How do some guys get laid or dates without having to make much effort or doing anything special?

AquaChip · 2022-08-22T17:27:04+00:00

Looks and for those who don’t have amazing looks, Charisma.

RahLyt · 2022-08-22T17:19:42+00:00

Because all that advice boils down to how you carry yourself in the world.

Your body language, charisma, how comfortable you are in your environment. Basically inner confidence. That's why a lot of guys work hard to improve themselves but overlook that fact that they need to work internally too. You need to be comfortable in your own body.

Answering your question. Because a lot of men had positive feedback their whole life, so it just comes naturally. So it doesn't matter if they are broke or fat, they will still approach and try to bring these girls to their world's.

It's a harsh truth but if you struggled with girls during middle/high school it will be a long process till you get into a leveled playing field. You literally missed the phase where everyone was carefree clumsy and when guys understood girls were the same as them not more or less.

Girls get away with it because our sexuality is different. Even if a girl is awkward or don't know how to be sexy. We can still make it work because our attraction to flesh makes it work. Girls on the other hand, can get repulsed if a guy doesn't know how to just be sexy for example.

wtknight · 2022-08-22T17:43:48+00:00

Men who naturally have good genetics, are naturally very interesting, or who have naturally high status aren't going to have to put in much work. Every other guy does. That's just how things are. Women are naturally picky.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-08-22T17:22:24+00:00

Some guys are just lucky.

Some guys are just good

Some guys are just both

Slyfer_Seven · 2022-08-22T18:22:22+00:00

Because they were hugged enough growing up to feel assured of themselves and their place in the world, but not too much so that they would feel entitled to anything...

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2022-08-22T17:10:15+00:00

Luck. Any success I've had with women hasn't taken afford and has generally been them making the move/strongly hinting that I should make a move.

KirthWGersen · 2022-08-22T17:41:26+00:00

I do it by talking to lots of women socially, in a friendly, fun way; including everyone, laughing at the absurdity of life. If I sense that a particular woman is attracted to me, I talk to her a bit more, and suggest making her dinner one day/her making me dinner one day.

It really is as simple as that.

Someone has to take the interaction forward, and it might as well be you.

modidlee · 2022-08-22T18:02:00+00:00

Be decent looking
Have a cool personality and be a good conversationalist
Go for the women who you can tell are interested in you and ignore the ones who aren’t

Following these rules not only has gotten me sex without too much hassle, it’s also had it to where pretty much all the women I get involved with are open to an actual relationship with me. I think too many guys mess up by strictly going for the women they’re most attracted to, and then they try to convince her to give them a chance. These guys usually end up bitter because they eventually get tired of bending over backwards for a woman who never had any intention of doing anything with them. If you go for the women that already show they like you everything is easier.

SwaySh0t · 2022-08-22T21:48:35+00:00

status and game is the most important qualities to have. Im connected in the bar/party scene in my city and when I walk in one of the bars/clubs I know everybody that works there and everyone knows me. I get special treatment because I’ve built those personal relationships. When I invite girls out they get special treatment by proxy for being with me. It creates this kinda local celebrity effect/bubble. Bonus points If the girl bartenders or bottle girls find you attractive because they’ll do most of the work for you with gossip/social proof, and we all know girls love what they hear about men. The trick is too get a very large social circles/social status in any given area/venue and game helps you get these things.

revente · 2022-08-23T00:04:36+00:00

Well obviously to get laid you need to somehow meet girls.

And keep in mind that most of the attractive girls already have a bf. Maybe as much as 70%.

Then there are undatables - ones stuck on an ex, crazies, bitches, and lesbians. Let's say another 10%.

Finally there are the girls who might be interested in you on another day, but today aren't in a 'seductive mood'. Maybe they're on a PMS or just need to take a shit, whatever... 10%

So before even your perceived attraction level comes into play -you're left with a very modest 10% success chance.

So there are 2 main strategies - social circle game -much easier but 10x slower and you have little control over who you meet and cold approaching -much lower success chance but if you're proactive you can meet more hot girls in a single weekend than you'd in a year of the social circle game.

Personally, the vast majority of the girls I've ever dated were met through the cold approach in the clubs.

