Promiscuity and casual sex is unfair to men therefore men are 100% justified in not dating promiscuous women. Which is 100% about personality and not looks.

Steakman1 · 2022-10-12T02:02:47+00:00

As the great philosopher u/bilpinne once said in your last post you made on this: “Men should date whoever they want/can get. Good luck.”

mightymorphinnyla · 2022-10-12T03:50:04+00:00

Exclude whoever you want from your dating pool. No one cares.

gate18 · 2022-10-12T10:42:36+00:00

Promiscuity and casual sex is unfair to men therefore men are 100% justified in not dating promiscuous women. Which is 100% about personality and not looks.

You don't need a justification not to want to date. But then don't turn around and bitch about it.

I read an article by a woman that said she didn't date men that play video games. She said that men should grow up. Men in the comments tried to convince her she was wrong. I was like, "fine, don't date men like me, what does that have to do with me?"

so women who in engage in casual sex and dating and forgoe A partner who seem like a better fit for marriage are not being fair to men

I never understand this. Like the woman that spoke against videogame. She said things like "we need men to grow up, we need them to stop playing videogames because marriage is hard work", and I'm like, there are plenty of married people that have time to play videogames, why does this woman not just find a man that hates videogames as much as she does (they exist) and stop writing to practically no one.

Take 10 women that engage in casual sex and tell them they are being unfair to men. Take 10 men that play video games and tell them they are being unfair to women. Surely they'd be confused. It's like taking men and women that are married and telling them they are being unfair for having taken themself off the market (technically true, I guess, but meaning so women who in engage in casual sex and dating and forgoe A partner who seem like a better fit for marriage are not being fair to men)

Why should any sane man take a woman who behaves in a way that is unfair to men

Because he likes that woman. And other men aren't his brothers!

The man's own sexual history here is not relevant to whether promiscuous women are treating men collectively fairly or not.

You have no clue whether a woman treats men collectively unfairly. What constitutes unfair?

Also are we talking about lesbians? Because else, the men that are giving these women sex aren't giving a fuck about other men. Which is obvious and human.

BreezyBritt89 · 2022-10-12T10:40:48+00:00

That’s great man, date who you want.

What do you want us to say? Do you want us to say we cry ourselves to sleep at night because you aren’t interested in dating us? That is absolutely not the case. If she’s “promiscuous” then she already has men lined up.

IntegrityDJones · 2022-10-12T04:20:14+00:00

Just… date who you want and has the same values. This isn’t rocket science. Don’t want a promiscuous girl? Don’t date one! Problem solved and it costs you absolutely nothing to not date a girl you don’t want!

mistressusa · 2022-10-12T06:52:58+00:00

Since "virtually all woman at some point at least when they were younger" engaged in casual sex, so "Why should any sane man take a woman who behaves in a way that is unfair to men"?

Great question, OP. Which is why the end of humanity is near. Lol

Plus, also why you are not dating. At least not women, anyway.

_revelationary · 2022-10-12T02:22:35+00:00

If we are debating with the logical capacity of 7th graders, allow me to attempt to CYV:

The concept of sex is unfair to women, who have to deal with unpleasant things like periods, risk of pregnancy and childbirth, and sexually violent men. So women are 100% justified in behaving however they want on a planet where they were given a pretty lame deal, and men will mostly be fine with it because they can never know a woman’s sexual history for sure, and sometimes they will have no other choice if they don’t want to be lonely forever.

ClaraBow01 · 2022-10-12T04:09:41+00:00

Let’s pretend this notion that sex is so easy for women is accurate. So what? Should basketball associations not hire tall people, because it’s unfair to short people? This is literally the definition of envy. Because you can’t or don’t want to try to do something, then anyone who can should be shamed.

MyLastBestChance · 2022-10-12T02:19:17+00:00

Anyone is 100% justified in not dating anyone they don’t want to date for any reason or no reason at all🤷‍♀️.

If you’re practicing your explanations for when the dating police come to get you, I have awesome news for you, no one cared the last time you posted this stuff and nothing about that has changed so👍. You do you, cupcake!

Cat_Lover259 · 2022-10-12T05:29:55+00:00

Imagine if this concept was flipped around: Men are the “more promiscuous” ones and women only want virgin men. It would be a true war zone.

