What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."

AcesHigh256 · 2021-03-06T20:43:14+00:00

I had a friend (not with benefits, just a friend) who was a single mom. I don't think until after I really got to know her how miserably exhausting it is to be a single working mother. Her toddler was a little bundle of energy who wanted nothing more than to be chased in circles until he was too tired to stand, and he always had to be the center of attention. Her whole life was: wake up, go to work, pick up her kid from daycare, and spend every remaining minute of consciousness looking after him. Literally every minute: he couldn't go to sleep without her lying next to him, so that was the end of her day. Whenever I played a game like tag with him, she would always tell me not to get him wound up, because then he'd just that much harder to calm down for a moment's peace. Just no escape.

I know kids don't appear out of nowhere, and everyone is responsible for their own decisions, but boy am I glad I don't have to worry about that being me.

LeatherDifference583 · 2021-03-06T20:53:24+00:00

My friend kinda got shafted with custody of his children and it generally broke my heart.

Perfect dad, very involved with his boys but he can only see them every second weekend for two days.

_Neon_Shadow_ · 2021-03-06T19:32:58+00:00

I talked to this chick for a while and she told me about the guys she hooked up with and dated. She showed me the text they sent, and it was absolutely nuts. There was this white guy she matched with on OLD, after I encouraged her to give him a chance, because she didn't date outside her race.

This dude basically had a mental breakdown because she didn't text back fast enough. He accused her of not liking him "like all the other girls." He also hid that he had no teeth, until this little episode. Years ago, he sank into depression; stopped brushing his teeth and caring for himself. Keep in mind, all of this is totally unprompted, she didn't insult him or anything. She was actually interested before he lost his shit. But wow. I got no words.

Dudes flying off the handle in her DMs and I'm just aghast. She was barely phased because this wasn't even the worst of it. The stories she would tell... wow. I consider myself a solid 5, but after hearing that shit, I seriously had to reevaluate my life lol. Like, holy shit, is this what women have to deal with? I dont envy women in that aspect. Yeah, I want to have more options, but if they behaved like the men she dated... pass. The men out here are more tragic and pressed than I imagined. You guys need therapy or something.

nyclaurco · 2021-03-06T23:19:16+00:00

i’m highly pink pilled, but i feel quite bad for men with micro penises. a guy can be sexy as hell, fun, successful, and genuinely kind, but having less than a pinky in his pants can deter even the brokest, nastiest, pickme women. i feel for them because it’s not a character flaw that they could work on or a hideous nose that they can surgically fix. it’s also synonymous with bad character and a response to when men are being sexist and gross.

even if they find a mate, their mate is settling for that part of them; either that, or it’s someone with a condition that prevents them from being penetrated. i’m not talking about a smallish member since some women prefer smaller, some prefer average, and some prefer larger. i’m talking about an actual nub, like the kind of thing that makes people gasp when pants are dropped. there is nothing equivalent on a woman’s body - small breasts and no ass don’t make sex feel like nothing to men.

mxp68 · 2021-03-06T18:41:39+00:00

Here’s the dumb thing about this, this woman’s story could happen to anyone. A weapon changes the entire story. Even GymRat Chad couldn’t defend her if the felon had a weapon. If she wants real protection she should find a man with wealth. Location is the best defense against violent crime.

There was a female incel sub before being banned. There are women suffering from unfixable problems and guys treat them as invisible.

Soon-to-be-Catlady · 2021-03-06T19:46:11+00:00

I have friend (30m) that IMO is above average in looks, is friendly, funny, smart. But he is a virgin because he's shy and doesn't approach women. In our mid twenties we went out partying quite often and he didn't get any female attention 99% of the time. That's where I as a woman just have a massive advantage. I just needed to give a few guys a deep look and a smile and eventually someone would dance with me.

Flightlessbirbz · 2021-03-07T00:04:32+00:00

I’m sympathetic to the fact that men are expected to do the majority of approaching/initiating since I’m quite introverted and shy myself. I can see how that would suck even more as a man.

slavicslothe · 2021-03-06T20:34:13+00:00

I’m a paramedic. Last year I was called to a rape victim who after meeting her tinder date was penetrated anally with a metal bar and gang raped by 5 men. They let her out of their van at Walmart and some passerby called 911. She died of blood-loss on the way to the hospital, the guys were never caught.

angels-fan · 2021-03-06T19:58:45+00:00

Being sexually harassed at an early age.

