Misandry creates MORE misogynists.

leosandlattes · 2025-07-22T22:36:18+00:00

I mean by that logic, misogyny creates more misandrists. Now what? I'm sure when the next Elliot Roger goes, "Your Honor, in my defense I was pushed to murder these women because my feelings were hurt by misandrists," that will hold up very well.

random_radishes · 2025-07-22T23:08:53+00:00

Hate breeds hate.

Next up water is wet

caption291 · 2025-07-23T00:57:38+00:00

Misandry has increased over the last 100 years. Misogyny has decreased over the last 100 years.

So I don't think it's as simple as misandry creating misogyny. Misandry as a response to misogyny was acceptable to men, but an increase in misandry as a response to a decrease in misogyny is not.

fiftypoundpuppy · 2025-07-22T22:34:09+00:00

Please point to these societies where women do everything men want and men still don't view them with utter contempt

Men's attitudes about and treatment of women has never had any significant correlation with how women feel about men

wtknight · 2025-07-23T01:12:43+00:00

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KhadgarIsaDreadlord · 2025-07-23T06:57:39+00:00

It's kind of a loaded topic with a lot of fallacies.

"Misandry only hurts men's feelings"

Systematic misandry has lead to the death and prolonged suffering of countless men. When a man is assulted volently by a woman, he has almost nothing to turn to. There are no male shelters, individuals and law enforcement won't take them seriously or will straight up ridicule them. I could go into details further but the bottom line is that society doesn't care about men's suffering the same way it does for women. Men also lead in suicides by a large margin and I think most of those cases could have been prevented if they had access to the same resources and social safety nets we have for women.

But these are the less apparent issues. What creates more misogynists than anything is the constant spew of anti-male rhetoric from all media outlets. Somehow men are the exception from the taboo of attacking people based on their unmutable characteristics. On it's own it's not THAT bad, what sends people over the edge is the blatant hypocrisy and double standard of it. Seeing that women are protected while men get generalised based on the actions of criminals heavily fucks with people's sense of justice.

Misandry is so normalized in today's western society that a lot of feminists will deny it's existence or claim that it does exists but it is harmless. These statements in themselves prove how ignorant these people are to the harmful effects of their behavior.

"Misogynists kill women"

If I wanted to be as bad faith as this argument is I would point out that over half of female muder victims are killed by former or current intimate partners and say something along the lines of "stop having srx with misogynists then".

Instead I want to bring in a global statistic. 8 out of 10 murder victims are men. The reason you barely hear about this imbalance is that female victims recieve a better coverage and treated with a lot more severity. In reality, women are significantly less likely to be killed for any reason than men are. That doesn't mean they don't deserve to be adressed, what I mean is that the overrepresentation may skew the public perception on how often women are killed in the grand scheme of things.

Finally, to add another spicy fact to the pile: A lot of criminals draw the line at hurting women and children, even ones who have no problem violently attacking adult men. We don't know how much that contributes to the statistics or how much it reduces the number of potenntial female victims but we do know that the overwhelming majority of victims of violent crime are male.

To be crystal clear, I hold no resentment towards women for these reasons and I don't intend to unermine their problems either. Most women are awesome and treat men fairly. Misandrists can rot in hell tho, male or female I don't care.

MyLastBestChance · 2025-07-22T22:57:49+00:00

So…men kill, rape and abuse women because those women weren’t “nice” enough?

That leads us to “women had better be nice to men otherwise men will kill, rape and abuse them”

Yeah, we see that all the time here when some men threaten us with the dickpocalypse that will also happen because women aren’t “nice” enough to men. Usually includes some kind of suggestion that we can either voluntarily have sex with men we aren’t interested in or we can get repeatedly gang raped by incel marauders when society falls (again because we weren’t “nice” enough to men).

Sorry buddy, we aren’t going to pander to misogynistic predators hoping that they will decide that we’ve been nice enough…

Downtown_Cat_1745 · 2025-07-22T22:58:46+00:00

So everything is women’s fault. Got it.

Electric-Vermicelli · 2025-07-23T00:30:33+00:00

I wish we could just force them to date each other because they’re the perfect match.

Exponential_Rhythm · 2025-07-22T22:51:33+00:00

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Sophiatab · 2025-07-22T23:21:40+00:00

Misogynist call women defending ourselves misandry.

fakingandnotmakingit · 2025-07-22T23:51:10+00:00

Men: abuse women, commit more violent crimes against women than vice versa, chant your body my choice gleefully, make rape jokes, actually rape women, parade underwear in courtrooms etc etc

Women: wow men can be horrible

Men: waaaah wahmen bad

But men are the rational gender

Lmao

ThatBitchA · 2025-07-22T23:33:39+00:00

What exactly is misandry? What examples are you referring to?

Holding men accountable isn't misandry. Returning an insult isn't misandry.

If seems like some of you squeal misandry after a woman claps back on your insult of her or when a woman rejects a man or when a woman is holding a man accountable.

I've yet to see anyone on this sub present a case of misandry that isn't just a clap back to the men making misogynistic insults.

It's like y'all want to insult women for being women and then get all emotional when women match those insults with ones about Men.

