Dick sucking n-count

MasterTeacher123 · 2023-01-04T14:56:42+00:00

I never included girls who just sucked me off in my count, but 95% of the women who gave me oral I either slept with before or eventually

It’s kinda rare that a girl will blow you but not eventually fuck you.

Ohms2North · 2023-01-04T14:12:55+00:00

A woman I talked to told me that one night stands don’t count

Confident-Subject-33 · 2023-01-04T21:12:06+00:00

I'm French and always surprised by the way Americans describe "first base, second base, etc" (no judgment btw). I count all pleasurable activities including genitals as sex (my first orgasm was literally during dry humping with my partner). French people also tend to consider oral (both cunni and blowjob) as a very intimate act reserved to lovers or long time sex partner.

social_mule · 2023-01-04T12:51:45+00:00

Women sometimes exclude getting fucked in the ass while on vacation in their n count. Of course they exclude sucking dick.

SmarmyPapsmears · 2023-01-04T13:48:47+00:00

Women will say "I didn't really like him" and say it doesn't count towards her n count 😂

Of course there'd be some who won't add BJs

revente · 2023-01-04T14:40:07+00:00

I just laughed along and didnt dare actually ask my GF about it, but I've got to say I'm concerned about this now

Haha actually I asked her and you shouldn't be concerned mate.

But for your own sake please don't ask her about A2M-n-count.

BridgeBurner22 · 2023-01-04T14:46:53+00:00

The mental gymnastics in this thread are incredible. There is a clear definition for what sex is.

sex :noun (chiefly with reference to people) sexual activity, including specifically sexual intercourse.

Sex is any sexual activity, including sexual intercourse. So, it includes PiV, but also any other sexual activity. Women who aren't counting all the blowjobs, handjobs,... are inventing their own definition of what sex actually is, to present themselves as less sexual experienced than they are.

"Your honor, it wasn't murder. Because my personal definition of murder is shooting someone. And I used a knife to kill him. I should be acquitted".

PuertoRock007 · 2023-01-04T10:36:32+00:00

I remember when I was a teenager me and my friends were only fucking our girlfriends in the ass and doing oral because our girlfriends wanted to save their virginity.

So yeah I think a girl's actual number must be must higher then what she tells herself.

CaptainObvious4000 · 2023-01-04T10:35:48+00:00

Of course they don’t. They don’t include guys you’re unlikely to find out about in their n-count either.

Essentially, women’s n-counts are the greatest pile of lies ever sold to men. The fact any man believes any of them at face value is astounding to me.

Atomic_Thr0away · 2023-01-04T15:48:22+00:00

Although I don't consider it n-count technically... It's more like n-count lite.

If a girl's been with three guys that sucked five dicks I'm not going to be as twisted about it as if it was the other way around.

But in the example above, 36 dicks? Yeah.

There's got to be a point for every man where he's just getting that ick factor. Women seem to really hate that it's like they think that the ick factor is only for themselves.

Ick is a rejection. It's "ewww you're gross and I don't wanna be contaminated". Women absolutely cannot stand that type of rejection.

When looking for a longer term exclusive committed (safe) relationship you have to be leery of the girls with the higher n count, even n count lite. I don't want to be at the bar and find out that there's four other dudes I know in that room that fucked her.

But I also don't want to be at the bar and find out there's four other dudes in that room that she blew.

Men and women that are looking for stable secure relationships need to look for cues that indicate stable, secure, low impulsivity.

hypotenoos · 2023-01-04T14:16:23+00:00

She’s probably fingered a couple buttholes. Think of that next time she hands you a chip.

Teflon08191 · 2023-01-04T18:51:28+00:00

I vote we discontinue the use of "n count" and adopt "head count" for this reason.

wtknight · 2023-01-04T19:44:44+00:00

So would men who do think that oral sex adds to N rather be with an N=10 virgin woman, or an N=2 PIV woman?

This is why I’ve always tried to find out about attitude towards casual sexual encounters rather than an actual N count. Sociosexuality is more important than an actual number for those who care about such things.

FlyV89 · 2023-01-05T02:31:00+00:00

Chill down.

If you told her you sucked just one dick, once, she would have nightmares for the rest of her life.

ohdiddly · 2023-01-04T11:44:15+00:00

I’ve never sucked a dick that I didn’t fuck

but this is so funny that people actually care about this. Ain’t no way you’re mentally torturing yourselves by imagining all the other men while you’re kissing your girlfriend 💀

GridReXX · 2023-01-04T13:15:31+00:00

Do you include sensual tongue-kissing groping make outs as part of “n count”?

