Let’s stop pretending guys don’t age and have just as many unattractive problems later in life

Fabulous_HonestTea · 2024-03-07T02:34:18+00:00

For the average man, aging is just putting a hat on a hat. When they’re young and virile, in the prime of their youth, average men struggle to get any woman to pay attention to them.

Then you get older and it’s the same shit plus bald.

Jaded_Interaction162 · 2024-03-07T04:43:10+00:00

I notice good looking guys are much more scared of aging than the average or ugly ones. It seems like people who have more to lose from aging fear it the most.

TonytheNetworker · 2024-03-07T05:45:40+00:00

Who cares anyway? Most Guys can barely get attention anyway when they have decent bodies, their dicks work, have a full head of hair, and good career prospects when they're actually young. 😭

cuteTroublexo · 2024-03-07T12:50:25+00:00

Aging is a part of life. I really wish red pill weirdos would stop obsessing with youth.. like, everyone gets old and unattractive. Looks fade! Women get old, and so do men!

AidsVictim · 2024-03-07T13:41:08+00:00

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his_purple_majesty · 2024-03-07T02:58:02+00:00

The difference is young attractive women go from being goddesses to being normal people. Most men just go from being normal people to being uglier/older normal people.

Cool_Ranch_2511 · 2024-03-07T01:42:25+00:00

The difficult thing is making guys worry about it any of this the way women worry about their own aging problems. In general we just don't give a fuck

Zabadoodude · 2024-03-07T01:50:02+00:00

I don't think anyone was suggesting that men are immortal or don't have health problems as they get old. All that's being suggested is that older men generally have an easier time dating or starting a family than older women do. Which is still true

lolthankstinder · 2024-03-07T04:43:11+00:00

One time a woman in college tried to convince me I had erectile dysfunction but my erectile functioned just fine with a more attractive woman. I’m not saying it doesn’t exist, but if I grow old with someone I love that I’m not that physically attracted to anymore, I’d rather just say I have erectile dysfunction than make them feel bad.

noonereadsthisstuff · 2024-03-07T02:27:44+00:00

Its not that men dont age or lose their looks as they age, its just that men value looks more than women so aging is a bigger issue for women.

Its a myth that men go for younger women, men go for the most attractive women, but since we all peak in our 20s and then go downhill thats usually going to be a younger woman.

KayRay1994 · 2024-03-07T01:50:18+00:00

Guys do age about the same way women do, however, I think the “men age better” statement or “men peak later” statement isn’t to be taken literally. What do women value in men? generally speaking, a man who is comfortable in his own skin, knows himself, who is financially and socially secure and who is in some form, accomplished or ambitious usually sums it up. Also, the physical traits men are seen as attractive for generally show with age (this is assuming a man takes care of himself, ofc) - a man in his 30s, maybe even early 40s is more of a man than a man in his 20s - the traits that define a man usually don’t form into fruition till later (assuming the man plays his cards rights) as these traits are made/earned with time.

I think that’s what it means - of course, if you don’t take care of yourself or never bother getting your shit together as a man aging into your 30s, your decline is gonna be far steeper than most people’s as a whole. That much is a given.

FreitasAlan · 2024-03-08T07:50:56+00:00

I don’t know the stats but things did get much easier for me after turning 30. Of course you need to maintain your health because it’s not the age itself that makes you better.

Stacie_Sophia199 · 2024-03-07T05:32:35+00:00

I also wondered where the story "men become better with age" came from. I rarely see older guys that I think "damn, you aged beautifully" more often than woman.

OptimistInHell · 2024-03-07T02:19:55+00:00

Evidently, its the women of this sub's turn to react to comments that triggered them.

Late-Insect-6852 · 2024-03-07T02:48:22+00:00

This reads like cope tbh. Most of a woman’s value comes from her sexual appeal so aging and becoming unattractive will always be much more of detriment to them than men.

Just look at all the post wall women in the acting and entertainment industry who complain about being discarded once they hit their 30’s while their male peers seem to have much more longevity in their careers

It’s not the same.

sevenstargen · 2024-03-07T04:14:24+00:00

I get waaay more attention fr9m women now that im older. Guys don't listen to this shit guys.

tritter211 · 2024-03-07T02:10:42+00:00

here's the problem with your view here:

Its not that we say men don't hit the wall, its just that hitting the wall is irrelevant for men because they are always valued for their "provider" status for all their life. In fact, there's even a minority view in TRP that says men hit the wall the moment they are born.

