I think the majority of men are unattractive in large part because of their high bodyfat %

Supreme_Salt_Lord · 2023-10-18T17:33:50+00:00

Can confirm being fat is a HUGE hinderance. Not impossible. But fucking HUGE.

Puns intended.

Hoopy223 · 2023-10-18T16:57:49+00:00

Haha welcome to America. I am a guy 5’10 and 170 pounds. Most women in America weigh as much or more than I do. We fat as hell in here.

HTML_Novice · 2023-10-18T17:22:27+00:00

Idk I’ve lived in gyms for 6 years now and 99% of people there are men

RIchardjCranium · 2023-10-18T16:53:37+00:00

What about those of us that aren’t overweight but are just not attractive. I’m the same size I was when I was 12 5’5” and 135 pounds so I’m just short and slim.

Dstar538888 · 2023-10-18T21:59:36+00:00

I used to work with older adults and I absolutely LOVED it when they would show me their photo albums from when they were younger, everybody was so damn fine back then🤣 like shit, wtf happened?💀 they were all lean with the jawline, and the suits, and the haircuts and then the women used to be so pretty too😭

Yeah I’m not fat myself, but your average man these days is an absolute slob and is so much more socially inept compared to other generations of men… yes the women are also fat now, but I feel like whenever dudes discuss this topic, they want to act like the men are all ripped and in shape while the women are all fat… nah you got a lot of fat dudes out here too🤷🏽‍♀️

Also men like to act like they’re not also picky, but then you have these derpy looking men that proceed to talk about how they won’t date a fat woman, but your average woman is fat now, so you ARE being picky by saying you only want a fit girl🤷🏽‍♀️…like that’s fine if that’s what you want, but just own it and don’t be so surprised that you have to compete for her attention… hot skinny women have options 🤣

Morgothe · 2023-10-18T16:46:59+00:00

Yep you settled it, women are allowed to be overweight because men like you will still find them attractive and give them a chance, women however, will not.

Lina-Inverse · 2023-10-18T18:02:59+00:00

100% this. If you're not under 15% bodyfat as a guy then 100% of your effort should be put towards fixing this.

Because I play sports a lot of my social circle contains ppl who do the same. Some of us like myself only started playing sports in their 30s. Many of our peers who don't do sports were far more active in their 20s and slowed down significantly in their 30s and now live more sedentary lives with non-existent self care routines.

The difference is quite extreme.

Pictures of them in their 20s look like they were taken 20 years ago when compared to how they look now. They were easily ~15-20% bodyfat then, now they've ballooned up to 25-35% body fat and that alone makes them look like completely different (and less attractive ppl)

I pretty much look identical if not better than i looked in my 20s because I actually exercise now, so even though I'm roughly the same bodyfat % I look better as i'm no longer rail thin (I was 5ft 10inches, 110lbs (almost certainly sub 10% bodyfat) in my early 20s.

As I approached 30 this went to almost 180lbs and I was almost 30% body fat at which point I realised if I wanted to continue to look good over 30, I'd have to put effort in and couldn't just coast like I could in my 20s.

Now i'm about 140lbs 10% body fat, and have practised a skin care routine for many years.

In my 20s my facial care routine consisted of splashing water in my face drying it with a rough towel last minute before heading out the door! Men, take care of your skin as soon as possible, future you will thank you profusely!

ChasingThatBag666 · 2023-10-18T18:25:47+00:00

I disagree with you about face fat not effecting female beauty as much. That is probably due to my own perception of what I look like, but when my BMI was 25 I had an ever so slight double chin if I squeezed my face back if that makes sense? It looked bad imo.

Hail_Vercingetorix · 2023-10-19T03:15:26+00:00

No amount of lifting and self-improvement can fix ugly. Some overweight guys can pull off the cute cherub thing and having a bit of fat in the face makes you look younger. Yeah, it's great to be in shape but it's not the be all end all. You can polish a turd for years but at the end of the day shit is still shit. Read a fucking book so you actually have something to talk about and learn to play an instrument. I got more blowjobs strumming G chords than I ever did lifting barbells.

controllrevival · 2023-10-18T17:05:01+00:00

Women don’t have to work out as much because , A, their body type is meant to hold a bit of fat for child birth , and B, that’s not their role in nature…As men, our role is to compete for women and that means being fit. Women’s role is to choose which men they want to procreate it with. Want someone to blame? Blame Mother Nature. I tell all guys to exercise and work out , different expectations for women so we need to stop comparing ourselves.

