Huffington Post writers are chosen mostly based on their gender and race. Isn't that the definition of racism?

theothermod · 2018-03-16T00:19:36+00:00

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Raidicus · 2018-03-15T16:07:08+00:00

Would be interested to see a white or male author sue over this. I think the time is coming when we'll start to see that go down.

fengpi · 2018-03-15T14:54:57+00:00

On the bright side, they can save money if they don't need to buy trash cans to throw rejected articles into.

OCD_Orca · 2018-03-15T16:12:33+00:00

~~Opportunity~~ Equality of outcome is going to be the destruction of society.

Why should anyone try hard at anything when certain races and sexes are chosen over others based solely on those attributes and not skill or, in this case, quality of writing?

Gingerchaun · 2018-03-15T15:31:22+00:00

Yo this lady is white wtf. Someone needs to to censor this ladies opinions. Youre stealing tweet space from racialized women.

miniibeast · 2018-03-15T15:57:04+00:00

Someone can sue if they were affected.

AirplaneNote · 2018-03-15T16:52:20+00:00

I can only shake my head at this.

SadWookieBush · 2018-03-15T21:03:17+00:00

I think this sub can be over the top at times, but you're right on the money on this one. I come down on the left side of most things, but I had to quit reading HuffPo in 2016 after they went full SJW. Never go full SJW.

Gamie_Foxx · 2018-03-16T10:56:14+00:00

The 'C' and "L' are silent

Ozensha · 2018-03-15T15:48:16+00:00

And that is why I don't read their trash paper.

Gamer_Jack_Gameson · 2018-03-15T16:28:12+00:00

Relevant Huffpost article--10 signs of institutionalized racism [archived]

Check out #3:

"3. When pictures of presidents, board members, award-winning whomevers are hung, and they do not depict a demography that matches that of the state, city or the country, then your organization might have an institutional racism problem. Again, universities, administrations, trustees, check yourselves."

LMAO

L0st1ntlTh3Sauc3 · 2018-03-15T15:37:41+00:00

white guy writes an article

"We can't publish that".

scrolls down and sees author identifies as a transexual

"Oh we're good, he 'checks the box'. Publish that high quality article no white man would ever understand".

that_motorcycle_guy · 2018-03-15T16:57:59+00:00

Lol, it sounds like she's collecting Pokemon cards.

jesting766 · 2018-03-15T16:35:23+00:00

Our goals for this month were: less than 50% white authors

Um, Miss Angyal...you're white, too. Practice what you preach.

Revenant221 · 2018-03-15T15:07:53+00:00

Virtue signalling at it's finest. One only needs to reverse the races to expose the racism (if it wasn't already obvious). Imagine if she said "our goal is to lower the amount of black writers we publish"

Northfields · 2018-03-15T17:35:59+00:00

This is the great paradox of inclusion and diversity movements. They are predicated on the very idea of considering race and gender as the basis for everything.

It’s the ultimate racist ideology.

tenchineuro · 2018-03-15T15:29:03+00:00

I feel bad now that I read some linked articles on Huff.

I guess the archive advice is solid.

Comntrinchief · 2018-03-15T15:37:30+00:00

Wow. HuffPo is one of my many news sources, and I've noted the general run of 'SJW' style pieces on the site, but I didn't know they were actively working to decide who is published by race or sex. I thought it was just a standard editorial slant, and that their slant attracted people of like mind.

Jesus.

Kanzlerforce · 2018-03-15T16:20:14+00:00

It's ok to be hate-filled and racist, BUT ONLY AGAINST WHITES.

poorimaginations · 2018-03-15T17:08:59+00:00

The tweeter is herself white, so why doesn't she quit her job and let a black transsexual have it?

