Judge Judy Gets It | MensRights

You come onto reddit and bitch about judge judy with no context. Then you provide context. Yet all of it is along the lines of, "SHES A MAN HATING BITCH" "I CALLED HER A MAN HATING BITCH AND SHE DIDNT CAVE IN TO MY WANTS"

Like fuck dude. Think about how you acted in court. Yes there was a bias against you. But you literally got so pissed in court you called the judge and lawyers out.

Do you think thats acceptable behavior? Do you really think the only reason you lost was because they hate men? Could it have anything to do with them being trained to analyze people. And those who are emotionally unstable EG calling the judge a bitch shouldn't have custody?

If you can't see the role you played in your demise. The fact you played into and confirmed their bias that some men are emotionally unstable and unfit to be parts, further feeding the anti man bias?

Then you've got some much bigger problems...

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Have someone take your kid from you because mommy suddenly stopped drinking and demanded her back, after years of a child becoming bonded to her non drinking, non drug using dad. ''The child should naturally be with the mother'' after she abandoned her, as I gave her a wonderful TV free first few years of great parenting. Then she got forced into her mom's alcohol and cocaine hellhole nightmare. I watched my child suffer and change. Fuck Judge Judy. She should get cancer. Maybe this can happen to you and your daughter, anb then maybe we can talk about anger and openly wishing cancer on Judge Cunt Judy.
I've seen movies where people murder the kidnappers of children in all sorts of ways. I'm just wishing cancer on her. I think I'm being quite nice to the child abusing bitch.
She's a cunt, and fuck anyone approving of anything she says for $$$ and ignoring what she DID to people, by the thousands. Evil personified.
No one here but me is a witness to her real life actions.

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Judge Judy spent over 20 years in New York City’s family court system. Throughout her tenure, she earned a reputation for being blunt, impatient, and tough-talking. “I can’t stand stupid, and I can’t stand slow.”
impatient.
''A swift decision-maker with no tolerance for lame excuses'' http://www.aafny.org/pdf/development/jj-sheindlinbio.pdf
http://www.aafny.org/pdf/development/jj-sheindlinbio.pdf
You all only get to see how she acts on camera, not prosecuting juveniles in Manhattan or denying fathers' rights in Carmel.
She talks, for money, and this sub has now flushed itself down the drain by worshipping her PR bullshit, written by a team of scriptwriters, for money.
http://www.nopactalent.com/speaker/judge-judy.php
No man or juvenile who ever stood in fron of her in a court would say one nice thing about her.

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Lol. And the teapot calls the kettle black.

I tried to be nice to her, and state my and my daughter's case. She got more excessively nasty than before. I finally snapped, after an hour, and told her, and every other lawyer in the room what I thought of them. I individually called them man hating bitch, one by one.

That's not how court works. You don't get to become emotionally unstable infront of the judge and call everyone names, AND get custody of your daughter.

She doesn't hate all men, she hates YOU. And if you were in my court room with your bullshit excuses about custody and your general demeanor which reeks bitter woman hating man, I'd dislike you too. You are lucky she didn't charge you with contempt of court.

You take your medicine and you shut the fuck up. You follow your custody plan and you collect evidence that will help. And then you refile for joint custody.

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Hi. Whoa a nice person in this thread of trash. Hello.
My daughter and I have the best relationship I could ever hope for, thanks. She makes great money, enjoys her job and life, and thanks me for it, all the time, and makes a point of telling me she does not thank her mom the way she does me.
Her mom is still a Jerry Garcia worshipping alcoholic pill gobbler, and I am a terrific, cultured person who is known as very funny and well read when you don't take my kids from me and cause me to wish cancer on you. That makes me hate someone... you know... fucking with my lovely daughter? That brings out a permanent grudge kind of thing when someone fucks with your kid. Judge Judy fucked with my kid. I hope she gets cancer, once again, for cancer wishing clarity.
It's a simple train of logic, to me. Mess with someone's kid: get cancer wished upon you.
She's the worst person I ever met, who directly did bad things to me and my kid. People here don't seem to get that part.
Imagine a juvenile detention facility in 1984 in Manhattan? shudder
Imagine how many mentally ill, abused children were further abused under her ''care''?

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The problem with men's rights is that it's another limited (i.e., misguided & erroneous) sphere of consciousness--and untruth.

Men's rights is another flavor of "my rights". As a human species, we need to evolve beyond 'his', 'her', 'their' rights, and return to the inherent Birth Rights granted to us by Natural Law.

We are in the midst of the New Dark Age, but I believe the planet is slowly waking up to rediscovering Natural Law.

In the mean time, we have to keep trying to enlighten the laggards and the unbegun, which is why I visit these forums.

Unfortunately, I was just banned from r/twoxchromosomes, but I was surprised it took them that long to ban me, lol!

Anyway, here's to the Truth--Let it shine upon everyone, so that Humanity may return to its rightful home in the Garden of Eden.

God bless you and your family

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There was a divorce lawyer on /r/bestof/ a few weeks back talking about this... his argument was that its actually a bit of a myth that courts grant women custody most of the time. What typically happens (90%) is that both parents agree before it gets to court what the custody arrangement will be, and the courts usually spend their time banging out financial stuff.

In the situation where custody is contested, its like Judge Judy says: its 50/50 who deserves custody. If a man can present evidence that the woman is unfit, he has a good chance of winning custody.

The problem is that the older judges (typically conservative men) think its woman's work to raise kids, and side with the mom more often than they should. The younger judges (women and moderate men) consider raising kids to be a mutual responsibility, and are much more likely to believe the father that the mother is unfit.

Counterintuitively, it looks like you're better off with a young female judge than an older male judge if you want custody of your kids...

EDIT: found it!

https://np.reddit.com/r/MensLib/comments/67xa50/why_does_custody_leave_favor_women_is_it_because/dgu35xq/

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She's got her good qualities, but she's also got some bad ones. Her commentary about money has often been a bad point for me.

Another thing I never liked about her is how harsh she can be with the unemployed. She always seems heavily biased against people without a job or with small time jobs (even remember one story where she seemed hostile towards a guy who was a welder and implied he probably doesn't make enough, when wtf welders actually earn quite well), and I've always been disgusted by that mindset. Seems lacking in empathy for those that may truly be going through a rough patch (not doubting she's seen plenty of deadbeats though, just saying don't judge by job alone), plus I know my dad is so obsessed with the job title he has that he'd willingly screw over his own child or his own brother if it meant advancing his social status. (yes he did both lol)

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As a judge, you have to develop that disposition. It's not rude or disrespectful, it's her knowing through years of practising law that you can't get the facts of a case if you just let people go on with their story. Nor can you waste the time of the court letting someone drone on and on about unrelated topics.

To keep the story straight and judge the case properly, you need answers to questions. Not a story, not some unrelated bullshit, not an opinion. Judge asks specific question, judge requires specific answer.

On top of that you have to maintain an atmosphere of respect towards yourself as the judge so that people don't try to pull one over on you.

And lastly you WANT to put pressure on the people there, especially if you suspect someone is lying. Most people are bad at lying, and when put under strict pressure and questioning their story will start to break down and they will show signs of nervousness.

