Should have known better, but I wanted her to understand what she was really saying.

Volcris · 2013-06-10T04:54:15+00:00

my favorite line is at the end "I'm not "playing" a victim, I AM a victim to this Patriarchal BULLSHIT".

Feminism level up, permanent victim status achieved.

ExiledSenpai · 2013-06-10T05:05:27+00:00

Yeah, actually, I have been denied a job because of my gender. Ever try to get work at a daycare as a man? Fucking impossible.

Kuonji · 2013-06-10T03:52:03+00:00

Let me attempt to sum up the conversation:

Feminist: The concept of Mens' Rights is ridiculous

OP: Both men and women have issues they face and both are worthy of consideration and discussion.

Feminist(s): STOP RAPING US. STOP RAPING US. STOP RAPING US. STOP RAPING US.

Leinadro · 2013-06-10T02:56:38+00:00

If Pink and Yellow were on Blue's friend list then Blue needs to make room for two new friends.

FailingItUp · 2013-06-10T04:03:02+00:00

Little bit of background: Pink was the original poster, who is an uncloseted lesbian, but up to this point hadn't shown any signs of man-hate, she'd been a pretty cool person. Yellow is her SO.

Tomdowney · 2013-06-10T02:43:44+00:00

Wow, just wow. Being on the attack while using victimhood as a weapon. I would love to see where women are paid less than me because they are women. Geez, I've dated just as many women that make more than me as ones that make less. I work with 5 women that all make more than me, so how much more should I give to make it equal? = is =

DeanOnFire · 2013-06-10T04:26:08+00:00

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turk1559 · 2013-06-10T03:58:53+00:00

Not to worry hombre. Any rational person, male or female, will see that this chick is full of shit and clearly lost the argument quite early on.

supergregx2 · 2013-06-10T03:31:00+00:00

Can you say crazy? Absolutely refused to listen to any kind of reasoning

Acaroid · 2013-06-10T05:09:02+00:00

That line "women are capable of everything a man is- including prejudiced" sums up everything, it is a marvellous.

Jesus_marley · 2013-06-10T03:35:01+00:00

All I saw from Pink and yellow was a retreat into religious doctrine. No attempt was made to address what blue stated other than to launch into a tirade, practically quoting chapter and verse from the Holy book of Feminism.

TheAlphaRanger · 2013-06-10T04:28:23+00:00

Looks like we have a medal winner in the Oppression Olympics 2013.

SheepInWolvesClothin · 2013-06-10T05:20:35+00:00

So first she just started off as ignorant, then she dipped into crazy at the end. I am a man, and I am a victim.... not to this notion that society looks at me poorly for my gender (which they do), but because I was actually victimized.

I was disabled an unable to walk at all for months. The person I trusted to take care of me would beat me regularly. She once beat me because I didn't want to have sex with her, and so I continued to have a sexual relationship with her out of fear of being beaten again. I couldn't tell my friends about what was going on, because she'd read over my shoulder if I was writing an email, or listening in if I was making a call. After I threw her out, she then told everyone in my social circle that I was emotionally and sexually abusive towards her and would email any girl I tried to date for the next year to try and 'warn' them about me. No, she was never my girlfriend.

THAT is what being a victim is like. Oh, some people look at you funny? Some men tell crass jokes about your gender? Boo hoo woman tears. Put on your fucking big girl panties and figure out that blaming everyone else for your shortcomings just makes you a vindictive little shrew. People are dicks. They'll pick on your gender because it clearly gets a rise out of you. Calling yourself a 'victim' because of gender bias, and then claiming that men can't feel the same thing, makes you the sexist one. And maybe you should consider that the reason why people treat you like shit is not because of your gender, but rather because you act like a cunt.

You're not a victim for being born female. You're a victim when you're actually victimized. Before you go pointing fingers at an entire demographic of people, stop and think about who's actually looking down on whom, and let the actual victims of the things you're so scared of get a voice.

giegerwasright · 2013-06-10T04:08:27+00:00

"gender-queer female" Top fucking lel.

Amerigo_ · 2013-06-10T02:49:51+00:00

Cringed reading those awfully moronic comments! Your whole status was derailed. Time to gather your things and start another status with the hopes and aspirations of more intelligent responses.

dperry3 · 2013-06-10T03:40:42+00:00

Some people just want to watch the world burn.

