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Is the fact that historically, any man who ascended to the top in terms of power and hierarchy usually always chose to keep a harem of multiple women a sign that male sexuality, when given free reign and not limited to any rules or restrictions, will always choose multiple lovers as opposed to one?

This is something you see across all cultures and societies. Even European monarchs had their concubines and affairs, most recently with Prince Charles, while maintaining an official "wife" who will bear his heir.

It reminds me of how guys will when they're young try to sleep with anyone and everyone but will always want the "one" to settle down with, and she must be more perfect than all the rest, because only one can bear his heirs.

I wonder if women's sexuality can operate the same way. Like how many women when given complete power and freedom will choose to have multiple lovers/partners at a time as opposed to just "the one"?

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Is the fact that historically, any man who ascended to the top in terms of power and hierarchy usually always chose to keep a harem of multiple women a sign that male sexuality, when given free reign and not limited to any rules or restrictions, will always choose multiple lovers as opposed to one?

To be a little fair to men in general, having power does make people more apt to excuse their own moral failings, but it’s also the case that getting to the top and staying there filters pretty strongly for shittier people. It’s fairly rare for truly generous, loyal, and honest people to make it to the top because those qualities are selected against. So rich and powerful men cheating flagrantly isn’t a 100% fair test of how men in general would operate if they could do what they want.

But that being said… yeah, if their wealth and power can shield them from the negative consequences to themselves, people will often pursue selfish interests without much regard to how their behavior harms others.

I wonder if women's sexuality can operate the same way. Like how many women when given complete power and freedom will choose to have multiple lovers/partners at a time as opposed to just "the one"?

I suspect historically, most women who chose to have multiple lovers were killed by one of them or were stoned by the local officials if they got caught. Men as a general rule do not tolerate it when their woman fucks other men, no matter how many women he’s fucking. Even among prostitutes, the homicide rate is so high that it’s more dangerous than any legal male-dominated job (in the US, at least). Fucking many men is just not a safe lifestyle for women.

This is something you see across all cultures and societies.

Yes. It’s also one of the reasons why it’s funny to see men here whine so much about hypergamy.

If women are hypergamous and men are polygamous, then at least the female desire for one really good mate can be satisfied by one man— you men have a chance at being her one and only.

But not so for women, if men are polygamous— no matter how much you improve yourself or how beautiful you are or how sweet or submissive or whatever… you’ll never be enough for him. He’ll always want other women.

Of course, it’s also something that makes me laugh when the red pill guys go on and on about how only men are truly capable loyalty. I’m fairly sure at least the majority of red pill men would cheat if they had the means— they are definitely the type.

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Like even if you're a king who fucks 200 women, you'll choose only one woman to birth your heir, and she'll obviously be more important to you than the others.

This is what men say to excuse male cheating. But their feelings that male cheating is no big deal as long as he feels like it’s no big deal don’t matter— a man who cheats is still cheating, which means he’s being disloyal in his actions. And he still will expect absolute sexual loyalty from her that he’d never give to her in return. His “loyalty” a complete lie. He’s just trying to have his cake and eating it, while expecting his dumb wife to roll over and obediently accept being treated like shit.

Same with men nowadays, they will fuck anyone but will have a really high standard for the one that they make their wife. Cause ultimately you can have sex with many but only really commit and partner up with one.

It’s actually not a monogamous commitment if you cheat, you know, since that’s the topic here.

There is a reason these mens wives leave them for cheating— he may think it’s fine to cheat, but she will be hurt and will likely never be able to trust him again. His cheating destroys the marriage and partnership, no matter how much he wants her to bend over and accept his lying and deceit like a whore.

But the fact is a man cheating on his wife doesn’t respect her and doesn’t value her love.

He just had sex with her cause he was horny. But Maria Shriver was his life partner. Even though he cheated on her.

Lol, Maria Shriver didn’t agree with that assessment. She filed for divorce after finding out about the cheating. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna10411

It doesn’t matter that the man wants her to stupidly submit to his cheating and lying— if she’s hurt and angry about it, she will end the marriage… or possibly cheat in revenge (and he’d deserve it, honestly).

A man who cheats willingly risks destroying the marriage, and obviously doesn’t care enough about his wife to worry about keeping the marriage intact. The fact that she was his “life partner” was so unimportant to him that he burned it all to the ground for a woman he supposedly didn’t care about.

It doesn’t matter if he says he felt like he still loved her, his actions showed otherwise. He didn’t care about the consequences or how much it would hurt his wife, and that shows he didn’t actually love her or respect her. He just felt like she should do whatever he wanted no matter what he did. But a marriage cannot survive without respect and honesty.

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I think when women cheat in a relationship, its cause there's something fundamentally wrong in the relationship.

This is how the man feels when the woman cheats on him, and thats exactly how the woman will feel when her husband cheats on her too. Why are men’s feelings real to you, but not women’s?

Why do you think women divorce so frequently after her man cheats? It’s because women think the man cheating means the relationship is dead too.

And likewise, a woman could also just be drunk or horny or a slut, and most men still would never forgive her if that’s the reason she cheated.

Women generally do not accept men’s self-serving excuses for cheating the way men wish they would. Horniness is simply no excuse for treating your partner like you care more about fucking some rando than about whether you betray them.

When men cheat its just cause they're horny and want to get laid.