TotalTravesty · 2025-07-22T22:36:58+00:00

Is it misandry to call men who kill, rape, and abuse while blaming internet comments for it weak-ass punks?

torytho · 2025-07-23T08:19:49+00:00

What if it’s not intended for anything? What if it’s just a release of anger and frustration that serves no purpose?

_HighJack_ · 2025-07-23T06:47:06+00:00

I agree with you, but they’re not really trying to achieve anything. They’re lashing out because they’ve been severely abused and are in pain and terrified. Anger is almost always a cover for hurt or fear. And I would point out that it goes both ways; misogynist men repeatedly damage women and then those women share their experiences with others for safety and commiseration. Which helps create misandrists.

By the time you’re an adult female you’ll already have heard or witnessed dozens of stories of boys and adult men harassing various friends of yours. Even that is not an easy experience to move past, and then if you add to that almost all women experience at least sexual harassment if not outright assault… idk it’s just really not comparable. It’s like complaining about regular jail to a holocaust survivor. Like yeah jail sucks, nobody’s gonna argue that, but wouldn’t you feel kind of ridiculous?

Competitive_Lion_260 · 2025-07-22T23:23:39+00:00

Misogyny creates misandry.

So you guys have to stop first.

The end.

GGMcThroway · 2025-07-22T23:01:05+00:00

Being an asshole to people is bad. News at 11.

Misandry doesn't do shit, though. That would imply men actually take what women say seriously.

WanabeInflatable · 2025-07-23T05:05:55+00:00

I made posts explaining it. They go tantrum and cry that I blame women for misogyny

Makuta_Servaela · 2025-07-23T00:19:54+00:00

Hated men become misogynists.

Loved men become misogynists: no mother raises a son with the hopes that he'll hate women. Muhammed's mother likely didn't expect he'd go on to rape a child and grow a religion about locking women in the home and beating them for showing their hair. That same child and every other wife he had gave in to him and loved him. Virtually all of the male school shooters openly hated women, and plenty of them had loving female family members. No woman who is murdered by her male partner believed he was "one of the bad ones".

Phobia of men does turn normal men bad, sure, but lacking phobia of men makes you vulnerable to the men who are already bad, and men don't require misandry to turn bad.

At the end of the day, the change has to come from men. There is nothing women can do to control men's behaviour.

GrouchNslouch777 · 2025-07-22T23:41:22+00:00

Women create misogynists tbh.

The men who do best with women across the board in terms of relationship satisfaction and short term sex are benevolent sexists.

The close runner up? Hostile sexists (misogynists).

Left in the dust? Egalitarian men.

Which groups of men hold the most sexist views toward women?

Very attractive men Very unattractive men

^ all of the above statements are backed by research. Have some popcorn and a Google for a good time.

Comfortable-Dare-307 · 2025-07-23T00:53:02+00:00

Misandry and misogyny are both equally bad. They both contribute to crimes against the opposite sex. Misogynist men rape and kill women. Misandrist women abuse and kill men. Its not a contest on who is worse. 40% of boys sexually abused are done so by women. 1 in 4 girls under 12 are sexually assaulted or abused....around 14%-20% of that by other women. 1 in 6 boys under 12 are sexually abused or assaulted...60% by men, 40% by women. These are true about adults as well. (1 in 6 men and 1 in 4 women are sexually assaulted). Women are victims of domestic violence more by men, but men are more likely to be seriously injured or killed by women in DV cases. Men are more likely to be murdered or physically assaulted in general. Men are more likely to be raped in prison, women are more likely to be raped outside prison. Boys are more likely to be sexually assaulted in juvenile prisons. (Usually by women). Girls are more likely to be victims of sexual abuse and boys are more likely to be victims of physical abuse...both by men and women. Women physically abuse boys more than girls. Both sexes of all ages are equally as likely to be victims of verbal and emotional abuse. Boys are more likely to be sexually assaulted in school or church related activities. (Boy Scouts, Catholic Church). Girls are more likely to be sexually abused by family in the home. Anyway...there are bad women and bad men. There are men, boys, women and girls that are victims of crimes. Instead of making it a competition on who has it worse, we should be working together to prevent these things.

Sources include but are not limited to 1in6.org, RAINN.org, AfterSilence.org, MaleSurvivor.org.

torytho · 2025-07-23T00:42:56+00:00

Stop defending misogynists. They deserve only condemnation.

just_onistea · 2025-07-22T22:34:49+00:00

To force women to continue to smile when they’re dealt extreme levels of sexism degradation and dehumanization is abusive in itself.

flipsidetroll · 2025-07-23T07:46:02+00:00

Ok., while I don’t really disagree with you about the cycle of it, what is wrong is that you are making others responsible for one’s actions. If you react to someone and think abusing, raping and killing is ok because of how they made you feel, then you are the problem.

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3gm22 · 2025-07-23T12:02:30+00:00

The sand tree burgers and rapes men's intellect and will while marginalizing some of their best features. Sandry seems natural in a modernist liberal atheist society because atheism also marginalizes the intellect of the will. I believe Sandra is a symptom of trying to live in a world to you that only accepts form and matter as explanations of reality. As a consequence most things that are different become equalized and the inherent differences between those things marginalized.