So statistically, a majority (if not all) of men are more likely to earn more money than what they earned in their 20's.

more job experience=More money=more status=highly valued in the dating/marriage market.

but women earning more is irrelevant if that doesn't come with youth and beauty.

Proudvow · 2024-03-07T03:14:29+00:00

Nobody said that. It's a strawman argument. Obviously everyone has a physical wall.

The reason it's brought up more for women is because the decline caused by their loss of looks is sharper. They go from highly attractive to mid. And many of them end up with kids, further sinking their appeal.

Most guys didn't look great to begin with, so whatever further loss of looks occurs in their late 20s and their 30s is often outweighed by what they gain in wealth, property, status, and confidence. Women aren't as heavily graded on those traits, so their gain in them is barely relevant to their dating status and thus doesn't offset the drop in looks.

purplish_possum · 2024-03-07T02:08:37+00:00

I'm going to be 60 in a couple of months. Fucked my GF three times in the last 24 hours.

Wonderful-Team-1315 · 2024-03-07T04:07:38+00:00

👍

Myagooshki2 · 2024-03-07T16:39:02+00:00

Someone who looks like Robert Kennedy Jr isn't going to have problems getting with 35+ year old women

AlmostKindaGreat · 2024-03-07T18:00:08+00:00

I agree with everything you said.

That said, you can check the charts on a recent post https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1b79cgd/if_mens_carnal_first_choice_is_younger_woman/

Even if men are falling apart as they age, most women still are most attracted to someone around their same age and not the young, virile stud.

HighestTierMaslow · 2024-03-07T05:02:41+00:00

I'd also add sperm banks don't accept sperm from men aged 40 and older. It's a waste of their time and resources to make that work when they can get better samples from younger men (to support your fertility comment)

spicytuna12391 · 2024-03-07T19:09:58+00:00

A lot of men age like shit. They don't moisturize or use SPF.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-03-07T02:07:15+00:00

Statistically you’re going to go bald in your life time

There's hair transplant, once women eggs are gone they're gone.

And everyone’s gangsta until erectile dysfunction comes knocking at your door

There's no Viagra for women sag body.

If you make it to age 60 your prostate is going to make it difficult to urinate-

Prostate will be the last of your problems when you reach the 60s.

research supports that male fertility also declines with age and even younger men have significantly lower sperm counts than the previous generations

Is almost like there's a never ending influx of estrogen going direct in our water treatment.

There is no wall or exact moment a person stops being attractive to everyone else on the planet,

It's relative, if you got the attention of 100 men and slowly you end up with only 1, yeah you're attracted to someone but the impact in the self-esteem will be visible

fatbandoneonman · 2024-03-07T14:15:10+00:00

For those who are not aware, this is how redpill justifies a much older, bald man having sex with a woman half his age.

The logic: women in their 30s who have slept around develop a “1000 cock stare” due to having sex, which the female brain cannot handle. Redpill believe that men’s brains are immune to this “trauma” induced “look”, thus, men can sleep around and be fine. An older men can thus be psychologically sound, but needs a woman in her 20s because those are the only women not “psychologically damaged” by having sex. This also includes sleeping w a teenager.

Redpill believes men age like a fine wine, but women “hit the wall” at 30. In other words, they believe men are superior and have more value throughout life whereas women only have value in their teens/early 20s.

Teflon08191 · 2024-03-07T03:03:55+00:00

Guys have unattractive problems later in life

Of course.

Guys have just as many unattractive problems later in life as women.

Nope. Not even close. What a bizarre thought.

The gender that stands to benefit more from their youth and beauty will inevitably have more "unattractive problems" later in life.

nightsofthesunkissed · 2024-03-07T01:46:36+00:00

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voidvoices · 2024-03-07T05:09:04+00:00

Having relationship or interest in someone based solely on looks says more about the person than we all think. If someone is with you because you are “hot”, they will drop in a blink when you get older or change your appearance.

Personality rules looks and always will, unless you are trying to hook up for life instead of finding partner to share life.