MoneyAndJoy · 2018-03-15T17:30:43+00:00

Your “goal” should be to deliver the best product or service for the customer, not to discriminate against people based on their race or gender. So fucked up. Down with HuffPo!

itsjosh18 · 2018-03-15T16:19:37+00:00

And illegal

jospa27 · 2018-03-15T17:22:38+00:00

That’s exactly what affirmative action is and people say it’s not racist lol

adamvectorz · 2018-03-15T17:17:08+00:00

Real Racism

DemonSmurf · 2018-03-15T22:49:02+00:00

Equality of outcome will hold our society back. Equality of opportunity (what we have) will push us forward.

proteios1 · 2018-03-15T16:29:03+00:00

Yes. It is the precise definition of racism. But bear in mind this is the progressive movement. It is bipolar by design. The left has mocked and ridiculed others in the name of tolerance. Screeched at those with dissenting views in the name of open-mindedness and their enlightened perspective. Use racil segregation to promote diversity. Silenced free speech in order to be inclusive. Academia now barely allows conservative speakers. The paradox inherent within the progressive movement is one that should have intellectuals and free thinkers running for the hills. Sadly, most have de-intellectualized academia and our media to the point where cultural marxism is our only context for equity. Intolerantly promoting tolerance.

nairda89 · 2018-03-15T19:32:17+00:00

They should get sued for discrimination.

powershirt · 2018-03-16T00:00:10+00:00

Why not fire her? One less white person

marcooni1 · 2018-03-15T14:38:21+00:00

LOL you cant be racist against whites.

--Edog-- · 2018-03-15T17:53:30+00:00

Hold on - why is the goal for Asians in particular to exceed populational representation?

ZimbaZumba · 2018-03-15T22:27:57+00:00

This is what diversity at Huffpo looks like: https://twitter.com/lheron/status/733758898855940098?lang=en

NikolaTeslaandY0u · 2018-03-15T17:09:42+00:00

This is so disgusting. The way these women think.

MoneyAndJoy · 2018-03-15T17:29:15+00:00

Unfathomably racist and sexist. WOW! I always knew HuffPo was fucked up, but they just keep getting worse..

aspinningcircle · 2018-03-15T19:03:23+00:00

It really does seem like the left has embraced racism and sexism recently.

Just like the nazis they think they're doing it for the right reasons.

boringcarpets · 2018-03-15T17:40:19+00:00

Yes, hence why they're all about changing definitions. It's like how children act when playing a game - they lose and can't play to the rules so they start making up rules as they go

Istalriblaka · 2018-03-15T17:57:45+00:00

r/menkampf (with no "i") would love this

falsekoala · 2018-03-15T17:59:45+00:00

I'd rather just read the best content from the best writers regardless of gender, colour, etc. Publishing based on gender, race alone doesn't always mean you're getting the best.

And wouldn't people rather be published based on their work and not their race or gender? I dunno.

Whatever, I don't read the Huff post.

theninjallama · 2018-03-15T18:39:54+00:00

If theyre trying to be accurate, they should have only about 13% colored writers. 50%??

hodltaco · 2018-03-15T19:01:19+00:00

Huffington Post is just one giant circle jerk designed for specific target advertising.

unspecifiedcarnage · 2018-03-15T20:30:21+00:00

I mean, Huff Post is cancer anyway. Didn't expect anything less.

CulturalWishbone · 2018-03-15T22:24:38+00:00

Wow, such blatant discrimination.

ImJustHereToBitch · 2018-03-15T23:17:05+00:00

I guess you need that diverse background to be able to truly understand the struggle of the top fourteen '90s cartoons turned into cereal.

icorrectotherpeople · 2018-03-15T23:56:59+00:00

The fact that Huffington Compost prioritizes color and gender over skill explains why their journalism is such complete shit.

Team_Awsome · 2018-03-16T00:03:09+00:00

The far left loves to put people in boxes just as much as the alt-right and get just as angry when you don’t like it or comply

dragonjock27 · 2018-03-16T00:11:39+00:00

I don't know what's more stupid...

