Pretty much the title.
Being a genuinely nice person doesn't get you any further than being "nice" with strings attached does, and I think people actually hate on the latter openly simply because of the covert contract. People don't like or want to feel bamboozled. What they like and want is free stuff that is without the fine print and tiny strings.
To provide an anecdotal example, I consider myself a genuinely nice person. I help people out because I would want someone to do the same in that position. I understand how they might feel. I hold doors for people. I randomly buy or pay for stranger's bills at restaurants or if they're having a problem with their card in the checkout line at the store. I never expect or want anything in return either. The common thread here is that whether someone is genuinely nice or nice with the expectation that they'll be repaid in some way, both parties usually get little more than a "Thanks, that was so nice of you" in return.
That has been my experience. Whether you're genuinely nice or fake nice, it gets you nowhere. There seems to be this underlying assumption that genuine niceness is rewarded in some type of meritocratic or moralistic way, but it isn't, because people usually can't tell the difference until the fake nice person comes to collect their dues, and they don't really care about either one unless they find them attractive enough to want to reciprocate.
I'd even go further and say that if it doesn't benefit men at all to be "nice" to, and help out random women and other strangers, then they don't have to, even if there's this social expectation to be (or just appear) nice to others.
Edit: For anyone who needs clarity about what the post is saying, its that genuinely noice guys and fake noice guys usually end up in the same boat at the end, and thats because niceness isn't very high up on women's priorities list. It's just a pleasant thing to have that makes women feel safer being around someone, which is construed as attractive or desirable to them. It's not the niceness in itself that is attractive.
Edit 2: "If you're doing nice things for rewards, then you're probably not that nice at all" isn't a response to the post. Commenting about me and what you think I personally do or don't do is not a response to the post. Projecting whatever you think you're reading onto the post and then responding to that is not a response to the post. Jeezus.
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