If men says “woman need to be this, do this or that”, he will be flagged as misogynistic and trying to dictate how women should live. Your post didn’t have any men saying that. Its interesting to see that men in general not only dont give f about looks, but also about statements like this.

Reality is, if you are not 6 feet, 6 figures, 6 pack, you will be invisible for mostly of women. Ofc theres decent human beings down to earth without delusional standards, but is being normalized those delusional standards on the course of the years, especially in the west. Alot of them even state those things with straight face. The mostly likely end will be more single people in the future and less babies, because if a relationship starts, normally is with the consent and interest of woman, since men have lower standards.

6teeee9 · 2024-03-07T10:09:07+00:00

this is why people should stick to their age range when looking for relationships!

pternal · 2024-03-08T13:28:54+00:00

The wall is not about attention because women can get more attention at any age than the average dude. It’s about when you can biologically have kids. My uncle had a kid in his 60s which has kind of been a mess but it did happen.

pternal · 2024-03-08T13:32:56+00:00

Aging effects women more because they can actually see the large decline in attention while men never got much to begin with

rejected-again · 2024-03-07T05:54:10+00:00

So women put on 5 pounds of makeup on their face and fraud their way to attractiveness and they still think they are more naturally attractive than men. Ridiculous.

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oooo020201lfl · 2024-03-07T05:42:03+00:00

Good thing I’m not an average guy

tadL · 2024-03-07T07:21:27+00:00

Substantial_Video560 · 2024-03-07T08:50:04+00:00

I'll get a hair system when I go bald in the future. Already planning it.

techr0nin · 2024-03-07T10:14:22+00:00

I dunno that anyone would argue that men don’t age. The argument is typically just that the window for men as viable mates tend to be longer — which is true, when using fertility as a criteria. I will grant that longer doesn’t mean indefinite, but also for men the decline is much more gradual.

If we are talking about pure physical attractiveness, then I would say that women typically peak in the early to mid 20s while men in the mid to late 20s, although obviously alot of that has just as much to do with lifestyle and genetics as anything else.

And finally there’s also just the matter of what each gender looks for in a mate, generally speaking. Men prioritize youth and attractiveness (not the only factors obviously and people still tend to mate assortatively), while women tend to have more holistic assessments of men that include status and resources (also not the only factors) which tend to increase over time. And I guess in that sense it also to some extent extends the male mating window.

PurplePillDebate-ModTeam · 2024-03-07T12:04:20+00:00

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DeJuanBallard · 2024-03-07T13:08:27+00:00

Yet another total misunderstanding of what "the wall" is.

BlzzdSuxDix · 2024-03-07T13:17:24+00:00

Just dont be obese and eat PROPERLY a lot of the effects you listed wont show up til your 70s or 80s tbh

2024-03-07T14:01:09+00:00

Some mens looks age better than others as well. Some men are average simply because they're plain, and for them ageing won't improve anything because they haven't got enough character in their face. Whether or not plainess can be overcome idk.

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kai77kai77 · 2024-03-08T00:07:53+00:00

Do you even know how many females are balding? Lol on you

Naragub · 2024-03-08T01:09:57+00:00

I’m ok with the notion of being frumpy at retirement age. This really has nothing to do with the actual discussion of dating. Yeah maybe in my “golden years” this applies lmao

DumbWordsmith · 2024-03-07T01:55:58+00:00

Much of that can be mitigated by prioritizing a nutritious diet and a healthy lifestyle. The real issue is that older men tend to eat like shit (and often hit the bottle), sit around all day, and skimp on sleep — all of which throw your hormones out of whack. Even young people are fatter and more sedentary than ever.

I'm not going bald, so IDGAF about that.

What you don't seem to understand is that we start at the bottom; we don't start with all of the leverage. We start with a giant wall we have to scale. An average-looking young man — with little money, experience, confidence, or social skills — is garbage in the eyes of society (especially in the eyes of young women). A hardworking, focused, fit young man has nowhere to go but up. And the more hardened he becomes through the challenges he overcomes, the more masculine his personality becomes.

Safinated · 2024-03-07T02:55:20+00:00

Men don’t care, so why should we?