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Up until the mother doesn't want to do that custody arrangement, and voila, mother has sole custody. Joint custody happens in 97% of the cases of married couples, but it's also 94% of the cases in the US, or 88% for unmarried couples in Sweden, and I can't find the statistics for the same in the US. So the vast majority of the cases, the parents are adult enough to actually be able to work together for the best of the children, regardless if it's Sweden or the US, though Sweden is somewhat better it seems at making joint custody work. But looking at just the cases where they for whatever reason can't do that, the outlook is grim indeed, because it's less than half a percent where the father has sole custody... less than HALF A FUCKING PERCENT, where in the US, it's about 4%. So US is, as abysmally bad as it is, still actually more fair on who gets sole custody, than Sweden is.

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No, they want to care for the kids in joint custody. Men here do 50% of the parenting when parents are together, why would that change if they were apart? People don't move around here much for jobs so divorced couples are likely to be living in the same city close or each other.

Right. And those cases make up for 97% of married couples, or 88% of unmarried couples, out of the whole, as I pointed out already... Of the 3%, and 12% remaining, STILL, only less than half a percent of fathers have sole custody. The rest, are exclusive the mother... That's still AT BEST, more than 6 to 1 discrepancy... If looking at only the best case comparison there. Well SCB don't actually have more precise statistic than "less than half a percent", so for best, we're assuming that less than half a percent, means 0.49%. And we're restricting it to just the married couples specifically because they manage to cooperate better. If looking at best case for unmarried couples, it's at BEST a 24 to 1 discrepancy... You're a total loonie if you actually believe, than 23 out of 24 fathers, don't want to care for their own children... And that is a BEST CASE... And we can't even calculate a worst case because they don't measure more precise than full integer percentages...

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I'm simply postulating other potential reasons for this data other than 'judges are biased towards men' because as a resident here I think that notion is complete bullshit. The culture here is 3000% more supportive of men taking care of kids than the USA. Look up 'pappaledighet'

That's just pure BS. I'm sorry but it is. Sweden is very supportive of fathers taking care of kids... AS LONG AS that father is accompanied by a mother. If you're by yourself, you're considered to be the scum of the earth...

Sorry for using the term 'divorce' when I actually meant 'dissolution of legal partnerships'.

Still not what we're talking about... The discussion is about custody, not divorce or dissolution of legal partnerships. Custody, nothing else.

In Sweden if you live together you are considered married by law and must register your separation if you chose to do so including child custody.

Not true. You only have to register who takes the kids. You don't have to register your dissolution. Especially considering you don't even have to register your partnership in the first place either.

Oh hey look another reason why the data might not be 'judges are biased towards men'.

Err... What? You have presented nothing that explains the 1 to 24 discrepancy or the 1 to 6.

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You need supporting evidence for the 'scum of the earth'

What part of the ONE TO FUCKING TWENTY FOUR AT BEST is it you do not understand? Are you seriously THAT fucking bad at first grade math?

and the lack of need to dissolve a civil partnership.

Now you're mixing up the words there. A civil partnership is a specific meaning from what you used earlier. A civil partnership, is a registered partnership and that does indeed need to be filed that it has ended. You previously claimed it was needed for "divorce or dissolution of legal partnerships", for which it is NOT true, and I pointed out why, because they don't need to be registered in the first place so there's not necessarily anything to unregister. I'm in a legal partnership with my wife, and I also happen to be married to her. But those are two completely separate things. A legal partnership, just means that it's two consenting adults in some form of relationship, and applies from when you start dating... Do you think you need to register something if you decide to not go on that second date with someone you just met?

I did offer a potential reason for the discrepancy. You rejected both of them with 'you are a looney' and 'you area racist'.

Yep. You're definitely a lunatic if you ACTUALLY believe that 23 out of 24 fathers don't want to take care of their kids... That's just the facts. You can disagree all you want, but you and I both know that it's just not true... As for your muslim comment that conservative muslims don't want their kids, well now you're still adding the above and we're still on that you're still claiming that 23 out of 24 fathers don't want to care for their own kid and we both know that's just plain absurd, but you're also attaching that to being about muslims, which makes you a racist as well. So yep, as long as you hold those two beliefs, you are indeed a racist and a lunatic.

Why are you so angry. Maybe provide a hit of backstory?

Why do you interpret any sort of disagreement as anyone being angry? That actually tells a lot about you that you think that...

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Nope, you need to provide evidence that what you are suggesting is the problem actually is the problem. This is what reasonable discussion is, not swearing and all-capping people who question whether your assumption is correct.

No. The first thing we have to establish is that you understand WHAT the problem is... THEN we can go on to look at WHY that problem is. You have yet to even acknowledge that there IS a problem, let alone WHAT that problem is...

Find me evidence that your interpretation of the data (that the men who aren't getting sole custody in Sweden are finding themselves in that situation because judges consider them the 'scum of the earth', rather than because men are choosing not to take custody by choice) is correct.

That's simply not what I said... You fail first grade reading comprehension...

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Yep... Definitely going to call a lunatic a lunatic. And again there is no evidence that can be presented to show that that is a problem. You're doing the equivalent of requesting evidence that paying only 4 cent to one person, and a dollar to someone else, for the same work is a problem (no not a reference to the wage gap stuff)... Once you've accepted that a 1 to 24 difference IS a problem, we can begin discussing evidence for the what and why of it, but that cannot even begin until you understand that there even is a problem with that situation. And the inherent problem of a 1 to 24 difference is something even 3 year olds understand and if you don't believe me, try giving a pair of 3 year old twins ice cream. 1 scoop to one of them, 24 scoops to another and look at their reactions. And someone claiming to be a grown up, that cannot understand that same thing, means your mental ability is less than that of a three year old, for at the very least, that specific area of understanding...

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You find out in what proportion of the instances where women take sole custody in Sweden the father contested it, it went to court and despite the father's protestations the judge found in favor of sole custody for the mother. This is your 'scum of the earth' hypothesis.

So you're claiming that a 1 to 24 is only a problem, if it's contested... How do you then know that fathers are neglecting to contest based on the futility? And even if that was the case,, you don't find it to be a problem then that 23 out of 24 fathers are not disputing sole custody to the mother? See this is why you're a raving lunatic... Because your argument really does boil down to a claim that 23 out of 24 fathers don't actually want to care for their child... And that's completely and utterly ABSURD.

Your analogies are not good. Ice cream and money are things that people like and have basically no downside to taking. Taking care of kids is fucking hard work, often not rewarding at all and not everyone wants to do it. Men chose not to be around a lot more than people chose not to collect wages or eat free ice cream.

BULLSHIT. Total and utter BULLSHIT. I also wasn't comparing kids to ice cream... You failed first grade reading comprehension... again... You're not exactly making a good case for yourself that you really do have a mental ability beyond that of a 2 year old...

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So you're claiming that a 1 to 24 is only a problem, if it's contested... Nope, you are claiming this data can be extrapolated to mean that 'Sweden' considers men who want to parent alone 'the scum of the earth'. I'm yet to see any evidence for that.

How do you then know that fathers are neglecting to contest based on the futility?

Because the culture here is very supportive of fathers rearing children. As you will know from your extensive research into Swedish parenting culture, fathers are encouraged by the state from from taking sole parenting responsibility while the mother works in the pappaledighet system.

you don't find it to be a problem then that 23 out of 24 fathers are not disputing sole custody to the mother?

Why do you assume that legal custody status infers who is actually doing child care? Maybe these fathers don't care about the legal status, they are unmarried (so the mother automatically gets custody), they separate, he takes care of the kid 50/50 but never bothers to take legal custody because it doesn't matter?

To me the definition of lunacy might be someone that looks at this data and infers that 'Sweden' considers sole parenting fathers 'the scum of the earth'.

