Most advice targeted at men here is to make them wait until they are too old to do anything

Mauf066 · 2023-12-04T16:19:01+00:00

Yeah it's horrible advice. Even if you do manage to improve your overall "SMV" when you're in your 30s, you'll still need social skills you gain in your teens and 20s to take advantage of that. If you're a rich 30 year old who fell for the monk mode meme and just focused on finances and nothing else, you'll just attract gold diggers.

Kosilica457 · 2023-12-04T19:45:38+00:00

Most "advice" is aimed at putting men on the self-improvement treadmill with a promise of getting into a healthy and loving relationship while it mainly serves to give them sth to do and potentially to find something to give them happiness outside of dating

thisreallyisnotok · 2023-12-05T09:21:10+00:00

Why does this sub think 30 year old men (when men are most attractive) have to date single moms? Like you can date women in their 20s if you want.

MGTOWManofMystery · 2023-12-04T19:17:54+00:00

Men give advice to women that optimizes male sexual strategies; women give advice to men that optimizes female sexual strategies. We shouldn't be surprised by this.

M_LaSalle · 2023-12-04T17:34:20+00:00

One of the problems you run into when advising men who struggle with dating is that the actionable solutions available mostly take (And possibly waste) a great deal of time. Self-improvement isn't bad advice, it's actually very good advice, but female hypergamy being what it is, the poor fellow simply may not be able to improve himself enough on any kind of reasonable time scale, if he can do so at all.

Men should always work to better themselves, because life is hard and they are going to have to meet it head on, with or without a woman. But I have also become deeply pessimistic about the prospects for most sexless men. I honestly believe that for most of them, there is probably no actionable solution. Society would probably do well to legalize escorting, because most of these guys are really being offered false hope, and that's cruel.

There's things that men need to do differently, and there are things that society, if it wants to self perpetuate, is going to have to do differently. I won't go into those here. Young men, no matter how much they work to improve themselves, are weak individually. But together they are mighty, and one day a leader and a movement will make them aware of this. On that day, America will change, and not necessarily for the better.

A lot of bad advice is offered in good faith and I don't think OP fully appreciates this, but a lot of good advice doesn't lead, even if taken to a good outcome.

Listen-Natural · 2023-12-04T22:24:47+00:00

Why is it that virtually every woman I know tends to date someone that is more educated, makes more money than them, if what your saying isn’t true? Do you think you will ever see a female lawyer dating a dude that cuts hair???

I think the general advice, is get your shit together to not rely on a girl to make you happy, there isn’t anything wrong with that advice. Some men it takes them a long time until their 30s, others that have daddy money and are spoonfed thru life may have an easier time in regards to achieving wealth, higher education and better opportunities.

EulenWatcher · 2023-12-04T16:27:00+00:00

I think most advice is to improve yourself and keep trying to date. Go to the gym, go to therapy, work on your social skills and widen your social circle - to do all of it you don't have to become a hermit with no human contact till your 30s, you do the opposite of it.

wtknight · 2023-12-04T16:33:23+00:00

Are people saying to work on oneself and to also not pursue women? I wasn't aware anyone was saying that. Obviously one shouldn't just give up just because one is also simultaneously working on oneself.

Mr_KenSpeckle · 2023-12-04T22:40:38+00:00

I’ve been saying for years that Red Pill has some good advice, but that this thing about you have to be older before you can have success with women is just idiotic. Some guys will come right out and say it. Some guys just imply it. Some guys who say it or imply it, when directly challenged on it, will say “Oh no, of course you should still be shooting your shot with women as you are improving”, but that’s not really what they spend 99% of their time talking about.

There are exceptions, but as a rule a guy will never have a better shot at women in their 20’s as he does when he is in his 20’s. Money and status, while relevant, are massively overstated as factors of success with young women. There are seasons in life, and as a rule the biggest success factors with young women are being good looking and being charming.

TheGreatBeefSupreme · 2023-12-05T13:50:20+00:00

Self improvement is certainly possible, but it’s more limited in efficacy than a lot of people seem to think. For the most part, you either have it or you don’t. You’re either successful with women for you’re not. There isn’t much you can do to change this, though some self improvement is possible.

