+ years untill a few years ago i said fuck my husband and my family's views, i need answers. So i consulted with psych and therapy, in secret. After months of assessing me, my anxiety and my suicidal obsession, they BOTH agreed medication might be needed. Me forcing myself to live and breathe just so my mom won't be devastated is not humane.

I kept on with the treatments in secret..no one knew, they praised me for being much better overall. I still have no support since i tell no one. My husband has an actual disgust for people that suffer from mental illnesses....even though he is one of the people who got me inch close to jumping from 10th floor.

We are raised to be pleasant, quiet, complient, be the force that pushes your man up high. Say anything else and we are seen as emotional, hormonal, PMSing and any other such type of bullshit. Ive had my hormones checked left right and center, regularly, because it's what we have to do, nothing abnormal came up.

And for all the lil ones not understanding how on earth can we be depressed when we ca have all the chads and other dumb crap...no m8, idgaf about sex and men in general because throughout my life I've met enough inept selfish lovers that i have resorted to my toys for pleasure. And i have a high libido which would be great, but it gets satisfied by toys. I don't look for a man's compliment or approval because i know they will say anything to get some from me. Spare me. Men's approval and validation is null and should be null to a woman, because remember, they will actually say anything to get in your pants.

The reasons my depression started and tortured me ever since i was young was due to boys/men on my life. My dad is a really bad parent that fucked me up, boys harassed me, in school i was touched and harassed all the time, teased for having a woman's body. Creeps with their dicks out in the park asking us to come over and play. The list is way way bigger. But as one can imagine it truly fucks with you.

And so this is also my main out of many reasons i will not have kids. I met some that found their mother dead when they were kids and they are broken human beings. I refuse to put my hypothetical kids through that.

But remember, the golden rule as a woman, don't you dare complain, you have it too good. Smile more. You live life on easy mode. You can have any guy you want at a swipe notice. Don't be emotional /s

handsanitizer-- · 2022-10-30T02:31:16+00:00

Men's sex obsession makes the world a boring/depressing place lmao

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hungrychick404 · 2022-10-30T07:30:39+00:00

I don’t think I would personally be depressed in some vegan commune or non religious Amish community.

Caffeine is the most popular drug. Most people have to go out of their way to get exercise in rather than it being built into their day naturally. People are more mobile and less likely to build a community. Some people don’t have time with work to build a community where they live.

A lot of people don’t feel like they have purpose or value outside of their jobs, if they find purpose in their work at all. COVID also had an impact on mental health, and I think people who followed guidelines more closely were more likely to have bad mental health than people who didn’t quarantine. Women apparently followed lockdown rules more often than men. Men and women have jobs these days, but women still spend more time on household tasks than men.

I think the decline in religion could have affected mental health too. Churchgoers usually can have a bit of a built in community with people who share the same values and go to the same place every week.

The internet can also harm mental health. People can compare themselves to others, and women are generally valued for our appearance more, so a lot of women and girls can get body issues from the internet and things like pro-ana are unfortunately pushed in some corners. The internet can also be a bit addictive, so that can cause actual harm to some people’s lives.

There are plenty of reasons someone might be depressed these days. Sometimes it’s the stress of modern life, sometimes something happened in their personal life that triggered an episode, or sometimes people are predisposed to it. Like others are saying, women are generally more likely to seek help than men. If someone is depressed single, they’re likely going to be depressed in a relationship. Your relationship status doesn’t automatically improve your mental health.

Early-Christmas-4742 · 2022-10-30T08:09:56+00:00

They have better support networks than men, but i'd imagine still less that in previous generations. Also previous generations had a lot of untreaded depression.

AntiHypergamist · 2022-10-30T13:46:47+00:00

Social media and education. Educated people are more depressed. It’s universal for men and women.

anonymous-platypus1 · 2022-10-30T15:33:23+00:00

I feel like rates of depression were always high, it’s just more talked about now. Women used to be considered “hysterical” and everything they did was attributed to “feminine issues”. I think mental health is being taken more seriously now, and perhaps highlighting the issues of both modern living and the traditional lifestyle. The latter of which is isolating to women.

Oli_love90 · 2022-10-30T17:01:40+00:00

I wish guys would just stop acting like casual sex and attention from a bunch of men who see you only as a hole is comforting in any way, shape or form. When someone is depressed they would like someone to care for them. A random man summoned online does not care about you, does not care about your pleasure, could have an std they’re not telling you about, pregnancy could occur. All of these factors will fuck you up if you’re not mentally in a good place. At my lowest I actually avoid dating apps because of the toll they’ll take on my mental well being. Women tell men on here this all the time yet they refuse to believe it. Don’t come at me with “Atleast you have attention”, drop that line of thinking.

