I'll take a common example:
Woman X goes to the gym wearing clothes that violate modesty;
Woman X turns on the camera in the gym while she works out, framing herself and the men in the gym;
Woman X posts the video on the internet and calls the men she framed who looked at her perverts, creepy, etc.
Then I see the comments:
Woman A:
Until when will we women be harassed? Gyms should prohibit men from entering;
Woman B:
Can't men go to the gym just to work out? Do they really need to do this to women?
Woman C:
Women should have the right to do what they want and not be sexually objectified, men are the ones who need to change;
Woman D:
Don't try to tell women what to do, but rather tell men to respect them regardless.
That's my point. Woman X is obviously wrong, yet women in general defend this type of behavior.
What women don't understand is that defending this type of female behavior only trivializes real harassment, this type of trivialization is something that negatively affects women who have actually been harassed.
Another thing.
If men A, B and C are perverts and harassers for looking at woman X for 1 or 2 seconds, then what should we call woman X who filmed them without their consent? Imagine if it were the opposite, imagine a man at the gym filming women exercising without their consent, of course you would think he is a crazy person generating content to masturbate to later, but men don't do that, right?
I think that if women want to be taken more seriously in their demands, they should stop supporting obviously wrong demands, and stop defending wrong women just because of group ideology.
A question that makes it very clear whether the opinion is honest or whether it is a group bias is to ask:
"And if we reversed the genders, what would the opinion of these same women be?"
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