Even though I have many different social circles, lots of cool friends and I'm confident that I could date most single women in those circles...

There have been maybe 2 or 3 gf caliber girls in those circles.

Over a decade or so...

And every time either they had a bf or I had a gf.

Also whenever I was single I was looking for younger girls. And most of my circles consist of people my age.

Even in 1 of my biggest circles that consist mostly of girls 10 years younger than me, where there are some good-looking girls, I didn't really find anyone who I'd be happy to date. (But I'm very picky when it comes to relationships)

figuringMylife · 2022-08-22T17:44:22+00:00

they’re hot and charming

Head-Language-2977 · 2022-08-22T18:07:09+00:00

I believe in leagues so I think the key is to know your league and stay relatively close to it. I know plenty of below-average looking men who don’t struggle, but their girlfriends are also below-average looking. The guys I know with significant dry spells are not always socially awkward but often times tend to have unrealistic expectations.

SilentFroggy · 2022-08-22T17:53:26+00:00

Be physically attractive or be popular around other men. This also means you can’t be yourself if that’s not your type of personality.

BlueMountainDace · 2022-08-22T18:33:09+00:00

Something which I never see much about on this forum is the place where most people find ONS. It isn't at the grocery store or gym or school. It is at clubs and bars and parties. I went to a big college and I rarely heard of women doing spur of the moment sexual stuff if they were sober.

But, when you're even a super mediocre guy at a club or bar and you're drunk and the women are drunk, everything changes. Everyone is friendlier. Everyone becomes more charming. That is where the ONS happens. And I suppose that can lead to a girlfriend.

As for finding a girlfriend - I really don't think it is complicated if you're off of Tinder or whatever. You do not have to be especially smart or fit or good-looking or charming or rich to get a girlfriend. Looking from middle school through present, most people who got into relationships were usually only one or two degrees separated from the person they started dating. That means that they were either friends before dating, were part of the same friend group, or had a mutual friend.

Those things you read on the seduction sub - getting fitter, richer, etc - will all undoubtedly help, but you don't need to do those things specifically to meet and date women.

If you want a ONS (though I never did) - go to a bar or a club and meet people. If you want a girlfriend (or boyfriend) make friends and meet their friends.

Slipthe · 2022-08-22T17:09:11+00:00

I know plenty of fat/ jobless / friendless guys who get girls or get laid without much efforts

You might just be limited in your understanding of where they put in the effort.

But the obvious answer is that attractive men, by definition, are attractive to more women. So then it's just all about being in the right place at the right time.

attendquoi · 2022-08-22T17:23:24+00:00

My husband had zero problems getting dates or sex when he was single. He was incredibly social. Bars, house parties, sporting events, etc. He was always out there and had a big circle of friends who were always inviting him to stuff. At least once a week, he was in a social situation where meeting a woman he had never met before was guaranteed.

He's still social, but most of those friends are married with kids now, so house parties have transformed into Discord chats, fantasy baseball, and playing Phasmophobia.

MarBitt · 2022-08-22T17:59:56+00:00

Be in a place where you meet a lot of girls and women having fun. Bartender. DJ. Bouncer. Music club owner. Alternatively, you can meet them in sports and leisure activities - horse riding teacher, tennis coach, yoga instructor, fitness trainer...

Some of these positions in some places mean in practice that you will most likely be directly sexually hounded, even harassed by drunken women.

Ideally, if "she comes to your place", you have at least some authority or social prestige there. So if there is a group of women and you are in the position for example, motivational speaker or marketing trainer, it is a great advantage. The suit is sexy on men for women. Being a direct seller provides fewer opportunities, but out of the hundred women you'll talk to, you're bound to be attractive to some.

They just have to be places where having fun won't cause you trouble at work. So medicine, education and any contact from a coach's position with young girls is a big no in this regard. A position of power, for example a director in a factory full of women, used to be a guaranteed way to one's own harem, but that is probably no longer the case today.

Plopolok · 2022-08-23T01:25:30+00:00

Preselection makes a huge difference. When women know you're accustomed to getting laid, they'll do it too.

BensonInFL · 2022-08-22T18:13:13+00:00

>How do some guys get laid or dates without having to make much effort or doing anything special?