Women, like men are on the same earth experiencing the same events. Pandemics, war, stagnant wage growth, inflation, climate issues, social media (and all its bullshit) and so much more. Its a stressful environment to exist in and hard to handle for any human.

TankieSappho · 2022-10-30T18:01:43+00:00

I think it is just the fact women are more likely to report and talk about their mental illnesses.

yohanya · 2022-10-30T18:33:44+00:00

Hormone imbalances. Our diets are poison, our water is poison, our lifestyles are sedentary, then you add hormonal birth control into the mix. I mean there are plenty of other factors but hormone imbalances are a huge one I suspect

sidforever · 2022-10-30T18:43:50+00:00

Misogyny

RocinanteCoffee · 2022-10-30T20:23:56+00:00

Woman on the other hand have seemingly never had it so good. At least in the west.

Do you not see what's happening in the US? Sure women have it better than less developed countries in many ways (though not in maternal death rate or in some cases poverty) but freedoms and control over one's body is being taken away.

Imagine you just got free from your rapist and find yourself pregnant and with cancer. Your doctor can deny you cancer meds and your rapist can take a $10,000 bounty on you and have you arrested if they accuse you of trying to end the pregnancy.

lord_of_memezz · 2022-10-31T01:17:33+00:00

They have been forced fed social media

Aromatic_Shop9033 · 2022-10-30T04:12:36+00:00

Here we go...

I think it's because we all are resisting and suppressing the natural order of things at every level.

Staying single, not having a family, you can do it...but there is a cost, often paid when it's too late to change one's mind.

F-um · 2022-10-30T07:51:37+00:00

Women are naturally more neurotic than men so that explains why it's higher in women. - Because evolution, women have babies, men fight and work to look after wife and babies. You can't fight and work as well as if you are a neueotic mess, you also can't mother as well but there's less male ancestors than female ancestors if you understand what I mean.

Why depression rates are higher in the modern world is a complex question:

Decline in religiosity.

Sterilisation and pollution of the environment has killed microorganisms which aid our survival and boost mood.

Capitalism makes you miserable by selling you a cure for something which wasn't a problem in the past.

Hyper-awareness of inadequacies due to social media.

Etc etc.

Censoredv2 · 2022-10-30T02:35:11+00:00

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ass-thetics · 2022-10-30T03:53:04+00:00

They have all been hurt by men at some point. Sure, they have casual sex, but that implies that the men they are seeking get it too, and end up not committing. They end up settling for men they don't love and it makes them depressed.

Illustrious-Line-996 · 2022-10-30T04:33:23+00:00

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_demidevil_ · 2022-10-30T10:54:55+00:00

I blame capitalism.

monkymonkk · 2022-10-30T03:35:01+00:00

Birth control

Five_Decades · 2022-10-30T04:40:33+00:00

People have always been depressed, its just that now we have treatments for it.

Siukslinis_acc · 2022-10-30T08:20:23+00:00

Social and global media increased the social preassure that is put on people.
People realise that wat was deemed normal at that time is actually bad. aka, people didn't knew better.
Instead of getting sexually harrased by people in your vicinity, now you get sexually harrased by hundreds-thousands of people from all over the world. And you can't escape it without going away from the internet completely as the internet is needed to do everyday stuff.
Women are now taken a bit more serious, so their depressions are taken seriously and not dismissed as "it's normal for a woman to feel this way". So yeah, people tend to come out more about their mental illness when it is not dismissed or shunned (like people saying that one is a bad mother, but in truth the mother got postpartum depression, so when mental health problems are boing made aware, she might actually get help and not be accused of doing a bad job).

Snekky3 · 2022-10-30T12:26:11+00:00

Capitalism

Gilmoregirlin · 2022-10-30T05:29:21+00:00

As a woman who works in a male dominated field (law) the reason I think and the reasons I have read most sited is that although women have advanced career wise men have not advanced in coparenting and many women feel if they give away too much parenting to their spouse they are bad Moms. So even in homes with two working individuals (which most families have to do today) women still do most child rearing . If kid gets sick woman leaves work etc even if she is the primary breadwinner. But I also think social media portraying perfect moms puts pressure on Moms. Plus women seek help and are less ashamed about getting meds or counseling. Men feel shame. So so many men need meds but won’t take them.