The fact they are racist and sexist, or the fact they're ok with shouting it out loud

EricBardwin · 2018-03-16T00:57:36+00:00

I actually didn't mind huffpo until Ariana sold it. Then they rebranded and are taking all of these overly corrective steps to, I dunno, seem super progressive? But I agree it's a tinge sexist/racist. I also think most of their content is just fluff since the change in ownership.

vhisic · 2018-03-16T01:19:25+00:00

These kind of quotas are technically illegal in most countries. But they get away with sexism and racism by calling it diversity and argue that they are recruiting for their audience. But a post like this should show otherwise and action should be taken against them.

DANK_ME_YOUR_PM_ME · 2018-03-16T02:08:20+00:00

Not that anyone cares, but for an opinion section it makes a lot of sense to have the writer demographic stats match the general population.

If 90% of writers are of one sex, it is the male/female opinion section.

Never mind the fact that you want a bunch of different opinions and obviously different backgrounds and experiences to use for crappy anecdotes.

Whatever

LifterofThings · 2018-03-16T04:39:21+00:00

Not included in this month's goals: high-quality articles.

Yay "diversity" tho, amirite?

EmptyChair · 2018-03-16T14:00:44+00:00

Don't pretend it's a question because they will deflect and day no it isn't. It is racism, plain and simple.

Haisha4sale · 2018-03-15T16:37:10+00:00

I remember a long time ago when huffington post was a pretty damn good source of news. I think it was around 2009 or something. What a shit show its become.

wardrich · 2018-03-15T16:35:05+00:00

Maybe I'm reading this wrong, but it sounds like they're talking about some opinionated articles? Her wording is absolute shit, but I think if they're holding open discussions and opinions maybe it is good to ensure that each gender/race is equally weighted in the opinion to try to balance out bias.

But then again, maybe I'm just giving them too much credit.

workthrow22 · 2018-03-15T17:44:49+00:00

'um no see racism is based on a structure of oppression therefore certain people are disqualified from being racist all together mmmthank yewwwwww'

anormalgeek · 2018-03-15T18:11:14+00:00

Some people like to redefine the word "racism" so that it only applies to those in power. Fine. But that doesn't change the underlying issue. Treating someone differently based solely on their gender, race, sexual orientation, religion, etc. is morally wrong and has a negative impact on society. Even if the difference in treatment is a positive one against a historically marginalized group. Two wrongs don't make a right.

--Edog-- · 2018-03-15T17:46:29+00:00

Why not just develop an AI article writer programmed with the talking points and social ideology you want - and fire all your writers?

--Edog-- · 2018-03-15T17:50:52+00:00

Normal business: Our goal for this month is to increase readership by x% and overall reader satisfaction by x%.

theseleadsalts · 2018-03-15T18:44:27+00:00

Better

Oh boy...

awesomemanswag · 2018-03-15T20:56:38+00:00

this is perfect for r/menkampf

ThatBoyScout · 2018-03-15T21:11:42+00:00

No wonder it always sounds like crazy wrote this.

ThePigmanAgain · 2018-03-15T21:53:42+00:00

Asians? Since when are they doing worse than Whitey?

techiejames · 2018-03-15T22:18:20+00:00

So, are they saying that a writer's ability to write quality articles has a direct correlation with a writer's gender or skin color?

How awful.

m1ssman1c · 2018-03-15T23:15:34+00:00

Exactly: the only inherently racist policies in the United States are those regarding Affirmative Action. No other laws or policies exist that determine one should or shouldn't be hired based on their race or gender. Oh, except the conveniently vague "patriarchy."

ProfessorAdonisCnut · 2018-03-15T23:21:12+00:00

Wait so are the trans and non-binary contributors meant to be in proportion to overall US numbers too? They're unclear on that point.

weissna · 2018-03-15T23:28:58+00:00

It's the phrasing that bothers me more than anything. Like, it'd be one thing if they said something like "We care about representation, so we strive to have at least an equal amount of minority writers", or something like that. Instead they are basically saying "Fuck white men".

Windex007 · 2018-03-16T00:20:09+00:00

You can aim to improve a metric without it being the primary deciding factor.