Hi-Road · 2023-12-04T20:25:49+00:00

The thing is, it’s great advice for literally every aspect of life except getting women. Your life will definitely improve by a lot

Disastrous_Hippo_661 · 2023-12-06T04:15:02+00:00

I implore you to take a look at a lot of the bluepiller profiles here and their posting history. You'll find a disturbing amount of overlap with the antinatalism sub. Then it all starts to click, bluepillers like incels *exactly* where they are, because it means they won't ever have children. Stop listening to people who don't want you to succeed.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2023-12-04T16:20:15+00:00

Ok, so what other choice this men would have? Tell us.

Lettuce_Taco_Bout_It · 2023-12-05T00:55:34+00:00

Men do not age out of the dating market because as we get older we tend to have the qualities which women want. We do not become less attractive over time at least until we are in our mid-fifties.

At 40 , I get more attention from women than I ever would have expected to be possible. Of all ages and socio-econimic status. And, of course. the fact that I am unavailable and wear an engagement ring on only makes that attention all the more obscene and aggresive.

Women are the gatekeepers of sex and men are the gatekeepers of relationships. As you age the latter becomes far more important and valuable than the former. You will not have a shortage of options when you get to my age but in the west there is a shortage of women who want to be wives, so make sure you understand what your priorities are and if that includes a long-term relationship , communicate that early on because otherwise people will be more than happy to waste your time.

Otherwise, you live in the best time to have all the casual and meaningless sex which you could desire.

Please note: I am not reccomending marriage in the west but personally I find unserious relationships to be a waste of time and I am sure that I'm not alone in that

TreeFeller27 · 2023-12-04T22:03:17+00:00

From my personal experience, I was not able to show up as a healthy romantic partner, or as a man; until I put in that "work" towards my healing, growth, and development. I don't believe there's any specific age or timeline, so many factors come into play when it comes to growing into the human we are capable of being. But I do believe, that MOST men, aren't going to mature to a point of being a good man and healthy partner, until their early to mid-thirties. Potentially later. I don't think it's about raising your sexual marketplace value, I believe it's about learning how to navigate the world with confidence and grace. To stand firm in your ground as a man, and having brought clarity and acceptance to the man you're capable of being; and began consciously and actively growing in to that potential. I also believe, you're going to attract a partner of an equal or lesser level of maturity and direction.

Tight-Breeder · 2023-12-05T15:01:57+00:00

Bluepill advice and advice from women are trash.

Thats why redpill exists.

bruhminer · 2023-12-05T15:23:09+00:00

The "just wait till your 30 bro" is the most asinine garbage talking point these redpillers have and has probably handicapped more young men than any other other shit advice.

wheartv · 2023-12-05T17:50:05+00:00

Most women do not understand men at all because they don’t care to and don’t have to.

About as far as many get is thinking they can manipulate experienced middle aged men with their aging vagina like we are still in high school.

Azweik · 2023-12-04T17:35:52+00:00

I think you should do everything at the same time.

I mean you can say " ok lets try to get in shape and loose some weight for 3 months or so"

Or I will really concentrate on finding a Job right now.

But overall I would not say, you should aspiere to get to some " point X", before you even try, live is not an RPG.

SillyMushroomTip · 2023-12-04T18:55:15+00:00

Grew up with this nonsense advice my entire 20s. Its just cope pills that women spit out while there having a field day with the endless dudes she swipes on Tinder.

DeliveryBoy1821 · 2023-12-04T16:41:34+00:00

Kinda. I don't think anyone explicitly says that but people do grossly exaggerate the bar to get girls, and that makes it way less likely that those guys will have the confidence to go for dates.

I lost my virginity when I was 18 and weighed 115 pounds, and I didn't have a car. I rode my bike 4 miles to the first date. According to a lot of both redpill and BP people this should be impossible and all the girls around my age were fucking established 30 year olds or something.

When you see this stuff repeated online that skinny guys can't get girls, or awkward guys can't get girls, or young guys can't etc etc.. there's some truth to it, but at the end of the day the vast majority of men can get laid if they just try hard enough. I will say though, being 21 now and not looking like a total skeleton and having a bit more experience. it's definitely easier. But I'm sure as hell glad I didn't take any pills as a 18 year old.

januaryphilosopher · 2023-12-04T16:16:59+00:00

Working on yourself doesn't mean you can't date now. Indeed, working on yourself often includes actually asking people on dates rather than just thinking about it. It means becoming a better person rather than worse, but there's no reason you can't do that while trying to date or even in a relationship. Of course people are more likely to date certain kinds of people, and the further along your journey of working yourself you are the more likely getting a date will be, but that doesn't mean you can only find a date once you're somehow "done" (as if anyone is).