You guys have to admit you want a woman who has never had a physically intimate moment of any kind.

No one else is going to neurotic and pedant about this except you. Certainly not the other person. So ask upfront about all of this so you can avoid women with any experiences outside of you.

Seriously. Define “what counts as n count” and have the chicks take your test. Because we don’t know.

Crubbery · 2023-01-04T11:23:54+00:00

My first girlfriend had a list on her phone of the 31 guys she had slept with. I didn't particularly care, but (depending on who you ask as "high n-count" is different for some people) it was a very high number for someone who was 21 years old.

Towards the end of our relationship, I also found out that she too didn't include people she'd not had penis-in-vagina sex with - apparently there was another (smaller) set of men she had sucked off.

I think after you get to a certain point some women will feel embarassed by their n-count and can reduce that number a bit by choosing to ignore non-PiV acts in the total.

SillyMushroomTip · 2023-01-04T12:52:50+00:00

"do women include blowjobs in their n count?"

Women dont give a fuck. Women are never truthful with body count as is lol

there is a grain of truth when they say "if a guy says he slept with x amount of girls divide by 3, for women multiply by 3"

Zombombaby · 2023-01-04T18:38:46+00:00

Yeah, I want my dudes untouched and unsucked. I don't want my dudes dick to look like a herpied wrinkled Slim Jim. Have some respect for yourselves, my dudes.

Hjelmert · 2023-01-04T11:24:38+00:00

Yes i count everything sexual. Hand stuff, oral, and penetration.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2023-01-04T14:03:15+00:00

I think the PPD n count debate has landed on. Any oral to completion counts, PIV counts, butt stuff counts. But hand stuff doesn’t.

Ohyarlysmiles · 2023-01-04T12:21:13+00:00

Who cares?

Boyo, stop giving a shit.

YveisGrey · 2023-01-04T16:50:27+00:00

Generally no but most of the time bjs go with sex so… I guess there are girls giving bjs with no sex but ime that’s not as common. I actually feel like having sex with no oral is more common.

Coolio_Street_Racer · 2023-01-04T22:01:18+00:00

Lol def not included. If they say a low number I usually tAke it with a grain of salt. Better to just watch how she moves and make a conclusion that eat. Tbh most girls don’t even really hide it anymore so it’s not that hard.

ChudBuck · 2023-01-04T22:49:13+00:00

Tbh "just sucking a dick" is worse, especially without any reciprocation.

minachan158 · 2023-01-04T23:13:32+00:00

laughs in virgin

_Galoo · 2023-01-04T11:32:41+00:00

But why does body count matter to you to the point of « concern »?

naivesantonym · 2023-01-04T13:56:49+00:00

If any guy finishes inside any part of you, it counts. I also don't understand why people act like whom someone has sex with doesn't matter. Ladies answer me this, would you knowingly sleep with a guy who slept with your mom? No? Because the history of whom someone has sex with matters.

If someone was squeaky clean after a day or two of no sex something like that wouldn't matter. Same with a best friend or a sister. History of sexual partners or lack thereof matter more than we give it credit for.

2023-01-04T16:58:37+00:00

It's a very VERY strange American phenomenon.

Oral sex is sex, I would argue that it is MORE intimate because it 'invades' more of your senses.

Sharpeye1994 · 2023-01-04T14:51:28+00:00

Tbh you guys. Ive tried to blue pill yall for a while. But tbh its even worse than black pill out here. Not only do women lie and cheat, but their sexual proclivities are even darker and more twisted than you could ever imagine

We are beasts that come from a swirling void of entropy. Your guyses problems with women is that youre too sensitive. End of story

alphasupremacy5555 · 2023-01-04T10:55:50+00:00

No they don't. They also omit the random hook-ups, the one night stands or multiple night stands, the impromptu sexual encounters, gangbangs and threesomes. The only count the relationships and boyfriends they've had.

LupeDyCazari · 2023-01-04T11:36:11+00:00

Women only count dick-in-pussy as actual sex, bro.

All the make-out sessions, all the anal, all the blowjobs and handjobs and tityfucks, are not considered to be real sex by women, so women don't consider the men they have done those things with as another number to add to their N-Count.