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Because the culture here is very supportive of fathers rearing children. As you will know from your extensive research into Swedish parenting culture, fathers are encouraged by the state from from taking sole parenting responsibility while the mother works in the pappaledighet system.

And again you're on the next step already... You have not even acknowledged the first step and until you do, there can be no discussion about the next step. I'm well aware of how "pappaledighet" works, and I'm sorry but it's simply not relevant to the discussion.

Why do you assume that legal custody status infers who is actually doing child care?

Because when filing for custody, you SWEAR UNDER OATH, that they are the one caring for the child. In a sole custody case, there is 1 and ONLY 1 caretaker for the child. At best, a father in such a case has visitation rights, but in no way are they allowed to care for the child... Heck they're not even legally freely able to friggin put clothes on the child because that's then an external gift with all the tax implications that are involved in that.

Maybe these fathers don't care about the legal status, they are unmarried (so the mother automatically gets custody), they separate, he takes care of the kid 50/50 but never bothers to take legal custody because it doesn't matter?

Ah yes, because fraud involving who the caretaker of your child is such a reasonable explanation. Do you understand that both parents WOULD GO TO JAIL FOR THAT? No parent in their right mind would ever even consider that even remotely to be an option. And no, the mother does not automatically get custody if they are unmarried. You haven't even got the basics of custody right... If they are unmarried, then mother is at birth, ASKED if she wants to register someone as the father or not. If she declines, she can at any point do so. If they separate prior to any such registration, then, and ONLY THEN, does she have sole custody as a default. Not automatic, just default. If they break up now, and he still has 50% of the custody, but she still has not registered him as a father, nor register that he has shared custody... That's legally what's known as fraud against the state, and has a minimum of 3 month in jail. In your example, the neglect of the filing isn't malicious, so at least your children won't be taken from you, but they will be living with relatives during your stay behind bars... Just don't do that. While chances of being found out are relatively low, no sane parent is going to take the risks of that, and no sane parent isn't going to actually not even going to read up on that this is what they have to do... That you claim to have gone through this, and not know about it... just confirms that you are indeed a lunatic.

To me the definition of lunacy might be someone that looks at this data and infers that 'Sweden' considers sole parenting fathers 'the scum of the earth'.

I didn't say that Sweden as a country does... Read again.

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Why would feminists want the guys to have an easy life with no childcare?

I'd explain it to you, but why not just read their own opinion on the matter.

National Organization for Women

NOW ACTION ALERT ON "FATHERS' RIGHTS"

WHEREAS organizations advocating "fathers' rights," whose members consist of non-custodial parents, their attorneys and their allies, are a growing force in our country; and

WHEREAS the objectives of these groups are to increase restrictions and limits on custodial parents' rights and to decrease child support obligations of non-custodial parents by using the abuse of power in order to control in the same fashion as do batterers; and

WHEREAS these groups are fulfilling their objectives by forming political alliances with conservative Republican legislators and others and by working for the adoption of legislation such as presumption of joint custody, penalties for "false reporting" of domestic and child abuse and mediation instead of court hearings; and

WHEREAS the success of these groups will be harmful to all women but especially harmful to battered and abused women and children; and

WHEREAS the efforts of well-financed "fathers' rights" groups are expanding from a few states into many more, sharing research and tactics state by state; and

WHEREAS many judges and attorneys are still biased against women and fathers are awarded custody 70% of the time when they seek it per the Association of Child Enforcement Support (ACES);

THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED that the National Organization for Women (NOW) begin a national alert to inform members about these "fathers' rights" groups and their objectives through articles in the National Now Times (NNT); and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that, as a part of this alert, NOW establish a clearinghouse for related information by sharing with NOW state and local Chapters the available means to challenge such groups, including the current research on custody and support, sample legislation, expert witnesses, and work done by NOW and other groups in states where "fathers' rights" groups have been active; and

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that NOW encourage state and local Chapters to conduct and coordinate divorce/custody court watch projects to facilitate removal of biased judges; and

BE IT FINALLY RESOLVED, that NOW report to the 1997 National Conference on the status and result of this national alert whereupon its continuation or expansion will be considered.

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What specifically are they referring to here? I see no mention of fathers or granting fathers custody, I see non-gendered language about any parent who has custody.

They are referring to the fact that granting shared custody to two parents puts restrictions and limits on the mother's rights. If you take 100% and make that 50%, then that is restricted and limited.

This is not relevant to the discussion.

and how is that not relevant to the discussion? Sharing custody reduces the child support paid to the mother. That's not acceptable and is harmful to women.

Find me a section or other quote where a feminist group says they prefer the mother to take care of kids and the men to work

Since no one has made that claim anywhere, why would I do that?

The claim is that feminists are fighting against equality in custody. Nothing more, nothing less.

I have presented you with evidence they are fighting against equality in custody. You don't seem to care, as long as you, like them, can find a way to justify it.

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Le'ts look at the text by itself.

WHEREAS organizations advocating "fathers' rights," whose members consist of non-custodial parents, their attorneys and their allies, are a growing force in our country; and

The father's rights groups are the non-custodial parents. Right there in the text itself (had you read it... you wouldn't have had to have it pointed out).

WHEREAS the objectives of these groups are to increase restrictions and limits on custodial parents' rights and to decrease child support obligations of non-custodial parents by using the abuse of power in order to control in the same fashion as do batterers; and

WHEREAS the success of these groups will be harmful to all women but especially harmful to battered and abused women and children; and

The detriment of these actions will be harmful to women (i.e. the custodial parents).

But, I get that you're trolling at this point. So, there's your evidence. Deny it if you want. That's fine. That's what we've come to accept from feminists.

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She was my family court judge, trumpeted her male hatred, and fucked over hundreds of dads like me.
If Kissinger says he's for world peace, does everyone applaud?
She is an evil cunt and I hope very bad painful ailments wrack her life.
Hundreds of single dads fucked over by her agree.
And then she said some lies on TV and you all applaud.
My least favorite thing about this sub is the Judge Judy worship. She is literally the worst enemy to men's rights here, and thousands upvote her blah blah. Her actions were abhorrent and pure evil, ramped up to medusa meets triple headed satan. Her words are nothing compared to the torture she doled out personally, yelling in MY face, directly, from 10 feet away, fucking me over about time with my daughter.
I cannot imagine hating anyone more than the cunt who sided with my kid'sdrunken mom, no matter what.
Fuck judge judy in the ass with barbed wire wrapped red hot pokers.
Judge judy is an evil evil cunt. Nothing more.
''But she said something on TV, to boost her ratings, and look good, like her PR manager told her to.'' does not negate the fact that she revelled in torture, dancing merrily on the stomped hearts of children and fathers.
She is a sadistic torture expert, out to hurt others for fun, grinning maniacly as she applies the screws.
MY memories are real. The rest of you watched a TV show for reference.
I know her personally, was personally tortured by her, she weilded evil lording power over my innocent child, directly and personally, and I have called her a man hating bitch, right out in court.
''Oh my but the TV made her look good, cuz she said things <gasp>''
Fuck her.
Anyone who keeps supporting her lies is not my friend at all.