Haunting_Afternoon62 · 2022-10-30T06:22:04+00:00

Social media, comparing self to others, and let's be honest we are probably fooling ourselves. All I ever wanted was a husband and a bunch of kids. As i got older, and more distracted by shiny ball syndrome, I want different things. But do I really? Or have I been brainwashed? It's just, the risk is too high. Men and their values have changed as well. We are all hurt and isolated or putting everyone on rotation. All we care about is looks. We are over stimulated and everything is meaningless.

Ganajin · 2022-10-30T21:43:27+00:00

Women have always suffered more depression and anxiety, due to hormones.

Warm_Gur8832 · 2022-10-30T02:49:09+00:00

Because they’ve been working hard for centuries to make things better for themselves and yet are losing long-held rights while other people call them thots and hoes, then bitch on here about not getting laid or having to cope with the absolute travesty of listening to a female sports announcer on TV.

GloryToChadlantis · 2022-10-30T02:41:26+00:00

Feminism

Bekiala · 2022-10-30T03:28:53+00:00

I would think it is tough to know if the rates are higher or if it is being diagnosed more often.

Also, of course, it is debatable how many women are into casual sex as well as how many women have strong emotional support systems.

Mindless-Spare-2454 · 2022-10-30T07:06:15+00:00

Because social media, influencers & reality Tv stars told women that being a “boss bitch” and fully independent would give them this amazing life.

However what they didn’t tell women was that it’s actually fucking hard to build successful businesses or empires. That the wage scale for women is £28-35k in the Uk, if you decided not to have your own business but have a career you would be competing with hyper successful men who are willing to trade their social life for huge wage, and the cherry on top with the cost of living going up, just to survive will take 75% of your money.

bottleblank · 2022-10-30T13:42:03+00:00

Perhaps it would help them feel a little better if we didn't constantly claim that 50% of the population are violent killers seeking to abuse and murder any and all women.

Wouldn't hurt men's mental health to stop doing that too, but I think it's pretty bloody obvious that constantly running high pressure campaigns about women being in permanent mortal danger is going to cause some additional fear and anxiety.

BurnDownTheMission68 · 2022-10-30T15:27:32+00:00

Alpha Widows. They had to settle for a beta chump but can’t forget about the more masculine men who rocked her world during her Ho Phase.

BigOleGreenTrees · 2022-10-30T04:05:25+00:00

Women are just more likely to talk about their feelings and encouraged to get healthcare. Many men see therapy as weak and call it dumb or pointless, it literally gets posted in the community chat thread so much. I think many men are suffering from depression and can't even recognize it.

Ultimately, depression is a first world problem. If you really want to understand why I think that's at its core, but I don't think there has been any proven single cause of depression. Probably better subreddits to ask a question that deep.

KombuchaEnema · 2022-10-30T03:12:34+00:00

More access to mental healthcare.

More women have access to Google, so self-diagnosis is at an all-time high. All you have to do is go to a doctor, answer “yes” to the right questions on a form, and you’re diagnosed with depression.

Also, all these little pictograms and cute memes on Facebook like “less common signs that you have depression!”

Small, close-knit communities are largely being replaced by large cities where you’re citizen #43327.

So on and so forth.

FRlEND_A · 2022-10-30T07:42:27+00:00

because men are hating on us more :(

Diamond-Breath · 2022-10-30T11:32:47+00:00

Because they're still fulfilling their traditional gender role while working on top of that and being a "girl boss". We're not Wonder Woman, men leave everything regarding housework and child-rearing to their spouses while claiming 50/50. I've seen women dying of heart attacks because they literally did everything for their family and the man didn't step up before it was too late.

gymbro718NYC · 2022-10-30T12:36:17+00:00

I think you suffer from women are wonderful syndrome. You look at a woman and think "okay, she's hot, her life must be a dream, she must get everything she wants, she has it all figured out, rainbows coming out of her ass, perpetual bliss, even Nirvana".

But that's just your projection. The same way a woman can project on you and think "it must be so awesome to be a man. Have muscles, be respected by other men, never get periods or cramps or have your biological clock ticking. Just go in the world and achieve whatever you want without being judged or shamed, not having your mom tell you you need to settle and have kids, not having other people make comments about your single status or treat you like a second class citizen".

See, it goes both ways.

Willow-girl · 2022-10-31T12:38:43+00:00

Nowadays, a woman has to be a woman, and half of a man.

Men get to be half of a man.

nemma88 · 2022-10-30T08:24:05+00:00

Just to separate historical trends, male suicide rates have been decreasing in the UK for 40 years. They're higher than women's, but that has always been true.

medlabunicorn · 2022-10-30T09:07:30+00:00

Same reason men are more depressed: less community, more responsibility, more difficulty fulfilling that responsibility.