Disagree. When men cheat, it’s that they don’t care that it’ll destroy her love for him. He literally cares more about 15 minutes of fucking some random loser than about whether his wife will hate him for the rest of her life.

I’d absolutely say there’s something deeply wrong with a marriage if the man cares so fucking little that he will torch everything over something that he claims “doesn’t even matter”.

If the marriage means that little to him, then he’s also completely checked out of the relationship, sorry. Men say otherwise because it serves their sexual interests to trick women into staying with a lying cheating scum— not because he actually gives a damn about his wife who he treats like shit by cheating.

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I think it depends on people individually.

People in power, historically are hoarders. They're in power because they deprive everyone else in the tribe of necessities. And people in the tribe have to "beg" for what should belong to everyone.

Most of the options to have multiple women was nonconsensual and women were oftten sold off and or forced to leave men that they actually wanted to be with.

I don't believe that it's biologically or culturally relevant to project the behaviors of hoarders onto all of society.

There have ALWAYS been men that have wanted multiple partners (either hetero, homo, or both). There have ALWAYS been women that have wanted multiple partners (either hetero, homo, or both). There have ALWAYS Been men that have wanted one partner (either hetero, homo, or both) There have ALWAYS been women that have wanted one partner (either hetero, homo, or both).

There's too much variation in human behavior and belief to subscribe a singular sexual behavior to all humans.

However, our ape cousins sexual behavior more than likely reflects our biological sexual behavior. Being, that there are mates that may pair bond temporarily, however sex among the group is uses to exchange goods and build bonds with friends/neighbors. Sex isn't strictly limited to one pair, but the community with different reasons for having sex.

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Really? I didn't know this was such a unknown secret. I am definitely above average when it comes to n-count and that doesn't come from nowhere. When I was a teen I was always hoping for the big love. The perfect example of my first 3 n-counts and how that happened:

I was 16 when a guy in another class asked me out. We got together and I lost my virginity to him. It was incredibly painful and I said I didn't wanna do it again. He dropped me.

My second bf ghosted me after we had sex because he joined the military and assumed I wouldn't be able to deal with a weekend relationship (he told me that years later when he hit me up on Facebook, that that was the reason he ghosted me)

My third partner had a bet with his cousin who would had first sex. He with me or his cousin with my bff back at the time. The bet was for 2 cheeseburger.

In my teens I was more hopeful. Of course that means being open to getting hurt. Also means the n-count goes up. I got more cynical with my worldview when I got older. I had ONS to stroke my own ego not to have good sex. Then I went celibate for like 5 years after a pretty toxic relationship. And now I'm with my bf for 4 years. It's just experiences and knowledge you pick up as you get older.

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Eh. Single PPD woman here with no boyfriend. My previous BF didn't particularly care about my n count before I broke up with him cause he couldn't give me what I wanted. He got so mad at me and called me a whore for me saying that I'd fuck someone else after breaking up cause he wouldn't give me what I wanted. Lol. That's the only time a guy has appeared visibly bothered by my n count or me sleeping around, cause I straight up told my ex I would leave them and get what I wanted from someone else if they couldn't step up and give me the amount of sex, time and attention I wanted. They had promised to give me what I wanted but didn't deliver so I left and they insulted me for not keeping their own word lmao. If you ain't loyal to your word I ain't loyal to you. Anyway, I only really date guys who show they don't care about n count. People who are clearly bothered by it ain't worth my time.

Anyway. I've probably been pumped and dumped, but the thing is that the pumping and dumping was likely mutual, as I was looking for casual sex with guys who was also looking for casual sex. I don't think I've ever tried to initiate a relationship with a guy who only wanted to have sex with me. I have however pumped and dumped guys who wanted relationships with me that I only wanted to have sex with lol.

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Yes. I prefer sex at least every day or every other day, I also expect to spend quality time with a partner when we are togheter, etc going on dates or doing an activity togheter out or at home. If we are apart or long distance I expect a partner to text me and call me and have regular quality conversation with me every day or at the very least every other day, or make up for the lack of time spent on me in some other way if they're very busy for periods of time Short casual texts and phone calls doesn't cut it in the long run. The generic and repetitive "hey baby how are you doing?" "Fine, how are you?" "Good" "oh okay cool, I'll TTYL" chats doesn't cut it in a day and gets insanely annoying and boring in the long run when you can predict the exact thing a person will say. I want to be able to connect with a partner mentally, share ideas and philosophies about subjects that go beyond chit chat about daily mundane activities. That requires them to prioritize time with me where they will not be interrupted by other matters.

I've dated men who's said they would make time for me but think generic texting throughout the day or a 5-10 minute call a day constitutes giving me time and attention, and who thinks that just cause I'm a woman I'll be fine without daily sex and can hold out just because they can. Which isn't true as I get incredibly sexually frustrated when someone witholds sex from me. This led to my last breakup where I straight up had to tell them you're not giving me XYZ, so I'm going to find someone else who will give me XYZ, and if you don't like it, perhaps you should have thought about that before promising me XYZ and not living up to your word. He was hoping he could keep me and drag me along doing the bare minimum because I was emotionally attached. Sorry bro that ain't how it works.

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Women are attracted to men who are attractive

But the idea is what makes them attractive. Despite what the blackpillers say here we both know looks only go so far for men, less far then they do with women.

Social proofing works very well with women, thats what n-count at least is implied here.

Lets put it this way, two average men walk into something like a night club, equal looks. One has a woman who's a 10 on his arm and the other a 3.