IndyDude11 · 2013-06-10T04:17:18+00:00

The best advice I've seen on here to deal with back and forths like this is to just directly ask them how gender discrimination has affected them personally. Most won't have an answer.

Wheels279 · 2013-06-10T04:35:25+00:00

Oh my gosh.... I think I'm slightly nauseous. And to think I wondered why Feminists get a bad rap.

Mrmojoman0 · 2013-06-10T15:52:07+00:00

i like to roshambo in these situations. "you say the few greatest issues regarding women's rights still present in western civilizations"

they will usually be like "MEN RAPE WOMEN (with some lame 1/4 women are raped figure), MEN GET PAID MORE, MEN GET ALL THE GOOD JOBS"

to which i say "that is a strong biased claim about males, as well, you are likely citing rape statistics that would either show

A. similar numbers when males are asked the same questions. B. weren't asked to males purely due to the fact that the agenda was not to gain information and learn what the situation is, but to provide information that would look good along with their already decided outcome. provide me a study, and if i cannot show it to be invalid, then i may pay attention to your claim.

the concept of men getting paid more as well as men getting "the good jobs" have largely been debunked. there is no lack of opportunity for women. there are more women in college and university than men, and they have absolute ability to get into engineering and physics classes, but for some reason you find the high female populations in classes like "liberal arts" and "women's studies." there is above equal opportunity for women, but you need to take female's choices into account. as well, part of the gap comes from the same place as the facts that men make up over 90% of workplace deaths, that women have great access to maternity leave, and other issues.

now, to contrast with the "non-existent men's issues". men get on average 63% longer jail time on average for the same crimes as women.

if women were being discriminated against so blatantly that they received 63% more punishment than men, it would be the most prominent issue within the women's rights movement.

additionally, men make up almost half of domestic abuse victims in canada. yet there are near 600 domestic abuse shelters for women, and none for men. if there was this blatant ignoring of issues and safety of women within modern society, again, it would be the most prevalent issue within the women's rights movement at present time. especially if there was blatant shaming of the victims in areas that they may try to find help.

if you think there has been the long-standing view that men oppress women and value themselves over women, remember, the concept of "women and children first" doesn't come from the lives of men being more valuable than women.

KRosen333 · 2013-06-10T04:17:15+00:00

dude, just get the fuck off facebook.

2013-06-10T05:47:00+00:00

This post.. Struck so many damn chords I'm shaking with anger.

Bohica69 · 2013-06-10T14:11:13+00:00

She's stupid, narcissistic, histrionic and generally delusional. You wasted your time.

jollygnome123 · 2013-06-10T14:59:49+00:00

“To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.” ― Thomas Paine, The American Crisis

giegerwasright · 2013-06-10T04:12:37+00:00

Dear genderqueer people:

Please stop appopriating trans* struggles. People are not killing you in the streets and barring you from housing and jobs. You have it the easiest of any of those who identify under the trans umbrella, and you should know your place. DO NOT try and say you are discriminated against as a trans person by playing the cis chit. Please note that these things (mentioned in the fb post) overwhelmingly happen to MtF's of color, not genderqueers who are assigned female at birth. If you are not transitioning to the opposite your birth gender, and you are simply a very androgynous person, your kind are not being discriminated against to any serious degree, and, in fact, your look is actually en vogue right now.

Thanks, and please fuck off,

- A transsexual person.

P.S. I'm white, and young, so I don't have to deal with a lot of that stuff either. At least I can admit it.

AlexReynard · 2013-06-10T04:42:04+00:00

When you challenge someone's belief, and their response is to angrily shame you for doing so, chances are they're full of shit. When I know I'm right about something and someone says I'm wrong, my first impulse is to bury them in evidence and logical arguments.

smeissner · 2013-06-10T05:48:22+00:00

I laugh when I see people like her misuse what she thinks is fact. Just a fun fact about women earning less..There was a study some years back about the majority of women taking positions like nurses and teachers and less as engineers and scientists. They seem to choose these positions because of their enjoyment and fulfillment in nurturing.

With that being said that women is bat shit crazy.

elmariachi304 · 2013-06-10T11:14:18+00:00

You can't reason someone out of a position they didnt reason themselves into.

2013-06-10T14:09:53+00:00

I recently had someone personally ridicule me for my criticism of the unfair custody/child support status quo telling me that I hate women.