Thus I'd say the average woman in the west has been with 50 to 100 dudes before she gets married in her 30s, and that number is going to increase when she gets a divorce and goes back to sucking 25 year old cocka.

Eh, you should see the mental gymnastics Christian and Catholic women go through to convince themselves that they are still virgins.

Shit, dude, I bet JC himself when he was banging Mary Magdelene came up with some funky shit to convince himself he was still a virgin.

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throwawaypasaspike · 2023-01-04T14:33:02+00:00

Personally, no.

Anyone I've ever done that with I've slept with them also. I was unaware of this being a thing lol.

I wouldn't ask my partner how many people he's been down on and only have a rough idea of how many people he's slept with - it's better that way.

bodaciousbonsai · 2023-01-04T16:25:50+00:00

When to call it sex 101:

If your girlfriend/wife pointed at another woman and asked if you had sex with her, would you say yes or no if it was only oral and would she be mad if you said no, and later found out she gave you head.

OpeningInner483 · 2023-01-04T16:45:43+00:00

In a row?

Normies in general dont consider BJs sex, except when they want to know their girl's body count.

So girls wont count it unless you ask them to

SoldierExcelsior · 2023-01-04T17:34:41+00:00

Never ask a woman her Ncount A)they will lie and B) you can't handle the truth

KamuiObito · 2023-01-04T19:34:14+00:00

Yes most of the time..I did know a women who didn’t count Anal tho cuz she didn’t like it..

Nago31 · 2023-01-04T20:58:09+00:00

My wife’s n count doesn’t include “give a little, get a little.” Whatever that means.

Relative_Bee8356 · 2023-01-04T22:34:27+00:00

I have no idea of the exact numbers but they're pretty much the same. I'm having a hard time thinking of anyone I did one but not the other with. I don't think of oral as being any less intimate than intercourse so I guess I'd count it but it's not really relevant.

I'm not ashamed of my sexual history and I have no interest in dating men who would take issue with it so I don't really have a reason to lie or minimize it. If anything I err on the side of being too honest so I can scare off the weaklings.

BigBigJimBoy · 2023-01-05T01:00:18+00:00

The answers in this thread just made me go MGTOW.

Regular-Loser-569 · 2023-01-04T10:36:36+00:00

if you go down on your girlfriend you're gonna taste all these guys anyway.

januaryphilosopher · 2023-01-04T11:30:11+00:00

Depends on the woman. I'd imagine for most women the number for oral is lower or no different than the number for PIV (as in they were the same men), so it's nothing to be particularly concerned about if it concerns you.

Katatonicsnake · 2023-01-04T13:22:36+00:00

I absolutely count them, more so than piv. When I start having sex, I decided that I would only give bjs when I knew I wanted to commit.

ManWazo · 2023-01-04T13:39:05+00:00

didnt dare actually ask my GF about it Lol you can't even have an honest conversation with your girlfriend? Why would you rather live your life whole "concerned" instead of asking a question?

N_Count_Council · 2023-01-04T15:26:27+00:00

Any penetration counts towards N count, including penis in mouth.

As decreed by the N Count Council. Thank you and have a good day.

CruelAngelGradThesis · 2023-01-04T11:24:22+00:00

Lol counts double in my eyes

nunchuckbitch27 · 2023-01-04T14:05:11+00:00

I’ve never counted blow jobs as sex or included that in my body count I also never thought about anal because I don’t do it but if I did I would definitely add that to my body count but I would always talk about these things with my partner before we had sex I made sure he knew my complete and honest sexual history before I never saw any reason to lie about it ever I don’t believe in lying to someone you are potentially going to get into a serious relationship with especially not that but in turn I expect the same thing from my partner I wouldn’t have sex with him if he didn’t give me a complete sexual history as well

NationalistGoy · 2023-01-04T15:42:52+00:00

Quoting /u/cocobabenyc here.

You know how women keep their body count low? Oh, I only had oral sex wjth this guy, so he doesn't count. This guy was a one night stand so he doesn't count. I had a threesome with these two guys so that doesn't count. So yeah, I've only been with 5 men in my life (who I dated officially for more than 3 months, hihihhi).

bootyhunter69420 · 2023-01-04T16:09:43+00:00

Oral sex is sex and adds to the number

AngelxEyez · 2023-01-04T17:34:10+00:00

Oral doest count toward ncount, but very few dudes will get a blow job from a girl they dont also have sex with.