Women looking at that man are going to be curious what the guy with the 10 has going for him that he could be in the company of such a woman, unlike the guy with the 3.

Men seeing a average woman with a very attractive or unattractive man are going to pay less attention to the partner and only see an average woman. Men, as a group, don't think she must have something great going for her if shes with a 10 man and that shes worth investigating.

Its not a universal etc etc, but general trends between men and women.

So I don't think any woman goes "holy shit, he's fucked 100 women before he was 25, he must be a god, I must have his dick!" but, "This guy has been with a lot of women, I wonder what they see in him?"

Talk...talk....flirt... talk... flirt ... panties on the floor.

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It’s not preselection because the girlfriend has already selected him

Touché, it’s not preselection but the concept is the same. Women like it when they know other women also like her boyfriend.

Compared to having a boyfriend who they know couldn’t attract anyone else.

Multiple motivations can explain this behaviour

How? The studies are very simply and easily replicated.

Take a picture of a man standing by himself and get women to rate him.

Take a picture of him next to a pretty women, tell other women that’s his girlfriend, then get them to rate him.

They always rate him higher in the picture with the girlfriend.

There’s another famous way you can test this too, just wear a wedding ring. Many men have experienced women being more upfront/flirty after putting on a wedding ring.

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Idk, theres two problems. First off, I'm not where I want to be attractiveness wise. I've been told I'm cute (probably like a 5.5) and I'm a healthy BMI, I'm just skinny and being honest, looking in the mirror I really don't know what I could provide to a girl sexually. I just don't see myself in a sexual way at all. Of course this way of thinking is super unattractive, but I can't help it.

Second, I really don't know how to socially interact with girls. I'm the life of the party and have tons of guy friends, but I really don't know how to make my interest in a girl known without seeming like a creep. My logic is that if I was attractive enough, I really wouldn't have to try that hard to get interest from girls. But I haven't really had clear interest since my junior year of high school. So that just reinforces to me that I need to improve and get into the top tier.

I try to make myself busy with my career, academic pursuits, and hobbies, but man sometimes the thought of a loving relationship just hits so hard. Sorry for venting.

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I’d try to make time for it. Especially if you’re new to lifting, even 1 day a week will give you slower but incremental progress. You don’t need a full autism 6 days a week lifting schedule, especially at first.

You would probably get more clear hints, but I’d be careful in underestimating your ability to be oblivious, especially if you’re young. You might be getting hints that’s you’re just whirring on. If you aren’t sure, just go for it. Better to shoot your shot and miss than get yourself stuck in the friend zone.

You also have to be somewhat careful to not get into “bff” small talk. Make sure to tease and poke fun at her. Girls love that, and it really builds sexual tension. You can also overtly sexualize stuff. For example, if she tells you she works out, something like “don’t worry, I can tell.” Obviously this won’t land well if she isn’t into you, but again, better to shoot and miss.

Ultimately, a lot of it is going to be trial and error. You need to get out there and make mistakes. Just don’t sit on the sidelines because you’re afraid of making some girl uncomfortable.

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I think men don't even feel a true bond. The whole "if she had previous lovers she won't be able to bond and will cheat" is just their excuse for projecting. Men talk about spinning plates, cheating, having mistresses all the time. The only thing that's stopping them is opportunity. They would cheat on you in a heartbeat if a beautiful woman gave them the hint she would open her legs for them.

That's exactly why they are so scared of the high-N-count stuff. They know women with high n-counts have the opportunity so they assume they would act like they act. They would cheat. This is why men that are famous and rich tend to cheat on their partners. Because they have the opportunity.

Women do that far less than men because they are actually developing bonding to their partner. They know they have the opportunity but decide against cheating because they bond. This is why a lot of men are lucky that women prefer monogamy. Otherwise we all would do the harem thing and share Chad. But we enjoy the bonding experience. The average men is just settling into monogamy because they don't have the opportunity for a poly lifestyle.

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I am actually happy for women advancing in life, especially in male dominated societies. I've always thought that everything should be fair and equal whenever it comes to any gender. I think if you are raised under your mother or any female who works, you could have a better understanding of how good it isnto have successful women in this world. I don't remember if it was Kuwait or Saudi Arabia but about 5 or 6 years ago they had just started letting women drive, and I thought to myself how crazy it was that women couldn't drive for this long.

What I don't like is when women like to use the privilege card as a means of gaining an advantage within society. Saying you're a woman and you have to prove something because of that instead of it coming natural becomes more or less counterproductive.

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Well I wasn't talking about the so-called asexuals so I'm not worried about them if they want to live in their little roommate situations, that's their business and yes sex and the umbrella that covers is what separates a those things, you may say it's not healthy but thinking that way ain't killed me yet

and even if that was true, what would that have to do with body counts?

Exactly what I said, sex is important to a lot of people at varying levels, like as an example if a girl had a "party phase" and yet finds a guy that she likes but makes him wait a couple months, that's a red flag, or if you have somebody who's a virgin and wants their first time to be with somebody, if they find out the person they went out on a date with has a 50 plus body count, that might mean that they have different perspectives on sex and may not be compatible in that way, there's numerous examples but yeah it matters to a lot of people and that's cool

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Thanks! Yes, I have a mixture of homegrown and commercial varieties; I usually save the seeds and grow out 100 or so plants every year looking for 'keepers.' The best ones get carried over from year to year in my grow room (coleus are tender perennials and won't survive winters here outdoors) and their seeds get propagated going forward.