Yeah, I've been groped before, but it didn't even phase me like most men.

Women have such a different reaction to unwanted sexual attention than men do and it sucks that they get it so often.

thetruthishere_ · 2021-03-06T21:43:21+00:00

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2021-03-07T00:38:38+00:00

I don't know about dating struggles, but one of my ex's was date raped while passed out, one was molested by a grandfather as child, one developed an eating disorder and many of them were sexually harassed at work. Two of them became single moms at a young age, and that was its own Herculean struggle.

I wouldn't say any women I have known (outside of really obese women) has ever had any trouble getting men, but this doesn't mean women don't endure hardships.

mountainofjoy · 2021-03-07T01:43:55+00:00

So many things, really. (I’m a woman)

The idea of being expected to initiate relationships and doing “the asking out” - I’d never be so brave. Y’all are amazing for having the courage to ask women out, especially frequently and with lots of rejections.

I feel bad for guys who just want a stable, traditional relationship with the date/marry/kids timeline since it’s legitimately rare to find women with those values these days (it’s rare to find anyone with those values so I feel equally for women who want the same thing but we’re talking about fellas right now).

I feel bad for guys with no male role models to show them how to do relationships.

I feel bad for guys who feel desperate and hopeless about ever getting into a relationship. Not to the point of being ok with incel behavior, but I know it does suck.

And I feel really really really bad for the guys who are looked down on or automatically labeled gay for things like: being short, liking the arts, dressing creatively, being genuinely kind to women, having emotional maturity, etc. it actually takes a lot of guts and self confidence to be open about liking those kinds of things and a lot of work and maturity to be mentally and emotionally healthy and I feel like guys get a lot of “haha fag” comments from fellow men after all that effort.

sweatyapplejuice · 2021-03-07T00:32:31+00:00

i dated a former incel. before dating him i had very little knowledge about TRP or the incel community, and going through that relationship made me sympathize but also realize that TRP is a serious threat to society. he treated me horribly, always put me down, and lied about having slept with all these women. he would talk about how fat some of them were and make up these stories where he'd say something really mean to them then say he didnt care if he hurt their feelings because he hated all of them and just wanted them for sex. keep in mind these were all made up. for ex, he once told me a story about how he met up with this girl but she was so fat he told her he couldn't do it.

he would get visibly upset if i ever got an academic concept he didn't (we go to the same university), and admitted he'd be upset if i made more money than him when we graduated. he tried pressuring/guilt tripping me into having a threesome with him and would say that girls who arent into threesomes are insecure and lame. i started eating like a meal a day and lost like 20 pounds which he knew i was doing to please him (i went from a BMI of like 21 to 18) and he would tell me i looked so much better after i was underweight. i also later found out that some of these girls he lied about fucking were literally some of his friends or classmates he'd had crushes on in the past. He was essentially using real actual girls (some of whom he still talked to) in his little fantasy.

he became very dependant on me and would threaten to kill himself if i left him. it was a nightmare and i was genuinely a good partner to him the whole time. all of the terrible things he did were a result of his built up hatred for women and it eventually it cost him his girlfriend and left me with literal fucking trauma. all this being said, he was suicidal and in serious pain because of his struggle, and frankly i didn't know this was a common experience amongst men until i dated him. i now see the phenomenon of sexless men as a serious issue, not trivial and very damaging to the psyche. but, ive experienced first hand the damage from the hatred that incels have for women. anyone from that community who holds onto those thoughts is bound to end up causing hurt to anyone they end up in a relationship with.

Jambi1913 · 2021-03-07T01:35:41+00:00

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Mustbeaight · 2021-03-06T19:20:13+00:00

Of course. Anyone can if they just listen to other people. I started understanding what guys meant when they talked about being friend zoned. A guy talked about a woman he liked waking him up at 2am to give her a ride. And she has him drop her off at a guys house.

I can relate to one sided relationships so I could imagine how it makes men feel.

Or the ritual of buying a drink in a bar. It’s one of the ways guys signal I’d like to talk and see if it leads anywhere. One guy said he bought a woman a drink and she grabbed it and walked away without saying thank you. I can have empathy for men who have to take the initiative and navigate dating conventions.

It seems hard for some of the men here to take what women say as information at face value and to imagine what it’s like to be them and what they’d feel in a woman’s place.