Devontokes420 · 2023-10-18T16:19:13+00:00

Real

Beautiful_Bunch_6079 · 2023-10-18T21:20:42+00:00

Being 6ft and 150 lbs really makes most of the women around me look like im a praying mantis to be honest.

purpledaggers · 2023-10-18T16:10:52+00:00

I could get behind this thesis. I know looking at photos of my dad and uncles/aunts friends hanging on in the 70s and 80s and even 90s, most people were much more in shape. Even the chubbier people were like 20 pounds overweight, not 50+ pounds.

If we want to get into the evopsych / BIOLOGY~~~~~! argument, maybe humans don't find super chubby features as attractive. I kind of doubt this... but in theory its possible.

candikanez · 2023-10-18T18:14:29+00:00

That's because attractive male features are sharp and chiseled and attractive female features are soft and rounded, so women having a little plump doesn't cause an opposite effect to her features like it does for men.

Beauty is subjective— thinking thin is "smoking hot" is just your opinion, and others think thin is unattractive and some plump (thicc, curvy) is what's attractive. Back in the day, thicc was the beauty standard too seeing as Marilyn Monroe was and is still a beauty icon.

Edit: typo

Sillysheila · 2023-10-18T20:08:21+00:00

I agree. The issue with high body fat for guys is that men aren’t curvy. They’re more of a straight shape. So more overweight men look a bit worse. Their belly and stuff stands out more.

meangingersnap · 2023-10-18T21:21:15+00:00

Man boobs are a travesty fr

CasseroleTruck · 2023-10-18T22:42:53+00:00

The amount of goodlooking guys I see who threw away over half their appeal to women over time through shitty eating, sedentary living and apathy is insane. Like they start off great in their early 20s and then just slowly slide downward. Biological aging has nothing to do with it as the metabolism and changes are not nearly drastic enough before 40 to make a real difference. People complain about getting fat but it's clear from their life choices not getting fat isn't a priority, but getting that perfect instagram shot during happy hour or that concert video is.

xbthewizard2 · 2023-10-18T18:26:17+00:00

I lost 30 pounds and I feel so much better. I’m still ugly though. Just not fat. I still got a baby face though. Just need to drop these last 10 pounds

No_Assumption_5864 · 2023-10-18T21:44:09+00:00

I'm not fat and never been still very very few women seem to be liked me

Gold_Supermarket1956 · 2023-10-18T22:41:19+00:00

Women some what overweight!?!?!? You do realize the average female weight in the us is 170lbs right and the height is 5'4 that puts a lot of women into the obese range

bifewova234 · 2023-10-18T16:47:45+00:00

Pick on fat men. No mention of fat women. Why not?

_Remember_me_not_ · 2023-10-18T16:51:14+00:00

Sure why not...This is an age where even morbidly obese women who are seconds away from becoming crushed under their own weights are given the status of plus size model. Why would such a disparity in perception be even a surprise anymore?

Ok_Cycle225 · 2023-10-18T16:33:39+00:00

I think the majority of men are unattractive in large part because of their high bodyfat%

Women are just as fat as men as it stands. So why don't the fat people just date each other?

le_paso · 2023-10-18T16:20:02+00:00

I can assure you that height matters orders of magnitude more than bodyfat % and the majority of men are not considered tall

harmonica2 · 2023-10-18T17:09:34+00:00

How come a large percentage of women find the majority of men unattractive because of body fat but when women have body fat men can still find them attractive and don't care?

iSellNuds4RedditGold · 2023-10-18T19:41:59+00:00

On women the difference in attractiveness was not as noticeable.

Unless we get into morbidly obese territory, a lot women can have cute feminine faces even if they are somewhat overweight. Sure they won't be smoking hot, but attractive enough for most guys not to instantly reject.

This is such bullshit, women are way more overweight than before and way less attractive due to their weight. I haven't checked your user yet, but I bet my left nut that you are a woman and that's why you think that women didn't get less attractive. After I check your profile I'll edit the comment with my findings.

Edit: ok, you do sound like a dude I was wrong in that.

But come on man, you can't tell me that all these women with flabs and high waisted jeans to hide their abdominal fat is attractive.

RIchardjCranium · 2023-10-18T16:53:45+00:00

What about those of us that aren’t overweight but are just not attractive. I’m the same size I was when I was 12 5’5” and 135 pounds so I’m just short and slim.

Sad_Top1743 · 2023-10-18T17:52:45+00:00

Nah I live in a major city with very few fatties.

The biggest detrimental factor if you were to pick one would be height. After that probably baldness.