NakedStreets · 2022-10-12T02:28:24+00:00

women who in engage in casual sex and dating and forgoe A partner who seem like a better fit for marriage are not being fair to men

How is this unfair to men?

techr0nin · 2022-10-12T02:05:52+00:00

lol. It’s called sexual competition, and not sexual socialism. By your logic men that engage in casual sex are also not being fair to other men, and yet why should they stop fucking because some men out there can’t get laid?

Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 · 2022-10-12T09:35:50+00:00

Sir , you can't make women date whom they don't want to date. No amount of manipulation is going to change the facts.

FYI men getting laid don't care that other men are not getting laid.

medlabunicorn · 2022-10-12T10:47:57+00:00

🙄 ‘Casual sex is unfair to men,’

Say then men constantly demanding casual sex.

CommieRedEyes · 2022-10-12T08:48:06+00:00

Another post about female promiscuity? Must be a day that ends in “y”

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2022-10-12T10:20:14+00:00

Here’s the thing,

DATE WHO YOU WANT

It’s fine if men don’t want to date a woman for any reason it’s fine it a woman doesn’t want to date a man for any reason

JediNinja232459 · 2022-10-12T02:00:33+00:00

By 'men' do you mean 'all men' or 'most men' or 'some men, but not most men'?

InfamousBake1859 · 2022-10-12T05:18:42+00:00

Unfair? What are you smoking? If your values are different , sure. But if you wish you could be promiscuous but don’t have the chance and you find that unfair, you don’t exactly have differing values… you are just envious.

I also am not sure if men have the power in marriage. Women are fine being alone. I’d rather die single than marry a guy like you.

_demidevil_ · 2022-10-12T07:52:39+00:00

So women are supposed to limit themselves sexually to make the playing field “fair” to men? Absolutely not. It’s kind of an “if I cant have it then you can’t have it” attitude which is very immature and frankly negative.

Demasii · 2022-10-12T02:55:58+00:00

Women have much more power in the casual sex and casual dating market than men do.

That men gave them by choice.

Men have the most power in marriage. so women who in engage in casual sex and dating and forgoe A partner who seem like a better fit for marriage are not being fair to men.

Takes two to tango. To have casual sex and date the men must engage in it too. It's mutually beneficial.

Why should any sane man take a woman who behaves in a way that is unfair to men seriously unless he doesnt have better options or isnt very smart?

It's not unfair because men engage in it too. Takes two to tango.

The man's own sexual history here is not relevant to whether promiscuous women are treating men collectively fairly or not.

Men gets the same benefits.

Miserable_Yam4778 · 2022-10-12T04:21:05+00:00

You are entitled to have whatever standards work for you. Literally nobody on earth is required to abide by said standards, and even if they do, it's very much possible they won't find you attractive.

I personally have never participated in casual sex, but I find men who are judgemental about it viscerally repulsive. There is a fear of judgment and a conformity to the attitude that is instinctively gross to me.

Want whatever you want. Don't piss and moan when you can't find it. Simple.

januaryphilosopher · 2022-10-12T08:42:28+00:00

The only way that casual sex is unfair to men is that there isn't a big enough supply of women who want casual sex for men to have all the casual sex they want. If you want things to be fairer, you've got to encourage that behaviour by treating promiscuous women better rather than refusing to date them, so more women will choose to have casual sex. But it was never about fairness.

cdreh0 · 2022-10-12T02:33:23+00:00

Life experiences between the genders will never be fair. Equality is nearly achieved in western societies and men hate it. More news at the 10 o'clock hour.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2022-10-12T02:22:11+00:00

Me: “why are you with me?”

Wife (who almost never swears): Because I fucking love you

You aren’t gonna find logic in it. And maybe that’s why some people can’t wrap their heads around it. But that thing called love: that’s why.

neetykeeno · 2022-10-12T08:10:20+00:00

Men don't have better options. That's the reality. You're not good enough at being men for the majority of women to choose to put their entire selves to the side to please you when they are very young. Sorry. Not good enough

Just like men do, women want some of their youth for themselves for their own purposes be it exploration or study or to try out a few careers or ways of life or to get on track financially. And just like men do, most women want to be sexually active during that time. Definitely the ones with a healthy sex drive want to have sex during that time.

You don't have a better option than to choose from among those women who will have you. And if the only women who will have you and are attractive to you have also run through a few guys well that's life dude. The path out of this was years back when you could have paid more attention, worked harder, and locked down whatever low count girl would have had you at the time.You didn't take that path... maybe the girls who would have had you then on those terms weren't pretty enough maybe you were too shy...or get this... maybe you too weren't keen on giving up your youth and freedom so soon.