Note, I could have figured that the guys were lying about their experience. That the dude who gave the woman a ride was just mad she didn’t owe him a fuck after the ride. Or the dude buying the drink was just mad she didn’t owe him a blow job in exchange for the drink. That what they said wasn’t really true because of things other men had said and done.

RandomUsernameSkrrrt · 2021-03-06T19:31:46+00:00

Sitting on a bench at campus watching people walk by realizing many men are treated like NPCs in the dating world (as well as world in general). They’re invisible to most and dignified with no salvaging intrinsic value that women might otherwise have. Because of this, there’s much more pressure to overachieve on them. Men taking difficult STEM classes are just expected to. Women taking difficult STEM classes are commended. Having one’s accomplishments and being mitigated off the basis of immutable qualities like sex is understandably disheartening (same applies to women and their oppression in the past, but it’s more a men’s issue nowadays with the way tides have turned, I feel).

washington_breadstix · 2021-03-07T00:57:07+00:00

The example that sticks out in my mind was when it dawned on me that the reason why women give "confusing" answers to being asked for a date/sex, as opposed to just being straightforward and honest, is probably because they've tried being straightforward in the past and were met with a negative or aggressive reaction from the guy. It's a learned response.

Whenever a guy asks "Why is this chick being so confusing?", the answer is because male behavioral patterns suggest that he has a very non-negligible chance of reacting violently or abusively when rejected outright. The woman in the scenario isn't going to be able to read his mind and tell whether he's one of the men who will react with a cool head, so she has to play it safe and assume he isn't. And the task of predicting a guy's reaction gets even trickier when you consider the fact that it's often the "nicest" guys who end up acting the most entitled when they are rejected.

I certainly do not envy women for having to face the burden of making a guy both understand and respect that she's saying "No".

_mwk · 2021-03-06T18:51:52+00:00

I have red this on Reddit, some girl was cheated on by her bf, she got STD, which caused infertility and I felt soooo bad for her...

IwillBeatGERD · 2021-03-06T18:42:31+00:00

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DP8414 · 2021-03-06T18:53:34+00:00

A couple months ago, when I was still on Twitter, one of the female channels I followed posted the music video for “You Broke Me First.” She said that boys need to pay attention to how you treat girls when they are teenagers, because the lyrics to that song are so many young girls’ journeys. This hit home with me.

One of the many ways that people like to “One Up” each other and prove how “sophisticated” they are is to claim that life isn’t a Disney film or a romance novel, and that men and women are much more “realistic” and “harder” in real life compared to those idealized characters. Which, ok, strictly speaking that’s true, but reading that tweet reminded me of how I used to feel about women, and what I still suspect about women:

Deep down, most of them are sweet, princess types who want to find “The One,” but starting in the teenage years, the coldness and harshness molds them into something different. Something selfish. Multiple bad experiences with men cauterizes their hearts. Once they are broken, they don’t really ever return to normal. They just chug through life hoping things will get better, but never expecting them to. Bitterness sets in, until one day, they find themselves surrounded by wine bottles and a herd of cats.

I think men play a large role in why women are the way they are today. Men didn’t create the 80/20 rule (or 60/20 rule, whatever it is), but we did make things worse by shattering the idealistic dreams of women from when they were young. I feel for them, in that specific regard.

Bandit174 · 2021-03-06T18:19:38+00:00

What happened in that scenario? Like did some random guy just break into their house and try to rape her?

Also was the issue that her bf didn't even try or that he tried and got his ass kicked?

Hoopy223 · 2021-03-06T17:50:03+00:00

I’m just glad I can pee standing up and don’t get a period once a month. Squishing spiders and driving a stick shift is fun too.

Terrorinthecity1 · 2021-03-06T23:58:57+00:00

I have a friend that’s kind of a loser. Smokes weed all day doesn’t work etc. I can get past all that but one of his main problems is that he’s so damn boring. We’ll be hot boxing in the car and I could be talking to him for 10 straight minutes and all he’ll do is nod, say a few yeahs. No input whatsoever. He is listening but just has nothing to say. Boring as hell.

I can only imagine what girls with their boyfriends or girls on a date feel like when the guy is boring. It’s like every minute I’m next to him he’s draining the life out of me. There are times where 4 of the bros are together and he’s quiet the whole time and I’m already thinking why did we bring him.

Now that’s my Homie and all but I truly understand why he can’t attract girls And I’m a guy saying this, that’s not good.