AoAlfaric · 2023-12-04T17:29:14+00:00

Yep. Men are constantly told they aren't good enough.

shmupsy · 2023-12-04T18:17:26+00:00

In my early 30s, I pulled a much younger girl LTR from cold approach in a store.

Flightlessbirbz · 2023-12-04T21:16:58+00:00

I never encourage anyone to just sit around and wait, that is bad advice. However, some people are only like 16-20 and already feeling like they are hopeless, and that’s when it’s time for a reality check and to quit stressing so much. I was one of those people - 17 and freaking out because I’d never been asked on a date. Things do change once you become an adult. That doesn’t mean just sit at home and don’t try, but it does mean to stop self-sabotaging with panic.

On the other hand, yes it is delusional to think that if nobody is interested when you’re 25 that at 40 you will magically become a wealthy and attractive older man who dates lots of women in their 20s. There is a middle ground here.

xxTheMagicBulleT · 2023-12-05T13:29:12+00:00

All sides give horrible advice.

And often selfish and shortsighted advice.

Feminism yea girl be hoes. Do whatever you want girl. Cheat and fuck around endlessly

Later How dare you not accept me for my past choices!!!

Same with the grind set men mentality. Its breaking your back and your self. To gain a empty sighted girls or partners that dont care about you but what you offer.

Both sides are wrong. Both the extreme left or the extreme right way. Is wrong. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Where both sides investing in people.

But also held accountable for actions and choices they made.

Cause both sides the past matter. If a boy or girl whent to jail for some shit. It matter right. And the more failed relationships also matter.

It can easily tell you if a relationship is worth investing in. Cause if there has been 50 relationships before you. Its easy to understand there wil definitely be a 52 after you. And thats for men and women. Cause for men being a hoe also is disgusting to me

But women show that they care less about that. Wail it is easy to see for women that he is less likely to be a serious relationship that's ever gonna go somewhere.

Men look more for that. Is the relationship worth investing in or not.

But both sides look at different things more in relationships. But both sides have gone to more and more extremes.

Like feminists demanding this so we go even more extrame to the right side.. all men should be demanding this and this now.

Its a pointless game. That has almost no winners but almost only losers.

But that game wont change till there is a bigger message of the middle ground. That both sides should investing in each other that they should give what the other want. Wail wants respiratory back.

When the most extreme shocking things being said get stopped being glorified online. And being more normal and being a good or great person.

Then i think the more extreme views will die down. And you will see more people actually accepting each other.

But the most outrageous things. Get views get likes. Get shock value get shared. And so rack in a ton of money.

But those people are not good role models for women for men. For kids. Wont me good fathers or mothers. Or good for community or society.

Being selfish in every part of life like those people learn people to be. Is a very empty and miserable outlook on life. Even if you do make it and get rich. Like the rich guys are or the models that are super rich of online fans or what ever way.

Those did it at the cost often of frends of family of relationships. They are often rich. But no one like them for how crazy selfish they are. And when they lose the money or have a hard time. No one will really be there for them. Thats the truth. When you live in a super selfish manner. You living a life of being very very alone. And thats what most the extrame both left and right sides teach the people.

Be selfish put only yourself first always forever. And when you put only your self first always. In time you wil be alone. Cause you burned every road along the way.

And tons of people don't make that bag of money. And burned every bridge in their selfishness for nothing. And thats the reality of the the choices they made.

That both men and women are being lied too of there respective group that act like being selfish has no consequences to them in the long run. Or even on the other side. Like men thinking women are dumb or women thinking men are dumb. And them pushing weird extreme things won't make a more extreme call on the other side.

You gotta give to get. You gotta give respect to be worth getting respect. You gotta be good for people to expect people being good to you back.

This the simple fact people gotta understand. And that online talk and shows are not real life.

mlo9109 · 2023-12-10T17:19:57+00:00

This is the case regardless of gender. Female version:

Go to college and get a career before settling down so you can support yourself if/when your husband leaves/dies. And while you're in school, don't even look at a boy sideways or you'll get pregnant and die!
The day after college graduation, the same parent who gave you advice #1 asks you where their grandbabies are

PeterWritesEmails · 2023-12-04T17:26:12+00:00

woman takes matters into her hands

empowered, girl boss, slay queen!"

guy does the same

creep! incel! predator!

SupposedlySapiens · 2023-12-04T17:27:25+00:00

I don’t understand the premise of the post. Who is telling men that they can’t simultaneously date and work on themselves? Since when are those two things mutually exclusive?

