Do you feel like a lot of redpill or jaded men have undiagnosed neuro conditions?

Green-Quantity1032 · 2024-02-24T15:07:18+00:00

It's been studied that the incel community has a higher autism rate than general population.

Also, they tend to be more risk-averse (less drinking, smoking, hitting on girls etc)

I don't think anyone that thinks he needs step-by-step instructions always means neurodivergent though, sometimes people really lack the experience and the know-how of learning things by, well, experience.

Combine that with being risk-averse and afraid of negative social interactions and rejections and you got yourself a guy sitting at home complaining about not being able to get women.

I'm the first guy who'll say looks matter a lot - but they matter more for the quality of girls than quantity - average guys can still get action from below-to-just-above average girls if they seriously go for it.

MisterFunnyShoes · 2024-02-24T13:51:54+00:00

A lot of people on Reddit generally have both diagnosed and undiagnosed neuro issues.

philseven12 · 2024-02-24T14:08:59+00:00

nah, its just that women act really stiff around dudes they don’t like and those dudes have no experience being around women who actually do like them. its like trying to explain the intricacies of a sunset to someone who lived in a dark basement their whole life. its gotta be experienced to be understood

same goes for guys who think women don’t like sex. dudes need to understand that women switch up their operating system depending on what dude is around. if they think you’re unattractive then youll only experience the “bad” side of women

purplish_possum · 2024-02-24T16:54:45+00:00

Because there must be something wrong with frustrated unsuccessful men?

alebruto · 2024-02-24T13:41:10+00:00

I felt like a lot ot PEOPLE have undiagnosed neuro conditions. No needs to specific

Expensive-Tea455 · 2024-02-24T16:34:55+00:00

Yes, I see a lot of the questions that some of the dudes in this sub come on here and ask… they’re questions that I feel like should be common sense if their brain developed correctly, so I think a lot of the men who claim to be red pilled are usually autistic and therefore have a hard time navigating complex situations like dating and marketing themselves in an attractive manner to get the women they want… so instead they turn to red pill shit because I guess that’s easier for them to do 🌝

aslfingerspell · 2024-02-24T14:36:29+00:00

I certainly think it's possible. I remember someone making a post here about how it's possible some TRP thinkers may have been dating women with undiagnosed bipolar disorder, and it kind of interested me.

Likewise, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people with dating troubles (both men and women) were disproportionately neurodivergent in some way, especially if undiagnosed. As a diagnosed person, I know how my experience colors the world and can adjust my sense of frustration. I can come away from something in society upset, but at least think "Well, this just wasn't made with me in mind." or "There is a logic here, I just can't see it."

For example, I've been told that having headphones in, giving one word answers, and looking away are all signs that someone doesn't want to talk to you, yet people consistently want to talk to me when I do all those things? Why? It's because doing those things in a social environment (party) overrides or at least softens the usual rule against it. If I did those things in a gym or work setting, people would get the message.

On the other hand, if I was undiagnosed, and also unaware there was anything different about me, I might go through life feeling a lot more angry, like a colorblind person who feels everyone else is gaslighting him for being able to say two "identical" colors are somehow different when his own eyes aren't lying to him, or so he thinks.

EveningEveryman · 2024-02-24T19:16:41+00:00

What people don't tell you about neurological conditions is that they usually emerge because of actual issues the person faces and not in some sort of vacuum.

Razieloo · 2024-02-24T13:37:21+00:00

"Everyone who disagrees with my point of view suffers from a mental health condition"

TRTGymBro · 2024-02-24T14:00:31+00:00

No, I don't think that's necessary the case. I think many boys don't have ANY guidance on how to navigate relationships. Everyone blames moms for not telling their sons lbs a bad boy because girls like exciting dangerous types". But that's stupid and shortsighted. If you were a dad, would you give dating advice to your daughter that says "guys love a girl who shows skin and looks and acts sexy and gives great blowjobs, so if you are going out, make sure your skirt is shorter and your heels higher honey. And don't forget to put on MORE make up".