I was busy this spring so I didn't plant my usual test garden, although some volunteers are springing up among my container plants and maybe I'll find a good one in the mix! The one in the picture -- I call it 'Rusty Valentine' -- was actually one of last year's volunteers. It had a couple of traits I'm selecting for; the pink color, the ruffled edges and the 'warty' textured leaves. I also evaluate the plants' general form, hardiness, disease-resistance (scale can be an issue here, damnit) and ability to overwinter indoors (some varieties just languish, lol).

A couple more favorites that have been with me for many years: 'Starfish' Imgur

'Fractal' Imgur

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Men are still net positive tax payers on average while women are money sinks.

I think for you to get the logic you need to look at how it was before: Men wouldn't partake in building and maintain a city where they wouldn't have sexual and marital opportunities. So men seek places with women, they build homes and women build the community.

When it becomes impossible for men to just nope out of a place where there aren't marital opportunities, then women can take advantage of the infrastructure men build but without building the community. Sometimes they take men's spots, men need money to survive and to attract women, women need money to survive, but women can also marry to gain money... Men are having a lot less options in the end and are a lot less attractive to women as a result. It's a vicious circle then because the less men can provide to women, the more women choose to take a high earning job. That's what this opinion is about.

You can always argue that a lot of men are freeloaders too, but I'm not going to blame men for not being driven by poor perspectives. Society got greedy and put too much on men's shoulders while giving too much options for women, it's getting what it deserves: no baby at all.

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A SAHM is also being paid with food and roof over her head, along with companionship of someone she "supposedly" loves. Apparently, this is not enough, she needs payment as well, which is usually his share of property and earnings.

If someone does a cost benefit analysis, the housewife is so much more expensive.

Not only are you paying for her sustenance, you are also paying indirectly through your assets, she owns half of your labor while never having worked that labor. I have never heard of a case where a secretary gets a percentage of the CEO's earnings.

Just because someone does menial tasks for you doesn't mean they deserve a cut of your earnings or your assets. Plenty of work done by housewives can be quickly and cheaply outsourced, do all of the substitutes now have the right to the husband's property?

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It’s a good question and I think it’s complicated. My wife is a SAHM and I think it’s not an easy job and she deserves a hefty compensation should we divorce. On the other hand I have more money and properties at this point than any amount that she likely would have made on her own — and this is given that she had a low 6 digit job prior to marriage.

Morally speaking I think it depends on why we divorce. If it’s something like I messed up and cheated, I’d be comfortable giving her a million or two for her decade plus of service. If she messed up, then I would do anything in my power to pay as little as possible, but alimony for a year would still be fair. Half though seems a bit much either way — I made the money with no direct help from her, even granting that she did provide tons of indirect help by taking care the house and kids. 20-40% would probably be my range.

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Makes no difference. It's what's seen as "masculine" and "feminine" traits.

Traditionally speaking (not saying I subscribe to these views, not saying all people do, and I know you'll be like "but I don't!", and I know you don't, but I'm talking about most people, not you), it is scene this way:

Guy who fucks a lot (like James Bond) = masculine chad

Women who's virgin = pure sweet and innocent

Guy who's a virgin = complete loser (see movies like The 40 Year Old Virgin)

Woman who fucks a lot = slut

Again, not saying I agree with this, but these are the traditional parameters. Now women who argue that men who are virgins or haven't had many/any prior girlfriends make bad partners try to use logic to explain away their preferences. They say things like, "FOMO", "i don't want to be a practice girlfriend", "virgin guys are bad at sex", and of course the real reason is that it is simply an unattractive trait for men. These women are simply unattracted to the guy, no different than you might be unattracted to a fat person or whatever. Its an unattractive trait for men to have, so women are inclined away from them, but they try to rationalise away the unattraction by saying the things I said above. Its the exact same for men who have a low N preference. The difference is that those same women who try to rationalise away their dispreference for virgin/girlfriendless men, will try to rationalise that the guys exhibiting the exact same preference (but adjusted for masculinity/femininity) as them are sexist, misogynist, disgusting.

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Or, hear me out, men only wanting a virgin women if they themselves have a high n count is weird to a lot of women. The view that women who aren’t virgins are dirty/ unworthy while a man with sexual experience is something to be celebrated is clearly something that stuck around to this day (obviously not in woke circles but there’s enough people that think that way). If a guy states “my partner needs to have a low n count but that doesn’t apply to me”, women assume that’s what his view on women is, if a virgin wants someone with equally little experience that’s obviously viewed as more acceptable.

The part about women not wanting a virgin doesn’t make much sense to me and if there’s really a lot of women who think like that then sure, that sucks and I agree. However I’m seeing MUCH more discourse about women with high n counts being undesirable/dirty than any about mens n counts at all.

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One happens so much more often than the other. Plus it’s like that : wanting thing in partner and abiding by those same rules= bad. Guy is low n count and wants low n women =makes sense, guy is high n count and refuses to date non virgin women= weird. Same with women, if you’re high n count and want a high n count guy, that’s cool but if you won’t date a virgin even though you have no experience that’s weird.