Fat is an issue in the rest of America but not really the big cities

StopThinkingJustPick · 2023-10-18T19:56:01+00:00

I'm a guy who has been both heavy and thin/fit. Things really are much different between the two. Heavy means invisible, thin it's like the world has changed. I'm not looking to date right now, but if that changes I will surely be losing this weight first based on those experiences.

I find it also helps to put yourself in a potential partners shoes. Would you want to date you? Would you want to date yourself more if you lost a few pounds?

People underestimate how much of a difference it'll make for them.

And this is no way a negative reflection on women. Men look at appearances too, just like women. I've known plenty of men who are pursuing conventionally attractive women exclusively while at the same time complaining that women only want attractive men. If either gender honestly didn't care about looks, we'd live in a much different world today.

LifeQuail9821 · 2023-10-18T20:35:27+00:00

I’m going to disagree for the simple fact that I was overweight in high school, dropped a bunch of weight in college, and nothing changed for me dating wise. I also know a bunch of guys who are skinny or actually in shape who have never done well. It’s face+a bit of personality. Especially living in Texas where everyone is fat, you’d think healthy weight women would pair up with healthy weight men, but that’s just not the case. A lot of healthy weight, pretty women paired up to fat dudes with decent faces around.

Also, there’s at least one study around that suggests the “fat but can bench 350” type of guy is the most liked overall for looks in body.

Many_Dragonfly4154 · 2023-10-18T23:06:29+00:00

I'm borderline underweight, yet women still find me ugly af.

Earth-lover93 · 2023-10-18T23:14:52+00:00

More women than men are overweight, beauty at every size doesn’t apply to men cause we aren’t pathetic enough to cry about being fat

ThorLives · 2023-10-19T01:58:34+00:00

What's funny about this is all the talk about how men are more shallow than women, and how women will be attracted to overweight men but men aren't attracted to overweight women, and women are burdened with diet culture. That's the story we're told anyway.

I had seen some statistics around the number of messages received by men and women vs their BMI. I looked for that data, and found this 2006 paper: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=895442 (You can download and read the PDF for free.)

The numbers that came up show that the men who received the most messages had a BMI of 26-28 (figure 5.5, page 58). (I'm not sure what to make of the chart showing that guys with <16 BMI getting lots of messages. The error bars are big, so there's a lot of uncertainty.) Women who received the most messages had BMIs of 16-18, and 18-22 also did well. It appears that average BMI guys did well and thin girls did well. Hard to directly convert from BMI to fat percentage, though, because guys with lots of muscle also have higher BMI. A lot of athletes would have a BMI in that middle range.

Officially, a BMI of less than 18.5 is "underweight". A BMI of 20-25 is normal. A BMI of 25-30 is overweight. And a BMI of 30+ is obese.

Another interesting chart in that paper (Figure 5.2) showed that men in the top 5% of attractiveness got way more likes than men in the top 5-10% percentiles. The gap really stands out. There is no such jump for women. Looks like it's not the top 20% of men who get the most interest. It's the top 5% who really stand out according to women.

The statistics in this paper seem to confirm the idea of men liking thin women. Although women seem to get a lot more interest from men than vice versa across the board, meaning that an overweight women could still get more interest than an overweight man.

And obviously, these numbers are almost 20 years old, so not sure if things have changed.

No_Ask_2241 · 2023-10-19T04:43:27+00:00

Nah I am lean, muscular you need way more than that to be attracrive to women

renfsu · 2023-10-19T05:57:55+00:00

While the surplus of fat men doesn't help, on the other side of the coin, you have fat women in addition to countless single moms with multiple kids that "come first".

Just being in shape doesn't make success as a man because you're also judged on charisma, ability to lead, emotional intelligence. And unfortunately location, race, height, language, tattoos, and even your accent all play roles besides just body fat.

Dude, success with women is luck and how confident you seem. You can be the hottest you'll ever be and still get ghosted at the last minute. It's a numbers game and honestly you probably act differently when you feel more attractive.

Signal_Adeptness_724 · 2023-10-19T06:16:56+00:00

Not wrong, same goes for women. Country be fat

uwuskincare · 2023-10-19T06:52:04+00:00

I totally agree that women carry fat a lot better than men (only up to a point tho - like maybe 20 pounds over is fine on a woman but on a man just is... not good).

Women store fat in more places than men, some of which are desirable places to have extra fat, like boobs, ass, maybe thighs too. I literally don't know where you could add 20 pounds of fat to a man without tanking his attractiveness. Do men even have genes to store fat in the ass???