Imagine that! I don't think you will find a father in the world who would advise his daughter to do that. But do you know who does? Moms! Moms absolutely pass on their knowledge of how to seduce men to their daughters. Why are not fathers doing the same? That's who you should be blaming. The dads. But the problem is the dads are as clueless as the sons.

So what you are observing is actually maladaptive behavior from guys, brought on due to frustration. They are not getting anywhere with women and they think the solution is to be more of this and more of that. But the real problem is how they perceive themselves. And the reality is they perceive themselves as inferior to women. Inherently so.

If you doubt me, analyze the posts of most of the pill related guys. Hell, any guy. Here are some common things you will hear:

women have inherent value, men have no value, they have to earn it. This translates to: women are inherently superior, men are inherently inferior, but they can work hard to bridge that gap.

-women have all the power in sex and relationships, they can fuck whomever they choose whenever they choose. This translates to: men are powerless, men are inferior, women are superior and all powerful.

-even average frumpy plain janes want a 6'5" and won't settle for less. This translates to: women are superior, they have all the power, men are inferior and they have to settle for scraps.

See the commons thread here? Still don't get it? Here it goes: the typical male perception is that women are somehow superior and men are somehow inferior, inherently. By nature. As designed by God. So all of their beliefs and behaviors are going to be aligned to this original assumption: "I'm down here, she is up there. She needs to do NOTHING, while I need to do everything and more just to get to her level."

That's where the frustration comes from. That's why men struggle because they are playing on the assumption that they are inferior and they need more stuff just to get an average woman. They perceive a gap and they see the solution as filling the gap with more money, success, popularity, heigh, looks, etc.

The thing is no one ever questions that inherent silent assumption that men are the inferior sex. Men just accept it as a universal law. It's not. Unless they figure out how to change that underlying assumption, they will always keep struggling and failing.

Silver_Past2313 · 2024-02-24T14:02:49+00:00

No. Most men intuitively understand these things. But when following social conventions doesn't lead to any dating success they will start to just try anything. Throwing darts at the board. Then when that doesn't work they'll complain.

"Approaching" is and always has been a social taboo. Now, standing in line at the grocery store and a guy walks in with a clown costume, someone comments, and you respond, that's normal. But just randomly talking to people in the street hoping they'll SLEEP with you? It's obviously weird. No men would do it if they weren't desperate.

Cethlinnstooth · 2024-02-24T14:08:24+00:00

Yes.

I think a lot of them arrive at late adolescence and the strong desire to date already well practiced at ignoring the blatantly obvious facts about themselves.

Nellylocheadbean · 2024-02-24T15:29:27+00:00

I just think they’re very socially awkward/inept/unaware & come off weird.

Talking to men (just a simple conversation not even related to dating) that have no struggles with women compared to talking to men that struggle with women is like night & day.

I’m learning how much women has an effect on the male psyche. It’s interesting.

apresonly · 2024-02-24T18:21:36+00:00

No, i think the deal they are getting in life is worse than what their fathers and grandfathers got

its fair to be upset and jaded by that info

what makes it weird is that their fathers and grandfathers had a better deal by oppressing women and withholding rights that would have allowed women to be independent

now that women have enough rights to be able to be independent, we see them choosing to partner with men less

men have to do more to have less than their dads had because women are no longer forced to accept a deal that benefits them less than their male partners

babazuki · 2024-02-24T13:39:37+00:00

Every culture has ancient proverbs about women being difficult.

It's not a new phenomenon. Everyone has always known it, especially other women.

What's new is people pretending they are the same as men. That's what causes confusion now.

wtknight · 2024-02-24T14:50:57+00:00

In my opinion, "neurodivergent" is often just used as some fancy word to label peple who don't conform to the predominant mode of thinking in society, it seems. A lot of men just can't put themselves into the shoes of a woman and understand how women think and feel. I'd hardly call that neurodivergent. Women do the same thing with men, and TRP calls it "female solipsism". All this is is "male solipsism".