You snooze you lose. Life is full of hard decisions about what to do and what to miss out on. FOMO is a call to be brave not a pit of despair to wallow in.

Moving finger writes and having writ. You've got what you chose.

fakingandnotmakingit · 2022-10-12T17:15:04+00:00

Have your standards, women are allowed to think it's dumb and not like you for it.

Go your seperate ways. Done.

DplusLplusKplusM · 2022-10-12T17:40:29+00:00

Spoken as if it isn't men that these "promiscuous" (straight) women are having sex with. If heterosexual men didn't partake in promiscuity - and assumedly enjoy it - there would be far fewer women sleeping around. Maybe you need to take up this point with other guys (since they're the ones providing the means for women to have active sex lives).

BreezyBritt89 · 2022-10-12T08:16:29+00:00

I don’t know why promiscuity and casual sex is unfair to men?. Every time a girl has sex…..a man is benefiting from it….promiscuity means more men are having sex. What’s the unfair advantage?

richard_golbes · 2022-10-12T05:02:52+00:00

so women who in engage in casual sex and dating and forgoe A partner who seem like a better fit for marriage are not being fair to men. which is virtually all woman at some point at least when they were younger.

Nope. Source?

kindParodox · 2022-10-12T03:08:09+00:00

If you put power dynamics into casual sex I think you're missing it's point.

bunnakay · 2022-10-12T03:25:04+00:00

How is casual sex unfair to men?

KirthWGersen · 2022-10-12T07:32:54+00:00

What you mean is, promiscuity and casual sex are unfair to you.

For many men they are absolutely wonderful.

You adapting to the world is likely to be a lot more successful than expecting the world to adapt to you.

palatine09 · 2022-10-12T06:12:57+00:00

I’ve never got this, these woman are having sex with men. It’s the same number of men and woman having sex.

WilliamWyattD · 2022-10-12T06:34:01+00:00

This is so off base. Men do not necessarily have the most power in marriage, for one. Moreover, a healthy culture isn't necessarily about trying to balance leverage in the dating market. It is about finding a solution to the need to create children and healthy environments to bring them up in. Now, you also want to do so in a way that requires relatively equal sacrifices from each gender overall, while providing equal benefits.

That is a way different lens to be looking at things through that trying to balance sexual leverage in the current Western sexual marketplace.

Return_of_Hoppetar · 2022-10-12T10:25:52+00:00

What you gonna do with it? You are "justified" not dating whoever you want. There is nothing wrong with that. It doesn't need to be "justified" by casual sex being unfair to anyone. I'm not into people who smell bad. Am I obliged to give myself to someone who smells bad because I have no "justification" not to? That's bollocks. Just date who you want.

However, what good does it do to anyone if you don't date them? You'll still be single, they'll date someone else. What's the point? I hope your moral haughtitude makes you feel all that better when you sit alone in your room and masturbate.

2022-10-12T12:01:00+00:00

Why would we not want to date promiscuous women? Should we only date women who won't have sex?

TheGoldenChampion · 2022-10-12T16:37:31+00:00

People just in general should not be promiscuous. Sex and relationships should be a serious matter.

Scared-Move122 · 2022-10-12T19:18:42+00:00

Every single day , not a one. Where this topic isnt discussed.

Logical-Confection-7 · 2022-10-12T04:06:01+00:00

This hurst my brain. Such a lame ass argument. So, women shouldn’t get married to men because is easier for them to marry and so if they pass on faithful relationship for sleeping with many women are they being collectively unfair to women?

Also, what does it means you are promiscuous? Cause if we control for the number of options men have, women sleep with very few of their options while men sleep with anyone available. Shouldn’t that be taken into the equation?

And what if it is easy for them? How does that affect you? Is this for revenge? Or like if I can’t have it nobody can’t so I am going to penalize them for what they can have an i don’t? Doesn’t make sense for me.

You can just say it as it is. I see women as something you get and it isn’t as fun if someone else got it before I did.

Demasii · 2022-10-12T01:55:51+00:00

Still struggling with that dictionary?

It takes two to tango.

goatismycopilot · 2022-10-12T02:29:01+00:00

LALALALALALALALALALALA. 100%.