Silver-Button4299 · 2025-07-23T12:17:45+00:00

The answer to misandry is really easy. Go focus on your purpose become amazing and then meet a great woman.

And for Gods sake please stop being such sensitive men with such easily accessed feelings. If a woman can hurt your feelings she can control you and manipulate you. Matter of fact just about anyone can. It is a basic law of power to not give people this control.

undergrapes · 2025-07-23T12:55:15+00:00

I think misogyny created misandry. In internet world, people are just mean to each other. In the real world, there are tons of kind women out there. I would say 95% are nice and will talk to men. But you gotta speak up and not be weird. And if you're learning how to speak to women confidently, you're going to have to just ACCEPT you're weird because you're in the process of growing. And that's ok. You are still developing communication skills. That said, you can't get mad at a woman for rejecting you. Even if one or two are mean to you. That just keeps you from accomplishing your goal. Learn from the mistakes. Sometimes you just don't vibe with a person. Keep moving until you find the ones that do. The world doesn't need misogyny or misandry.

Turbulent-Company373 · 2025-07-23T14:03:38+00:00

They both seem to be reactions to each other. Anything that blames a whole group for the bad actions/sins of some in the group doesn't help in dealing with such things. I don't think someone should hate women just because they are women or men just because they are men. People have bad experiences with other people whether they are of the same sex or of the opposite sex. Neither sex is perfect. I wish that people didn't hate each other so much, especially when our earth/ship is sinking.

Aramarara · 2025-07-23T14:18:56+00:00

this is such a silly opinion, misogyny has literally existed before misandry has ever existed, like just take a single look at history books

ChadHecker · 2025-07-23T14:20:58+00:00

Finally someone with sense.

trahloc · 2025-07-23T15:19:02+00:00

It's no different than "It's ok to be white" pissing people off. They're used specifically to trigger racists and sexists because they can't let any benign phrase that humanizes those they hate go uncontested. It was eye opening to see how many sexist and racists walk among us promoting love and equality while having nothing but bile in their hearts.

Yupperdoodledoo · 2025-07-23T16:01:03+00:00

Men have threatened my safety far more than they have protected me.

You’re saying if I was dropped in the Congo men would appear to save me?

El_Chucaro · 2025-07-23T16:52:21+00:00

"Misandry is bad", misandrists come and say "Well, misandry hurts men's feelings, misogyny kills women" SO???

Tell that to the families of men that killed themselves over a false rape accusation.

Dutchmaster617 · 2025-07-22T23:01:18+00:00

Women are probably more likely to be killed for loving a man.

The hate on social media is probably more likely to cause men to kill themselves.

Superb-Foundations · 2025-07-23T07:28:47+00:00

Iunno man.... Men could stop raping and killing women and children en masse. I bet that would help with misandry quite a bit. That would be a great start.

GofukYourselves · 2025-07-23T03:48:00+00:00

Yeah it does but it's one of those fuck around and find out moment and men aren't gonna give a fuck when women start complaining about the men that decide they'll do something about it. I wish no harm on anyone but I wont save any of you women either fuck that white knight ahit.

frutigeraerolover · 2025-07-23T04:11:29+00:00

For one, there are no studies that link misandry as a direct link to more female homicide and SA besides a few one off cases that aren’t enough to create a concrete link, secondly misogynists and the overall oppression of women has existed for centuries, do I think misandry is pointless, for sure, but do I also think that there is no comparison to be made between misogyny and misandry given the effects of both are in no way comparable.

2025-07-23T00:02:08+00:00

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ThrowRABigStoveTV · 2025-07-23T00:17:53+00:00

Honestly, I don’t really love the words misogyny and misandry to characterize a lot of gender-based biases. They are just catch all terms for a lot of unique and complex problems each gender faces.

I know you’re saying two wrongs doesn’t make a right, which I get, but you lost me with the whole women shouldn’t support misandry just because it creates more misogynists.

cutegolpnik · 2025-07-23T00:28:05+00:00

So how did misogyny exist before feminism then…

Confident_Counter471 · 2025-07-23T00:46:30+00:00

Ok you keep using what you see online causing men to become misogynist. But do you not think that women being subjected to in real life misogyny (not just random people online) like getting grabbed and harassed since puberty might make them misandrist? The starting point is men teaching women to hate them starting at 11 years old with the staring, grabbing, and cornering. Women dont hate men just because…I have a lot of sympathy for men but takes like this make it hard to take men seriously.

DelDivision · 2025-07-23T05:13:31+00:00

Yeah im not a fan of the left hiding behind power levels to excuse shit they wouldnt tolerate from others. Not everyone is gonna be cool with being bashed just cause they belong to a group that did something wrong.

griii2 · 2025-07-23T07:28:21+00:00

Btw, misandry kills more than misogyny, ppeople just don't want to to see it.

Disastrous-Sound-694 · 2025-07-23T01:10:58+00:00

Misandrists are a result of misogyny.

Title	Misandry creates MORE misogynists.
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Misogyny creates misandry.