There are also plenty of Red Pill men who don't have a problem attracting a less attractive woman for a relationship. What they want is casual sex with many women like what "Chad" has. What a lot of people like OP seem to be doing is labeling Black Pill/incel type thinking as "Red Pill".

CasseroleTruck · 2024-02-24T17:51:50+00:00

I want to say more than half of people - and this might still be a huge understatement - who spend a lot of time online are mentally fucked. So yes.

Purple_Kangaroo8549 · 2024-02-25T01:46:05+00:00

Stop validating female neuroticism.

Dr_Click_Click_Boom · 2024-02-25T00:55:59+00:00

No. Around 2% of the general population has autism. TWO PERCENT!!!!

But according to the neurosurgeons on PPD every third person is autistic. If we're being honest we'd admit that the trend on PPD toward calling people autistic is just a backdoor way of calling them a word that rhymes with regarded.

Hermaphrodites, wiccans, flat earthers, Jehovah's Witnesses and members of the Whig party are more represented in society than autistic people but since none of the aforementioned reinforce PPD talking points they don't get mentioned. Instead we are led to believe that 90+ percent of the population suffer from undiagnosed autism.

People really need to get better talking points.

And let me repeat this for emphasis: "Autistic" is just a backdoor way to call people retarded without calling them retarded.

M12_cavesrl · 2024-02-24T13:47:39+00:00

Yes i'm a total fucking retard

SecondEldenLord · 2024-02-24T13:57:16+00:00

What an absolute horrendous take. Imagine calling everyone with a different opinion and view from yours mentally ill. Women have been difficult since ancient times and they are more so with the development of technology and social media. Men are a lot more simple creatures, just because they refuse to play your mind games and mental gymnastics doesn't make them mentally ill. Men are a lot more direct, they say thing how they mea. It and that is how it should be. These fucking mind games are annoying and it is played only by cowards too scared to confront difficult situations.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-02-24T14:12:18+00:00

Never trust a profession whose job is to explain why you need them, anything under the sun is being labeled mental illnes in order to fuel peoples into buying meds.

wolfloveyes · 2024-02-24T13:37:05+00:00

Those men might not be jaded, male and female behavior is different and need open mind and great communication skills and free from prejudice to make work.

This alone eliminates like 90% population (as they lack these skills) and their relationship fails.

Then there are others who never manage to grow out of their traumas and develop self awareness.

You can keep blaming others all you want but understanding, compassion, sense of fairness, empathy will beat out all odds and make relationship last and fulfilling.

When you make such bond, no chad Or stacy will live upto the sexual/emotional high you'll receive from an ordinary person.

Most people are spiritually dead now. It takes 2 to tango, two spiritually people can form great bonds and reach next level of relationship.

I had a kind hearted friend who fell in love with a depresses girl (who got gammed by a fuckboy, who abused her and made her suicidal). My friend helped her for years but at end become suicide, since she started having man hating tendency, no matter what he did she couldn't see his kindness. She was living in her trauma and punishing this new man in her life (who had her best at his heart), some years ago he committed suicide, this helped her see "him" and overcome her trauma and man hate. Today she's in fulfilling relationship as she gives a good man chance again.

Stop chasing emotional addiction and abuse. Make better decisions based on character, understanding and assuming best from the other side.

merewautt · 2024-02-24T18:59:08+00:00

I’ve always thought a lot of the more rage inclined, rant-y, “everything is fucked and I’m doomed” ones would be diagnosed as borderline if they were women.

The black and white thinking, splitting, rejection dysphoria, neediness, clear hierarchical/game theory thinking in interpersonal relationships, emotional outbursts (especially about what they think people think about them that sounds bizarre to any third parties), hostility/idealization, grandiosity, lack of insight, risk aversion to putting themself in challenging but healthy situations, unacceptance of anything but grandiose levels of validation, immediate fears of being abandoned if/when they ever get what they want, catastrophizing, lack of patience/impulsive frustration, etc. are all there.