Ryuujinken · 2021-03-06T22:20:28+00:00

Poor woman tbh. Poor chap too.

xxxLemonation · 2021-03-06T20:03:13+00:00

I feel bad that women have to deal with the biological clock. I can fuck up my entire 20s and still find a good partner if I get my shit together. It's a lot harder for a woman to do the same thing and she's also adding risk because pregnancies get riskier the older the woman is.

ChongGoneWong · 2021-03-07T00:48:14+00:00

Carry firearm => problem solved.

Usagii_YO · 2021-03-07T05:02:12+00:00

Jesus Christ. It's her boyfriend's fault she was raped? I can understand why that would ruin the relationship but my God, you can't take anything from that.

Kaisha001 · 2021-03-06T18:58:57+00:00

Now I kinda understand why women go for guys who have more aggressive personalities. It's a safety net. I may not fully agree with it, but I get it. I've heard women say they like a badboy who's a jerk to everyone else but nice to her. I'm wondering if that's more to do with wanting to be protected, rather than wanting someone who's "fun."

And yet they don't pick the toughest guys. They pick assholes, who are often posers/peacocks.

The guys with the biggest 'bite' don't need a loud 'bark'. The guy with tattoos up and down his arms wearing tattered clothes and acting like an asshole is not the toughest guy in the room. Chances are it's some mundane looking clean-cut kid who is grinning stupidly from ear to ear at the thought of a confrontation.

boomcheese44 · 2021-03-06T20:31:51+00:00

I have given ugly men chances, hooked up w men, put myself in dangerous situations, not reported my rape, etc all to protect men’s feelings and try to make them healthy and happy. I just kept getting abused 😅 so now I leave it to men to take care of their own community.

SaBahRub · 2021-03-06T18:22:24+00:00

I always feel sorry for a lonely man, until he starts blaming women/other men, tries to fuck me, or spirals into a stubborn, immovable, pity-me depression.

Which is pretty much every time, eventually

Cobra_x30 · 2021-03-06T18:13:29+00:00

I don't feel bad for that girl... I feel bad for the man she was dating. We live in a culture that pushes men to be effeminate, and then punishes them when they can't be masculine.

I remember as a kid I wanted to learn how to dance, my father told me that dance is for girls and that men need to learn to fight. So, I learned to fight. Now, there are situations where having learned to dance instead would have benefitted me... maybe even scored me more sexual partners. However, learning to fight has on several occasions saved my life and those around me. It's also given me confidence in almost all situations and it affects even the way I walk. So, I don't regret this decision. Instead I feel bad for all the boys wearing tutus in ballet class that are just a step away from having their hormones blocked and being castrated.

SOwED · 2021-03-07T03:45:27+00:00

Just really generally, I think that naive women have a rougher experience than naive men when it comes to dating. There are guys out there who will pretend to have feelings just to fuck. There are women too, but like, usually that's not necessary.

-Ivar-TheBoneless · 2021-03-07T14:04:02+00:00

I have to say that I do feel sorry for post wall women that are single. I know I shouldn't feel sorry for them because they had their chance and they blew it, but sometimes I can't help it because they sound just like men used to sound when they were younger. The same way that men have troubles dating when they are younger, now women have trouble when they're older.

misunderstood_9gager · 2021-03-06T21:23:59+00:00

I cannot recall the exact moment, but the thing I saw before me in my mind was this.

Imagine that there exists 5 doors. And behind each of the 5 doors, is one person you are compatible with to such an extent that you can be with them forever (Or death do you apart).

Now for men, those 5 doors may hide in a huge corridor with 20-50 doors, and it would be impossible to know what door leads to what you want, without opening them.

And if you open the wrong door, you get a slap.

So for women, its still just 5 doors that exist... But the difference is that its not just one corridor with 20 doors, its a corridor with 2000 doors. And what is worse, is that the size of that corridor is the fucking same as the men's.

The point here is this... I just saw before me a cramped corridor just made up of fucking doors. Doors as ceiling, doors as floors, every single inch of thart corridor, filled with doors.

Good luck finding those 5 doors as a woman, it must be super fucking hard lol.

purplepilldthrowaway · 2021-03-06T17:52:22+00:00

I started out bluepilled and have always been empathetic to everyone even along my red pill journey. I also find it easy to see how everyone has problems of their own, no matter how many MGTOWs look at women with envy.