Schmurby · 2023-12-04T17:56:47+00:00

Here’s the best bit of advice ever: enjoy yourself!

If you’re having fun, if you dance and sing and tell jokes and smile at people. If you enjoy the company of the opposite sex and don’t spent all your time worrying about whether or not they fancy you or resenting them for liking other people, you’re going to come off as much more likable and attractive.

Gold pill.

BatemaninAccounting · 2023-12-04T20:52:38+00:00

People date and marry in their 30s, 40s, 50s, and even 60s. Most people are delaying such things in their 20s and are focusing more on very late 20s, to late 30s for marriage. Guys shouldn't be told to 'wait' but at the same time, it's not the end of the world if they do.

MrBrittle · 2023-12-04T16:52:51+00:00

There are younger women who want men with an already formed and well-established personality.

My girlfriend is one of them.

So the options for a 30-year-old man are not only more single or divorced, but also 23-year-old women who are not superficial.

They are a minority, but they are worth it.

WilliamWyattD · 2023-12-04T18:01:25+00:00

You are conflating the individual and the society level pictures. On an individual level, you have to adapt to the reality you are in. It could be that the picture you paint of a guy being unable to attract any women until he is 30 might be the best a given guy can do. Life is tragic. Not being flip.

Now, on a societal level, if that seems to be happening to too many young men, we may want to investigate why, and see if there is anything that can be done to improve the situation. But as an individual, you can't hope for these types of big social changes to come in time to help you out. Have to assume they won't happen and plan accordingly.

SeveralLiterature980 · 2023-12-04T20:14:54+00:00

I disagree that 1 and 2 are "most advice targeted at men."

A man who "works on himself" in his 20's, i.e. gets fit, gets educated, gets a career, and gets his income on track will be in a good position during his 30's.

People who bemoan "social skills" have fallen for society's nonsensical reification of "social skill" as something other than a basic innate ability we all have. Social acumen is merely the ability to recognize and maintain, defend, or increase one's place in the current social hierarchy. These ranks are assigned democratically based on any particular group's demographics.

A man who "improves himself" for literally a decade will see his "social skills" naturally 'increase' because he will simply be granted increasing status in most group hierarchies. So being more outgoing and vocal in social settings will become more and more natural and feel more correct to him.

AceOfSpadesGymBro3 · 2023-12-04T19:47:06+00:00

Literally no one is advising that. You guys are so terrified of interacting and connecting with other human beings, that you cause your own problems.

Dry-Cricket3524 · 2023-12-04T17:07:54+00:00

No one outside of weird echo chambers thinks 30s is old

Traditional-Good1724 · 2023-12-04T18:04:23+00:00

self-improvement" did at least partially make blakpill stuff like "looksmaxxing" go mainstream recently and its only gonna get more toxic I'm afraid.

there is even Looksmaxxing simulator on Roblox LMAO 😂

stancedpolestar · 2023-12-04T18:05:38+00:00

32M, I honestly could care less if I ever find someone or not, I've got my own happy life I've built for myself. Spent my 20s building a capital investments firm and scaling it, I've got awesome hobbies, and I'm a small engine hobby pilot and have my own small engine aircraft as well.

4 years ago I tried dating and tried the apps and it only took a few weeks to realize nobody on the apps is serious about finding anyone, so I immediately deleted my profile and the apps and haven't tried again since.

If women want to judge me for not following society's rules and getting married in my 20s and having kids, then that's a reflection on them and their weird mindset, and not a reflection of me. I'm happy where I'm at and in no rush to get married or find a relationship.

If it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't.

ApprehensiveAsk3377 · 2023-12-05T01:49:54+00:00

I don’t give a shit about this on a personal level but the dating market is fucked when females keep going for older men.

This creates a pipelining issue where the newest crop of guys have to wait till they’re like 28 to have sex with the 21 year old girls and the cycle continues for the current 21 year olds shit system we need to blow it up.

Safinated · 2023-12-04T18:23:12+00:00

You got an alt, bro?

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/144fc6s/pretty_much_every_advice_targeted_at_men_is_to/

The most common advice targeted at men here is to go out, touch grass and socialize

Which, I assure you, can be done immediately

LillthOfBabylon · 2023-12-04T16:35:03+00:00

If these guys were doing well on their own, they wouldn't be in this situation of being lonely and complaining about it.