A good amount of comments here are almost text book. I think a lot them would be done a lot of good if they’d read up about it or even read the posts in the BPD subs. It might answer a lot of questions for them and be that missing piece that they could never understand about how they feel versus how everybody else seems to feel.

Cool_Ranch_2511 · 2024-02-24T20:42:37+00:00

In this society , certain undiagnosed neuro conditions can work to your benefit , like narcissism, machiavellianism and psychopathy :)

operajunkie · 2024-02-25T02:47:23+00:00

I went on a date with a guy who was a very obvious subscriber to red pill ideology and he was 100% autistic. Like socially oblivious in a big way.

badgersonice · 2024-02-24T13:54:31+00:00

You know, a lot of them could just be either dumb or weird. Not every problem in life is caused by something in the DSM.

Filmguy000 · 2024-02-24T13:54:01+00:00

Some yes. Some no. Some are neurotic. And some just gained wisdom.

Some men avoid women because they have a deep seeded frustration towards them due to many rejections in life. A lack of self awareness or introspection is very common with theses types as well.

Some men avoid women because they learn to understand female nature, don't like it, shrug it off and resume life without them or only date casually.

Ok-Dust-4156 · 2024-02-24T14:25:12+00:00

Not sure. Ability to read body language need some experience (at least as an observer) and not being focused on yourself all the time.

Mentathiel · 2024-02-24T14:49:00+00:00

This has even been studied a bit, Google studies of incels. There's a higher than average prevalence of formally diagnosed depression, anxiety, and autism at least, if I'm not mistaken. We don't have data on undiagnosed ones, but some researchers plan to look into that in the future as well.

KingLancelot1991 · 2024-02-24T15:51:49+00:00

No, that’s ridiculous.

We’ve seen the bad side of feminism/femininity.

that’s the unifying factor.

Go be a bigot with made up justifications somewhere else.

Proof_mongol9135 · 2024-02-24T13:45:07+00:00

most women only "love" what men can provide for them (whether this is defined as wealth, attractiveness) and not for what they innately are. body language gaslighting is "nicer" way to say that he is not rich , attractive enough.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-02-24T14:08:08+00:00

This article basically explains how a Non-NT person can easily get pulled into the manosphere or other online bubbles

https://www.spectrumnews.org/features/deep-dive/radical-online-communities-and-their-toxic-allure-for-autistic-men/

Roadsidepeekneek · 2024-02-24T13:55:09+00:00

Oh for sure I also feel like its harder than it needs to be to get a diagnosis

tadL · 2024-02-24T14:07:36+00:00

Sounds like the shame game all the way. Preferences are preferences.

So if your logic has to apply to male with preferences then it applies to all women too. So by default all women have what you call out

his_purple_majesty · 2024-02-24T14:32:13+00:00

I feel like you're talking about a specific subset of incels, not redpill men.

You're probably using jaded wrong too. Jaded means:

tired, bored, or lacking enthusiasm, typically after having had too much of something.

BatemaninAccounting · 2024-02-24T15:44:24+00:00

I'm willing to bet 100% have some kind of neurological conditions that prevent them from actually forming normal relationships with both men and women platonically.

GojosLowerHalf2 · 2024-02-24T16:02:42+00:00

yes. I always have.

Sadsad0088 · 2024-02-24T17:57:31+00:00

Yes, absolutely.

wheartv · 2024-02-24T19:28:37+00:00

Bad social anxiety can make someone appear on the spectrum when they are not and also prevent them from learning effectively from social situations.

But of course I don’t want to interfere with the male bashing.

It’s easy to paint your opponent with a dark brush.

For instance, half the extreme feminists I know appear to have borderline personality disorder.

A lot of jaded men weren’t jaded long ago but they went for the prettiest and smartest woman they could find and didn’t properly weight them being kind and sane. Also, they might have gone for the “low hanging fruit”. If you are male 7 and a female 8 approaches you, there is a good chance she is nutty. A lot of men have had really bad experiences, but of course because they are men they are not allowed to dodge accountability and so it is all their fault.