Even in other animals we can see this. I used to have guppies and the female ones always had a bigger curvier belly, but the male fish were skinny yet colorful. Females are just meant to be softer and curvier than men (cuz pregnancy lol) so they have more wiggle room with gaining weight.

BTW obese women (and men) are too far gone

Holiday_Artichoke_86 · 2023-10-19T09:34:10+00:00

This argument doesn't enter my head. I have always been an athlete since I was a child, I was/am always the most muscular and with the best body of all my friends, but at the same time I was/am always the least successful with woman.

bnhncnyc · 2023-10-19T10:00:09+00:00

Same applies to women. Plus their makeup. Makeup always make women way less attractive than they could be. If you add fat on top of that… RIP

Det_Steve_Sloan · 2023-10-19T12:06:52+00:00

I'm an attractive guy, on top of having an attractive face I spend all of my free time bodybuilding.

Let me tell you, these fat women may be attracted to hotter men, but they're not getting with us. I'm always surprised when a fat woman aggressively and confidently pursues me. Simple logic apparently does not exist: A guy with abs, low body fat, delts and Popeye arms is not a match for a fat, gluttonous woman. SOMETHING is making them confidently deny reality.

In the past 18 months alone, I have been on the receiving end of campaigns of spite and abuse from three fat women, one of whom was married, for rejecting their aggressive advances. I rejected them carefully by the way. One tried to ruin my career.

They turn down men in their own league. Hell even men slightly out of their league. They seem to think that loud, obnoxious aggression is a turn on? I don't know.

MistyMaisel · 2023-10-18T16:21:57+00:00

Yes. It also helped men that they used to have a general dress code that was being handed to them by society that was attractive for the majority of men. But yes, most of the men I've not found attractive were either horribly skinny due to a lack of exercise and sedentary lifestyle or chubby/overweight due to the same thing. And yes, it influenced their faces usually either making them appear gaunt and sickly or not really having a face so much as chonk.

uterine_blackmail · 2023-10-19T03:26:15+00:00

Everybody likes to believe that the reason why they are unattractive has to do with their weight.

And this applies to men and women. What I am about to explain is a perfect example of just-world fallacy. After all, losing weight requires discipline and will power, but it's doable. Changing a very ugly bone structure is impossible. So, what do people do? They love to blame it on their weight. Think about it. Imagine you are ugly, assuming you are not already. What do you want to hear? Do you want to hear that all you have to do is lose weight, get a nice haircut and crack trite jokes, or do you want to hear that no amount of weight loss and lifting will make you proportionate and attractive?

In some cases, the extra weight is the real culprit, but in MOST cases, it is not. Yes, I know that being overweight is what is holding back a small percentage of people. But people love to believe that they are ugly for things they can change through willpower. People LOVE to believe that all they have to do is go to the gym and lose weight. Truth is that in most cases, I would say 95% of cases, being ugly boils down to bad genetics. It boils down to immutable and unchangeable things, and that includes a myriad of things that cannot be changed, not even through reconstructive surgery. People HATE acknowledging that.

Look at all the content creators who make millions off of selling lies and false hopes to desperate people. The typical advice given to women struggling with dating is, "lose weight, go to the gym, lift weights." The typical advice given to men struggling with dating is, "lose weight, go to the gym, lift weights."

I frequent several gyms and I see a lot of people who are fit and have no weight to lose and yet they are still conventionally ugly. I see guys who lift and have a very low percentage of body fat, but they are still ugly because they are short, have very asymmetrical faces, misshapen heads (and yeah, people perceive these things unconsciously). narrow faces resembling barn owls. I see how brutally rejected these fit guys are by women. All I have to do is sit in a corner, blend in, and watch carefully. And I am talking about guys who are in optimal shape but are still shortlets or have other physical shortcomings. And this applies to women too. I know women who have lost like 30 lbs and now they have a flat ass, flat boobs, and look older in the face.

Personally, I don't get offended when guys send me dick photos. It helps me avoid awkward moments because I have jumped in the sack with men and I later found out they had very unattractive or small genitalia. Am I shallow? Fuck yes. Guys are more shallow than me.

Now, weight loss more than 40 lbs causes skin laxity. No amount of weight lifting can fix that. You need to surgically excise the excess skin. I have seen people looking flaccid and deflated after weight loss.

Please stop blaming everything on the weight. Some women are thin and ugly. Maybe they would look better with a bit of extra weight, but they have an unattractive facial structure.

