Advice geared towards men is circular and designed to drive you insane

beautyloser · 2025-07-05T18:54:14+00:00

OP was banned for admitting he is an incel.

Dertross · 2025-07-02T16:18:59+00:00

When you are failing they say your flaws are why you're failing.
When you're succeeding they say your merits are why you succeeded.

Even you were the exact same person with the exact same qualities in both cases.

What's the name for this? Confirmation Bias? Texas Sharpshooter Fallacy?

Hard_Corsair · 2025-07-02T17:10:39+00:00

Some of the advice is contradictory because you're trying to satisfy contradictory desires in other people.

YeaNobody · 2025-07-03T00:39:56+00:00

Because it's more beneficial on a monetary basis to keep us so heavily divided and segregated.

Alternative_Cod2280 · 2025-07-02T17:08:42+00:00

No shit, most of these advices are either same old platitudes, shit they wouldn't follow themselves or worse when the followed advice doesn't work, never did and never will.

Really most people who give advices just do it to save the face or make themselves feel better about getting something the person who asked or complain can't have.

ilikecats18851 · 2025-07-03T09:52:23+00:00

The worst part is the constant just world fallacy towards men. You must be mean, or even just evil. Just straight up evil. Never mind the hybristophilia

Starcraft_III · 2025-07-02T17:30:55+00:00

I’ll say the last one seems pretty true to me but also to not have anything to do with men’s dating advice. People are often accused of being unconfident for basically acknowledging they have flaws and things they need to improve on, and then they try to discuss those topics on forums about that kind of thing, and people there act like that’s what they’re talking to potential partners about - obviously not, people know to put their best foot forward.

Silver_Past2313 · 2025-07-02T23:15:40+00:00

I think a lot of men are thinking what this post is saying, however about the whole tightrope even after the gas lighting:

Brother in my very limited relationship experience how good of dick you can bring is practically all that matters. Idk if that's comforting or what but yeah after all of that just fuck like a beast and there's not a tightrope. Love chemicals are hardcore.

SnooHabits1442 · 2025-07-03T00:04:30+00:00

The one that drives me insane the most is “just be confident” dude… can u fucking elaborate? What constitutes a display of confidence and how am I lacking? That’s like if someone asked you “how did you win that 100 yard dash? Are there any particular training exercises you had beforehand?” “…I just had faith” like bro… okay… thanks.

themfluencer · 2025-07-02T16:19:46+00:00

The big thing is to establish a healthy daily routine that you love. Unfortunately the truth of the matter is that people who are physically and mentally healthy have a better chance of finding healthy relationships.

-SidSilver- · 2025-07-02T20:05:55+00:00

Sort of. It's eugenics and social darwinism, designed to keep you out of the gene pool. Which is gross and toxic.

Lemon_gecko · 2025-07-02T14:56:54+00:00

It's not that advice designed to make you crazy. It's just that there all kind of people giving it and of course listening to all will be crazy. Find men who are successful in a way you want to be and follow their advice. Find women who you want to attract and listen to what they say. Others are not your problem. Or you can think about it and decide if you want it or not.

ShivasRightFoot · 2025-07-02T15:03:00+00:00

You may be interested in knowing there is a body of scientific literature showing Women have a strong preference against hearing contradicting ideas. Particularly one study shows that women are significantly more likely to "not justify my political beliefs to someone who disagrees with me;" "often feel uncomfortable when people argue about politics;" and disagree that they "have no problem revealing my political beliefs, even to someone who would disagree with me."

Coffé, Hilde, and Catherine Bolzendahl. "Avoiding the subject? Gender gaps in interpersonal political conflict avoidance and its consequences for political engagement." British Politics 12 (2017): 135-156.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Descriptive-gender-gaps-in-political-conflict-avoidance-a-I-would-rather-not-justify_fig1_303835617

Here is another study that shows women are more likely to avoid expressing political opinions, even in anonymous academic surveys. This seems to definitively eliminate a theory that women do not express opinions due to physical intimidation.