Ayaka_Simp_ · 2024-02-25T00:24:16+00:00

Nah. Women just kinda suck.

Sharp_Engineering379 · 2024-02-24T13:47:17+00:00

Here and IRL, definitely. Men who resort to cold approaching are pretty terrible at body language, standing way too close or square up and cut off any exits. It’s like getting dressed down by a drill sergeant and it’s really off-putting.

My brother does that. If he starts a conversation, he isn’t going to budge until he gets the response he wants, and he’ll stand right in doorways and spread his legs apart so it’s difficult to get past him.

Tendency towards black and white thinking and affinity for conspiracy is kind of a constant here and on TRP spaces.

Doesn’t mean they can’t learn and adapt if they want to, but masking is mentally and emotionally draining for people on the spectrum and most desperately seeks hacks or cheat codes so because they can’t stand pretending to be typical.

Safinated · 2024-02-24T14:29:01+00:00

The ones who complain about the looks and socializing requirements, and want guarantees and step by step instructions, yes

Far-Alarm-2740 · 2024-02-24T18:45:27+00:00

Red pill: women lacks accountability Women about red pill: accountability? Maybe men have undiagnosed neuro conditions.

Leave intelligent arguments to men.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2024-02-24T19:29:37+00:00

Nope. I've seen blue pill guys struggle with women just as much. The EI of a man with an IQ of 130 is supposedly equal to that of a woman with an IQ of 80 (I saw it mentioned on the Chris Williamson podcast, so take that as you may.)

I was lucky in that I had older sisters who made it a point to make sure that I understood what was up with women, and who I would sometimes help with communication issues they had with men - contra to popular belief, women often don't understand men just as much as men don't understand women.

Beyond this, I am sure the bluepills will push the "TRP guys are defective" because it suits their purposes - The American Psychological Association - which I am now certain is not stocked with the most masculine guys in the world - changed guidelines wrt Boys and Men declaring that Traditional Masculinity (or aspects thereof) are "harmful."

Drink up boys! The leftists are now claiming that we're pathological! HAH!

TermAggravating8043 · 2024-02-24T15:10:05+00:00

Yes. Almost definitely, I’ve had conversations with people here I can only describe as robots or Dwight from the office, and unlike him they don’t get better.

CliffPR · 2024-02-24T13:42:40+00:00

i think it’s just traumatic events not filling be processed and not forgiving individuals that have done you wrong but instead harbor those feelings and spew out your own projected failures to others and label them a “doctrine” or a “pill”.

Relative_Bee8356 · 2024-02-24T19:11:33+00:00

Yes.

Every time there's a thread on "what was your redpilling moment?" half the answers are shit like "a woman cheated" and "I noticed that a hot guy got a lot of attention." If women having normal desires and flaws was enough to change their entire worldview then, by definition, their original worldview was absolutely fucking dumb as shit.

The more I read from redpillers the more I'm convinced that intellectual disabilities/below-average intelligence explain a large portion of followers.

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2024-02-24T13:37:38+00:00

Sometimes. More often, I think they’re very young or have mommy issues.

GridReXX · 2024-02-24T15:19:40+00:00

It sounds like by how you described neurodivergent you mean ASD and not ADHD for example? I don’t know if they are all undiagnosed autistic.

But I do agree that whether it’s undiagnosed ASD or social “weirdness” that they’ve been socialized into, many of them do seem to be suffering from the lack of acuity you explain in your OP.

I don’t think it matters if it’s ASD or some other neurodivergence or not. Whatever it is, it’s something very obvious. And it’s obviously affecting their ability to connect; and make long-lasting bonds with others, both platonically and romantically it seems.

CraftyCooler · 2024-02-24T16:27:40+00:00

Not really. Both men and women tend to believe in things that they want to believe. Men believe in making money through gambling or bitcoin, that indifferent girl is sending subtle signs etc. Meanwhile women believe in left-wing delusions, social justice and this kind of bs.