Vern119 · 2024-03-07T03:43:43+00:00

Men value fertility so a 22 year old woman will generally be more appealing than a 42 year old woman. Women value resources so there are lots of single broke 22 year old men. Curiously, there are very few single (unless by choice) 42 year old multi-millionaires. Women’s dual mating strategy might have them cheat on the rich guy with the broke 22 year old though.

Siliconmage76 · 2024-03-07T03:54:23+00:00

I'm lucky. I maintained my good looks well into my middle age and still look mid 30's at 47. But I have seen guys much younger than me who have just been beat down by life. Fat, bald and gray.

But I've seen dudes in their 50's that look way better than me. Juiced up gym guys. But hell at 50 a man should be on some kind of HRT anyway.

Yeah, men can let themselves go. But getting in shape is much easier for an older man than a woman of equivalent age. So I think then advantage over 40 is definitely skewed towards men.

But there are ALOT of women who maintain gorgeous looks well into 60's. I've picked up quite a few.

lvoncreek · 2024-03-07T06:59:18+00:00

Men can compensate with wealth thats the only difference. Otherwise old men are not attractive, never been.

neomancr · 2024-03-07T10:49:46+00:00

I've looked the same since I was in my mid 60s.

Chance_Journalist_34 · 2024-03-07T11:55:16+00:00

Hilarious that a female is educating us men about our possible/probable future health issues.

The reality is, herein the UK, women and womens health problems swallow the overwhelming proportion of the NHS budget.

Yes most men will eventually suffer from aging and health problems. But theyre a tiny drop in the ocean compared to what women suffer. Just the Menopause alone has such a catastrophic effect on womens personalities, bodies and relationships its almost a miracle any stay married afterwards. Well actually the only explanation they stay married is the good grace of their husbands.

Mens issues can be minimised if only they took a more proactive approach to health in similar way many women do. Also ED is easily treated and in fact as ive got older my staying power had increased effective indefinately if i so choose.

Edit: You are correct that the wall doesnt have an exact timeframe or date. Some women can navigate it much later but some catastrophically hit it early. Its determined by looks and beauty, Life choices (single mothers), attitude and personality (are you a disagreeable person to live with), your financial burden to the man and finally the level of man you actually expect to be in a relationship with.

There is no wall as a woman if you date ugly broke losers. But you need to recognise that the leverage switches in favour of men as we age. Women lose what men desire the most, while at the same time mens horniness diminishes and with it their ability to put up with womens flaws and bullshit.

TheDerInDisorder · 2024-03-07T13:21:09+00:00

I'm not graying. I'm becoming a silverback.

2024-03-07T13:59:28+00:00

Pretending that the relationship between age and male fertility is anything close to what happens to women is pretty disingenuous.

It’s like pointing out women’s hair loss compared to men’s.

And ED? Well, we have a lot of answers to ED and men’s hormones in general now. How else would Vince McMahon look like a body builder and get up to all these “extra activities” in his 70’s?

The sexual asymmetry between how men and women age is just a part of reality, you can’t treat it like a basketball game and try to score points against males to even things out.

External_Pomelo939 · 2024-03-07T16:29:56+00:00

And yet women on here will make fun of men who date older women. They’ll call them post wall women themselves. It’s happened to me. So clearly women think the wall has validity.

2024-03-07T18:47:28+00:00

Nobody is pretending. People shit on bald men, men with ED, constantly. It’s not right. Just like it would be uncool to shit on a fat old mom.

ThrowawayHomesch · 2024-03-07T22:00:49+00:00

Aging for men and women is totally different.

First, it's important to draw a distinction between the actual aging process (meaning whatever changes take place in a person's face that allows you to accurately guess their age), v/s isolated changes in physical traits that are just somewhat correlated with a man's age but not directly linked (obesity, balding, erectile dysfunction, etc.)

All of the issues you listed do for sure make men unattractive, but those things are only loosely correlated with age. More importantly, those issues are fixable. Obesity can be fixed through diet and exercise, and balding can be fixed either through drugs (finasteride, minoxodil, ketoconazole), or a hair transplant. Erectile dysfunction can also be fixed through exercises (pelvic floor), or managed through drugs like Viagra.