Like, having race as a considerable metric is arguably racist, for sure, but that doesn't necessarily make it "mostly" how they decide.

I dunno. I'm just saying let's not reward sensationalism and just deal in facts and then expand a discussion based on that. "Is this racist and why/why not" is appropriate. The assertion that this is the primary determining factor isn't appropriate without some kind of supporting argument.

This is a general wish. I have no stake in this particular discussion other than it be done right.

sumZy · 2018-03-16T00:33:47+00:00

This women is such a fucking retard I'm starting to think she is controlled opposition

apphut · 2018-03-16T00:53:18+00:00

Shitty content (check!).

soulc · 2018-03-16T01:33:13+00:00

I knew there was a reason I stopped reading huffpost.

chambertlo · 2018-03-16T01:57:41+00:00

Of course it’s a white woman that decides that there should be less white authors. She should resign and allow one of her precious minorities to take her job.

Fortspucking · 2018-03-16T01:58:44+00:00

I don't imagine white males are collecting in heaps around the door trying to get into this collection of goofy, maudlin, gossip-mongering tripe.

jeffislearning · 2018-03-16T02:00:02+00:00

Alot of guys are going to have to apply as transgender to get a job.

tibbymat · 2018-03-16T02:57:20+00:00

I love the hipocracy of the left. They idolize a man like MLK and go against his speech every time.

2timessauce · 2018-03-16T03:08:28+00:00

Guys get your wigs ready, put your best dress on and conquer it.

pablosito · 2018-03-16T03:30:31+00:00

Feel like this will just cause the "evil straight white men" to go start their own thing based on merit and (hopefully) surpass them in quality.

80BAIT08 · 2018-03-16T04:55:30+00:00

Too bad they all write 100% bullshit.

Ionose · 2018-03-16T06:18:26+00:00

Always have to check if tweets like this are real. Unfortunately, they usually are.

deusludum · 2018-03-16T06:28:10+00:00

r/CringeAnarchy

Atreiyu · 2018-03-16T13:57:02+00:00

These types ruin the legitimate left leaning movements

kartu3 · 2018-03-16T15:31:19+00:00

Asians are really a thorn in their eyes, they simply cannot do "matches US population" (look what happened at google), so have to put up with "exceeds".

I'd bet as with google it is "exceeds US population of Asians" by 5-7 times.

2018-03-16T18:14:01+00:00

think about all that money they'll save by not hiring male workers /s

2018-03-16T18:15:15+00:00

Must suck to be a white guy who's a competent writer or artist these days. Those fields are overrun with drunk on affirmative action lunatics like this.

Scaniatex · 2018-03-15T16:10:48+00:00

Yes it is.

MagicCorn777 · 2018-03-15T17:13:46+00:00

Dont make it a numbers game. Publish good articles. Give POC and women opportunities to be heard and have their (our?) articles critiqued as everyones.

JAYDEA · 2018-03-15T20:04:20+00:00

This could explain why the traffic to their site is dropping.

pumpinglava · 2018-03-15T20:48:29+00:00

I mean, imagine a senior editor at a major publication with a comparable level of popularity to HuffPost saying a similar thing about their hiring process, but about having a goal for "less black people." Hell, it would make the front page of HuffPost!

MeEvilBob · 2018-03-15T21:20:57+00:00

HuffPo, leading the world in denying applicants based entirely on ethnicity and gender identity while still being considered progressive and diverse. These people are the true masters of the mind fuck.

mkrmec · 2018-03-15T16:56:36+00:00

I must teach my site blocker to block these idiots.

JetzyBro · 2018-03-15T23:16:25+00:00

Tfw liberals literally turn human beings into checks on a list and nothing more and then claim the moral high ground.....