I get a lot of hate when I tell people that losing weight, wearing nice clothes, being fit will ONLY MARGINALLY improve your chances. And some women look better and younger slightly overweight.

Veloci-Tractor · 2023-10-18T16:57:32+00:00

yes

men pushed the narrative for hundreds of years that they are the bread winners and the protectors

an excessive consumer society and abundance of comforts/distractions has left people soft and incapable

men on average no longer fill the niche they carved for themselves

they played themselves

Safinated · 2023-10-18T16:56:03+00:00

Way more men have offended me with their words and actions than their face and body.

It’s not even a thing really, because massively obese people are rare, not common

suh_dewd · 2023-10-18T20:35:15+00:00

same with women tho

BlareJack · 2023-10-18T23:48:16+00:00

Correct. 90% dating/courting problems on this sub, faced by men, can be solved with achieving a healthy Body Mass Index.

anonymousUser1SHIFT · 2023-10-18T18:18:40+00:00

I will counter your claim by saying what about the those who don't build muscle. For example Tom Holland.

I did the grind with a proper diet (3000-4500 calories a day with protein) with 6 days a week working out. I couldn't get pass that skinny muscular look.

Therefore, it's not about fat percentage it's about how much visible muscles you have. What I have found is when guys are talking about building muscles they are talking about the Tom Holland look. However when women are talking about how they don't like body builders but they do like muscly men, they are talking about the Chris Evans look.

Unfortunately, for a pretty sizable chunk of the population of men, getting the Chris Evans look just isn't possible without external help.

aidsjohnson · 2023-10-18T18:35:12+00:00

I think you're wrong. Lots of women out there like chubby guys, and there's been an interest in the "dadbod" in recent years.

PeterWritesEmails · 2023-10-18T18:48:19+00:00

> On women the difference in attractiveness was not as noticeable.

>Unless we get into morbidly obese territory, a lot women can have cute feminine faces even if they are somewhat overweight. Sure they won't be smoking hot, but attractive enough for most guys not to instantly reject.

Lol. No. You're just thirsty mate.

AbsolutelyNobody0 · 2023-10-18T19:22:22+00:00

It's a nice thought, but I'm not convinced. At least in the US, women are just as fat as men. And no, it's not cute when women are fat. The reality is that even if all men were in shape and all women were fat, women would still behave the way they are.

SlowEffective8146 · 2023-10-18T20:09:11+00:00

Nah this is BS because there's still 80/20 in countries where the men have much lower bodyfat (asian countries)

a-person-who-lurks · 2023-10-18T20:30:21+00:00

Tone down your anti-american remarks

Cethlinnstooth · 2023-10-18T17:52:11+00:00

Aaaaaah. It's generally acknowledged that some women experiencing loss of periods due to emaciation starts about 18% or 17% bf in woman. I mean just saying. At 12 percent a significant percentage of women will be infertile.

I hope you're not suggesting women attain 12 percent body fat too. Women are set up to need an extra 5 or so percent of body fat more than men need for their hormones to do the right thing.

macone235 · 2023-10-18T18:00:01+00:00

While most people are overweight, that's not the case at younger ages where men actually suffer more. Plus, it's not like women are any skinnier, so that statement is not valid at all.

People need to learn what hypergamy means. It's the product of male-male competition, which means there will always be winners and losers no matter how hard people try.

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kvakerok · 2023-10-18T18:55:04+00:00

~~men~~ people

FTFY

SnooCupcakes9990 · 2023-10-18T19:03:18+00:00

Well, a majority of women to, especially after their 30s

p_ython · 2023-10-18T21:22:01+00:00

I didn't realize how true this was until I dropped from 27 BMI to 22 BMI. I didn't consider myself fat back then but I just wanted to lose weight to get a completely flat belly and lower my cholesterol. Nowdays I look in the mirror sometimes and think wow look at that new jawline and I look at old photos in disgust thinking how did I not think I was fat

For reference I was as big as Jonah Hill in the Jump Street movies, I thought that was normal at the time, now I'm more of a Macques Brownlee (MKBHD dude), I definitely notice more glances from girls and matches on dating app with updated pictures of my skinnier self

mystoryhere12 · 2023-10-18T21:36:54+00:00

It helps for sure but a handsome face is significantly more important

TheInvincibleMan · 2023-10-18T21:59:18+00:00

What’s worth noting is that a man at 20% body fat is on a completely different attractive scale compared to a woman at 20%. They just look better, google it.