I was raised by amazing women and I'm raising a daughter myself. 2 Why the overwhelming need on the part of some women to deny that there are circumstances where it hurts your chances to be a man? It's so strange. Makes no sense to me.

Real equality requires fairness, sharing, and compromise, and there seems to be an odd strain of feminism out there that sees fairness and compromise as theft or attack.

The good part was that several friends who are mothers themselves chimed in to defend me and to criticize this crazy woman. At least there's that.

Thisismynetlife · 2013-06-10T14:32:12+00:00

People who regurgitate these shitty buzzwords are already beyond common sense. Don't even bother.

Always_Doubtful · 2013-06-10T03:10:38+00:00

ALot of women don't understand the history of human issues. Men earned the right to vote due to war. Women were GIVEN the right to vote without actually earning it through service.

Women hold a political majority (its about 60% female due to the last US presidental election, and its 45-55% i believe in canada for women)

I love the fact she uses the paygap which has been debunked many times before. Women are not oppressed in the US and have as much opportunity as men in north america. She probably applied for a job but then lost out due to a better qualified male. I get rejected by better qualified women and i don't complain.

rbcrusaders · 2013-06-10T07:12:50+00:00

These are the ones attempting to fight to change the 'discrimination'. Children.

If this is how they act, then I can see why they are 'oppressed'. But not because they are women ; because they are immature brats.

ragext8gb · 2013-06-10T07:53:57+00:00

I'm not playing the victim, I AM a victim

Classic.

drplump · 2013-06-10T14:19:07+00:00

I wish there was a website you could send things "feminist told you" and then have the feminist community as a whole either except that as their view or reject it openly and publicly. I see a lot of feminist get stuck in a trap of trying to explain how X view is not an accepted mainstream feminist view. It seems like this website could be a powerful tool in prevention of these misconceptions.

On the other end it would also help in these kind of situations. If it was not an actual accepted feminist view you could tell this woman that her view is not accepted by feminism or if it was an accepted femisnt view you could tell some user in the reddit comments that yes this is in fact the mainstream accepted view on the rights of men when they try to claim it isn't.

matt_512 · 2013-06-10T05:28:01+00:00

Being a men's rights activist is like explaining the risks of choking to someone who is starving to death.

Let me fix that.

Being a men's rights activist is like trying to get help for the person who is choking but running into feminists screaming "Shut the fuck up can't you see we have someone starving over here?"

CedarWolf · 2013-06-10T06:54:22+00:00

Dear /r/MensRights,

I'm genderqueer. Please do not judge us all on the excerpts of one person's anger on facebook; it is neither a fair nor an appropriate depiction. I can't speak for every genderqueer person, but most of the genderqueer people I've met and know are quite reasonable. We're all just trying to make it through this crazy world, same as every other human being on our little blue marble.

Admittedly, I'm assuredly biased because many of these people are dear to my heart, they may have flaws that I do not readily see because of my affection. Genderqueer people as a whole run a remarkably varied gamut of social positions, racial backgrounds, and economic roles. Sometimes it can be hard to tell, and far be it from me to attempt to "judge" whether another person is genderqueer or not. It is not my place to define another human or assign them a label.

I cannot speak for all genderqueer people; but I can speak for myself. I'm dual gender, and functionally that means my gender has a somewhat unpredictable habit of sliding about between male and female. Practically, this means that about half the time I'm riding around in a body that isn't suited to who I am, and unfortunately this often feeds my depression. It's dangerous to be who I am, and I worry about that sometimes. Sometimes it makes me feel socially expendable. Society seems to say that I'm not good enough to be a regular man, and I don't make a very good woman, either.

Left with little other option, I can only be myself and do the best I can.

Perhaps it's not a life I would have chosen, sometimes it's not something I would wish on my worst enemy, but I'm along for the ride and sometimes it's also kind of fun and liberating. Like anything else, being genderqueer has it's ups and downs. I consider myself an egalitarian because I feel I can afford the perspective to see where people get shafted by their gender roles. I believe that people should be free and equal to be themselves, as long as they aren't harming other people.

I try to walk in balance. I try to maintain my patience and work on self improvement in the places where I can do so. Sometimes I fail, and sometimes I don't quite reach the standard I hold myself to... sometimes I don't work as hard as I expect from myself. I try to improve things as much as I can, anyway. I try to leave things a little better than I found them.