You will find that men who do not have these above issues tend to be very attractive to women as long as they were also attractive when younger (for example Henry Cavill or Oscar Issac)

Now when it comes to women and aging, it's the actual aging process that lowers their attractiveness, not some other physical trait that's loosely correlated with aging. By actual aging process, I'm referring to the changes that take place in a person's face (volume loss, changes in bone structure such as receding of the maxilla and widening of the orbits) that allows you to accurately guess their age range. Till today, there is not a single surgical procedure that can make a person look young again. There is no surgery in the world that can make a 35 year old woman look like her 22 year old self. Not even the best plastic surgeons in the world can do this.

Now certain women are blessed with good genetics. They age well and they look quite young for their age even into their 30s. But such women are rare and make up maybe less than 10% of female the population. Women who also have very good craniofacial development to begin with (e.g. Margot Robbie) also tend to age very well because the volume loss that occurs with aging has less of an impact on their overall appearance.

But for the most part, it's that actual perception of aging that makes women unattractive to men as they age, and not any loosely correlated changes in physical traits.

TheHumanDamaged · 2024-03-08T01:14:57+00:00

Yeah no shit, but older men can have more to offer to women than just looks or sexual performance ($$$)

DaveR_77 · 2024-03-08T06:36:38+00:00

Men who take care of themselves can have a nearly 2 decade delay vs women.

50's for men can equal 30's (beginning of real aging) 60's for men can equal 40's (starting to age) 70's for men can equal 50s. (getting old)

Dolly Parton is almost 80 YEARS OLD! And men will have an easier time than women.

RecreationalPorpoise · 2024-03-07T02:38:00+00:00

I went bald by choice and women say it looks great.

And losing value at 60 isn’t quite the same as 30.

Ppdebatesomental · 2024-03-07T02:56:03+00:00

Lulz

Also, at all ages, men are more likely to shart

I was once called the chocolate thunder from down under and I’m not even Aussie

uterine_blackmail · 2024-03-08T03:22:57+00:00

This is a great post.

I swear, I am tired of this rhetoric that men's value goes up as they age. It's a lie. Rich Cooper is one of those older men who most vocally perpetuate that lie.

I am 23 and I have never been attracted to a man older than 30. I can't help it. You know how men love to throw around the word "biology"? Well, it's my biology. I just cannot be attracted to older guys. I am not being mean or shady, I simply do not find them attractive at all. In fact, I am repulsed by older men. And a lot of women my age feel the same way. I know plenty of women in their 20s and they would never consider dating an older guy.

Men age horribly. It doesn't matter if they go to the gym. Nowadays, exercise is sold as some sort of panacea. You can be fit and ugly. You can have a wonky face and a myriad of flaws that no amount of diet and exercise will fix.

If you are ugly at 20, you'll be uglier as you get old. And if you were attractive at 20, you'll get uglier. The money thing is a non-issue. Just because some older men can buy full-time prostitutes, it doesn't mean that these women have genuine attraction towards them.

I feel very offended and even angry when older men hit on me. How dare they? What makes them think I will be attracted to their decrepitude? They are very persistent and I have to be mean. I have had men as old as my dad (45) hitting on me. It makes me furious.

HappyVer · 2024-03-07T02:14:06+00:00

I know you're upset, and I'm sorry the world works this way, but men are just biologically attracted to younger women.

I know you're still in the denial and anger stage, but you will eventually reach acceptance.

I'm sorry and I wish you the best.

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bananadude19 · 2024-03-07T09:07:23+00:00

The currency for men is their wallet. The currency for women is their looks.

Thats the difference.

5800xx · 2024-03-07T04:32:04+00:00

Absolutely none of these things will keep you from meeting someone face to face and stirring up a connection right then and there. However someone’s age and physical appearance can be an instant turn off. Not to mention the fact that you can prevent or fix all of those things with therapy or healthy habits.

Right-Butterfly5036 · 2024-03-07T07:12:23+00:00

Nothing gives me the ick more than a balding man.

abaxeron · 2024-03-07T07:41:42+00:00

We aren't pretending anything; believing that effects of age on dating are the same for men and women would be pretending. Yes, we're all on a timer. No, it's not set to the same duration.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Interactive-effect-of-gender-and-age-2-on-average-log-earnings-per-film_fig1_260061505

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/sex-murder-and-the-meaning-life/201607/link-between-prostitutes-age-and-her-income

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2014/12/04/tying-the-knot-again-chances-are-theres-a-bigger-age-gap-than-the-first-time-around/

https://www.reddit.com/user/abaxeron/comments/117kodp/autism_spectrum_disorder_vs_parental_age/

Statistically you’re going to go bald in your life time-

"Statistically women are going to grow boobs in their lifetime". Yes. Maturation affects all.