My first girlfriend and I stayed friends after we broke up and cared lots about each other. She later went on to be sex addicted, and date/fuck a lot of guys she knew weren't "good" for her, including a guy she met on Tinder who already had a girlfriend (and my friend kept dating him, knowing she was just the side piece). Hearing her stories was some pretty classic red pill stuff, but I also just felt bad for her cause it clearly wasn't good for her happiness.

xFallacyx69 · 2021-03-06T23:17:22+00:00

Your friend got raped and blamed a dude who didn’t rape her? Sounds like she needs therapy not a bf.

If her boyfriend just stood around while another dude assaulted her, that’s a different story... but that story sounds EXTREMELY implausible...

If my girlfriend is getting raped by another dude, I’m not fighting him off, I’m putting a pistol to his temple and pulling the trigger. If I don’t have a pistol I’m finding the closest knife or large object and testing how much he likes a foreign object penetrating his crevices. #sorrynotsorry

2021-03-07T00:12:34+00:00

But he wasn't much of a fighter. He was physically weak, not his fault. Not everyone's a fighter. But Sarah was brutally beaten and almost raped because of the fact that her man couldn't defend her. He tried, but he just didn't have it in him. He didn't have that killer instinct to take on a dangerous perpetrator.

r/iamverybadass

This is the silliest thing I've ever read. What if the rapist had a gun? What if there were multiple rapists? What if the boyfriend wasn't there when it happened? What difference would muscles make then?

You don't protect your family with physical strength, you protect them with your brain by being responsible. In the case of home invasions, for example, consider how safe the neighborhood is before moving in, take steps to make your home safer and less appealing to criminals, have a self defense firearm at home within easy reach and teach your family how to use it. Things like that.

And of course, since women are just as intelligent and responsible as men, there's no reason a woman couldn't take those same steps to protect herself and her family too. The idea that only men are capable of protecting the family is antiquated. Women have all the same resources now.

Also keep in mind that most rapes are perpetrated by acquaintances of the victim, either in the victim's home, in the acquaintance's home or nearby the victim's home. Again, muscles aren't gonna do shit here.

2021-03-07T01:24:32+00:00

I’ve never met a girl or woman that sympathized with men’s dating struggles so i could care less what they deal with in dating besides rape.

lunafox999 · 2021-03-06T21:07:55+00:00

I used to have some sympathy for women getting sexually harassed, but these days I can't even care for it. Whatever sympathy I once had for them has been completely destroyed by the behavior they exhibit in the dating/sexual market.

2021-03-06T18:17:33+00:00

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colgateexpert · 2021-03-06T23:09:57+00:00

For the sake of my sanity I'm gonna assume that your post is bait and that story is made up. There's no way that women are this bad

daniellederek · 2021-03-07T00:10:37+00:00

Not really sympathy buy understanding realities after a welfare mom i was on a blind date with (set up by her cousin who i should have avoided too) explained that I as an employed childless homeowner was not good enough for her because my fully paid for genuine little old lady 1 owner 10 year old car with 40k miles on it wasnt good enough for her to be seen in.... that and my clothes from the gap weren't name brand enough lol.... yeah, I really lost out on that one.

Alfredaux · 2021-03-07T00:26:50+00:00

Sounds like fiction to me. A little make believe to fit into your TRP fantasies, eh, friend?

nationearthdotcom · 2021-03-07T02:27:18+00:00

I don’t know all the nuance of this community, but I’m a guy who is sad because I didn’t lose my virginity young like most people (despite the fact that I was seventeen which actually is young looking back)

Anyways I never have an bad thoughts about women, but I feel really bad for how they’re hypersexualized and how while I’m envious about how the gender they’re most likely attracted to throws themselves at them, I can imagine how demeaning it is to be viewed as an object or a conquest.

With that said I wouldn’t mind if women viewed me as an object and used me for sex, it sucks being lonely and having to be the one that puts in constant effort, but I can still sympathize with how disgusting that must feel

asdf333aza · 2021-03-07T00:56:56+00:00

This girl I was fwbs with.

She drove two miles in the rain to go have sex with her ex boyfriend.... Well somehow they got in an argument and he beats her ass (again).

This time it was bad enough for her to go the hospital and she put him on blast and shared pictures of it all over social media. She presses charges and he goes to jail.

He post bail gets out and goes free during the trial. Along the way, he also post a video of her to pornhub. So on top of looked like a bruised fruit, she now has a sex tape of her going around cause of this guy.