I'm living in a world that doesn't seem to notice people like me exist, so I try to advocate for progress. I write letters to newspapers about gender equality. I write letters to politicians about LGBTQ rights and issues. I ardently hope that pushing for equality will help me in the long run. Recently my state's budget included a paragraph that prohibits coed housing on one of our universities... unfortunately, this also spells the death of their gender-neutral housing facility and many of the student protections we've fought for the last decade to achieve. Progress being written away by a politician's pen...

Again, I cannot speak for all genderqueer people, but I can speak for myself. If you have questions, please feel free to ask. I'm always open to PMs, and I'm happy to chat about almost anything. Thank you for your time.

~ CedarWolf

johnny_gunn · 2013-06-10T04:39:50+00:00

Why are you friends with these people?

librtee_com · 2013-06-10T11:04:52+00:00

Oh dear. And when this woman gets turned down for job after job, I'm sure she's going to blame it wholly on 'cis-gender discrimination.'

This was really a particularly ugly display.

These foolish women here are their own worst oppressors.

MS2point0 · 2013-06-10T05:03:15+00:00

It seems as though Valerie Solanas woke up from the dead and made 2 facebook accounts.

strongscience62 · 2013-06-10T06:56:05+00:00

Straight out of Tumblr

idv · 2013-06-10T07:18:47+00:00

she made zero fucking sense.

kickrox · 2013-06-10T08:03:18+00:00

Sometimes I wish people wouldn't block out these peoples names.

theskepticalidealist · 2013-06-10T13:10:34+00:00

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BringTheStealth · 2013-06-10T15:00:39+00:00

Wut.

theskepticalidealist · 2013-06-10T05:21:51+00:00

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SpanishGuy · 2013-06-10T05:50:37+00:00

Regarding their apparent lack of rational thinking, there is a concept in psychiatry/neurology that explained in a easy and simplistic way goes more or less this way:

The amygdalae is one of the most primitive parts of our brain. "Primitive" as in developed early throughout evolution of species. Other parts are more "recent" (that's in terms of many, many thousands years).

Among other things, the amygdalae deals mainly with emotional reactions, and has a high priority so to speak. That region of the brain triggers the fight or flight response as a very fast reaction to a perceived severe threat, but also "sets" your mind (other regions) according to different -and lesser intense- emotional stimulus. It could be said that it's a powerful "first order" guardian, but it's not too smart.

It takes a little more time for the stimulus to reach the more analytic brain and be processed there. That's why a sudden event (loud sound, unexpected object near your face just by chance or as a prank) may scare the hell out of you for a second, but then you understand the whole thing, relax and laugh with your friend (or not :)

To "set" your mind may include "shutting down" or "suspend" temporarily some of regions of your brain in order to focus as much as possible in the reaction that's supposed to be the best for you. But your brain isn't perfect, sometimes make mistakes.

One of those mistakes is to "shut down" too fast regions that deal with complex rational and cognitive issues, and then you just "can't think". Some call to this "mental hijacking" in colloquial language.

Fear is particularly tricky. Is good to have a reasonable fear, it protects you from stupid accidents -for example-, but if you're too scared, too afraid or too anxious (with no reason at all), you're likely to get stuck in that first stage.

Unlike fear, anguish and anxiety are more subtle. Maybe the reaction is not that fast to shut down your rational capability before the stimulus reaches it, but as I said, your amygdalae is very powerful too, so it can perfectly undermine that capability.

Whatever the case, that person may look like unable to discern even basic ideas.

Not saying this is necessarily the case, but it could be related.

ExPwner · 2013-06-10T14:22:07+00:00

Feminism: where logic goes to die.

stemgang · 2013-06-10T06:00:17+00:00

She is violent, dishonest, and lacks compassion. In other words, a dangerous psychopath. Exercise extreme caution in your dealings with her.

ShitLordXurious · 2013-06-10T06:56:36+00:00

You could at least have thrown some facts in there - men are 97% work deaths, 99% war deaths, 90% prison population, receive 60% longer sentences for same crimes, 75% suicide cases, 3 times more likely to be victim of violent crime, 90% of homeless deaths. Etc.

Cyridius · 2013-06-10T13:57:17+00:00

Seeing as I'm an awful person, in these kinds of situations what I do is ask very straight forward questions and utterly ignore everything they say that doesn't relate to it.

Example;

"<feminist statement>"

Reply: "Can men get raped?"