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I don't give a shit about your evil scolding about things you literally know nothing about. You know her from your TV worship.
''''Day after day in my courtroom, I saw what happened to women who didn't use their heads,'' she said. In a recent interview in the law offices of Adam B. Levy along with Gregory Sheindlin and Richard L. Maher here, she said: ''I worry about women who defer to men to the point of losing sight of who they are. There is a learned helplessness on the part of husbands and children, so you do everything yourself. Eventually, unless you're Mother Theresa, you're going to explode.''''
''''A woman has to really evaluate before she comes to a boiling point how willing she is to defer in the home in order to keep peace,'' she said. Speaking of the woman who watches sports with her husband even if she is not interested just because he wants her company, she said: ''She's an idiot. Period. I wouldn't sit with my husband while he's watching boxing or football. I'm not a puppy.'' ''
http://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/11/nyregion/to-judge-judy-standing-tall-equals-respect.html
What a cunt. I know her, so I know.
4 year old EVIDENCE:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/zwk1b/judge_judy_was_my_family_court_judge_ama/
You have never met her and know nothing about her.
''Judy Sheindlin’s rise to fame began with a long profile written about her in the LA Times. In the article, reporter Josh Gelin introduced the world to the character now beloved by millions of fans of Judge Judy.

Gelin described Sheindlin as a “tart, tough talking judge” who told him, “I can't stand stupid, and I can't stand slow.” Judge Sheindlin took over the questioning of witnesses when lawyers proceeded too slowly and bullied lawyers so much that one report noted that “attorneys beg her to simply listen to them.”

The only pauses in Sheindlin’s courtroom came when she told jokes, sounding “more like a stand-up comic than a judge.”

The butt of those jokes were often litigants who Sheindlin felt wasted her time or made excuses—a phenomenon captured by Gelin in this memorable exchange: .... Sheindlin has said that she always worried the press would describe her as a monster during her tenure as a judge. ''
https://priceonomics.com/the-hypocrisy-of-judge-judy/
I openly describe her as a monster.
No one could possibly describe NYC juvenile offenders being treated fairly at all in the 60s. She was in charge of that torture scheme of horror.
''The people who come into my office and the offices of other family law practitioners are often facing the most traumatic event or at least one of the most traumatic they have ever experienced. Most have never been in a courtroom before. They are uncertain of the future and where this chapter of their lives when closed, will land them. Do they deserve a Judge Judy? Do they deserve to have their dignity torn away? Even where a spouse engages in contemptuous action, does debasement do justice in place of clear, unequivocal sanction administered by a judge who commands respect through intellect and strength of judicial purpose? I think not. ''
http://blogs.lawyers.com/attorney/family-law/injustice-for-all-the-ongoing-offensiveness-of-judge-judyism-4258/
This whole thread is TV zombie brainwash lies, except for me talking about this cunt, who I know personally, and have been personally tortured by.
Now you go back to fapping to TV stars.

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You worship a lying TV goddess, who has destroyed the lives of many children.
Shall I list juvenile detention details from her reign of terror?
Shall we have a look at who she really is, outside of PR teams planning ways to get her higher ratings?
''Judge Judy Booking Agent Information

Contact Celebrity Talent Promotions now at 1-888-752-3532 to book Judge Judy for a guest appearance, motivational keynote speech, grand opening, autograph signing, product announcement, employee gathering, endorsement or speaking engagement....''
http://www.celebritytalentpromotions.com/speaker/judge-judy.php
With a team of script writer$$$$$$. 6 digits of $$$$$$ per engagement, I'm sure.
If you are unaware of custody and visitation disparities in the 80s and 90s in NY, I am starting to wonder what subreddit I am in.
http://www.backlash.com/content/gender/1995/1-jan95/page14a.html
Scroll to read what this high level attorney has to say about the 90s in NY.
http://www.fathersrightsnys.com/About_Us.aspx
The Yale Law Journal
Foundling Fathers: (Non-)Marriage and Parental Rights in the Age of Equality
Scroll a little more than halfway down this amazing paper to...
IV. avoiding equality: feminism and fatherhood in the supreme court, 1980-89
http://www.yalelawjournal.org/article/foundling-fathers
That's the best history of fathers' rights ever put together, bar none.
They say it was a literal nightmare for men in the 80s at the Yale Law Journal, written by lawyers. But it's all anecdotal and impossible to believe that cunt judge judy was in on the game. Ok right.
''Conclusion

The unwed fathers cases receive little attention from constitutional scholars, and they are often relegated to a footnote in the history of sex equality law despite a significant (albeit small) body of feminist scholarship that critically engages them. In part, this neglect reflects how the Court framed these cases as questions of due process, rather than equal protection, and as contests between nonmarital fathers and prospective stepfathers, rather than as questions of sex and marital status equality vis-à-vis mothers and divorced fathers.

Integrating the unwed fathers cases into the larger history of equality jurisprudence helps to illuminate the nature of the law’s limitations. Since the 1970s, scholars have observed that the Justices have misconstrued sex differences as “natural” or “biological” rather than socially constructed and essentially malleable. As a result, the Court has often been unwilling to see men and women as “similarly situated” for the purposes of equal protection analysis.''
Yale Law Journal. Lawyers with Yale law degrees and whatnot.
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More history: ''DeCrow also championed men’s rights as fathers, arguing for a “rebuttable presumption” of shared custody after divorce. She worked with the Fathers’ Rights Association of New York State and joined the board of the Children’s Rights Council, a pro-joint custody group. More recently, she was on the board of Leading Women for Shared Parenting. (In an ironic twist, one of her fellow LW4SP board members was her old nemesis Phyllis Schlafly, whom DeCrow frequently debated on college campuses in the 1980s and 1990s.)''
....''In a 1984 Father’s Day column, DeCrow described a conversation with a client, a divorced mother of three who was having childcare troubles because of an unusual work schedule: “‘What about the father?’ I asked. ‘Is he willing to take them during those hours?’ ‘Their father?’ she exclaimed. ‘That’s just what he wants!’” ...
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/06/the-now-president-who-became-a-mens-rights-activist/372742/
How do you think I know about this stuff, huh?
I've been at this since the 80s! When men were treated like garbage except for California.
''DeCrow herself was increasingly at odds with the organization she had once led, though she never broke with it. By the mid-1990s, NOW was openly hostile to the fathers’-rights movement, arguing that women were the real victims of bias in family courts.''

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Thank you. I met a man i the family court waiting area, whose wife left him 15 years before , with their two kids. He searched the country for the whole time, aching to see his kids.
I met him when his estranged wife, out of the blue, filed for child support.
He owed 15 years worth, NOW, or his life was fucked. I met him several times there, with his new SO. Judge Judy fucked that man's life up big time, and would not listen to him or his new SO.
They were financially ruined, and the SO was extremely disturbed at how cold hearted and openly mean and mocking Judge Judy was to a man devestated by not seeing his own kids in 15 years.
EVERYONE knows that men were super fucked over her entire reign in the NYS family court system. Her's was a reign of abject terror.
Then she said things written by a PR team to boost ratings.
I wish I could yell through a megaphone for 48 hours nonstop at everyone in this sub about real things she did, to counter her 10 second PR posturing.
She was in charge of family TORTURE, and did it in the sick and twisted grinning manner of a sadistic psychopath out to hurt others for kicks.
NO I did NOT exaggerate.
She is the lying cunt rat cockroach shitpile cunt, exaggerating, and making up lies to cover her evil and wicked past of heartless mayhem. A family wrecker. A person who spits in the face of a crying child.
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It used to be that men had ownership of the children because he had sole responsibility for the children. The women had zero responsibility to support the family or children, and all income and property she acquired was solely hers. Moreso, men had to pay the taxes on their wives income.