They do something special, you just don't see it. You're focusing on outer game like going to the gym, while the real magic is inner game, how you feel about yourself. Your confidence, charisma, sense of humor, the way you flirt and carry yourself, play a huge role. Girls have much more social awareness and can sense that in you.

-B

IlIlIllIIIlllIIlIllI · 2022-08-22T17:56:20+00:00

The NTpill is the final enemy. The fact that you're here shows you have just a tiny amount of neurodivergence which dooms you.

corporatesandry · 2022-08-22T17:37:33+00:00

Why do you feel as though you “can’t seal the deal”?

supershotmd · 2022-08-22T18:08:48+00:00

First you have to be social and take risks. Then you have to subtract for handicaps - like being short, being overweight, not being white/white-hispanic (exception: black women prefer black men), being unemployed/under-employed. After all that, a large segment of the U.S. male population - about 40% - does fine without any additional work. The rest of them need to put in work to increase their socialization and/or decrease the handicaps in their control. After which, 60-80% of the U.S. male population does fine.

Severe-Pirate · 2022-08-22T20:06:05+00:00

They’re either very attractive or they have a lot of money and social status.

todo_pasa_ · 2022-08-22T18:02:15+00:00

Because it's all about social skills.

Sure money, being fit, beautiful helps but in the end it's all about social skills.

carlenvirgo · 2022-08-22T23:32:20+00:00

It’s confidence, persistence and character.

Ass-a-holic · 2022-08-22T19:29:52+00:00

How do you know these fat/jobless guys are getting a ton of play? Is that what they tell you or do u actually see it?

Those guys are probably playing the numbers game, ask out enough females and one is bound to say yes

likefireandmoonlight · 2022-08-22T20:10:38+00:00

Being real and honest and honestly just enjoying being with women; and not having your first question be - "how do I get laid?" would be a huge improvement.

bison5595 · 2022-08-22T21:27:26+00:00

The information you’re giving is very basic. We don’t know their age, location, or their dating history. Getting laid every once in a while is a lot different than getting laid consistently. Just because you have a girlfriend doesn’t mean you’re good with women.

TheSandNinja · 2022-08-22T21:49:10+00:00

Well are you taking into account the attractiveness of their girlfriends?

That’s a huge factor that red dudes typically gloss over.

When men talk about women, we’re generally referring to that top 30% of women (attractiveness). The women in your post probably are average looking or slightly better looking than their bfs so it would make sense why they’re compatible.

Also. You might be discounting the fact that your buddies might have charisma. This is by far the biggest x-factor that could win women over.

4spooked · 2022-08-22T22:10:05+00:00

The magic number 6. More specifically, 6 figures or 6 feet.

Comfortable-Unit-897 · 2022-08-22T22:24:00+00:00

You have to have that sales rep vibe. I aint got it.

GGMcThroway · 2022-08-22T23:03:57+00:00

Being able to carry a conversation and read social cues helps.

Flightlessbirbz · 2022-08-22T23:30:21+00:00

Social skills/charisma. Looks definitely help a lot, but you can have charisma without anything special in terms of looks and get lots of interest from women, but not so much the other way around. If you’re truly ugly that’s going to limit you and make it difficult to develop social skills in the first place, not gonna sugar coat it. But an average guy can get far with practice.

Smitten_Squire · 2022-08-22T18:09:44+00:00

Looks

Bikerbats · 2022-08-22T20:05:55+00:00

It's natural. It's a people skill that some people are just born with, and some poor sots are born with a huge deficit in that area. My best friend growing up is a great example of the opposite. Tall, good looking, reasonably smart, and always attracted attention. However, as another friend described him, he could get this close (holding thumb and forefinger an inch apart) to pussy, before opening his mouth and blowing it.

He was just cursed with never knowing quite what to say, and as a result he would either under-sell and look stupid and awkward, or boom, dive head first into totally inappropriate. That or he'd try to emulate one of us and deliver the same lines flatly without flirtatious energy, again to disastrous effects. Happy ending though, he eventually met a woman with mild cerebral palsy and matching social defects, and they've been together forever. The irony here is that if PPD saw his photo when he was young, you'd all call him chad.

