I mainly work seasonal jobs at national parks and resorts around the US. People form fwb relationships at these jobs left and right. They also form what my friend calls "goldfish relationships" (exclusive, but they only last for a few months). In all this time, I have only met 2 virgin guys, and they both made everyone cringe and/or feel uncomfortable. They are named John and Willy.

I'll give a quick rundown on these dudes to illustrate my point.

John was 19 when I met him, and the furthest he had ever gotten was a drunk makeout session with a girl back home. John was from Texas. He was very nice. He wore jeans, a denim jacket, a cowboy hat, cowboy boots, and a Black Sabbath shirt most days out of the week. He did some decent metal work, both practical and artistic. John was a shorter, thinner guy, but he has an alright face. You're probably saying "this guy has a look, and he's young. What's the issue?" The issue is that John was desperate and easily manipulated. He would crush on the first pretty girl he saw for weeks at a time, trying to make her like him with gifts and rides and services. He literally got pased over for a promotion for making extra room keys to impress some girl. He remained a virgin all through the season, but I heard he had sex a few months after. It didn't change his behavior or results the next season though.

Willy is the nega-John who still can't get laid. He is in his mid 20's. He's loud, obnoxious, and cracks jokes left and right. He's a ski bum. His interests are video games, skiing, and smoking weed. He is short and has a very weak chin. He treats women like objects. If you tell him a story that involves a girl, he will ask you if she was hot. In his own words (I heard the story day 1), the best day of his life was when he went to a strip club VIP room, ate a stripper's pussy, and came in his pants. He paid $200 for that experience. Willy is boring and desperate. I tried to help him by suggesting real hobbies or just toning back the obnoxious sexist stuff, but he didn't want to hear it.

I genuinely believe that the vast majority of guys have too much John or Willy in them. They don't have real interests. They don't have true independence in their heads. They are easily manipulated. The vast majority of women dry up hard when presented with such a man. They do not want a toy that does whatever they say. They do not want some boring dude. They do not want a guy who has no success with women. Even Dommes usually want a strong man with a mind of his own because a weak man is no challenge to her iron will, and a lack of challenge makes things tedious.

Young dudes need to work on improving themselves beyond just looks to hold any woman's attention longer than a few weeks. Yeah, you can say "doesn't matter, had sex," and I'll give you that, but casual encounters won't give you family life, kids, or someone to come home to at the end of the day. Dudes need to be whole people before women will give them any real time. Have opinions, read books, have hobbies, work on conversational skills, learn comedic timing, have concerns and desires beyond pussy, and learn medically-accurate female anatomy so you can actually satisfy a lady once you get her.

I'll say what I think about young women next time I make one of these

Tl;dr: the title

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