It used to be that since men had all the responsibility for the family and children he also had all the rights to them. Now men still have all the responsibility, and none of the rights.

And as for the "women couldn't vote" deal, women also did not have to sign up for the draft. They never paid the price to vote, so they didn't get the reward. It's a simple concept, yet nobody ever seems to take beef with the idea that women would ever have to buy their rights with their lives like men do. Now women have those rights, and still hold no responsibility. At no point in history have women had the short end of the stick, it used to be balanced to her responsibilities. Fucking revisionist history is the worst thing feminism has spawned.

/u/zombiehive, this is for you too.

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Yes, they had it shitty. They'd have to work 8-12 hours a day maintaining the home and raising kids. It was hard, repetitive labor, and they frequently didn't have many rights.

Men had more rights, and were expected to risk injury and death in service of the family. If any threats came about, he would be the first line of defence, and die if need be to protect his woman and children.

Seems like a balanced trade off if you're being honest with yourself. Neither was better. One had low risk, low reward, one had high risk, high reward, and at the end of the day, the woman would probably live. There's a very good reason that during our formative years of the species, one man reproduced for every sixteen women. Men have been disposable from day one, so it's only right that you are rewarded for that, right?

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English Law gave custody to fathers until the 19th century

Got it. This seems different than your original claim. Above you agreed that...

women were being thrown out on the streets and denied access to their children at the rate that is happening to men in the U.S.

and

Women being able to take custody of their children is a relatively new phenomenon.

Now you're seem to be focusing more specifically on English Law. But English law is only a portion of the world (and varied through time itself). I know for a fact that we can find scenarios where men were treated unfairly, and other scenarios where women were treated unfairly. I am not arguing that isn't the case (i'm not really arguing anything, I just want to know the truth because I like believing true things).

Which is part of the reason I asked for what led you to this belief.

All to say, I think I am convinced that point is true that from some point up until the 19th century english law gave custody to fathers. I am not convinced that the original point you made is true, which is listed above: That women were being thrown out into the streets and denied access to their children at a rate that is happening to men in the US, or that women being able to take custody of their children is a relatively new phenomenon.

Maybe you can elaborate on what you actually believe, because I wonder if we're just having a misunderstanding...

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1700s-1800s.

So you have to remember that this is going to be an English thing, because of course England was the first European country to allow divorce and that was in the mid-1500s. Which would have still been taboo... jeez, into the 1800s. And totally unacceptable on the continent until a similar time.

So this history is really a history of around the enlightenment era, which is the period of the utmost oppression of women maybe anywhere on Earth at any time; including saudi arabia today.

Women became seen as stupid, prone to fits, needy, failing to produce anything worthwhile, etc. And reading literature from the period it's incredible what women were told to do.

A woman worried 90% about her appearance. That was what a woman was for: reproduction and not being a burden on her husband beyond necessary. This is why during this period women get these insanely elaborate costumes that take hours to put on and are so bad for your health, things to make your waist look incredibly slim, hoops to exaggerate the hips, layers upon layers of fabric and undergarments, you get the picture.

You might be imagining a black and white photo right now; you're almost there. That's 1800s after things had toned down. 1700s was even more extreme.

so, because of this, it was understood that of course women were unfit to be parents. Women were incompetent grown children themselves, except also prone to fainting, hysteria, fits, panics, and so on. Plus, she couldn't work except as a maid, nanny, or other servant, and it was unfitting for a child to be running around in a rich person's house belonging to one of the servants.

Prior to this period (when divorce was illegal mind you), restrictions on women were not nearly so severe. You can read in English literature from 1500's and before that women could work in most jobs although it might be a little odd, and men seemed to fall more deeply and fully in love with women than just seeking an heir factory.

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This is the time of Coverture (which was loosed up around the time of the Market Revolution in the US). Coverture is when a woman loses her legal identity after marriage - all property she owned prior to marriage belongs to her husband, she cannot enter into contracts of any kind, she couldn't go to school. She couldn't even attempt to seek a divorce because it would require her husband to agree to it and "sign off," since her legal standing is entirely the husbands domain.

Coverture lost some of its appeal in the US during the Civil War because so many men were away from the home. Even then, the women in charge of the home were Deputy Husbands, highlighting that in order to enter contracts, buy/sell property, manage a business, etc, one had to be a husband (and therefore, male) to do it effectively. The letters between soldiers and their wives during that era is very interesting!

Post Civil War we go straight into True Womanhood and Self-Made Manhood, which along with loosening the noose of coverture, put the home (including children) in the domain of women and the outside world as the domain of men.

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The summation of my opinion is:

• People are inherently shaped by their environments, leading to predictability in decision making, which is backed up by leading statistics on how certain classes of people react to certain situations. People do not have agency, but rather, we have brains that let us believe we have it.

• History does not resolve itself within a few generations: i.e. racism on black people in America has had dramatic effects on how their culture has been shaped, and has limited their opportunity in the current day. It takes multiple generations for a class of people to get out of a rut of economic disadvantage, so my belief is that we can improve the situation for them (to the average) through targeted policymaking.

• I do not feel "white guilt". I feel that society is better if people's disadvantages are minimised, rather than simply waved away as their own individual choices. Since I believe that all people are predictable and not some kind of creature that is able to make perfect choices no matter the circumstances, then it's easy to believe that groups of people have more or less opportunity for success when compared to other groups of people, based upon their environments.

• Individual opinion isn't as important as fact and statistics. I do not tend to give credence to anecdotal and unsourced opinions. If you talk to an individual, you can lead them into saying almost anything to fuel your narrative. But if you take an unbiased look at large groups of people, you can learn a lot more.

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My son is a teenager now but her mother and i split when he was around 3 years old. She has always had full custody and I have always paid child support and this was one of the main reasons for it. We wanted them to have a stable "home" and didn't want to be shipping back and forth between mine and her place every week.

We settled supervision ourselves. unless the ex had something planned i could pretty much see the kids whenever i wanted, keep him for the weekend, etc etc. I was still able to feel like a father. You will miss things. Its just a side effect of being separated, but in the end I still believe I made the right decision. I have a great relationship with my teenaged son

I am lucky enough to have an ex who wanted what was best for the kids and has never used them against me or kept them from seeing me even when things got heated between us. We were able to salvage a friendship out of the marriage which has helped tremendously in that respect as well.

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Piece of advice for you.

This isn't about you vs your ex. This is about you wanting to be there for your son and be an equal parent. This is about doing what is right for your son.

There were times when my ex made this about her vs me. It's shitty, but don't back down.

Make sure you have a clean place to live with a bedroom for your son, food, and a salary that can manage taking care of the two of you. Spend any and all time your ex lets you spend with your son right now.

Every time you ask to see him or talk to him, write it down in a book. Write down what her response is, and when you got to talk or see him in relation to when you asked. Keep all that information down.

There will be times where you will feel like the right choice is just to submit to what they are asking. But don't. Be fair, fight for a legit 50/50 split (this includes holidays, special events, etc). Be flexible and willing to exchange days when you need to.

Just do what you truly feel is right for your son, and don't give up.

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Dude, me too. Me too.

Keep this a secret between you and me, but before I met my wife I was obese, smoked weed all day every day, worked a dead end job with no possible career path, and had no goals or ambitions besides getting high and getting Taco Bell.