"<avoids question>"

Reply: "It's a yes or no question. Can men get raped?"

Then after I finally get a response to that question, I move on. I also message all the guys I'm friends with with a link to the conversation so they can join me in shitting on her argument.

Then after it's all done I take a screenshot of the conversation, unfriend her and post it on my facebook, tagging certain people she's friends with that I know will think what she said is utterly retarded and offensive.

Because that's how I roll, socially excluding one asshole at a time.

The27thS · 2013-06-10T15:20:05+00:00

Being a men's rights activist is like explaining the risks of choking to a person who is starving to death.

I think a more accurate analogy would be men's rights activists are people who bring up the issue of starvation in the company of people who want to ban all food because they know someone who choked to death.

As far as the conversation goes I don't think they are talking about the same thing and OP did not point that out to the FB poster. The FB poster interpreted OP's response as "Women have no right to complain because ALL men have it so much worse." Yellow comes in and lists a bunch of examples of how women have it worse then men. OP did not argue that this conversation was actually about issues that are not mutually exclusive but instead changed the argument into one about who is behaving more ridiculously in this FB thread.

The fact of the matter is both men and women face gender issues in our current society and getting into pissing contests about which issues are worse is irrelevant because we are completely capable of addressing both at the same time. I'm not suggesting OP could have changed anyone's mind but this approach to discussion was destined to lead to defensiveness.

literallyschmiteraly · 2013-06-10T05:09:20+00:00

Yup, that's how it ALWAYS goes.

2013-06-10T05:18:07+00:00

Curious how old they are.

HydrogenxPi · 2013-06-10T05:19:43+00:00

I'm temped to sign up for Facebook just so I can start trolling comments like this.

Consolidated_Skeebal · 2013-06-10T05:25:38+00:00

This kind of shit pisses me right off.

california_wombat · 2013-06-10T06:08:35+00:00

I am fuming

takingstock · 2013-06-10T06:57:29+00:00

May I discriminate her based on her vernacular and ability to form a coherent argument without regard to her gender?

OnceAteABurgerAMA · 2013-06-10T07:02:45+00:00

My job requires me to do tasks that are physically demanding and the way I'm built allows me to do these tasks more easily, so I get bigger raises. Fuck me right?

Jv932 · 2013-06-10T07:57:54+00:00

Oh the /r/rage.

unpopthowaway · 2013-06-10T09:44:51+00:00

Amazing, people use cis unironically.

SneakyKiwiz · 2013-06-10T14:14:59+00:00

She just went on the attack really easily. Sheesh.

duglock · 2013-06-10T14:18:33+00:00

This is pretty much how cultural marxist argue. They yell and scream and throw personal insults. The best thing to do is just remain calm and smile and you talk to them. Their loss of self-control will only grow larger. I've found it the easiest way to win a debate with such radical leftists (that meaning both republicans and democrats for those in the US as there is very little difference between the two).

lord_ma1cifer · 2013-06-10T15:56:58+00:00

Its women like this that can turn a rational and reasonable MRA into a rabid hate machine they are almost as bad as the men who spout these falsehoods for them

2013-06-10T16:16:45+00:00

Well done for keeping your head cool. You debated with honour!

2013-06-10T17:56:25+00:00

You can never get people who flip out to stop and look at their remarks in a dispassionate way.

Everything she's saying is working backwards from the conclusion that she is right.

defeated_dad · 2013-06-10T19:16:59+00:00

As a father in the midst of a legal battle with my ex, any feminist that says only women have issues, send them my way. I'm a guy making just over 6 figures, my druggie ex gets over 50% of my earnings because she had me falsely arrested on battery charges.. She hit me, I get arrested... Still haven't figured that one out. No statement, no trial. Go directly to jail because some scumbag lied to the police.nowahe gets sole custody of my daughter even though she has a history of drug use. Now my daughter suffers... Come at me feminists

galt88 · 2013-06-10T19:22:13+00:00

So, she's angry AND dumb. Sounds like a keeper.

BlackLock- · 2013-06-10T14:39:41+00:00

She said "cis-gendered"unironically, so i immediately knew she was retarded.

TheOnlyKarsh · 2013-06-10T12:20:02+00:00

This mirrors just about every conversation I've ever had with a feminist. The male is calm, logical and reasonable while the feminist (male or female) turns into a raging insult monster. Seriously how did this movement get any traction with behavior like this?