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harmonica2 · 2023-12-04T17:13:14+00:00

I'm doing a lot better in my 30s them in my twenties and I have a long-term girlfriend now so could that mean that the red pill advice was accurate in the sense that it's better in your thirties if you work on yourself?

FromAuntToNiece · 2023-12-05T01:42:27+00:00

start hitting your 30s alone and inexperienced

Should be 40s, not 30s.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2023-12-04T17:11:43+00:00

its implication are nonetheless that women don't want you because you aren't "self-actualized" in neoliberal sense: not having the right career, the right education, the right social life, the right fit body, the right conversation skills,

This is a harsh truth but it's reality. If you had all those things you wouldn't have any issues dating

Imagine then a guy spending his 20/30s believing he is single and unable to get a date because he is unremarkable and lacking, restlessly improving and grinding, thinking to himself, I'm getting there one day... only to wake up in his late 30s single and inexperienced he certainly won't be in the same "life stage" as his dating pool of divorcees and single moms

Welll, If he's smart he would only casually date women his age and when he's ready to settle down either go ten years younger or date foreign women

BlueMountainDace · 2023-12-04T17:36:24+00:00

That would be terrible advice, but it isn't the advice anyone gives. Frankly, as I see it, it is a response to people saying they're not having luck, not a baseline goal to accomplish before trying to meet women.

If you're having no success with women, the only thing you can do is work on yourself - your game, your career, your looks, etc - but the advice isn't to wait till you're a retired 60 year-old millionaire.

John_Oakman · 2023-12-04T17:09:37+00:00

So what makes the divorcees and single mothers not at the same life stage as those males who finally got their life together a decade behind the norm? If anything aren't the two effectively equivalents?

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Rook_Cross · 2023-12-04T17:33:36+00:00

It's bad advice, coming from bad people, to bad people. Because both the givers and receivers of the advice are the kind of people to delude themselves (psychologically prone to this stuff due to genetic traits,) it's hard to convince them they are wrong, even when they can sometimes see gaps in their "logical". Just look at some of the comments on your post here and see the true believers. They take bad advice, which they don't often even do, then give up when they don't get results and claim they never had a chance. In so far as they had a serious problem, like a personality disorder, that might have been true. Had they worked on their problem, their actual problems with they way they think about things, went to a proper therapist, then they might have had success. They don't want real advice. They want someone to tell them it's not their fault, women are the axis of evil and here's how you get a harem, then are surprised when things fall through. Life is short and will move along without you. Waiting around for life to happen won't do it. Spending time trying to re-enforce delusions won't do it. They need to work on themselves in the right way, stop consuming content that hurts others, and themselves, stop comparing themselves to others and start valuing what is actually good. They also need to realize they have only themselves to blame, take on some humility. If they're talking blue/red/black pill advice, they're already deep into the problem. They have to accept they aren't entitled to anything, that other people (particularly women, who yes, are people) exist and have their own lives going on, be respectful of that and try to understand that life is give and take, not all about them. they won't though and you'll see the same posts here, over and over again, and on forums like this. Even this post is a re-hash. The advice is nonsensical because it's nonsense. Look to actual experts for advice, not RP reprobates.

AFuzzyMuffin · 2023-12-04T20:28:06+00:00

no it’s not because u literally can improve urself in one year most of the times lol

Fun_Push7168 · 2023-12-04T21:09:41+00:00

If you're doing anything at all right you won't make it long at all without some experience.

The advice that runs that way should actually read more like keep improving and in your 30s+ it only gets easier.

In the meantime yeah you gotta have something going . You're only going to improve from your base. So it's not like everything magically happens because you got older.

Terrible_Lift · 2023-12-04T23:18:50+00:00

Most of the legitimate advice given is shit that should have been developed or picked up over the course of one’s life through trial and error, observation, etc.

I’m kind of scared for the future generations

EffectiveAsparagus89 · 2023-12-05T01:44:24+00:00

Too true. Just take the blackpill and looksmax. Hustle on YOUR LOOKS. The blackpill truth is too hard to swallow, so people take the redpill to postpone the blackpill till it's too late. Looksmaxx

rootsnyder · 2023-12-05T03:56:55+00:00

No its just most people have no idea what they're talking about.

Your social skills and ability to develop social networks are the core of your smv as a man. Develop your social skills, and every other aspect of your self continuously so you can settle for a better partner.