The difference is, I don’t see a lot of outward shaming of low n count men as much as I see shaming if high n count women. I see women having sex presented as a inherently bad thing on here all the time. Like two days ago or something there was literally a thread saying “women with high n count are sluts, men with high n count are slut makers” and there’s comments like “bitches can’t keep their legs closed” all the damn time. I don’t see that with virgin guys. So yeah, I think they’re different.

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One happens so much more often than the other.

Women on reddit always say that PPD men who care about N count are a tiny minority and most men don't. Maybe its perception bias on your part because for me, I see the opposite.

The difference is, I don’t see a lot of outward shaming of low n count men as much as I see shaming if high n count women. I see women having sex presented as a inherently bad thing on here all the time. Like two days ago or something there was literally a thread saying “women with high n count are sluts, men with high n count are slut makers” and there’s comments like “bitches can’t keep their legs closed” all the damn time. I don’t see that with virgin guys. So yeah, I think they’re different.

Really? Cause there's a movie called "The 40 year old virgin" which is really popular and the central joke is that the guy is a virgin.

What's the most common go-to insult used by women towards men they disagree with? Incel? Not misogynist. Not sexist. Not asshole. Incel. Their favourite way to shut down a guy in an argument is to imply he can't have sex. In the old days it was virgin.

Plus it’s like that : wanting thing in partner and abiding by those same rules= bad. Guy is low n count and wants low n women =makes sense, guy is high n count and refuses to date non virgin women= weird. Same with women, if you’re high n count and want a high n count guy, that’s cool but if you won’t date a virgin even though you have no experience that’s weird

I understand what you're saying but you need to consider what are considered masculine attractive traits and what are considered feminine attractive traits. Whats attractive in one sex may not be in the other. Like height for example, or muscles. Its like saying a body builder can't be attracted to petite women, he has to like other only other body builder women. Just an example of the top of my head. A guy who's a virgin is seen as a loser, a guy who fucks a lot is seen as a stud. A woman who fucks a lot is seen as a slut, a woman who's a virgin is seen as pure. I'm not saying I agree with this, this is just the traditional view society has had. So basically women are saying to be attracted to whats traditionally seen as desirable in women, you must be what's seen as undesirable in men (and which they themselves wouldn't be attracted to).

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Men wanting younger wife causes seethe

There's only seethe when it's a 40yo trying to go after 20yos. That's usually a cause for concern. Generally most people know that (although slight) the age gap is usually older man/younger woman

men wanting low N/virgin wife causes seethe,

True

men wanting SAHM wife causes seethe

Eh. Usually because a SAHM just isn't safe for women and leaves them too dependent on the man. It does cause some seethe tho from heavily career oriented women.

men wanting non-fat or non-tall wife causes seethe

Really? These are pretty common preferences (except maybe not non tall) and I haven't seen seethe for it

men wanting wife of particular ethnic group causes seethe.

Eh. It's only sus if it's a different ethnic group than your own. And that's usually because those cases tend to be fetish-y.

Idk some of your points are valid but I think they're only held by specific subsets of women and not many "seethe" for all (or even most) of these

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I.e. you complain.

This is a debate sub. I have opinions and I'm going to share them. I have the right to point out what i perceive as unfairness and inconsistencies. Its not complaining, its the purpose of this sub. You interpret it as complaining, I interpret it as taking part in this sub.

Nope, it seems you have issues with understanding other people's texts as well.

Well maybe they don't clarify things properly either.

They're not the same. Like I might be disgusted with an insect, but I don't hate them. I just don't want to deal with them and have them anywhere close to me.

Humans are not insects. When you say you don't want to have to deal with someone and not have them anywhere close to you, it gives off hate-y vibes. If I said I don't want to deal with a particular ethnic group or have them anywhere close to me, that would be considered racial hatred, and rightfully so. If I said I don't want to have to deal with gay people and have them close to me, that would be considered homophobia and hating gay people.

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Again, distrust isn’t the same as hate. Saying “all men are the same, they all want to hurt me” is different than saying “I’ve been hurt by men in the past and I’m scared I’ll get hurt again, but I really like this guy so I’ll try to trust him”. You might get a girl who wants to wait with sex because she’s been assaulted, you might get a girl who will need a lot of verbal reassurance because she’s been cheated on. If you don’t want that, that’s fine, someone’s mental health isn’t your responsibility but it’s just not hate.

If a woman is scared enough of men to be cold towards you and make you feel not liked, she probably doesn’t want to date you or be friends with you anyways so it’ll never be your problem. If a woman is distrustful towards men but decides to give a romantic/sexual relationship with you a chance, she likely doesn’t hate you and is just scared of getting hurt. You don’t need to interact with either of those women but the chances of having relations with a women that hates you is just super low.

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Because the decision to have casual sex, like most decisions seeking short-term pleasure, are driven by your dopamine circuitry. This part of your brain doesn’t calculate risk and reward very well. It’s the same circuitry that makes you grab an extra slice of pizza or drink beer.

When a woman is at a bar and sees an attractive guy, she doesn’t run a risk-reward optimization in her head based on the odds of him giving her an orgasm or the rate of sexual assault. Her animal brain sees handsomeness and says “go”

Sometimes the brain gets lucky and it’s steamy hot sex that even ends in a relationship or FWB. Sometimes it’s disappointing and boring. In rare cases it’s dangerous.