Karsh

PyjamaTime · 2013-06-10T12:38:54+00:00

Um what issues of inequality do you men face? I'm intrigued to find that there's so many guys agreeing with the Blue author, and I'd love to hear what experiences you've had with gender inequality. Thanks.

2013-06-10T13:25:32+00:00

this is a textbook example of the result of the brainwashing of women thats been going on for a while now. Feminazism basically.

theskepticalidealist · 2013-06-10T10:51:44+00:00

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Lokrye · 2013-06-10T05:27:57+00:00

Anyone who uses the term Cis-gender and gender-queer isnt worth you wasting your time on. Your facebook experience will improve 100% every time you delete a waste of oxygen like that.

BullsLawDan · 2013-06-10T06:10:12+00:00

Trigger Warning: Cuntyness.

Black_Gallagher · 2013-06-10T07:04:12+00:00

Everyone in this thread needs to check their privilege ASAP.

2013-06-10T05:16:54+00:00

They're both terrible cunts

AhAssonanceAttack · 2013-06-10T06:12:53+00:00

this girl needs a chill pill

ConfirmedCynic · 2013-06-10T07:23:28+00:00

It gets tiresome, having to be the reasonable one because otherwise there would be no reason at all.

jokoon · 2013-06-10T07:40:32+00:00

maybe we should try to let feminist make their experimental society, to see what they really want, just for the laugh of it. I mean there gotta be some psychological/sociological studies right ?

I mean, what do feminists really want to change ? People's minds and morals ? This can't happen in a year.

As a man, I'll be always mad that there's a common idea men should fight for their pride. There are cliche about males too.

jimii · 2013-06-10T13:19:35+00:00

OP, you should link her to this thread.

PyjamaTime · 2013-06-10T06:06:15+00:00

Why would you have someone as fucking stupid as that on your friend list? She's a bottom feeder.

starryknight · 2013-06-10T08:18:22+00:00

Why do you even bother with psycho feminist cuntrags?

manicsuppressor · 2013-06-10T06:04:11+00:00

I gotta unsub from this subreddit soon. Anymore and it's going to give me cancer.

EDIT: Mixed up the word subreddit with thread.

Kodix · 2013-06-10T06:55:50+00:00

the word cis-gendered appears

Welp, I can see where this is going.

Freekyjesus · 2013-06-10T15:19:20+00:00

The fallacy of her viewpoint is that every woman is a victim and every man an oppressor.

Yes men historically have had it better, and the challenges and abuse that women have faced and still face are things we, as men for the most part, cannot fathom.

But some have it better than others regardless of gender and that's the one thing I wish Feminists would understand. These rights they claim all men have, are not universal. Just because traditionally men have been in power does not change the fact that my wife beats me and cheats on me and makes me feel worthless, it doesn't change the fact that in a divorce, chances are I won't get my kids even if the mother is unfit. It doesn't change the fact that I won't get promoted in the female dominate field I work in because of my gender. It doesn't change the fact that if I get raped there is hardly any societal support structure in place for me to get help, hell depending on where I live the rape might not even be a crime according to the letter of the law.

All because I am a man...

Now I don't want anything personally, I don't expect anything to change. I understand that as long as women are still being government sanctioned gang raped somewhere this planet, the voice of the MRA movement will be forever silenced by those who illogically believe that one begets the other... ...But what I would like is the opportunity to discuss these issues openly with other men without being told I'm a misogynist, without someone screaming in my face that my valid concerns about detrimental things happened to me in my life are not some sort of hate speech meant to being down someone else.

To any women reading this i just want to say accepting the fact that sometimes men too suffer the same indignities as women does not mean you are giving up the ground you fought so hard for, it doesn't mean you're turning your back on all the women that came before you. It just means that now you have power, real power, you have the power to choose to go down the same callous, hate-filled road that we did. Or you can pick a path we obviously never comprehended, the road of compassion, understanding and logic, the road to true equality

bh3244 · 2013-06-10T05:28:39+00:00

haha.

if i ever saw someone use the word "cis-gendered" they are getting the boot.

how did these crazies get on your friends list?

2013-06-10T12:02:33+00:00

ugh, disgusting.

2013-06-10T12:28:22+00:00

He absolutely nailed it with that last sentence. Too bad that wisdom is going to be completely lost on her.