ToBeFair91 · 2022-10-30T10:00:59+00:00

Mainly social media, women respond differently to that sort of exposure imo

forwhenimd3pressed · 2022-10-30T10:28:49+00:00

I think it’s a big misconception that if you go out and party / have a social life, and have a job with good pay means you can’t be depressed. social media has caused women (and men) to have unrealistic expectations of life. the fact that it’s also full of young teens who are unfortunately easily swayed and vulnerable means more and more people are just growing up depressed and lacking self esteem. i do think a big part of it is that women are more open about their mental health because there’s a weird stigma around men being freely emotional. they do tend to hide it or push it aside a lot more than women, generally.

2022-10-30T10:43:46+00:00

I'm not sure if mental health issues have increased, they're just reported more.

We know that social isolation leads to depression, so that definitely a huge factor today.

potiondrinkeronline · 2022-10-30T13:19:06+00:00

Idk man I literally just have clinical depression :-(

urukshai3 · 2022-10-30T14:13:29+00:00

Seems like people love to say it is men's fault but women's mental illness is men's fault or social media or other shit.

The pattern is clear: men are still seen as responsible for everyone else even women having power.

ImogenCrusader · 2022-10-30T14:20:11+00:00

It's almost like having it good doesn't eliminate the possibility of having poor self image, self loathing, or simply wacky hormones.

My mom used to tell me there were kids starving in Africa, so I had no right to be depressed, and yet shockingly that only made my depression worse not better.

Don't be like my mom. Women are depressed because of all sorts of reasons, from environment to hormonal, and just because their lot has improved doesn't lessen those reasons.

It's like saying black people shouldn't be depressed because they're not slaves anymore.

2022-10-30T14:40:23+00:00

Why are rates of depression so high in modern day Women?

Mental illness is contagious. It's only going to get worse.

Laytheblameonluck · 2022-10-30T14:47:13+00:00

Andrew Tate must be really getting to them.

beleidigtewurst · 2022-10-30T16:18:16+00:00

Because mainstream theories fantasized by feminist circles are laughably bad.

I mean, look at the data at hand

Sweden has less women in STEM than Saudi Arabia or Iran.

goathunter05 · 2022-10-30T17:20:17+00:00

Phones

thetruth19023 · 2022-10-30T17:31:47+00:00

In my opinion.... The FOOD

The nutritional mineral and chemical compositions of our foods have so radically changed in the last 50 years that they are almost entirely and completely uneditable and undigestible and the side effects of eating those foods we will see for generations

And while this has affected both females and males it is especially detrimental on the female system as it is far more complex and sensitive to environmental and chemical changes

the-aids-bregade · 2022-10-30T18:53:15+00:00

theres more to be depressed about 200 years ago all you had was an abusive partner and racism

HaymakerGirl2025 · 2022-10-30T19:28:05+00:00

Totally true on women. Society has fed them the lie that they can have it all, and that they should be strong, in-your-face, and not give AF. This attitude fails them over and over again, but they don’t know how to change it.

tonyghow · 2022-10-30T19:44:24+00:00

Maybe the pills have allowed women to clear their minds and improve themselves to where they are now? (/s) 😬

Ok-Cupcake-2854 · 2022-10-30T22:43:14+00:00

society has lied to them and now they realize it

insertcredit2 · 2022-10-31T12:01:16+00:00

Turns out being a wage slave isn't all that fun. Yes for the top women with high flying careers it's working out well but for the vast majority of women it's just about managing in a job that you don't enjoy and where men are either fuck bois or man children who don't want to care for you and certainly aren't capable of being fathers in your eyes.

Emulating men's lives isn't that great.

Stunning-Potato-1984 · 2022-10-31T13:14:52+00:00

It's an always was kinda thing. Now it's just being diagnosed and treated.

A lot of depression isn't clinical though, it's situational.

daddysgotanew · 2022-10-31T16:40:32+00:00

Social media/FOMO/Disney fantasy (Chad is out there somewhere waiting to commit to me, he just hasn’t found me yet in my 30 years on earth!)

Access to birth control (fucks up hormones)

Being told they need to be more like men, accomplish everything men do, or better yet, just outperform men entirely both socially and career-wise; THEN become a woman when you’re 40 and finally hit six figs and have a house and savings and the BMW X7 and 3 kids etc….but unfortunately biology (and men’s desires) ain’t work like that….

Why are rates of depression so high in modern day Women?

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The effect was in full swing way before social media.

Sweden has less women in STEM than Saudi Arabia or Iran.

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