If I had to do a risk-reward optimization, I would argue that casual sex is net additive to women’s lives in expectation. You will meet guys and have positive sexual experiences with them that you would not have had via OLD or friends-of-friends. The odds of being assaulted are not high enough to warrant forgoing these experiences but that depends on your risk tolerance. I am a guy so I don’t know firsthand, but I have engaged in risky behavior like traveling solo to foreign countries where I didn’t speak the language. I have been pickpocketed and I’ve had gangsters try to drug me and leave me for dead (lucky escape). I think my life has been greatly enhanced by traveling to far-flung places and talking to strangers, I will keep doing it even though it’s put me in mortal danger.

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I say in that aspect we are unconscious about the risk/reward factor when we are more concerned about getting pleasure at the moment. Add that to the environment we are in at the moment can help the decision making process push towards what we want at the moment as opposed to what is right for us.

In the end, no matter who we are or what type of sexual activities we engage in, we roll the dice on the possible outcomes, with the hopes of being good. I do see where you're coming from in your opinion.

I have been pickpocketed and I’ve had gangsters try to drug me and leave me for dead (lucky escape). I think my life has been greatly enhanced by traveling to far-flung places and talking to strangers, I will keep doing it even though it’s put me in mortal danger.

You gotta be careful when you're in unknown places especially as a tourist. Glad you're safe though.

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Yea casual sex can result in lasting relationships.

Every year, Match conducts a survey on unwed Americans to gather data on sex and dating habits. This year's survey produced some results that should be very interesting for the casual sex haters out there. The Washington Post reports:

...A quarter of singles have converted a one-night stand into a long-term relationship.The Match study also found that, while online daters have sex more frequently than offline daters, they’re not more promiscuous. Both groups, on average, had the same number of sexual partners. When compared with offline daters, online daters were twice as likely to 'imagine a committed future with someone while on a first date' and 58 percent more likely to want to marry.

Source: https://www.bustle.com/articles/140592-casual-sex-can-lead-to-long-term-relationships-this-anthropologist-says-and-heres-how

In before “online dating isn’t real life”

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If I married someone 10 years younger than me, I wouldn't be surprised if they cheated.

Morally/legally OP is wrong. However, if someone cheated on me, I can't say that I wouldn't have done the same. Moving out of a country doesn't legally absolve anyone of financial requirements. It just means that it would be more difficult to hold them legally accountable, but it isn't impossible to hold them accountable.

The young bride should have protected herself better financially. She's dumb to cheat and then just believe that her ex husband would be cordial about the whole ordeal. Women do set themselves up to take a dry and chaffed assfuck when they depend on men financially.

People become vicious in divorces, especially when infidelity is involved.

I can't say what he did is right, but I can't say that I blame him. Young wife should have considered a better life plan.

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Holy shit, that thread is amazing.

I agree with you. I’ve long held the belief that almost nobody actually accepts abortion due to bodily autonomy. Usually when you press people on it, you get a bunch of indefensible gibberish and they eventually fall back on “but a fetus isn’t a person,” which is NOT an argument from bodily autonomy. Bodily autonomy arguments should work even if a fetus is a “person.”

I’ve always assumed this was because the mainstream (feminist) narrative requires the issue to be about bodily autonomy in order to frame it as a “women’s rights issue” for political points, otherwise it’s fundamentally an argument about personhood and you can’t pull the “women are oppressed” card. But maybe you’re right; it’s about maintaining control of motherhood, life of the fetus be damned.

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I can assure you, I have zero issues understanding the argument. To be frank, I’m a little baffled at how you can jump from my statement “most people have beliefs inconsistent with their bodily autonomy stance” to “oh, obviously you just don’t understand the argument.” That seems like quite a stretch.

But sure, we can hash this out. Precisely, I’d contend that your statement:

Even if it would kill you as you are right now, much less a fetus.

Is obviously false, specifically when the fact that the procedure would kill me is your fault in the first place (as in consensual sex). To illustrate this fact, consider the following thought experiment:

Let’s say I like to drive drunk on a regular basis. Most of the time nothing bad happens, but we all recognize I’m taking a major risk when I do so.

One day, fate finally turns against me, and I get into a major car accident with you. In the process, we both get knocked unconscious and your heart gets crushed which will lead to your death. By some quick thinking, one of the paramedics manages to hook you up to me circulatory system to keep my alive as we go to the hospital (a la the famous violinist).

When we wake up, the doctors inform us that you are on a waiting list to get a new heart in a few months. If we remain connected, they can replace your heart and save your life, but if you’re they disconnect you from my circulatory system before this point, there is no way to save you and you will die.

In this scenario, if I invoke my bodily autonomy and demand to be detached from your body and you die, would it be fair to say that I am responsible for killing you? Is this permissible, or have I done something blameworthy?

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All in all, a vehicular manslaughter.

Setting aside the fact that DUI deaths can often also be charged with murder, it seems we would agree that the action is a punishable crime.

Therefore, would it not be reasonable to conclude that if a woman takes the risk of getting pregnant, thereby forcing the fetus to use her circulatory system, she is similarly blameworthy if a person (the fetus) dies as a result of her behavior?

you seem to think a punishment is in order for the crime of gasp having consensual sex!

Not quite. I’m saying it’s punishable to knowingly take a risk which forces someone else to be dependent on you and then subsequently taking your support away. You don’t necessarily seem to disagree since you agreed the thought experiment would result in at least a manslaughter charge. Do you have an actual justification for why this doesn’t also apply to pregnancy?