Long-Review-1861 · 2022-10-12T10:26:07+00:00

Lol my brother is a divorce lawyer, men definitely don't have the power in marriage

Crafty_Letter_1719 · 2022-10-12T14:03:40+00:00

Woman engaging in casual sex is not “unfair to men” just like certain Men choosing not to date promiscuous Woman is not “unfair” to Woman.

mib732 · 2022-10-12T14:03:53+00:00

I am not a proponent of casual sex, but the thing is, one of the best solutions is not to support Feminism.

SoIlikeMangos · 2022-10-12T14:41:07+00:00

You're acting like promiscuous women are throwing themselves on you. Who cares

Supreme_Salt_Lord · 2022-10-12T15:18:34+00:00

Lmao geeeze. Its 100% fair to men. We all have our chance at getting a woman to casually date or hookup. Play your strengths and make yourself attractive.

Choice_Ad_6230 · 2022-10-12T16:17:43+00:00

Most men should be doing this anyway. We are just so afraid of sticking to our standards and thirsty for female attention.

If more men had the will to not bend or break on their standards, women would get starved of the attention they often dont deserve.

alphasupremacy5555 · 2022-10-12T17:12:41+00:00

Most men don't have power in marriage they have power in the relationship before a wedding engagement happens but not in marriage. That's what women have to control she can file for divorce anytime she wants after a year. If she cheats and he finds out if she's so she's fit she can keep on cheating and if he divorces or she divorces he loses all the way around. So no most men don't have power in marriage.

delight-n-angers · 2022-10-12T19:27:33+00:00

Men are allowed to like whatever they want. The problem is that they harp on it constantly online and then blame/hate women when they can't get what they want.

Bro, I promise you nobody gives a single flying fuck about what your dating preferences are no matter how stupid, delusional, or hypocritical they might be until you start shouting about them from the roof tops and acting like a fucking asshole to women. At that point you're inviting commentary on your stupid preferences.

Keep that shit to yourself, and I promise it won't ever matter.

2022-10-12T02:55:00+00:00

Yeah. I agree. If you cant get casual sex consider yourself a low value male and any future marriage proposals are going to be based on your bank account. Now it's upto you to choose whom to handle your resources n time,,, someone who rejected you or likes of you or someone who never dated.

hari_hbp · 2022-10-12T08:34:43+00:00

Thanks man, needed that laugh today.

2022-10-12T03:06:31+00:00

Wasn't the same thing asked earlier tonight?

Men may choose a non-chaste woman who is extremely attractive in other ways, because higher value men scoop up the ones who are both chaste and attractive in the other ways.

It's a compromise. And how is casual sex unfair to men in general? This doesn't make any sense. Maybe some men find it unfair, others love it.

nemma88 · 2022-10-12T11:35:50+00:00

Why should any sane man take a woman who behaves in a way that is unfair to men seriously unless he doesnt have better options or isnt very smart?

The definition of sanity isn't prescribing to u/Ok-Cupcake-2854 's ideas of fairness. You have established you think it's unfair. Not everyone thinks like you. Sure, maybe they're just not smart, in which case they're perhaps diving in their league so what's the problem?

Some men do not care, for some men getting sex is easier than it is for the average women and they're certainly not going to think it's unfair.

This entire argument is guys are stupid if they don't value or believe the same things I do, in an attempt to shame men to comply with your values and beliefs, to in turn adjust the behavior of women.

pan3639 · 2022-10-12T15:18:00+00:00

Women want to have their cake and eat it to. It's ok for them to reject countless guys while riding the cc, but as soon as one of those guys says he prefers a woman who didn't do this, he's labeled insecure or whatever bullshit buzzword these projecting 304s like to throw around.

urukshai3 · 2022-10-12T13:28:41+00:00

Men's advantage now is precisely they do not have to have children with promiscuous and unfaithful women. Men even convinced them it is "powerful" and "empowering" for them to kill their own babies.

Funny how women support all the stuff that precisely benefit men that want to strings attached and make them more depressed and dependent on Xanax.

purplenelly · 2022-10-13T18:07:29+00:00

Except beggars can't be choosers. If you're a man who hasn't had sex, you are most likely a beggar. It has no importance that you declare you will not date promiscuous women. You're already the unwanted men. It's like imagine the men that nobody is attracted to banding together and saying "we refuse to date promiscuous women". Okay...

And also, women choosing to sleep with some men and not others isn't a feminist or men's rights issue. You are men competing against other men. You are not unfairly disadvantaged because of your gender. You are a man just like every other man. It's not women's fault if the other men are more competitive than you.

carritotaquito · 2022-10-12T19:33:06+00:00

If men think it's unfair, instead of complaining then they should level up.

