Saw that, and good. Just because white males are over represented in those fields doesn’t mean that the colour or gender should ever come into question when hiring. The white male that doesn’t get the job, purely because there are other white males in the job makes no fucking sense. A person of colour or female brings nothing additional or less to the business. It’s absolutely stupid to be denying people of their opportunity to work and grow and provide purely based on their colour or gender regardless of which gender or colour it may be
Forcing women and coloured people into the work place based on their gender / race is positive discrimination. If you want equal rights then you get the same opportunities , not the same results.
Not true, positive discrimination is when you get something positive based upon your race / disability etc. When talking about the people losing out, it’s negative, when the people are benefiting it’s positive. It’s both discrimination.
You’re misunderstanding. It’s not positive in the fact that it’s a good thing for anyone. The literal definition is:
noun: positive discrimination (in the context of the allocation of resources or employment) the practice or policy of favouring individuals belonging to groups which suffer discrimination.
This is British English. I worked in HR for 4 years in UK.
Historically it's been examined across all industries, and some of the crazy high paying jobs are mostly male dominated. It's not that simple tho - some male dominated fields are striving for more equal representation and deserve it, like thought leaders and CEOs.
Still, if a male dominated oil drill worker puts their life on the line and makes more than a female dominated elementary school teacher, I don't think it's fair to extrapolate that as a source for income inequality.
He's getting a bad reaction because he's claiming there's still a wage gap because of gender discrimination (he says about 5%).
But that's false. There's an earning gap, and it's mostly based on women being on average more agreeable and not negotiating their salary as much as men. If you don't sell yourself, the recruiter will not give you more money by default : his job is to hire people for the minimum salary possible in order to maximize the company profits. And he tries to do that to both men and women, but men on average negotiate more their own values, that's it, it has noting to do with gender discrimination.
No it’s not. I don’t think it’s such a difficult concept. You are never going to get an equal exposure without discrimination if you do not increase the exposure that these collectives get. If you reverse the situation, you are decreasing exposure of already discriminated collectives and therefore it would be worse.
/r/uncensorednews got deleted, so you all came here, didn't you? People like me held the line against /r/incels. I won't be quiet about this. Every movement has a problem with radicals.
I think this person may have literally been born yesterday.
But seriously, I think we as readers should always be checking the integrity of our sources. Even ones you can trust now (almost none - I trust some particular journalists, but no source exclusively) will almost certainly become corrupt, sold out, bought out, infiltrated, etc eventually.
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Google is about to get sued right now for discriminatory hiring practices against White and Asian men.
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Saw that, and good. Just because white males are over represented in those fields doesn’t mean that the colour or gender should ever come into question when hiring. The white male that doesn’t get the job, purely because there are other white males in the job makes no fucking sense. A person of colour or female brings nothing additional or less to the business. It’s absolutely stupid to be denying people of their opportunity to work and grow and provide purely based on their colour or gender regardless of which gender or colour it may be
Forcing women and coloured people into the work place based on their gender / race is positive discrimination. If you want equal rights then you get the same opportunities , not the same results.
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Not true, positive discrimination is when you get something positive based upon your race / disability etc. When talking about the people losing out, it’s negative, when the people are benefiting it’s positive. It’s both discrimination.
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You’re misunderstanding. It’s not positive in the fact that it’s a good thing for anyone. The literal definition is:
noun: positive discrimination (in the context of the allocation of resources or employment) the practice or policy of favouring individuals belonging to groups which suffer discrimination.
This is British English. I worked in HR for 4 years in UK.
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Historically it's been examined across all industries, and some of the crazy high paying jobs are mostly male dominated. It's not that simple tho - some male dominated fields are striving for more equal representation and deserve it, like thought leaders and CEOs.
Still, if a male dominated oil drill worker puts their life on the line and makes more than a female dominated elementary school teacher, I don't think it's fair to extrapolate that as a source for income inequality.
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Yeah the reaction you're getting is a bit absurd. There's a lot of subtleties which are convenient to overlook.
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He's getting a bad reaction because he's claiming there's still a wage gap because of gender discrimination (he says about 5%).
But that's false. There's an earning gap, and it's mostly based on women being on average more agreeable and not negotiating their salary as much as men. If you don't sell yourself, the recruiter will not give you more money by default : his job is to hire people for the minimum salary possible in order to maximize the company profits. And he tries to do that to both men and women, but men on average negotiate more their own values, that's it, it has noting to do with gender discrimination.
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Oh did the poor little girl get down voted into oblivion?
Oh, you're not a little girl? Than what does it mean when you cry like a little bitch about fake internet points?
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Hey hey hey how dare you assume her race. You don't know what race she identifies as.
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And that is why I don't read their trash paper.
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Dazed and Confused?
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They can discriminate based upon the strength of the writing, though.
How dare they even think to judge an article based upon its writing style and content!
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You don’t even need to do that. Discrimination based on race is the definition of racism(the real definition, not the SJW fraudulent definition).
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No it’s not. I don’t think it’s such a difficult concept. You are never going to get an equal exposure without discrimination if you do not increase the exposure that these collectives get. If you reverse the situation, you are decreasing exposure of already discriminated collectives and therefore it would be worse.
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/r/uncensorednews got deleted, so you all came here, didn't you? People like me held the line against /r/incels. I won't be quiet about this. Every movement has a problem with radicals.
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Your quality of news sources needs a massive upgrade. HuffPost is as radical a media organization as exists now days.
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I think this person may have literally been born yesterday.
But seriously, I think we as readers should always be checking the integrity of our sources. Even ones you can trust now (almost none - I trust some particular journalists, but no source exclusively) will almost certainly become corrupt, sold out, bought out, infiltrated, etc eventually.
Huffpo has been pure garbage for a long time.
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