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I don’t understand your point at all, no. Mostly because your still not getting the whole “in every other case of bodily autonomy, it is not a crime” thing. Quit comparing it to crimes. This is nothing like shooting your child. It’s more like not giving a kid a lollipop. We never even think about it if one adult does not give an unrelated child a lollipop, because quite frankly, it would be weird to even consider. However if a kid really wants a lollipop and their parents don’t give them one, we might think they are being obstinate, but they were under no obligation to do it in the first place. Is there something to be said about a parent not giving sweets being worse than a stranger not giving sweets, sure. Should we make a special exemption for parents to be required to give sweets when other people wouldn’t have to? No, that would be ridiculous.

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Mostly because your still not getting the whole “in every other case of bodily autonomy, it is not a crime” thing.

It’s not that I don’t get it, it’s that it isn’t relevant. It assumes there is no relevant differences as compared other issues of bodily autonomy, which clearly isn’t the case.

Sure, we don’t allow someone’s bodily autonomy to be violated in a vacuum, but people also aren’t typically invading someone else’s (the baby’s) bodily autonomy in he process. Further, you aren’t directly responsible for a situation where another person’s life is dependent on your body. Those are absolutely massive difference which cannot be neglected from our consideration.

It would be like me saying “we give people the freedom to choose where they put their hands. It’s ridiculous to say it’s a crime for me to forcefully put my fist in the same spot as your face! In every other case the place where you choose to put your hands places isn’t a crime!”

This is nothing like shooting your child.

Ending the life of a child via intentional miscarriage is less like ending the life of a child with a gun than giving it a lollipop? That’s a brain twister if I’ve ever seen one.

Facetious comments aside, this section of your post seems a little confused and doesn’t seem to address what we are taking about. Recall that I’m responding to your claim/objection that “IF we accept that a woman is deserving of punishment for aborting a child which she forced to be dependent on her body, we most also punish the mother when someone else forces her to miscarry.”

You seem to be attempting a sort of reductio ad absurdum by implying that we would need to punish women for miscarriages. My point is that your argument fails because you are suggesting we would need to hold pregnant women to a standard of responsibility that we never hold anyone to (preventing any conceivable bad thing that could ever happen to a child) in order to hold them accountable by a standard which we regularly do (not intentionally killing them yourself).

I get that you keep wanting to keep circling around to this idea that a mother has no obligation/culpability for removing support of a fetus which forces to be reliant on her, but you haven’t remotely defended that position beyond declaring it true by fiat. Further, you actually agreed with my DUI thought experiment which clearly suggested that the driver (mother) would actually be guilty of manslaughter if she disconnected the other injured driver (child) due to her role in his bodily dependency.

If you disagree, you need to actually support your supposition as well as explain why pregnancy is sufficiently different from the thought experiment.

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It’s not that I don’t get it, it’s that it isn’t relevant. It assumes there is no relevant differences as compared other issues of bodily autonomy, which clearly isn’t the case.

What do you mean it "clearly isn't the case"? and you accuse me of arguing by declaring things true by fiat. I assume you are referring to that forced reliance you keep bringing up, which you also equate to the reliance created by being the passenger in a car. Except that's not the reality of the situation. The reality is that we should have every expectation of being able to have unprotected sex (or even underprotected not all contraception is 100% reliable) without penalty. For the sake of argument, consider if the only thing you know about a couple is that they had unprotected sex. You do not know if conception happened, or what happened to the fetus if it did. Are they already on the hook for a crime? If your answer is that is no, then understand that means the woman employing her right to bodily autonomy also should not violate any crime, and that they should not be penalized for anything. If your answer was yes, they are on the hook if it resulted in a fetus, in which case they are liable to carry it to term, barring any mishaps, then understand that I am frankly disgusted by your criminalization of sex. After all, that's all you know about the couple, but answered yes. Regardless of my disgust, the "barring any mishaps" is doing so much heavy lifting in that sentence that I think it resembles Atlas, because it also doesn't exist. The "barring any mishaps" gives free reign for when you think the mother is faultless, but is so pliable to include a health related miscarriage, but not an induced health related miscarriage. Now, you might draw an equivalence like "well, I don't think all lottery players should have increased taxes, but if they win they should be taxed on it." and I wouldn't disagree, but understand that thing actual being penalized there is playing the lottery, not winning the lottery. You can only make laws to limit actions, not outcomes. So which action is the one that should be illegal? The abortion, or the sex?

To put it back into the passenger example, if the guy broke into your car without your knowledge and hid in the trunk, and you wanted to go for a Saturday drive around the neighborhood. You didn't force him there, but when you get caught in a landslide, you are both injured. (yes I'm removing the DUI part and the driver being responsible for a crash, because neither have an equivalence in abortion. If you disagree with that, it's because you actually disagree with the penalizing of unprotected sex, not abortion) as before, the EMT hook his failing heart up to yours. (somehow? I think the original example is kidneys.) Should you be penalized for opting out? No, you would not, and should not. The only reason I said before that you would get penalized for vehicular manslaughter is because of the differences between those examples and this one. Namely, that I was buying into your false equivalence between willing drivers and passengers as to women who had unprotected sex and fetuses.

The lollipop example was about bodily autonomy, it's the difference between if you are required to do something for someone (give a kid a lollipop) rather than not do something (like you shouldn't shoot the kid.). Just like how it's the difference in continuing to give access to your body to the fetus, rather than killing the fetus, even when those end in the same result.