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pussandra · 2022-10-12T12:38:00+00:00

Someone who is theorizing about alleged power in what should be an equal partnership is unlikely to be a mature fulfilling partner anyway

meanwhileinvermont · 2022-10-12T13:39:56+00:00

bro, what kind of deranged incel take is this

MC-Purp · 2022-10-12T13:44:41+00:00

A Fairness argument? Bruh. This sub put up some pretty dumb stuff from a man’s perspective, like the daily Virgin vs. Normal women debate, or Men having kids with a Surrogate nonsense. But come on OP, “it’s not fair” that women have more potential sexual partners. Men are horribly representing themselves here.

blockboii190 · 2022-10-12T14:33:20+00:00

🤡

EugeneCezanne · 2022-10-12T14:54:10+00:00

Men have the most power in marriage

So, by this logic, women should not marry men.

In fact, it's even worse than promiscuity, since marriage is potentially for life. Why should any sane woman take a man who behaves unfairly to women?

rrrattt · 2022-10-12T14:58:25+00:00

This person is literally posting the exact same posts over and over again. I think they have a bit of an obsession to say the least lol.

dieselkratos · 2022-10-12T15:38:17+00:00

I’m dead on this hill

MiddleZealousideal89 · 2022-10-12T22:42:11+00:00

You can date whoever you want, dude. If some lady that you think was unfair to men wants to date you, you're free to not date her. Nobody is forcing you to date these unfair women. Nobody is forcing you to date anyone. You can stay single forever if that's what you want. And if you want to date, great, date people you like and who like you back. What is the point of your post anyway? Nobody is forcing men to date women, are you just complaining that women being able to turn down guys is mean and you don't like it?

Also - how do you define ''unfair''? Because I can say that men are unfair to women because they won't date the ugliest, fattest, stupidest women out there. Who decides who is a ''better fit for marriage''? You? You just sound like a bitter guy complaining about a non-issue , that issue being ''I don't want to date because women are mean''. Okay, don't date then.

pikecat · 2022-10-13T00:05:30+00:00

Promiscuity and casual sex

This worked out well for me. I had more than one girl interested in me at plenty of times, so it was really up to me to apportion my limited attention.

Do you think that we should go back to the 50s.

I think that you only care when someone else is getting more than you, and you resent it.

Stunning-Potato-1984 · 2022-10-13T14:27:38+00:00

Lol unfair.

fuckinpiss · 2022-10-14T03:06:55+00:00

You are definitely right about women having more power in casual sex because I’ve seen men have sex with some questionable women (I mean belligerent, obnoxious, annoying, unattractive women get laid with no effort).

I’m not exactly clear on what ur saying to be honest. But I don’t think it’s exactly right. Like women who r single but Pursue casual dating and sex don’t necessarily turn down men they would have perfect relationships with. I’m sure a lot of them want LTRs but they have their own issues. Like I would like to be in an LTR but it hasn’t happened for a few years but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to go out and date men. That’s the only way to meet the right guy to get into an LTR. Soemtimes ur not right for them or they aren’t right for you. I feel like most people want relationships but they just aren’t over someone or they can’t find the right person. But that’s just my experience with talking to other people.

Scarypaperplates · 2022-10-15T00:00:44+00:00

The man's own sexual history here is not relevant to whether promiscuous women are treating men collectively fairly or not.

Theres a really simple solution here, if men do not want to date promiscuous women, thats fine as long as they practise what they preach. You cant be part of the problem and then complain theres a problem.

Adventurous-Hawk-235 · 2022-12-17T20:45:50+00:00

I don't think there's anything wrong with not liking promiscuous women, provided you aren't being offensive about it to the women in question. I think that there are plenty of valid reasons why a man wouldn't want to date a woman with a high body count and vice-versa (though a lot of women apparently see a high body count in men as "proof of skill"). I do think that wanting a virgin is a bit unrealistic these days though. Most men and women have sex with at least one person by the time they're 22, and I doubt that all of the men who demand virgins are virgins themselves.

Longmammal · 2022-12-30T15:14:05+00:00

Body count is over 100. Happily married for 14 years with two kids. Cry about it.

Title	Promiscuity and casual sex is unfair to men therefore men are 100% justified in not dating promiscuous women. Which is 100% about personality and not looks.
Author	Ok-Cupcake-2854
Upvotes	61
Comments	385
Date	October 12, 2022 1:51 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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