SIeight_of_Hand · 2024-02-24T17:17:58+00:00

Most of them are plane autistic, i'm not gonna lie.

It’s all about if he can make it past the anger stage and fix what is wrong with him and enjoy better results.

Also for you i suggest not consuming any content that is not designed for you. Do not try to understand or rationalize what guys going trough TRP it’s most often just a loss of an illusion and overcome your own issues that stopped you from being successful in dating. It’s not meant for everyone.

The guys who are past TRP aren’t the same guys who just find themselves in the stages of denial.

spicytuna12391 · 2024-02-24T19:50:52+00:00

Absolutely lol

I know a couple of real life "Pill" guys. They are definitely on the spectrum. They're also socially awkward, "weird", and creep women out. They are also very naive since they believe everything they read on the internet. One dude was dating some girl in Thailand (never met her and we live in the US). He would photoshop her in pics with him so it looked like they were actually together. She wanted him to send her money and to come visit her in Thailand. When he said he couldn't, she suddenly "passed away."

Poor dude didn't realize he was talking to a scammer. But that's most red pill guys and passport bros...

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Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2024-02-24T15:27:20+00:00

Yes, i think to suggest otherwise would be illogical. A high amount have diagnosed conditions, and are open about it. If we know somethung disproportionately appeals to autistic people, it stands to reason that there will be a fair few undiagnosed autistic people.

I'd say the same about steam train enthusiasts, adults that are into Pokémon, and probably scientists.

stormiu · 2024-02-24T15:49:22+00:00

Well for one, you need to remember that you are on Reddit. A solid 70% (at least) of what you see on this sub is made up BS.

Apart from that, not really.

Someone else had pointed out the fact that women behave VERY differently around men they find attractive vs men they don’t. Yea, it comes down to reading them still, but the context they seem to get changed depending on if they actually are already attracted to the guy or not. And considering the unfortunate fact that most women don’t like most men, I think you can see why there’s such a discrepancy.

abaxeron · 2024-02-24T22:47:57+00:00

I feel like the blue pill is one huge induced neuro condition.

RandomAttackHelpMe · 2024-02-24T22:56:26+00:00

I see your point, but you talk about this problem like it's only these neuro divergent type of people who do this.

I mean more so the part of why you shouldn't say certain things to someone or the need to mask and take on the personality of guys they deem as more successful in dating.

Do you know how many neuro typical people I've seen who will say whatever cause they don't give a fuck? Plenty. Long story short, think of people who are like a mix of someone who never quite left high school mixed with having made a good amount of money and want you to know and will start shit and find problems where there are none and will fuck with you cause you're not one of them essentially.

One such example is, There was this one guy who at the most, he was kind of like hyper energetic, he'd come into work and you know when someone is like trying to get in your face and start a fight? Not even like aggressively, he was like subtle and sneaky and creepy about it. Closest comparison is, if you've watched Seinfeld, and Elaine is dating the guy who they call a close talker, it was like that, but much less innocuous.

This dude was not neurodivergent. He was even married with children.

And I accept any counter criticisms, all I ask is please, come up with another example or thought out argument or different scenarios, just don't come at me with this "Well some people are just assholes and you just can't let it get to you cause you can't control it" shit. That's not an actual counter criticism or argument.

Or this response I got to a similar discussion yesterday:

You can’t “solve” the problem of people being flawed idiots. You just have to accept that some people are unreasonable, and use them as a cautionary tale to avoid ending up as miserable and I likeable as they are.

I don't want to hear that shit cause it's not an actual solution.

I could think of other similar examples I've seen. Point is, while I agree with what you're saying about the creepy guys who should know why not to say or do certain things, this argument and similar ones is getting kind of old. Yes it's a concern, but it's also becoming a sort of scapegoat. I don't see as much attention put on like the example I gave, and that's what the change is going to have to be.