SmallSituation6432 · 2023-12-05T11:26:39+00:00

It will absolutely take a long time to improve yourself when the starting point is that women are selfish materialists incapable of love that only want to take advantage of you and anything you do for them that doesn't result in sex is simping and a failure of masculinity.

That is where many many guys on here are at. This is why when possible I try to point out where the logic that brought them to that conclusion is wrong. As long as they keep thinking the same way that brought them to those conclusions, progress is not being made. At all. Many of my posts are just pointing out the shitty framing of an argument.

So yeah, when discussing guys on PPD, or deep in TRP, the long game really is the only answer. That's not most guys though. Most guys that are having dating trouble are already halfway up that mountain so to speak.

Case in point, why would you frame looksmaxxing as a black-pill thing? trying your best to look good to improve your dating life is not some novel idea. That has always been the advice. Maybe I just don't know the particulars of looksmaxxing and its just as warped as red pill has become, but it is weird that x-pill people always try to frame every idea as being particular to that pill.

The entire concept behind TRP when it began was to focus young men on the idea that you actually have to put in effort if you want to improve your dating life. That was it. Advice for ways to accomplish that, framed in relatable, focused ways. It wasn't some new thing reinventing dating, and it didn't claim to be. Now every RP post is some bullshit about how society is wrong and the world is on the brink of collapse.

Or how xyz is proof the world is becoming more toxic and only headed downhill. You all think you are Nietzshe's madman, but you are just the guy yelling about aliens on a street corner day in and day out.

Chokeman · 2023-12-05T15:12:31+00:00

I just stopped taking this sub seriously after seeing comments like "working class guys having an easier time with women", bro have you seen the women those guys fucked ??

it's either too redpill or too bluepill. there's no middle ground here. you'll struggle in life hard if you take this sub seriously.

Simpleeegood47 · 2023-12-06T02:14:25+00:00

Be brave enough to date whoever you want… of legal age. Most important is if you relate to one another. Make each other happy. Don’t take advantage.

mc0079 · 2023-12-06T12:45:46+00:00

I have never seen any of this advice. These are strawmen you have created. The most constant advice I see here is "touch grass" and many dudes here refuse to do it.

Freevoulous · 2023-12-06T14:31:21+00:00

the main, glaring problem of what you describe is men going on Self-Improvement bend with the goal of impressing women, rather the more rational idea of Self-Improvement for your own sake.

self-actualized" in neoliberal sense: not having the right career, the right education, the right social life, the right fit body, the right conversation skills, the right emotional intelligence...

All of those things above are worth doing and having for their own sake. Gay guys still follow their careers. Asexual guys still go to the gym. Hell, frickin' celibate Shaolin monks get super ripped, and they never even interact with women! Leonardo Da Vinci, arguably the greatest mind of all time, inventor, scientist, medic and artist, a guy strong and buff enough to bend horseshoes effortlessly while in his late 60s - was voluntarily celibate asexual.

You are supposed to self-actualise for your self, its literally in the fucking name. If it leads to women becoming interested in you? Cool. If not? Who cares. If you are focused enough on your improvement and happiness, you are unlikely to even notice. Ideally, you should have such a full, fun and deep life that if a woman showed interest in you, you would be confused, surprised, and even mildly annoyed that she is distracting you from more important things.

You can wait however fucking long you want, even die a virgin. Its not absolutely necessary to get a relationship, it neither improves or damages your happiness. Sex is great, it is fun, but not that much more fun than say, riding a motorcycle or I dunno, kite-surfing.

Women are fun to have in your life, but so are chinchillas, or rollerblades, or pizza rolls. No need to lose your mind over not having a GF. It is as absurd as losing your mind over not having PS5 at home.

LingonberryNo578 · 2023-12-07T19:58:36+00:00

Ya short women should have to abort male offspring because they will most likely be short and in future give women the ick"

EugeneCezanne · 2024-01-02T01:35:41+00:00

The thing about dramatically improving your mind, body, style and life is that it works. Not for everyone everything—and out of a large population the percentage it doesn't work for still adds up to a large figure who can all then complain on the internet about it. The other thing is that improving those things is its own reward: even if you don't get better with women, you still get all of the stuff you worked for.

But I would never tell a young man to stop pursuing women entirely until they reach a certain level. Steph curry didn't get good by NOT practicing 3 pointers.

Title	Most advice targeted at men here is to make them wait until they are too old to do anything
Author	Napo_De_Leone
Upvotes	311
Comments	370
Date	December 4, 2023 4:12 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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