Now, i'm not scared of her ex bf. Dude is skinny and could only do what he did to a girl. Any old regular guy could handle this guy. And I made sure he knew I was fucking her. He never said a thing to me. He just continued to harass her. She never blocked him though. Back to her and I. We were hooking up here and there.So during the trial and stuff her and me are on and off fwbs. Like we hang out occasionally and have sex sometimes and smoke a bit and just young casual 20 something year old dating.

However that wasn't enough for her, I guess. Which is fine cause I wasn't going to marry her crazy ass. Against my advice, she drops the charges on her ex bf. Yep. He beat her ass. Put her in the hospital. Exposed her on pornhub and he got off 100% free... No punishment at all. I almost couldn't believe it.

Now, I liked this girl she was fun and exciting, but I didn't have a future with her. I knew that from the start and so did she. However, I upheld my friends part of the FWB. And I really tried to help her with school and life and just making better decisions. Even when we weren't having sex, I still helped her. Even changed her tire for her once at 6am, cause she had no one else to do it for her. Her own dad wouldn't even come out at night to do it for her. But no matter how much I tried to get her to make better decisions for herself, she kept doing wrong. We stopped sleeping together months before she dropped the charges, but we still chit chatted.

Once she dropped the charges she stopped talking to me. Which is fair, cause I was going to give her HELL and cuss her ass out for letting this guy go free after what he did to her. So her and me couldn't talk anymore cause she knew I wasn't the type of friend to support stupid decisions. I would of told her non-stop everything that was wrong with this. But we stopped talking and I never got the chance to.

And eventually, I go to check on her like 2 months later. Just remembered her and wanted to make sure she was okay. I go to look up her social media and im blocked..... I hadn't said anything to her in like two months and I got blocked. Of course I don't let that stop me. I log onto an alt account and see her profile cause I'm curious now. (Yeah I creeped.)

Anddd when I see her profile, I know exactly why I was blocked. She let him move in with her anddd they are dating again. Yeah, it was best that I was blocked, cause if I had saw that notification on fb or gram, I would of lit her ass up in the comments and dms. I would of told her how stupid she was being. And I guess she didn't want to hear that. She wanted to follow her heart even if it led to a few more black eyes. And to no surprise it did!!! Yeah, he hit her again. He didn't learn his lesson the first time and neither did she....

What was that one moment where you felt sympathetic to the opposite sex's dating struggles? A moment that made you go, "I may not fully agree, but damn. I understand that must be rough."

So to answers OP's question directly. This was the moment. It made me realize that a lot (not all) women are self destructive. Women are slaves to their emotions even when these emotions lead them to do shit like this.They will somehow do every and anything to ruin their own lives. I didn't want to save this girl. Like she wasn't going to be my gf or my wife, I just wanted her to do better with her life simply because we were friends. If she found another decent guy to date and fuck, I would of been glad for her, but nooo it's back to abusive ex. I do not want this female. I just want her to have a better life. Preferably with another guy that isn't me. Every time I tired to turn her right, she would go left. And now she's living with her abuser. She deleted the pics she posted of the bruises and scares he gave her one year ago. He has no job and lives off of her. A pornhub video of her is still floating around online thanks to her bf. And thanks to the video he uploaded, I can say without a doubt his dick isn't even big, so that's not what gots her strung out on this guy. She can't do right for herself. And you can't help someone who doesn't want help. You kind of just gotta sit back and watch them burn their own house down. And it's kind of pitiful and sad to watch. That was kind of the moment that made me understand j.Cole's words of "don't save her, she don't wanna be saved". I actually got to live the lyrics.

P.s she is still with abuser ex til this day.

rebelyoungster · 2021-03-06T23:31:27+00:00

A firearm would have completely changed the outcome of this.

Flintblood · 2021-03-07T03:53:06+00:00

Increasing my options help me to understand higher value females who have options. It helped me understand why they would break away and ghost someone who is smothering you with their neediness and their clinging desperation for you to make their dream of being lonely go away.

Seriously, this one female I met on OLD wanted me to call her to say good night almost every night the second week after meeting me in person. I wanted to still talk and maybe even go out but I wasn’t ready to be serious. Each time I would text to say hi she would either respond literally 3 times with three different texts within 2 seconds - or say something passive aggressive to let me know I was making her feel rejected.