Rae Atkeson, Lonna, and Ronald B. Rapoport. "The more things change the more they stay the same: Examining gender differences in political attitude expression, 1952–2000." Public opinion quarterly 67.4 (2003): 495-521.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3521691

A very recent one that shows "gender gaps [in political participation] are better understood as a product of men’s comparatively higher levels of enjoyment of arguments and disagreements."

Wolak, Jennifer. "Conflict avoidance and gender gaps in political engagement." Political behavior 44.1 (2022): 133-156.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11109-020-09614-5

Of course there are more that you can find cited in these papers, particularly the latest paper which can link you into the most recent research in the area.

Present-Interest-975 · 2025-07-02T14:56:50+00:00

I think that most of the dating advice everyone gives any gender is pretty circular in all honesty. While I do think that aspects of dating today are trickier for men, women also get contradictory advice. I don't think there's any nefarious motive or conspiracy behind it - I think it's just that different things have worked for different people, so it's hard to know who to listen to.

This is why I don't give dating advice, I've never "dated" so anything I say will be unhelpful to most people. I met my partner when we were teenagers so it would just be "be in the same friend group and wear a jacket so that she can steal it at parties"

GrouchNslouch777 · 2025-07-03T02:19:05+00:00

Yes. Because the lesson is: NEVER EVER show weakness as a man.

Gravel_Roads · 2025-07-02T15:06:51+00:00

None of the things you listed are a contradiction. The one thing RP and BP agree on is this:

Be attractive. Don’t be unattractive.

It’s attractive to be fit. It’s not attractive if your whole life is about going to the gym.

No one said don’t approach at clubs or bars, just be graceful and pay attention to whether the woman is open to approach.

Women CAN’T sense your personality through an app. That doesn’t mean you should immediately start trauma dumping and assume that it’ll make a woman love you.

This post makes it sound like you might struggle with moderation and self awareness.

kvakerok_v2 · 2025-07-03T04:58:16+00:00

Coming to women for advice lol, whenever did that work?

ResponsibilityAny217 · 2025-07-02T16:24:51+00:00

Yeah I also think all of the advice and voices can make u crazy, this is a big advantage that TBP has over TRP if u live ur life according to TBP u are more likely to get a happy satisfying life even if u don't get a partner. Bc at least u did a bunch of stuff u actually genuinely/authentically liked and wanted to do.

If u live according to TRP and still fail, what was the point. You did a bunch of stuff u didn't want/like to do and got nothing out of it.

What happens if u get a job u hate so u can make 6-figures, go to the gym for hours everyday and get a 6 pack, supress/ignore your emotions till u are completely stoic and still get no women ?

That must be so hollowing, I think that would be more hollowing than no relationship.

And even if u do get a relationship it's a relationship that u know that if u break out of tiny box u caged urself in(to find purpose and a zest for life and humanity), the relationship would likely end, is a HVW really going to be with u if u get fat, bald or sick ? What about if u lose ur job and other material items ? What about if u are vulnerable will she get the ick ?

It must be so hard to sign up for something and knowingly live a lie/ always be performing.

TopShelfSnipes · 2025-07-02T16:12:06+00:00

Gym

Gym advice is mostly for fat and scrawny people, not average people. It can help a little bit, however, even for average people, but it can be overdone. The key is to train like an athlete, not a bodybuilder. You don't even need weight machines to do it. You can literally buy a few dumbbells and do isometric/bodyweight exercises and stretching at home, and gain muscle definition provided you eat right.

Also, most of the people these days telling men to hit the gym are...guys.

There's more to working out than just bodybuilding. Most women aren't interested in the bodybuilder physique. The guys that hit the gym and just move from weight machine to weight machine aren't really doing themselves much after the first few weeks.

Working out also isn't really a social activity. If something happens or someone seems receptive, you can talk to them What people object to is going up to random strangers who are going about their business to "shoot your shot."