19whale96 · 2023-10-18T22:00:59+00:00

I have a very low bodyfat %, unhealthily so, even. It doesn't help.

emorizoti · 2023-10-18T23:20:09+00:00

Long version: We've all heard how Italians(people born and raised in Italy, not the Italiam community in the US) are notorious for being the best dressed in the world. And after them are the French. After all both countries are synonyms of fashion with Milano and Paris being the capital of the high end historical brands. Hollywood has always had the latin lover character since the Silent Era. And it is true. They dress in suits and open shirts and every color that fits with the image. Never with snapbacks, flashy AJ1s, workers clothes, gym shorts, etc. When I was in Italy I remember watching an old dude(in his 70s most likely) with a blue jacket, sailor shirt, beige pants, leather chelsea boots and slicked back hair. I saw another old man in his 70s while in France, with a slim blue navy coat, black open shirt, grey pants, leather shoes and ray bans.

But something striked me as to why even the most simple dressed people looked so good. I mean even the ones who looked average were fabulous by US standarts. How? They all were elegant. Not the fit of the dress but looked healthy. No visible fat in their face. No beer belly. Slim as hell. No double chin. And very well maintained no matter the status. Even the public area cleaners looked in shape. You could dress them in sacks and old fabric pieces like scarecrows and they would look great because of their body shape.

While back in my country, everyone aged 23 and above starts to develope a beer belly and a hanging chin because of the messed up diet with lots of energy drinks, beers and fats. But when I look at the old photos of my family members from 20-30 years ago, they look like models compared to the todays fat men. That's only because they had no fat in their face or body.

Being a little obese is not a problem according to WHO, but universally speaking it is always better to stay in a normal BMI ratio. Many articles have pointed out that dad bods are the most attractive to women, but that's for being normal and not fat. I mean not being ripped and buffed. So yeah, men really need to lose weight to look better. Not to just attract other women, but to make themselves a favor. A healthy one.

Tl;dr: the key reason why the French and mostly the Italians are considered the best dressed people in the world, apart of having a high sense of fashion, is because they are elegant, fit and rarely with any visible fat in their body or face. Not skinny or muscular, just normal.

anna_alabama · 2023-10-18T23:37:11+00:00

Not every girl likes thin or muscular guys. I prefer larger guys, and there’s plenty of other girls out there who have the same preference.

peteryansexypotato · 2023-10-19T04:56:38+00:00

Hey, I said the same thing about a week ago in a thread about the % of women deemed attractive vs the % of men: https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1776qkw/more_women_than_men_are_seen_as_attractive_by/k4s8unn/

My thought was that women have more attractive fat distribution than me.

iassureyouimreal · 2023-10-19T11:12:39+00:00

Most Americans are fat and unattractive

notmepleaseokay · 2023-10-19T13:27:30+00:00

I also think in addition to them being overweight the majority of men are boring, even the in shape ones.

George69143 · 2023-10-19T14:28:50+00:00

Not true. I am in great shape and so are all my friends. We’re in our 20s above average looking and in good shape, yet still unattractive to most women. The bar is just extremely high.

Cotehill · 2023-10-19T17:27:28+00:00

Dad bods aren’t nice at all. And I used to have one. Daily hated my gut being pushed up and rolling over my trousers’ waistband. And jowls on my cheeks.

Men are not usually naturally attractive, but a way for every man to be ugly is to be fat. Just take Johnny Depp or Elvis. It’s natural as we get older and we like to accept it as “it’s natural as you get older”. Nah. It’s because we get our feet under the table and get lazy.

sweetbrown89 · 2023-10-19T18:34:18+00:00

Lots of people who are fat / overweight / whatever are out there demanding people be attracted to them

I’m 5’3” 135-140ish, lots of cardio, clean / low sugar diet, Asian, baby faced, strict skincare routine

I constantly (on apps where you don’t need to match to chat) get approached by fat men who are very indignant that I’m not even going to consider them

And I mean “guys who are the same thing as the women interviewed on the street on TikTok demanding perfect 10s while looking like a blob monster”

It’s not just women with absurd demands

Radiant_Specific6542 · 2023-10-20T12:54:22+00:00

Body fat percentage plays a huge role in attractiveness for men and women. I travel alot but I'm a United States native. At face value, women in foreign countries seem far more attractive than American women but the reality is, the women are just overweight/obese in my country.

So yea, those leaner men were more attractive. Weight matters. Man or woman.

Title	I think the majority of men are unattractive in large part because of their high bodyfat %
Author	320d__
Upvotes	182
Comments	348
Date	October 18, 2023 4:03 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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