I felt trapped and cornered and didn’t like it. So instead of continuing to text in the hopes she would be cool, it was easier to do like Homer backing into the shrubs and slowly disappear. I think I began to get how women feel when a clingy guy is too demanding of the attention the expects from her.

NobodyBusiness3027 · 2021-03-07T07:15:13+00:00

AMD, Marvel, IBM, TI, QUALCOM, Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company Limited (TSM),, ASML Holding, etc. will be very speculative and recently were down but will be up and down going forward. Marvel is in deals to make the next generation of 5G chips for Samsung and other various companies that use 5G in the future; simply put the company that provides the best output and response to the chip shortage currently and build its company into the future will be the companies that will grow the most. Inflation is rift right now and these companies should grow beyond the current rate and understanding of valuation..... TRADE IN MICROCHIP, BITCOIN and TECHNOLOGY equities From NVIDIEA to AMD to KLA Corporation AND all Chinese micro-chip companies that compete with the USA/non-Chinese microchip companies a wealth of money should and will go into this industry.... Who ever comes out on top and supplies the current demand will result in respective stock price increases. Prove me wrong and if not please discuss below....

geyejoe7 · 2021-03-07T07:43:16+00:00

When a female friend showed me her phone.

The dudes on dating apps are critical. 7 billion of them trying to get in her pants with "hey" or some dumb one liner. Sometimes dickpics too.......

basedmillennial95 · 2021-03-06T23:45:53+00:00

I have great sympathy for women who want to stay virgins till their married. Unless they're drop dead gorgeous they're basically priced out of the market.

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Adadum · 2021-03-07T01:08:32+00:00

When I had a shitty supervisor who was at first cool but started becoming low key verbally abusive. Saying stuff like how I wasn't working fast enough when I was working at the same pace as everyone else. Saying stuff behind my back. Going off on us and calling us the slowest crew he's ever had. Telling other employees how he's gonna get rid of me. Doing all of that while maintaining a polite and friendly facade.

At the same time, the dude (36M) is almost 40 years old, playing and building toys in the break room, talks and acts like he's still in high school, LIVES WITH HIS PARENTS and worked for the company for 15 years but some how only ever got as high as supervisor ($40K salary at best).

When I dealt with that insecure fuckhead, it made me fully realize exactly how women get into abusive and/or toxic relationships. It's because the guy will charm up a good impression and then slowly be his toxic/insecure self and project/blame that onto the girl.

muhkiim · 2021-03-07T05:16:19+00:00

Honestly, plenty of stories. A lot of them had variants of "crazy chics."

The one that hit real close to home for me was my younger brother with his ex girlfriend. She was super clingy. Possessive. Manipulative..when they broke up, she threatened him and sent him some really, really nasty messages. I'm happy she had moved a couple hours away by this point because I'm sure she would've gone beyond words. 1

Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 · 2021-03-07T05:28:49+00:00

Well when I was single I found it really weird how dudes think they can message request you and because you don't answer them they say hello numerous times and then flip out calling you bitch , whore etc cause you didn't see the response due to being busy or glitches within the app esp FB . Way slow sometimes on getting requests . You can see the dudes unravel emotionally . Which makes me see I'm so happy FB glitched on their message request ... Mentality unstable. Let me see how crazy men are .

helloimmeokthen · 2021-03-07T07:49:36+00:00

Well it’s a known fact in hospitals that when partners get cancer or terminal illnesses, more men leave than women do. https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSTRE5AB0C520091112 this is literally fact. Men will leave their wives with cancer.

Nirv127 · 2021-03-07T12:07:47+00:00

From a female perspective, a strong and aggressive man definitely comes across as a protector. If you're someone, much like your friend, who has had traumatic events stem from feeling weak, its understandable why her trauma would push her to find that strength in a partner.

To me, strong and aggressive men are a safer option. I know that sounds weird, and it isn't always the case. But overall, large, strong and aggressive men just are what they are, you can hope you've found one that won't hurt you or take advantage of you. In my experience, its been more traumatic to experience assault from a sweetheart of a man that I perceived as gentle, caring and soft. When it's someone with a dominant and aggressive personality, it's less of an overwhelming disappointment and deception?

This is only from my personal experience, but yeah I find it harder to trust those very sweet and 'weaker' looking men, because if they do ever hurt you its so much more unexpected and resonates on a different level.

