To preface: I'm an autistic woman (prof diagnosed 2009) who's had to deal with toxic neurotypical women bullying me my whole life, so I understand women can be genuinely evil and should be held accountable for it. However, what I've seen on this sub, has been completely out of control hatred. Mind you, I don't think that level of misandry is okay either.

But even when I've been on online hardcore feminist spaces, I've never seen the sheer amount of violent, hateful rhetoric towards men as I've seen towards women on purple pill debate and on comment sections of culture war/manosphere videos.

People say this is due to men not being able to find a wife and deprived of company. I can understand that and be charitable to the fact that loneliness is hard and can put people in a very dark place mentally.

But for example in the subreddit where men talk about how they've found submissive women in other countries. They still talk about how bad and ugly and masculine western women are. (This is not about race, I am talking about countries).
If one has happily found a submissive wife, why care about these supposed undesirable women and how they're going to "die alone with no husband or kids".

Especially if these women are so evil and toxic anyways, if they did have kids, their kids would probably cut them off at 18 and never speak to them again. So why care about them?

I remember one time in this sub, I simply said how I was concerned with the idea of dating someone who posts violent rhetoric online about women, and these rage-filled rants. Similar to how it would be reasonable for a man to not want to date a woman who posted misandrist things. I was accused of being "aggressive" and "unfeminine" for calmly stating how I would not want someone with those thoughts and impulses to be married to me and possibly dealing with a screaming newborn with me.

Another time I made a basic philosophical argument on why it does not matter if a woman has kids or not. Based on pascal's wager (I was trying to say, whether there's an eternal heaven or there's eternal oblivion, it doesn't matter if you spent your life popping out 8 kids and being submissive, especially in the heat death of the universe). I was then screamed out how I was "trying to sound smart" and how I was just a "delusional woman who believes in sky daddy". (which had nothing to do with it)

Not to when I've seen people say stuff on here that they want women to get mauled by bears while men laugh. Or that women who died taking selfies "deserved it for being narcissistic". (Despite the fact women tend to be more social, and studies have shown it has nothing to do with vanity and selfies have more to do with capturing a moment and sharing it with friends)

This kind of bad faith attitude makes it impossible to engage in any objective gender debate. I refuse to use dating apps, but dating-wise I do not care about height or income and all the men I have a crush on have been 5'7. What makes me not want to date someone is saying this stuff about women. When I see comments talking about "disciplining women like toddlers" it makes me want to be miles away from that person.