That old hackneyed phrase "it's just a phase" exists because it's true. You're in a funk. It won't last forever. I won't recommend any bullshit like a "therapist" or medication because that shit doesn't work, I'll just suggest that one day you'll wake up wanting more from life than what you have now.

And then you'll grab life by the balls and take the world by storm. When the time comes to put aside your childish ways, you will do so. It's in your blood, it's in your genes, it's in your soul.

No homo, I believe in you, and hear this shit hard: when it's time for you to make your move, you'll make it. Please PM me anytime in the future if you're feeling extra blue

Edit: u/Hollen88 made the important point that my personal experience might not be your personal experience. Please explore all your options, including therapy and medication. Please work toward finding whatever works for you

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Brother go to the gym as often as you can. It's that straightforward.

2000 years ago Socrates knew "No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable."

Be proud of yourself and you will then take pride in everything you do. Don't waste anymore of your mortal time on this Earth as a flabby useless degenerate.

It sucks I have to explicitly state that I am not echoing r/theredpill, but in all seriousness there is no greater tragedy than never knowing the limits of your physical capability. Just fucking do it. Be who you want to be.

There's no rule that says the man you were a minute ago has to be the man you are a minute from now. It's your life, live it how you choose to live it

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I'm 31 and finally started going to the gym with a buddy about three months ago. It's one of the best decisions I've ever made. I feel great and several people have told me I look like I've lost weight (I haven't, but my gut has shrunk a bit from fat being converted into muscle). I don't see so much physical improvement in myself yet, but I do have visible biceps for probably the first time in my life.

I know r/theredpill isn't especially popular here (or at least it doesn't seem so) but they still make some damn solid points with regard to personal improvement and the emphasis they place on lifting and getting into shape is easily the best among them. Even if you're like me and don't necessarily intend to go whole hog with dietary fitness, it's difficult to overstate the benefits of simply hitting the gym two or three times a week.

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Don't let the people who hate you win. There's a lot of movement in the US to make fatherhood so intimidating that men won't bother to have children. Not all of that is intentional. Lots of media shoved down your throat just wants you to believe kids make your life suck, or they are so hard that it's not worth it.

Unless you're absolutely against having kids, go find a nice woman somewhere and start a family. You've got a limited window of time to do it. Kids are cool. Families are cool. Fathers raising their own kids are cool. Don't fall for the lure of the media that you're a fuckup just like every TV dad who gets bullied by his TV wife.

If you don't have nice women in your area then travel. Foreign women are awesome. American women can be awesome too, but it can vary in certain areas. If your area sucks, take some trips and meet new people.

Don't let the people who hate you win. Live the life you want to, not the life hateful people are trying to impress onto you.

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That exact thing happened to me almost a whole year ago. We broke up and she took off with our son and told me she didn't know when I would be able to have him overnight again and that's just how it was going to be. I lawyered up the next day and in July we finally are going to have the the big hearing to determine if I get shared parenting or not. I've been stuck with only eight days a month for what seems forever and it sucks. She's admitted in court that I'm a good father so she has no real reason other than spite to deny me shared parenting every time we've gone to a hearing.

Don't take my story scare you away as your experience may vary lol. I don't regret having him with her because I love my son to death and I'll fight for him until you put me in the ground. I only regret how unwilling she's been to work with me for what's best for him.

I have no doubt in my mind that I will get shared parenting so this past year of teeth grinding after each stunt she's pulled will be worth it when I get more time to spend with my son.

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Not exactly (it's a little complicated).

There are two types of post military compensation, but they both equal 100% of your compensation (horrible description. bear with me).

You retire from the military with 100% retirement benefits.

You go to the VA and get your bad knees classified as a service related disability at 20%.

You can choose to keep the 100% retirement, or take 80% retirement and 20% disability.

Retirement benefits are split upon divorce, but disability benefits are not.

Here are the specifics of this case:

This man had 100% retirement benefits, but had a classified disability. He choose to reduce his retirement benefits (thereby reducing the portion that his wife received every month) by taking his disability benefits.

She took him to court, and had them take more than 50% of the 80% + 20% disability.

He appealed to the Supreme Court.

Disability benefits are off limits in a divorce. Period. That's what was decided by the courts.

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Most women are not terrible or sexist, just like most men are not. I don't know why so many insist that all the women they know have fucked them over? If you continue to meet shitty women, examine what you are doing and see if it's your tastes or just bad luck. It's like how some women are always attracted to abusive, asshole boyfriends--sometimes you're drawn to the shitty members of a group for some weird reason. Go to therapy, look inward--figure out what's up. That doesn't mean the whole group is shitty, though. You know?

Fwiw, I'm a feminist in that I am 100% for equal men and women's rights, in the courts and everywhere else (which many, many feminists are--but boyyyy our shitty members who disagree are loud and obnoxious). I think if we have to have a draft, both sexes should be eligible--though I disagree with drafts in general. :) 'Benevolent sexism' is just as terrible as the malicious shit. It damages men and even women.

I wish we could all work together instead of demonizing the other group. You guys aren't all bad, but some are (not the majority); can you agree that it's the same for feminists? We're honestly the two sides of the same coin, and the fact that we can't come together (almost never) speaks to how long we still have to go before both men and women are treated equally.

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I don't know why so many insist that all the women they know have fucked them over?

They don't have to be terrible, or sexist.

During divorce women are given an array of levers. Pulling these levers will get them what they want. Pull this lever, and you get half of the current property and assets. Pull that lever you get child support and alimony. Pull this other lever, and you get absolute custody of the child.

People acting in their own best interest are just people. It isn't sexism.

I wish we could all work together instead of demonizing the other group.

We aren't demonizing a group. We are demonizing a system. This system victimizes fathers, and mothers benefit from this. But it's the system that encourages this outcome, not the mothers themselves.

Changing mothers would do nothing to change this outcome. Why? Because women have to give up something they already have during a divorce for us to achieve equality. The system basically starts off with, the woman gets all of this, and you get to pay for it. If you fight that, you are a horrible dad and don't deserve custody. So, the mother has to give up what she's already got if we want equality, which isn't something you can expect people to do (especially in acrimonious divorces).

Requiring the system to treat people equally, would resolve that issue.

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I see blue pill manginas are downvoting this comment. In case you simps need a reminder why to never get married:

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I'm afraid that "our " wedding will be all about you and my role will consist of "Shut up. Pay up. Get yelled at."

I'm afraid that after you've had your dream wedding and you find yourself having to deal with day to day reality, it will end up being my fault that you're not living happily ever after.

I'm afraid that I will gradually stop being the guy you love and want to spend the rest of your life with and turn into the room-mate you can barely stand but you keep me around for the heavy lifting and helping to pay the rent.

I'm afraid that you will take marriage advice from your mother and her friends, all of whom will tell you that being nice to your husband is fucking stupid and you shouldn't bother. I'm afraid that you'll not wonder why your father is so miserable...

I'm afraid that you will "accidentally" slip up on birth control and I'll end up with children whether I like it or not. ..But when you're the size of a house and fed up, I'll be "the bastard that did this to you."

I'm afraid that the first words my daughter learns will be "Isn't daddy stupid?"

I'm afraid that you'll yellat me for not doing enough with the kids - but every time I try, you show up to tell me that I'm doing it wrong and "why are you so useless?"

I'm afraid that once you've got the children you wanted, your libido will fall off the edge of a cliff.

I'm afraid that sex will stop being a special moment between us and become something you use to keep me in line, only deployed when I've been a good dog.

I'm afraid that "our" home will fill up with your family and your friends, all of whom will treat me like I don't deserve to be there.