Koipisces · 2021-03-07T15:25:13+00:00

I think rather than strength I think it really takes courage to fully protect who you love (and not half frightened?). I would also prefer someone with the balls to step in, but also would go full attack mode if someone very dear to me would get attacked. Of course when the person is armed, you have to really be careful and use logical thinking, but.. In case he tried a 100% I would still give him a star for effort. Maybe not related to dating directly but in that same light, unfortunately women have to be on the look out for creepy and crazy men all the time. I have dealt with it too in the past, to the point of learning you cannot even sometimes trust male "friends". At the same time it is of course not all men, and I feel safe most of the time (Japan is relatively safe), but I cannot imagine what women especially in less wealthy countries have to go through to keep themselves safe (safety of women and women rights are so important.) Also, women have to deal with cat-calling/name calling because some men feel entitled to do so. Women need to stay on their guard, actually also when meeting men, making sure the guy doesn't have ill intentions and won't spike her drink or isn't going to force her to sex etc. If a woman is unsure if she wants to hookup that same night, I think the safest thing would be to just go on a coffee date.
As for your question, I do honestly sometimes feel for the men that really try, but it doesn't work out. I have seen profiles on r/Bumble that are completely fine, good even (if similar age/location I might have even given a chance), but they don't have matches or barely while you would really want them to do good in dating :/. Do have to say though, depending on location OLD is not the most efficient way. At the same time though, I also know some women who have had huge dating struggles (they are kinda invisible or the men they meet just want sex etc.). A friend of mine thought she found her perfect date through a dating app, but he acted so perfect she got suspicious, but continued anyways. They ended up in a love hotel and when checking out he urged her to pay half, she didn't really mind though. Turned out he was a pick-up artist and had a whole Twitter account dedicated to the girls he slept with including a picture taken without permission of their underwear and how to make girls pay for dates or pay half. It was utterly disgusting how he was showing off these girls, completely no respect towards the ladies and their privacy. Pick-up artists are disgusting and I also have no sympathy with men complaining how they cannot get laid. Buy a flashlight or pump, and stop feeling entitled to women. I only feel bad for men who search for a genuine connect and real relationship but struggle.

escapethesolarsystem · 2021-03-07T16:37:09+00:00

I generally feel bad for western women, not because their dating struggles are harder, but because they are so ill-prepared, mentally, intellectually, and psychologically, to deal with the reality of being a woman. They don't know their strengths, don't know their weaknesses, don't know what they need to be worried about, don't know what they can ignore.

Like if you could impart the understanding of male-female sex and relationship dynamics from a 40 year old high-value red-pill man into an attractive 20 year old woman, she'd be absolutely lethal in the dating market. She'd lock down a multi-millionaire in six months and enjoy a quality of life, for the rest of her life, better than 99% of women.

But most women don't even know how much they don't know. Not only are most western women clueless and irrational, they have a ego the size of a planet, so they can't be taught or learn anything. So they bumble through dating and relationships, turning what should be the easiest part of their life into the most miserable and difficult. I feel bad for that.

Whisper · 2021-03-08T08:54:43+00:00

Reading FDS.

Made me think, holy shit. These women have been surrounded by a perfect storm of bullshit all their lives. No one will tell them the truth because they either want to fuck them, or just don't want to look like a big meanie picking on the poor defenseless womenz.

If no one will ever tell you the unwelcome truth, you have no opportunity to develop the capacity for introspection. And if you never develop that, then you can never make any connection between the mistakes you made and the problems you have.

Which means that the world just seems like a malignant game show run by a sadistic god, where random bad shit keeps falling out of the sky and landing on you for no apparent reason.

I had always understood the damage men suffer because they are constantly targeted for unearned criticism and hate... but it took me a long time to understand the damage women suffer from being deprived of earned criticism. Without good feedback, it is impossible to learn.

And so many modern women are stuck in a place where they keep getting bad results because they are screwing up, but no one will tell them what they are doing wrong.

2021-03-08T14:14:38+00:00

I feel really bad for Sarah, but at the same time, she's an adult who's capable of buying a gun.

IDK. I like masculine men too but I don't expect them to be my unpaid bodyguard.

ThrowawayCOVID999 · 2021-03-09T20:31:39+00:00

Nope. The way women tell it they’re perfect in every way and we can never measure up.

StarkillerEmphasis · 2021-04-02T17:40:55+00:00

Anyone who can't tell you just made this story up out of thin air is a brainless troglodyte.

This story absolutely did not happen. What a clown you are to make such a thing up.

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