The other friend I mentioned briefly above was the complete opposite. Taller than me, but still short at 5'4", but grew up with 5 sisters. Had an ease around women that was nothing short of incredible. Always charming, always witty, and just had an ability to express himself that was unmatched. Not so happy ending. He realized in his 40's that his superpower still worked on teenage girls, which led to his imprisonment and being branded as a sex offender until his last breath.

SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-08-22T17:29:32+00:00

By dating down lol

It ain't rocket science bruh

2022-08-22T17:38:23+00:00

Be genuinely a good friend and the women will introduce you to their friends themselves

how do I be a good friend

Good luck learning! :D

M_LaSalle · 2022-08-22T18:45:38+00:00

Money, fame, or win the genetic lottery.

Few-Frame-7264 · 2022-08-22T22:03:32+00:00

Andrew tate

purplish_possum · 2022-08-22T23:41:45+00:00

You go out and socialize. You drink in public. Women just sort of show up. One minute you're talking to some dude or watching the bon fire. Next minute there's a girl/woman standing next to you looking up with big doe eyes.

Puzzleheaded_Bet7294 · 2022-08-22T22:50:28+00:00

It’s literally just luck. This is why I don’t believe in the black pill. I’ve seen in front of my own eyes my friends that are 5’6/5’7, balding, overweight, making minimum wage able to consistently get into relationships. Obviously the women they get aren’t exactly models, but still. All of these guys are very outgoing and charismatic. And they happen to be in the right place in the right time.

EatingVowels · 2022-08-23T06:00:04+00:00

Bro.. take a few good pictures and download Tinder. From there it’s just a numbers game, write to every match you get, and you’ll eventually get to meet someone.

I look like dog shit and I’ve done four girls on Tinder since July.

Impossible-Bank-1697 · 2022-08-22T19:05:39+00:00

Likable, normal and decent.

Hodgkins_Fun_Alt · 2022-08-22T19:45:23+00:00

i think it’s pretty much a charisma and personality thing at the end of the day. some people just have an easier time getting other people to like them. “making friends” and “getting laid” are skillsets that are practically identical

Coolio_Street_Racer · 2022-08-22T21:33:35+00:00

Only dudes who have no observable value need to work hard. If you have value and women can see it. The game becomes 100x easier. You can treat women like trash and they will still worship the ground you walk on.

Personality matters too. But only if you are interacting with the same women frequently for a prolonged period of time, like 1-2 times a week for 2-3 months so she can actually see your personality. But most men just aren't mingling with the same single women 1-2 times a week for 2-3 months.

swaggyquack · 2022-08-23T07:00:58+00:00

Be good looking enough, be fun to be around, escalate things romantically through Flirting. It’s not really that hard. Tho people struggle with any of the steps and it suddenly Seems an impossible task.

tossa445 · 2022-08-22T21:33:03+00:00

I think the hardest part as an adult with a certain lifestyle is meeting women. I never had to try from childhood thru around 23 despite being about 130lb soaking wet with shoulder length hair and minimal aspirations. then it got harder but not impossible in the mid 20s without the youthful social circle and party lifestyle. Late 20s with WFH and no social circle in the city I'm based it's gotten very hard even though I'm well put together now with a good job and can do the >2x bodyweight s/d and 1.5x bench.

I just don't meet anyone new ever male or female and feels weird and inauthentic to join 'activities' for the sole purpose of meeting women.

rieleo · 2022-08-22T22:26:12+00:00

Be yourself. Live your life. Ask someone out. If they say yes, cool. If not, move on. Same advice for both men and women.

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sarkington · 2022-08-22T17:51:08+00:00

Looks, money, talent/skill, status/fame, or……being likable

iamatwork24 · 2022-08-22T19:38:20+00:00

When I was single, it always came very easy to me and I’ve never had to try very hard. I’m average height, keep myself in good shape and am considered conventionally handsome. More important than any of that, flirting has always come very easy to me and I can be quite charming when I want to. I’ve never subscribed to any of the pickup artist bullshit.

SuspiciousRule · 2022-08-22T19:50:35+00:00

Some people have a certain charisma idk.