You need to realize neuro typical people do the same shit, yes willingly and/or maliciously, and I have come to realize that these problems and behaviors and attitudes do come from the social environment of some people. And yes, a certain portion of people need to be told and hear "Hey fuck you go tell someone who gives a fuck." Cause plenty of people clearly ain't hearing that.

This is what I used to see where I used to work. And I can think of so many examples that contradict what you say.

The other part of copying what others do that you see as successful, you've never seen or dealt with people who do the whole "Oh well if I just go and say that I say all of these nice things about you, you'll give me a deal or a discount cause that's what everyone around here does and has said has worked for them right?!?!"

One more example/point. As we have the ongoing entitlement debate and related issues, there was a post on here about basically the honest asshole sort of thing and how if someone is very what you see is what you get, while yeah a good idea mostly, it's when they're the annoying loud drunk or angry person etc., and well, can or would you be ok with that cause.....reasons????? Or like you know you don't like said things, but you are still with said person who does that, fine, just don't make it anyone else's problem.

My point is, so with all this talk about "entitlement", and how people do it sneakily IE I held the door open for you, did that one favor for you, let you in the door when your bags were full and it was raining, now you must sleep with me shit, which yes is a warped view

VS someone who is so honestly entitled and doesn't do it sneakily, cause hey, they're just being what you see is what you get and hey if they're entitled, that's just them!!!

But they're still entitled, don't you see how that uh, kind of destroys your argument of it being a problem? And it creates the whole it's ok for them to do it and get away with it, but no not you you're not as honest as them. It solves nothing by this looking one way while saying another sort of thing.

Like the regular and non neurotypical examples I gave. You want to start at least making an attempt at solving these things?, there has to be a mass mutual agreed sense of balance to this, cause if it ain't it's just going to go further and further and further.

Most_Read_1330 · 2024-02-24T23:36:36+00:00

Makes sense

DoinIt989 · 2024-02-25T04:06:46+00:00

Yes, but usually it's not autism. More likely to be psycopaths or Schizophrenia spectrum.

thetruthishere_ · 2024-02-25T07:07:03+00:00

I think some do but I think way more have other traumas and attachment issues.

Princessoflights · 2024-02-25T09:43:55+00:00

100%, most red pill men seem autistic which is the actual reason for their lack of dating success.

ro_man_charity · 2024-02-25T10:44:27+00:00

Black-n-white thinking, projections, insecurity/grandiosity/entitlement, refusal to do any introspection and using those to blame-shift, getting aggressive at legitimate grievances being voiced - signs of narcissistic personality disorder defense mechanism called "splitting". TBF, I assume most guys here are just very young and it could be adolescent self-centredness rather than something terminal (it's commonly accepted as an age norm).

I have a person in my close family with diagnosed NPD btw.

anonymousUser1SHIFT · 2024-02-25T11:49:57+00:00

Title only, yes for men and women.

At the same time, yes for blue pill wowm/men as well.

Continuing at the same time, some or both have valid concerns and experiences.

Here in PPD. Na, most are jaded bat shit insane people that probably need professional help.

Reversegiraffe1 · 2024-02-25T23:34:15+00:00

Just another gaslight by bluepill and feminists. So basically bluepillers can blatantly lie about things and when faced with overwhelming evidence and proven they have always lied they fall back to "ok maybe I did say those things but did you take that literally? You have a mental condition" instead of admiting they obviously lied.

Unique-Afternoon6316 · 2024-02-26T19:40:09+00:00

No, I know I'm neurodivergent. That's why I'm asking for the step by step guide- I want to understand the thought patterns of someone of which this kind of stuff is automatic.

Comprehensive-Bed35 · 2024-02-28T01:51:01+00:00

No, I feel like a lot of blue pill jaded women have undiagnosed conditions when it comes to facing uncomfortable truths.

Title	Do you feel like a lot of redpill or jaded men have undiagnosed neuro conditions?
Author	EsotericRonin
Upvotes	34
Comments	299
Date	February 24, 2024 1:27 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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