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I'm pretty sure I remember you saying that everyone cares about money and that we're all "gold-diggers" to an extent (because I agreed with you). So to your point a man's money is at least as important as his age if not more. And his looks and personality are going to be more important to a great extent as well because the first impression and the "chemistry" is entirely built on those factors.

The supposed rarity of large age gaps has been brought up ad nauseam on this sub, but the proportion of age gap marriages that are 10 years apart is about 8% of the population. And that's just marriages, not including casual dating. For reference interracial marriages are 15% of the population and you see mixed race couples everywhere in large Western countries.

Which means your estimate of how common age gaps are is going to be skewed by the nature of them being less noticeable because it's generally easier for people to look different from their actual age. Versus it being pretty hard to camouflage your actual race.

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Divorce is a different issue than the one we're talking about, which is the initial attraction. Age gap attraction is not uncommon, which explains the consistent stream of personal stories and (controversial) posts in dating subs about it. And which also explains why the moral panic over it even exists, because people recognize it happens often enough to talk about.

That said without knowing the guy's age it's kind of ridiculous for a 22 year old woman, let's say, to assert that they would be attracted to a random 27 year old guy but never a 32 year old guy, for instance. The progression of looks-related aging in those 5 years isn't that staggering unless you believe in the Wall and that it only applies to the opposite gender.

And the point about divorce rates can easily be attributed to the confounding variable of societal shaming causing the couple to break up, instead of the reverse order where a toxic relationship breaks up and justifies societal shaming.

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It's not a different issue. It's part of the issue.

I didn't say age gaps don't happen. I said that smaller age gaps are preferred by most women which is correct. If you controller for all variables, a 26 year old woman will prefer a 29 old over a 39 or even 36 year old . Since most people eventually want long-term relationships, the factors that lead to them are of highest importance. Whether the 26 year olds finds a 36 year old sexually attractive bears a snaller significance as most people don't sleep or have relationships with most people they encounter whom they find attractive.

The idea that divorce rates can be attributed to sociatal shaming is a very generous one. I think it's more about factors like mobility, the future, attraction and simply the lack of necessity. There is no reason for a woman to go for an older man if she finds a man who's only a handful years older than her whom she likes. The biggest reason why she would go for the older man is money.

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Whether the 26 year olds finds a 36 year old sexually attractive bears a snaller significance as most people don't sleep or have relationships with most people they encounter whom they find attractive.

Sure you can't sleep with or date everyone you find attractive due to logistical impossibility, but the ones you do end up dating you'll at minimum be attracted to on average. And that connection supercedes traits that don't really tell you much about a guy's personality like his height or his age.

There is no reason for a woman to go for an older man if she finds a man who's only a handful years older than her whom she likes.

Of course there's a reason, it's the same reason why a woman would prefer a guy who's 3-5 years older than a guy the exact same age in the first place. Both the desirability of a 3 year gap and a 10 year gap can be explained by the same basic rationale (guy supposedly has more confidence, experience, financial stability), the only difference is that the cost-benefit of the social stigma that comes with it varies according to individual preference/tolerance on a spectrum.

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I would only date a cis heterosexual man who is only attracted to cis heterosexual women. I don’t disapprove of other peoples sexual lives but I don’t want it in my personal life. I’m not entirely sure why I have this preference in the same way I don’t know why I’m allergic to nutmeg, it’s just who I am.

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I would not. I'm attracted to men that like women. I am not attracted to men that like other men. Imagining my male partner with a dick in his mouth or butt would be a super huge turnoff.

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i would not date a bisexual person and idk if that’s homophobic or not, but it would turn me off thinking of him with another guy or having him lust after men. just no.

i know it might be wrong but i can’t help but feel like it’ll make me think of my boyfriend as less masculine

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i don’t want to date a man who likes dick. it’s that simple, i would be soooo turned off and weirded out if i tried dating a guy who likes men too.
nothing against ppl of any sexual orientation obviously but i am not attracted to bisexual men at all

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If you want me to be completely honest, I don’t trust a bi man to not cheat or propose a non-monogamous relationship at some point. The average woman can’t compete with the sex drive of the average man. He will eventually get tired of having sex only three days a week when he knows there are plenty of men who will fuck everyday multiple times a day.

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I see that you are a radfem. May I ask... Why do you only see women as victims in sex work and porn? OnlyFans is not frequented by 50 year old men. It is mostly young men who have given up on finding a girl friend.

These young men would have been able to find a partner before online dating gave women abundance of choice. One woman will reject men on dating apps because that they are not tall. But if she met a short man at a mutual friends party she wouldn't mind. As a trans man, I have experienced this alot. And sadly, the online space is taking over real life spaces.

Women can be victims of modern dating too. Many women, especially young ones, cannot differentiate between men using them as a masturbation tool or wanting to be in a relationship. I have seen plus sized girls being convinced that the men who use them secretly find them attractive! They cannot grasp the idea of sleeping with someone you find repulsive just so you wont have to use your hands.

Don't you think that women doing OnlyFans are predators rather than prey? They take advantage of lonely men. Do these men not deserve sympathy as well?

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Title	Daily Community Chat Megathread
Author	AutoModerator
Upvotes	10
Comments	1859
Date	July 21, 2022 10:00 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/w4cr0w/daily_community_chat_megathread/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/daily-community-chat-megathread.1124446 https://theredarchive.com/post/1124446