TodTheRod01 · 2022-08-22T21:50:24+00:00

if you don't NATURALLY have game, and certain traits and characteristics....you need to develop them...inherently it is way more work than what women need to do which is be pleasant and not fat.

iLiveInAHologram94 · 2022-08-22T23:49:35+00:00

In my opinion there are only a few ways this happens. I'd say 90% of these situations is it happens when the woman wants it. She might just really want sex and be really horny.

Getting dates? When I was single I was genuinely interested in meeting men and getting to know them and find a potential partner. So I would talk to guys on dating apps and if we were vibing and had things in common and interesting conversations, we'd go on a date. And I never put too much pressure on myself, the date, or the guy. The point was just to eat and talk to someone and get to know him. From there I started seeing some of them (not at the same time like TRP likes to believe we do) and eventually had some relationships and yes sex out of it too. When I was ready and felt comfortable. Eventually I met a pretty special guy and now about a 1.5 year later he moved in. A problem with dating apps is a lot of people are on there for various reasons and some of them will not be in line with what you are looking for, and then out of the ones you are some will be moving away soon or in the process of divorce or healing from an addiction or have young children or whatever. So it's just about vetting people and having a clear idea of what you are looking for

JumboJetz · 2022-08-22T17:45:03+00:00

I mean, you only need 1 woman to say yes to an ongoing friend with benefit relationship and maintain that relationship to get regular sex technically.

BrummieAMN19 · 2022-08-22T19:41:06+00:00

They’re relying off luck, carrying themselves better than most men, or women choosing them.

Men who do something special are a part of 1-5% of men who have some form of game/seduction skills, whether learnt formally or they’re naturals. The rest will be relying on women picking them and luck honestly.

Complex-Glass-8539 · 2022-08-22T20:31:03+00:00

10+ girls a day is a bit much, but approaching is the name of the game my friend….and by approaching that doesn’t mean “to introduce myself and then ask for your socials” it means just flat out starting conversation with as many women as humanly possible, that’s it. The more conversations you have, the more you’ll pick up on social cues to see which girls are interested and it keeps rolling from there.

It’s the damn scientific method, have a hypothesis “if I act in this way, I’ll get a better reaction”, experiment it, see outcomes, change hypothesis, rinse, repeat ad nauseam.

The money and gym stuff is just going to up your responses. Honestly, significantly easier to do this than the OLD stuff, less emotional investment, and more fun in the process. Just takes pushing yourself out of your comfort zone.

Why_am_I_LikeThis27 · 2022-08-22T21:00:19+00:00

It just seems that way from the outside. You don't get to see what happened and so we fill in the blanks. The god of the gaps as they say. It's mostly in your ability to project confidence and be daring when the time is right. You gotta be ready to lose but learn from mistakes.

Where are your dates fizzling?

RealNiceLady · 2022-08-22T21:02:28+00:00

I'm glad OP mentioned this. The situation for men is not as bad as everyone says it is.

koolex · 2022-08-22T21:09:18+00:00

The big problem is a lot of them probably are single for long periods of time or with someone they are incompatible with because they didn't have a lot of options. So being bad at dating doesn't mean you'll be an incels necessarily but it might mean you end up with a shitty partner because you don't control your dating life.

Even worse they might stick it out in a bad marriage because they don't think they could do better, which is partly why women file for divorce more than men, women usually have an abundance mentality.

If these dudes did have a lot of options without effort then they are probably top tier dudes and you unlike the other 95% of men, and you have a very biased perception in your circle.

Moscow_Gordon · 2022-08-22T21:56:26+00:00

I know plenty of fat/ jobless / friendless guys who get girls or get laid without much efforts

If this was really true, it should be motivating for you. You are a higher value man, and should be able to do at least as well.

But honestly, I don't believe it. Cases where the guy just got really lucky are rare. You are either underestimating them (they have incredible charisma) or more likely overestimating their success (they are with unattractive women or just lying to you).

Neptune-Jr · 2022-08-22T22:07:48+00:00

It's all luck. Some people will have to try harder than others. because of location, culture, upbringing, and just straight up luck.

Truth_Antisocial · 2022-08-22T22:47:49+00:00

I know plenty of fat/ jobless / friendless guys who get girls or get laid without much efforts

I've lived in many cities in california, lived in NYC, traveled around the world and I'm... old, so I've seen a lot.