I'm afraid our relationship will consist of me trying to keep you from yelling at me.

I'm afraid that I'll be continually expected to support you and care for you and prove how committed I am - and in return I'll get drama, nagging and conintual reminders that I'm useless.

I'm afraid that you'll spend the entire marriage telling me that my opinion is worthless and then bitch when I don't immediately come up with an answer to whatever drama you're moaning about.

I'm afraid that any display of insecurity or feeling down will be met with a terse "Oh man up" and subsequently used to beat me over the head for not being a real man.

I'm afraid that every time I'm sick your way of proving how much you care is to make snide comments about man-flu and bitch because I'm lying around doing nothing.

I'm afraid that any time I get time to myself, you'll be right there with a honey-do list or some little job that needs doing right now, just to make sure I never get chance to relax.

I'm afraid that no matter what I do, there's always something else that's making you pissed off.

I'm afraid that I'll gradually end up losing my hobbies, interests, opinions, friends and as many of my possesions as you can throw away when my back is turned. And you'll then bitch at me for being "Boring"

I'm afraid that I'll wake up one day and realise that I'm paying for a house that isn't my home, full of shit that somebody else wanted, kids that are being raised to treat me with contempt and a life that consists of "work. eat. sleep." Correction. "Work. Eat. Get moaned at. Sleep."

And of course there's always the possibility that after I've tried to give you everything you wanted, you'll decide one day that my services are no longer required and I'll find myself in a bedsit, pisspoor and wondering what happened to the last ten years of my life.

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As a divorcee, this is pretty much all truth in a failed marriage. I spent the last few months of my failed marriage (And even the subsequent failed relationship) just being consistently annoyed by her drama. Because all her trashy friends and family kept giving her advice that causing drama every chance she got would somehow slow down making me care less. That seems to be the mindset of many women, turning every petty molehill into a mountain is somehow supposed to make me care. Pretending to make it important to you does not translate to making it important to me.

About the "Trashy" comment. She was perfectly taken care of when she was with me. She didn't have any bills. I paid for her phone, rent, car, just about all the bills (She paid for netflix, whoopee), and she bummed my smokes. She got a job at Wal-Mart but instead of helping out, she spent 90% of her money on fast food and stupid crap she'd use once and then return. She got really fat... and I mean REALLY fat. Normally wouldn't be a problem, as I'm into bigger women, but she was also a complete slob. Her parents were worthless, my family had to pay for the entire wedding. Her parents didn't even bother to show up.

Also, you do lose your hobbies, friends, and interests when you're married. Everything has to be about her. Everything. But thankfully I never lost my opinions. I'd just roll my eyes whenever she thought her opinion mattered more than mine and said some completely disarming comment.

I know I was a complete asshole in the last few months of the relationship, but she basically battered any romance, attraction or sensitivity I had for her out of me. I couldn't have fun or time to myself. I couldn't even do anything I loved anymore. If I played video games on my laptop she'd start a fight that I wasn't paying attention to her enough. If I wanted to watch college football(Which is only one day of the week for 3 hours) She'd intentionally cause drama so it'd ruin the whole experience for me. If I wanted to have a couple of drinks, she'd go around my entire family and tell them I'm an alcoholic. I basically had quit drinking altogether for half of my marriage. Yet she was constantly playing Destiny on her Xbox, and would go out almost every other night to get shitfaced with her white trash Wal-Mart friends.

Long story short, that marriage was doomed from the get-go. Also, to the ass-hat below me who thinks this shit only happens to pushovers? The only reason I got married in the first place is that there was a point in time where she wasn't a complete nightmare. She took care of my mom when I was on the wrong side of a prison visitation window. Decidedly not a pushover.

The final straw was when she heard female voices over my skype chat (I was talking to my guiid on WoW) and when I went to go to the bathroom she grabbed and smashed my laptop. Luckily she was too stupid to smash the actual computer part, and just broke the screen.(At least I could connect it to a TV and still use it while I waited for my new one to arrive.) I ignored her completely for around two weeks, then she implied she was cheating on me. So I kicked her out. She took her clothes, got in her car, and drove back to the West coast to her parents. Never saw her again. Good riddance. Now I heard she got into meth and is running around with a Neo-Nazi (She's not white) Maybe I should feel bad about the meth part, but the Neo-Nazi part just kinda cancelled it out.

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Hello everyone. I'm a single dad. I feel like my son is many times more safe with me than with his mom. Before I got my son, my ex had lots of boyfriends, and the last one she was with was an ex-con who was in and out of jail a lot.

I've come to realize a couple things. One, it is easier for a woman to find a man in the dating world than the other way around. Everyone knows this but few admit it for whatever reason. So the probability of a woman having multiple men in their lives is higher than most men having multiple women. Multiple people coming in a child's home probably increases the odds of something bad happening to the child, but I don't have the data, except from my own experience with my ex. I would think it would create a less stable environment. I have had my child for three years now, and in that span of time I only had one relationship with a woman and it only lasted a month. That was it. I don't really see myself meeting anyone new any time soon either. The dating scene is very bad for men these days if you ask me. I've also learned recently that women without kids don't want to date men with children. The reverse is not as true I don't think. Personally, I would not want to date a woman with more than two kids (but I might make an exception depending on the circumstances), mostly because that is a lot of responsibility, but one or two kids, I'm ok with that as long as the mother is a responsible person, and I was even this way before I had my son. However, I have seen lots of online dating profiles where women don't want guys with kids and I also had a lady turn me down recently because I had a kid.

So for the past three years, it has mostly just been me and my son. He has had his own room (for the first time in his life) and a safe environment in which to grow. I'm also college educated and work in computers. We have a total of four computers in our apartment and his computer skills have increased a great deal because of this. He sometimes surprises me and learns things I never even knew about. He actually installed hardware like the Steam Link himself and configured a programmable keypad on his $45 gaming mouse all by himself. He never really had these opportunities before.

The point is that society needs to stop assuming that the mother is always the better choice. I can't stress enough how much this needs to change. I wanted to tell my own story because I know there are dads out there still struggling, still being stereotyped by society, and still not seeing justice. Some guys out there might disagree with my story, and to this I would say I am speaking from my own experience in life. My experience may not be typical, but it is true to my own existence.

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Family court, at least in San Jose CA, has either never been educated about personality disorders, parental alienation, and hostile aggressive parenting.....or they have and that is not important to them and bias trumps it all. We had clear evidence presented to the court of my husbands ex emotionally/psychologically abusing their daughter, and it is very obvious severe alienation with each court hearing. What do they do? Change split custody- AND GIVE THE ABUSING MOTHER FULL CUSTODY!!! This is what happened. I never in a million years would have thought this was the reality of it. My husbands ex is the Golden Uterus Syndrome mother word per word, all of it exactly. Alot of children would be saved from abuse if judges, lawyers, and therapists had the heart and intellect that Judge Judy has.

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To be fair, the stay at home parent is usually closer to the child and I'm sure the child would be happier with that parent. If a parent is working really long hours, they might not know the kid and be a good of a care taker as the stay at home one.

Honestly if I was young and my parents got separated I would be a bit devastated if I were to go with my dad an not my mom since she was the one that did the primary caring for me at the time. And I absolutely love my dad, it's just that he's not gonna know what I like to eat, what clothes to buy, helping me with emotional adjustments, who my friends are etc. as much as my mom that spends more time listening to me talk.