Anal (which I dont do) would obviously count though.

Never been asked my ncount and noone in my coed group of friends has hangups on such things. We are all regular, well adjusted, social people.

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2023-01-04T11:21:05+00:00

To me mine is people I had sex with, just a blow job doesn’t count 🤷‍♀️

obviousredflag · 2023-01-04T12:28:40+00:00

Why would you include only oral sex in the n-count for heterosexuals? Next thing you include touching boobs and then kissing? Is this the era of high n-count virgins?

haroldshipman_MD · 2023-01-04T12:52:16+00:00

Are we supposed to be counting blowjobs??? What about handjobs? Jesus, this is news to me.

Exotic-One3381 · 2023-01-04T12:24:06+00:00

Of course it does not count. No one counts it. Do you could the number of times someone has done thst to you in your n count?

friskygrandma · 2023-01-04T13:34:56+00:00

Who gives a shit about her body count. A person who has sucked 37 dicks is not somehow tainted.

Mrs_Drgree · 2023-01-04T10:37:51+00:00

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BleedingAssWound · 2023-01-04T15:52:37+00:00

Dump her, she got semen breath bro.

Top_Opportunity_6429 · 2023-01-04T18:26:41+00:00

That is why men prefer virgins. Nobody wants a town bicycle. Notice, ppd women!

Green-Quantity1032 · 2023-01-05T00:58:05+00:00

They definitely do NOT include BJs, nor would I ever ask a girl I'm seriously interested in about her bj-count.

I just assume it's 3-10x the n-count, which I don't believe anyway if she doesn't say something like 10+.

ProfessorFelix0812 · 2023-01-04T16:01:13+00:00

She blew the 82nd Airborne. Why do you care? If she did, you’ll never find out about it.

The obsession with “n-count” in this sub is so juvenile.

ConfusedPuddle · 2023-01-04T13:34:50+00:00

Lmao why do you care

pearllovespink · 2023-01-04T15:20:30+00:00

I don’t count it. It doesn’t count. And it never will.

AstronautLoveShack · 2023-01-04T16:23:37+00:00

I don't blow men I'm not already sleeping with. For some reason I am more squeamish about what goes in my mouth than what goes in my hoo-ha.

Diamond-Breath · 2023-01-04T18:16:05+00:00

If you think about it, it's only gross if many men actually came in her raw. What if she slept with one man but always using condoms? How would guys feel about that one? Not technically a virgin but you were the first one to cum inside her?

yoganurse21 · 2023-01-04T19:42:02+00:00

The only guys who care about body counts are insecure because they have nothing to offer

RocinanteCoffee · 2023-01-04T20:19:54+00:00

A lot of people in this subreddit don't count many sexual acts as n-count.

For instance they don't count women who are with other women or women who have sex with disabled people. They only count PIV with cis men.

Flightlessbirbz · 2023-01-04T22:34:30+00:00

I would say it counts, but everyone is different on what they “count.” Some may say “hand stuff” counts too, while others would say that’s ridiculous, etc. etc. There is no standard definition for any of this stuff. Which is just one more reason why being excessively hung up about this body count stuff is ultimately silly and juvenile. “Omg Becky, Sally says she’s, like, totally a virgin and stuff, but I heard she gave blowjobs to the wholeeee football team, what a skank!”

For those of us who are out of high school, it’s more reasonable to focus on general compatibility of values (are you monogamous? do you want to be exclusive?) than to obsess over numbers you’ll ultimately never know.

MC-Purp · 2023-01-05T03:14:04+00:00

It’s been my experience, that most women who have sex with a guy with a condom, then suck a random dudes dick

AngelCrumb · 2023-01-05T03:52:46+00:00

I guess this depends on if you consider foreplay to be sex, personally for me, if there’s no orgasm or penetration on either side I don’t think it counts. People fool around a lot, even mens counts would be higher if we count any type of sexual contact as sex.

EugeneCezanne · 2023-01-05T04:52:42+00:00

Wait... are you saying you could oral in your n count? I'm a guy and wouldn't think to do that unless specified.

But yeah, talk to your actual girlfriend, not us. By the way, the moral of Clerks was basically don't be like this guy. Starting drama over his girlfriend's sexual history poisoned the well of the only good thing he really had going.

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