I've never known a guy as you describe, and I'm sorry, I simply don't believe you have either.

Conscious_Ad_6572 · 2022-08-22T23:30:50+00:00

selecting targets is a big deal, go for the average ones, Who are usually starved for attention

talk to a girl you can lead, you will Be better off

Gingersparadise · 2022-08-22T23:49:26+00:00

Step 1: stop overthinking it.

Men that go into something with an expectation of something often get led to disappointment.

No other steps needed after that.

CoffeeCryptoBag · 2022-08-23T00:59:28+00:00

Okay so the answer is charisma/confidence.
I could tell it was the reason some girls were after me.
I'm hesitant to use the word confidence because it's kind of misleading.
I'll give you a great example,
If you're in a group & you say something that everything questions or laughs at, the following moment is very defining...
If you can explain yourself in a way that causes everyone to suddenly realize you're making a very valid point, or to agree with you, or to even want to uplift your persona because they regret laughing at you.

Then you're scoring massively points & so much so, you'll even be able to tell from girl's eyes.

It shows you're able to inspire people.
It shows you're not afraid of putting your persona out there.
It shows you're able to lead people / entertain people while being humble.
(this is one is very hard, because it requires confronting challenges & the dark side of humanity while getting everyone to work together & agree)

Basically it shows a woman how much you have to offer her, how safe she's with you, without looking like a wimp.

BlackPorcelainDoll · 2022-08-23T02:28:16+00:00

Because he is a special man. Be special.

DXBrigade · 2022-08-23T08:05:00+00:00

Who said that you need to be a billionaire Chad to get laid ? I think it's a matter of confidence and having reasonable standards.

2022-08-23T08:28:07+00:00

Men are only loved under the condition he provides.

insertcredit2 · 2022-08-23T08:35:22+00:00

I was a late bloomer and going from below average to above average was like night and day when it came to interactions.

Willow-girl · 2022-08-23T11:24:52+00:00

Ernest Hemingway shares the recipe for the secret sauce in a short story titled "Summer People," in which he muses on how he is able to sleep with an attractive young lady who spurns another man who is deeply in love with her:

It wasn’t just love. Odgar thought just love would do it. Odgar loved her enough, God knows. It was liking, and liking the body, and introducing the body, and persuading, and taking chances, and never frightening, and assuming about the other person, and gentleness and liking, and making liking and happiness, and joking and making people not afraid. And making it all right afterwards. It wasn’t loving. Loving was frightening.

nemma88 · 2022-08-23T12:27:13+00:00

Some people are just magnetic, even without the looks. I believe it mostly to be confidence & charisma, and humor goes a long way too.

CptKillsteal · 2022-08-23T13:39:27+00:00

All you just said + being smooth with the ladies as another option.

Lisavela · 2022-08-23T17:44:28+00:00

I see a lot of unattractive guys getting laid they just have crazy confidence and are very charming.

gopher_glitz · 2022-08-23T22:17:24+00:00

A lot of it is circumstantial/luck. The same girl might rejected a guy on Sat at the club but fuck the same guy after her sisters wedding.

neolib-cowboy · 2022-08-24T07:40:36+00:00

Bc they're hot and confident. That's literally it

H8beingmale · 2022-08-29T02:23:51+00:00

i assume lots of them pay for sex

Latspread101 · 2022-09-02T22:47:14+00:00

Its just timing dude. No tricks

No_Mathematician8341 · 2022-09-06T04:54:43+00:00

because im very direct before i even meet up. they what i want to do. But they want me too so that makes it alot easier. Also im very aggressive and dominant so once i make that first move thats a wrap, After a couple of drinks i might already be in her throat lol fr I have a milf right now i havent even met up with yet that jokes about how she might have to use the bathroom different after how she knows i will stretch her out lol thats how you get laid without a date. Im goin to her house to have sum drinks lol

How do some guys get laid or dates without having to make much effort or doing anything special?

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2 is a catch-all for so many things that are basically the reason things like RP exist. What constitutes a "cool personality" and "good conversationalist"

Title	How do some guys get laid or dates without having to make much effort or doing anything special?
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Date	August 22, 2022 5:05 PM UTC (3 years ago)
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