MGTOWManofMystery · 2018-03-15T16:27:20+00:00

Very quota!

mtbike · 2018-03-15T19:14:37+00:00

No because apparently being racist to white people isnt racism.

like_a_horse · 2018-03-15T21:39:56+00:00

Didn't anyone tell them it's literally been deemed illegal by the Supreme Court that you cannot have racial or gender quotas. Also you cannot make race or gender part of the job requirement unless it's a bonafide reason, for example you could make being a women a requirement if your hiring for a women's restroom attendant. This whole this is an equal opportunity employment commission lawsuit waiting to happen.

shadenbo · 2018-03-15T21:46:14+00:00

It was the definition of racism, the left has actually changed the word in the dictionary to say that you can't be racist against white people. I'm not kidding, this is a real thing that happened.

Gradytron · 2018-03-16T00:46:41+00:00

It is like they literally want to take away everything from men, especially white men.

spookynutz · 2018-03-15T21:46:59+00:00

No, it's not. They're talking about opinion pieces, which means the authors of the articles they're publishing aren't employees of the organization. They're contributors. This is a company choosing and paying for content to publish the same way any other magazine, news organization or book publisher would. It's the media equivalent of me deciding which brand of peanut butter I want to buy. The comments in this thread are mostly idiotic.

bathrobehero · 2018-03-16T00:08:40+00:00

She's a proper cunt on so many levels;

'Angyal' is Hungarian for 'Angel' yet she insist on spelling 'Angyal' as 'Angel' while that's not how you pronounce it at all. She also claims to be an Australian-American, ignoring why she has a Hungarian name (which should be important if she's insisting on how people should pronounce her name). She's also white, going against white people. But the worst is that she sees nothing wrong with publicly and proudly sharing proof of discrimination as can bee seen in OP.

But then again, huffpost is garbage and a cheap target to aim at as they're willing to do anything (like hiring her) for some clicks.

DaftOdyssey · 2018-03-15T17:56:53+00:00

Could this be considered legal? Just curious

King_Baboon · 2018-03-15T18:50:26+00:00

Good way to get the attention of EEOC.

better_red · 2018-03-15T21:34:51+00:00

Absintheuphoric · 2018-03-16T01:08:27+00:00

WTF does this accomplish?

TasslehofBurrfoot · 2018-03-16T01:28:35+00:00

Some women what equal rights until they are in power.

BITCRUSHERRRR · 2018-03-16T04:46:08+00:00

And here i was excited that i found a HuffPo article that I agreed with relating to a different topic.

Il_Capitano_DickBag · 2018-03-16T04:47:24+00:00

To be fair, it's a good strategy for reducing employment costs.

coffee-mugger · 2018-03-16T05:03:27+00:00

If a straight white guy happens to be better qualified than me to do a job I'm applying for - he deserves the job. I don't want to be given special treatment because someone decided I deserve victim points for being female.

rageth · 2018-03-16T08:03:53+00:00

None binary author? Are we really doing this?

Saerain · 2018-03-16T08:25:49+00:00

>matches or exceeds

zetsthamys · 2018-03-16T10:18:39+00:00

That is highly disgusting.

Zeljari · 2018-04-14T18:41:35+00:00

I think it’s not a bad thing that they’re trying to diversify their writers especially since it’s their opinion section. However it’s different when they’re actively trying to not include white male writers.

ckershaw6 · 2018-05-07T18:00:42+00:00

They want to bring a wide range of perspectives to readers! Shouldn’t get only a monologue!

DeadlySlav · 2018-05-30T00:25:03+00:00

WHITE PEOPLE, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Blainezab · 2018-03-15T18:27:30+00:00

And now I lost even more faith in the world

mycrazylifeeveryday · 2023-06-12T11:46:24+00:00

As a trans POC, I do not endorse this, the writers should be evaluated by skill

Valendr0s · 2018-03-15T17:40:51+00:00

Serious Question. What's the goal with a post like this?

Should HuffPo be required to hire a certain % of each race including whites? Or should they be free of race restrictions and be allowed to hire whomever they want?
Are you just trying to publicly shame HuffPo so they'll change their policy?
Is it just to show other like-minds a reason to dislike HuffPo?