It would be a different story if my mom was abusive or has a dangerous lifestyle, but that's not the case.

Also jobless can be kinda temporary, what if 1 parent is just laid off or studying, or looking at the time of the divorce.

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Should could've if she tried. She was studying for a while, but she could've just went and got a job if really needed. The thing is my dad probably wouldn't have wanted her to stop studying and would've supported me either way even if they did separate, cuz her working a crappy job would mean she would have no time for me and my quality of life would suffer. And he would still be my dad, he would've just lost my mom as his wife. Not every divorce causes the couple to be mortal enemies or screw each other with any means possible.

What's this sacrificing body mind and soul stuff? It would just be money that he would have to spend on his family anyways before a separation. He would only suffer if my mom was an asshole that wanted to make him suffer and keep me from my father for selfish reasons. If my mom was that crazy and that much of an asshole, then yeah custody should probably not go to her.

The argument was custody should go to someone that's working, which is irrelevant. It should go to whoever would give the child the best life (which includes not being crazy). Not working doesn't make you a bad parent.

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I'm not going to guess your feelings, or your dad's feelings. But I can make a statement on my own dad's feelings since I know him well. He's not the type to have "real feelings" that he would hide, and he has a pretty healthy environment to make his feelings known.

If you have concerns about expressing your real feelings or feel like people are making decisions for your against your will, that's probably based on your own experiences and you shouldn't project that onto other people.

I'm not saying all dads would be happy about this, I'm saying MY dad would be happy to financially provide for me (even now being fully grown, making more money than him, I can't even get him to stop trying to pay for everything). You don't have anyone that you know so well that you can speak for them with a great amount of certainty?

Anyways, I think you're pursuing a thing that isn't even relevant in this conversation, caring for your kid is a responsibility regardless of how you feel about it.

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I can't "decide" the feelings of anyone, I can express my understanding of them. You keep implying I disregard the feeling of my dad, I wonder how I'm doing that, disregarding would usually imply actions on my part that go against what he wants without considering what he thinks.

I'm just stating my understanding of my own dad. I'm not deciding anything for him. He can speak you know, and communicate his feelings, which he does.

I don't know why you're arguing with me on this, since if you didn't realize, my thoughts on my dad's feelings are not legally binding. A judge isn't going to be like, oh your child THINKS you like paying for them, so you should. You're just saying for some reason I can't be sure of my dad's feelings, which is weird since you don't know my dad at all.

This is like if my dad said "Hey likes_tea really likes to drink tea", and you going "well looks like you already decided what they like, what likes_tea's feelings really are doesn't matter".

I'm going to ask you this again, do you have no one that you're so close to that you can represent their feelings with great certainty? And do you think there's no one in the world that would have a relationship like that with someone?

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My dad would be paying for most stuff until my mom finishes school? I feel like people here are inherently triggered by child support even if it's done right. Child support actually serves a real purpose. It could be exploited but only if the parent isn't using it on the kid.

A kid needs more than money to survive, and money is one of the most transferrable things. What if the earning potential of the parents switches after the separation (very well can happen if my dad gets laid off and my mom graduates and find a decent job)? Does custody get changed around? It's a terrible way to decide custody.

Children should have the support of both parents, in as similar of a situation as possible before a divorce happens. If I stayed with my mom primarily, and get financial support, occasional homework help, play fights, and random adventures from my dad, it would simulate the environment I had before as closely as possible. It sucks that I would have to travel to another house to do cool stuff with my dad, but that's what sucks about a divorce.

While if I went with my dad, my life would suddenly be really strange since my dad while really cool most of the time, can't take care of the day to day as much.

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I guess we disagree fundamentally on child support and I guess how society should work. I don't think there's a point of continuing this discussion since we disagree on something a lot bigger than that.

My mom actually makes almost the same amount of money as my dad now btw. She was a doctor from another country, and just had to get herself re-licensed as a nurse here. She would've been able to support me if she got a worse job and stopped studying, but my dad wouldn't have wanted that anyways and would've just paid for it (cuz he's actually a decent person).

I don't understand why after a divorce, a person would hurt themselves and their kid just so their ex would suffer as well, it's so petty.

But I think we disagree on when people should help and support each other. It's a huge political issue and you can have your own opinions. Honesty both my parents are pretty politically conservative, they hate welfare, minimum wage, and taxes and stuff, but agree on parents supporting their kids fully. I lean more liberal for sure, cuz I would rather have my society safe and happy, and believes that the benefit of potentially rescuing a life is worth the possibility someone takes advantage of a benefit. Each to their own.

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The look on the guy's face is the best part. He probably just got a huge boost of confidence from that. I imagine the court system has been pretty brutal to him so far when it comes to custody of his child. Seeing Judge Judy lay down the law like that must have been great.

Seriously though, there are a lot of bad fathers and a lot of bad mothers, but there are a lot kids living with bad single mothers who have used the court system and their gender to rob men of their children. This rarely helps anyone aside from the mother herself. The father and the child both suffer from that situation. A child who doesn't have a relationship with his/her father almost always has serious issues growing up that persist through adulthood.

If I look back on all the people I've met throughout my life, kids I met in school, people I've worked with etc... almost every person who had serious issues was raised by a single mother. This doesn't necessarily mean the mothers were bad, that's not what I'm saying. But it does show, to me at least, that it's very important to have a stable home for raising children, or at least let a child have their father as a role model and active participant in their life. Shutting out the dad when he did nothing wrong usually destroys two lives while only making one life, that of the mother, marginally more pleasant. The fact that everyone in our media and education system keep selling us a vision of society that undermines the importance of men as fathers seems like we're being set up for a social disaster. The destruction of the family unit will result in the destruction of our society.

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It all started years ago when I was still in training...

I was forbidden to love, but oh how I fell for my queen! It was taboo sure, barely a man yet these feelings were wise beyond the oldest masters. So real, so intense. I had to have her. We retreated to her summer abode. Frolicked in the gardens, made love by the fire place. Our passion was glorious!

But it was a fantasy. It could not last, our lives were too complicated. My passion turned into fear; fear that would lose my love! I had already lost my mother. I held her in my hands as her life faded, I could do nothing to stop it! All this training, and power that reside in me and I couldn't protect my own mother! But I would not lose my queen no.

Another teacher told me to embrace my feelings, that it would make me more powerful. To embrace the face the fear, and let it turn into hate. That's what I did. I felt my power grow, and now I would be able to defend my love from the galaxy if I had to. They took my mother, they took my freedom, but they can't have my queen.

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So your end all be all evidence is a times article from 2010 and local Canadian news article showing one case? What are global statistics showing no wage gap or exposing a biased sentencing gap? Have you read the 400 page report by the department of labor? It breaks down the gap in each major industry. It came out in 2012 I believe, you can Google it. Of course that would require having an open mind, so I'm not sure about anyone on this sub skimming through the report lol.

Also women are eligible for the draft now as well and have been fighting for years to be combat soildiers. Remember 2 years ago the women trying out for the army rangers? They failed because instead of the idea of all female units with their own requirements, the army held the standards set for males. It's men who created that boundary, and men who continue to uphold then. It seems like you actually have a lot of overlap with feminist views, am I right to assume that?

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Title	Judge Judy Gets It
Author	drajgreen
Upvotes	27063
Comments	1156
Date	May 24, 2017 11:14 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6d1h12/judge_judy_gets_it/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/judge-judy-gets-it.1071823 https://theredarchive.com/post/1071823

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