2013-06-10T13:34:23+00:00

Well to be fair you didn't give her many examples to back up your theory. Should she just take her word for it?

notarapist72 · 2013-06-10T13:46:35+00:00

Top Lel

Tarkusdillo · 2013-06-10T15:32:04+00:00

they Cant Understand Normal Thinking.

gotigersgo · 2013-06-10T16:34:57+00:00

Argumentum ad hominem.

methcamp · 2013-06-10T16:37:10+00:00

It seems to me that every type of "rights movement" is just as much about punishing their oppressors (even those who were never in a position to oppress) as it is about gaining rights. And those rights always seem to include special privileges.

Chef_Lebowski · 2013-06-10T17:13:26+00:00

This is gonna sound so bad, and will probably make men look bad, but this woman is very punch worthy for that shit. I'm sorry, but being degraded by these two twats, in a 2 against 1 argument that basically says you raped me without doing it is not fair. I want to e-punch so bad now. I understand if you delete this comment, I would too..but that's just my knee jerk reaction to this situation.

Yeah, punching her in real life would really not solve the problem, it would make it so much worse, but it would feel good for that moment.

/rant

I'm sorry you have to deal with this OP.

GregorPike · 2013-06-10T17:31:31+00:00

Good job keeping it together OP, I'm not sure I could have.

DasJooBear · 2013-06-10T17:46:08+00:00

Names have been changed to protect the stupid.

2013-06-10T17:53:47+00:00

Where the hell did the idea of a pay discrepancy come from? I do not see how such a thing is even possible.

Jazzeki · 2013-06-10T18:09:23+00:00

this is what happens when you make rigths into a zero sum game.

feminists: we can't help men because women are more important

MRA's: let's help those who have problems no matter gender

if you call the later the sexists idea your "openion having rights" have just been revoked

2013-06-10T22:03:03+00:00

What a complete cunt.

2013-06-10T22:46:42+00:00

Wow. She just goes off the deep end. So much hate. Brainwashing certainly works well on the ignorant, yes?

ruffleshiffle · 2013-06-11T01:10:00+00:00

I really have to commend /u/FailingItUp for staying calm and to the point through the entire conversation. You came off as knowledgeable and reasonable, and any bystander will notice that. That is the kind of attitude anyone should aspire to.

LaughingTrees · 2013-06-11T05:08:49+00:00

This individual is an extremely hateful person...

2013-06-11T15:24:52+00:00

The hilarious thing is I actually have been turned down by employers because I'm not a woman.

Everyone knows a man is incapable of working in a bakery/cake shop.

What the fuck was I thinking when I applied there? Haha.

lemywincks · 2013-07-16T07:30:10+00:00

dat last line by op

BUUUURN

getrealdeeplikeboy · 2013-06-10T12:52:23+00:00

Call her a dike cunt licking whore and that should calm it down

overtmind · 2013-06-10T14:52:01+00:00

Oh look... People perpetually arguing on the internet again

2013-06-10T04:18:06+00:00

Stupid is as stupid does

LeadingPretender · 2013-06-10T07:13:26+00:00

That escalated so quickly. Where do you guys meet these people?

Roddy0608 · 2013-06-10T07:22:54+00:00

"Do you receive lower pay than the rest of your colleagues even though you're doing the same exact work?"

I did when I had a job. Now I'm just denied employment and training opportunities.

helalo · 2013-06-10T08:36:41+00:00

sometimes i think the feminist movement for their rights has been run over by american lesbians,who passionately dislike males.

Sasha_ · 2013-06-10T10:56:30+00:00

Pair of dumb cunts. At least they're lesbians so there chances of destroying some dude's life is fairly limited.

literallyschmiteraly · 2013-06-10T05:01:16+00:00

Why is misogyny unacceptable, especially given the way women behave? Is it wrong to hate the person who was so belligerent in those screen shots?

Please enlighten me. But be specific, I don't want to hear kindergarten arguments/rationale rehashed; no specious stuff. Just real stuff from the gut. And I hate to have to include this, but, don't downvote, just respond if you have any helpful insights, please. Thank you.

Title	Should have known better, but I wanted her to understand what she was really saying.
Author	FailingItUp
Upvotes	1377
Comments	468
Date	June 10, 2013 2:35 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/1g0qh3/should_have_known_better_but_i_wanted_her_to/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/should-have-known-better-but-i-wanted-her-to.1171681 https://theredarchive.com/post/1171681

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