I've just never understood a lot of what I see posted on this subreddit. A lot of you seem to be conservative or libertarian, and thus (I assume) against government intrusion and regulation. Yet, the overwhelming majority of what I see posted seems to scream out, "Look at this race/sex double-standard. Please, government, regulate companies hiring practices and change laws to prevent this."

I guess it could just be a place to come and complain. Which is fine, I suppose. But I guess my overall question is... so what? So HuffPo is hiring non-white males. Why should we care unless it's a call for it to be changed somehow.

It's not to boycott HuffPo. I would be surprised if the readership of this subreddit and HuffPo has a lot of overlap.

Yes_I_am_racist · 2018-03-15T18:59:41+00:00

Shit, I give up my tag to this lady. She deserves it more.

TriggeredMcNiggard · 2018-03-16T12:21:35+00:00

Leftism may not be a mental illness, but it is most definitely a symptom of it.

RagingtonSteel · 2018-03-16T12:38:45+00:00

Bro you cant be racist against white people or males

fucks sakes

/s

J-L-S · 2018-03-15T15:55:38+00:00

I don't have a problem with it in a profession like this where you need to bring in subscribers and readers. I think it's a dumb tactic that won't work, but if that's the way you want to run your business more power to you.

When it comes to creating content, I don't have a concern. Now if they use the same hiring practices for the behind the scenes people not making the material for the public, I'd be concerned.

KommandantVideo · 2018-03-15T17:48:19+00:00

Like technically yes it is. Could be a Supreme Court case lol

crager34 · 2018-03-16T05:01:14+00:00

No, it’s not racism because they didn’t say other races couldn’t do it because of their race. They are being discriminatory.

Learn your definitions.

Gambizzle · 2018-03-15T21:44:40+00:00

I see no problem with this. They are an openly left-wing publication that aims to represent ethnic minorities. The big boss is a woman who actively supports female rights movements. Also, they give a voice to minority opinions in a media climate dominated by large, right-wing media moguls (e.g. Murdoch).

This is their goal and I don’t really see anything wrong with it per se.

I have issues in the way they word it. For example, what is a ‘person of colour’, what is ‘Asian’ and how can you do ‘better’ than providing equal representation? I mean, do we need more Chinese/Russian loyalists to be publishing because their views are widely shunned by left and right wing media outlets. IMO some opinions are squashed to the side for good reason.

ridemooses · 2018-03-15T20:12:45+00:00

For the sake of trying to have a discussion about this I have a question, don't they have a right to try to publish an equal amount of articles across all races, ethnicities, sexes, etc? I get where you can flip that argument and say if a publisher made a point to say we need to publish more white men's articles that would be sexist and racist. But that doesn't appear to be case because a majority of journalists are white men some data to back this up.

I'm making an attempt to see this from both sides. I don't agree with the way she is boasting about this and that articles shouldn't just be published for the sake of marking of diversity check boxes. However, I also think that we should have more articles published by minorities and we have to start somewhere.

loophole64 · 2018-03-15T20:16:24+00:00

Well, strictly speaking, this isn't racism. Racism means that you believe particular race is inferior. This is more like race bias.

ametalshard · 2018-03-15T17:04:53+00:00

to answer your question: not necessarily

VonCesaw · 2018-03-15T19:57:16+00:00

Thank you /r/The_Donald

temporalarcheologist · 2018-03-15T21:55:15+00:00

(I mean it does kinda reflect the proportions of our population but yeah fuck racial equality)

DocHoliday96 · 2018-03-16T01:17:44+00:00

Is this sub Mens Rights, or White Men Rights..? It's starting to be hard to tell

ShelSilverstain · 2018-03-15T17:25:38+00:00

What does this have to do with men's rights?

DoubleWatson · 2018-03-15T18:16:06+00:00

No. This is known as discrimination. Not all of which is necessarily immoral.

Title	Huffington Post writers are chosen mostly based on their gender and race. Isn't that the definition of racism?
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Date	March 15, 2018 2:22 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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