Youngrazzy · 2024-03-07T07:54:23+00:00

The thing is most attractive men tend to keep their looks up. And avg to unattractive guys that get women never got women on looks alone.

neinhaltchad · 2024-03-07T07:57:16+00:00

I realize I’m probably an outlier and this is anecdotal but I can say this:

I attracted and fucked more women in their 20’s when I was in my 40’s than I did when I was in my 20’s.

Some men do indeed “glow up” later by kind of growing into their masculinity later in life.

That’s all provided they stay in shape, dress well and become more comfortable in their own skin.

At least it was a combination of those things for me that led to more options later in life.

Hrdbldbbsndrkchclt · 2024-03-07T10:56:54+00:00

Women find most men unattractive anyway so what's it matter, the real age difference is fertility

JollyRoger66689 · 2024-03-07T11:49:54+00:00

Men just age better and really it doesn't matter to most, you go from unattractive to unattractive with money.

And with women being more willing to date older than younger men's options increase.

Women's tastes tend to change somewhat where the "bad boys" don't have as much of an advantage as before, especially when their biological clock be ticking.

Whiskeymyers75 · 2024-03-07T13:37:37+00:00

Many male sex symbols are rocking the bald look. There's a lot of women who find a bald man sexy.

ED is also more related to lifestyle than age. Yes some people have low T, but these men are a minority. Most men with ED can also fuck like they're 18 again with the help of a little pill.

Men, in general, don't age as bad as women, which is why you don't really see middle-aged men with bat wings under their arms and loose skin hanging everywhere. Losing 100 lbs and building muscle over the course of the past couple of years has my body looking pretty sexy in my 40s. When women do this, most need tummy tucks and plastic surgery.

toasterchild · 2024-03-07T22:07:30+00:00

Men get affected by age but they get affected in both directions. Getting older hurts them some but looking young for their age hurts them a lot. The majority of the guys who post links to dating help subreddits look young or innocent for their age and often dress like their mom picked out their clothing. Nothing turns off women more than childlike qualities. So these men who struggle do better once they start aging and think that means that its the same for every guy. It really only applies to the late bloomers.

bob88c · 2024-03-07T03:01:14+00:00

Doesn’t matter, by 34…men become more attractive and women become less…sorry!

tomundrwd · 2024-03-07T05:04:28+00:00

Finasteride, hair transplant and TRT fixes most of these issues.

gopher_glitz · 2024-03-07T05:56:13+00:00

Men grow in wealth which is what women actually want to get.

HumpsyDumpsy · 2024-03-07T07:09:58+00:00

Glad someone said this

dysonRing · 2024-03-07T07:50:03+00:00

Have a full set of hair and statistically I will keep it. Worst case I go all bald which is acceptable.

Erectile dysfunction rigid as ever and worst case there is a pill

Also I froze my sperm already

So you just struck out. Nothing like this compares to menopause.

obviousredflag · 2024-03-07T08:42:52+00:00

even younger men have significantly lower sperm counts than the previous generations-

That has been debunked as counting errors anad non-standardized methods of counting sperm. We are not heading to a sperm count apocalypse. Everything is stable.

Guys age, but our looks make up WAY less of our mating market value than the looks of women. So aging hits women's value harder. Funnily, i watched a documentary about menopause yesterday evening with lots of 50-something women talking about their bodies and their outlook, their mating situation etc. They say they feel invisible, nobody is interested in them, they don't get the looks they want, they are not represented in magazines or fashion, they are treated like second class women by society. Shit is rough, but only because they fall from such a height.

Yeah, men and women degrade over time. But it's harsher on women and it has more impact on their mate value. Women already have more issues and mental health problems for this huge focus on physical attractiveness and youth and how much it's impacting how their life goes. Once they reach the point where everything in their power doesn't make them look 25 anymore, things get rough.

Title	Let’s stop pretending guys don’t age and have just as many unattractive problems later in life
Author	AnonPinkLady
Upvotes	139
Comments	425
Date	March 7, 2024 1:39 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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