OLD

OLD is pretty much terrible. Women looking for serious relationships have grown disillusioned from it, and many of the women are bots, OF spam accounts, or looking for hookups outside their social circle. The people who are looking for relationships on there tend to be damaged in some way that they don't have better options, similar to men.

If a guy is in his 20s, he should be cultivating several core friend groups and going out a lot with them. Doesn't even have to be bars. Just...make plans. Join a coed sports team, connect with your college buddies, if you live in a major city get a good roommate, go to concerts, go to dinners, make friends at work. And go do things with them. Everybody's single or at least not married at that age, so you'll meet lots of people. And that's the key. Talk to everyone, see if you hit it off with anyone you're attracted to, flirt, banter, obtain some way of communicating, and keep the convo going without becoming 'besties.' Then, if you think you're interested, ask her out. If she says no or is noncommital, put it out of your mind and move on. If she says yes, great, plan a great date and go out with her.

This is far better than approaching random women you have no connection with just because you think they look "hot" and trying to get numbers and dates. If you see someone often enough, you can try to build a connection first, but show that you have at least some standards before asking her out - otherwise you just come off desperate.

In 30s and beyond, it gets harder since most people aren't going out all the time. But instead of trying dating apps, try social apps designed to create happy hours where you can meet new people. Singles will be drawn to these typically.

And FFS if you do get a date, stop obsessing over what other men are doing, or what she did with other men.

Whining

Nobody successful wants to hear whining. At all. Doesn't matter if it's about your job, your dating life, your insecurities, politics, whatever. Part of growing up is learning how to manage these feelings without dumping on someone else. The purpose of dating is to have fun with the woman you're on a date with, and see if you two can build a connection. In no way shape or form is whining relevant to that.

Personality

Yes, a personality is best assessed IRL, which is why you should get things off of screens as much as possible. Meet people IRL, schedule phone calls or voice chats, make plans. Stop endlessly texting and messaging, and stop putting yourself in situations where that's all you have.

DellOptiplex7080 · 2025-07-02T17:15:52+00:00

Your problem is generalized advice. The solution is to have friends.

beautyloser · 2025-07-02T14:56:51+00:00

It’s almost like…women aren’t a monolith and there is no One True Way to attract them. What makes one woman happy will offend another. What one woman seeks in a partner is a red flag to another.

Think about your values and habits and what your ideal woman’s values and habits are—craft your strategy around that. If you’re a gym head, hitting on women at the gym might actually be a good strategy for you.

UnpredictableDemise8 · 2025-07-02T15:26:29+00:00

A advice is a advice, not a set-in-stone solution. It can help you try something different or reveal new possibilities, but it won't directly help you find a surefire path to your goal.

wtknight · 2025-07-02T15:03:35+00:00

People give different advice. I met my wife online, but done women would never meet a man whom they contacted online first and only want to meet people in real life social groups. Different people prefer different things. Individual men just need to not follow advice and to instead just experiment and see what works better and what works worse for them.

ThatBitchA · 2025-07-02T15:05:00+00:00

The advice is simple: don't make pursuing pussy your entire identity. It makes you look desperate.

If every choice you make to join a club, to go to gym, is to secure some pussy, well that's fucking desperate.

So the advice is to do things for yourself. For own enjoyment.

Join the chess club because you like chess and want to play more with others.

Joining the chess club because you want pussy is desperate. Nobody wants the desperate guy who can't do anything for his own enjoyment.

wheatgrass_feetgrass · 2025-07-02T15:24:45+00:00

I met my wife through a mutual friend. We were just living our lives, not trying to meet people romantically, and encountered each other. This is how people are supposed to meet, and it's how most love match relationships have happened over the course of our species. Dating advice is always going to be a bit paradoxical. Yes there are certain things that can help you improve your odds, but as soon as you are doing something with the specific purpose of romantic success, you are actually changing that thing; often in a way that directly sabotages it's impact on dating.

For example. Working out is good for everyone but particularly men. Period. Mental health, physical health, confidence, discipline, etc. That is a general truth. But working out in order to get a date is NOT good. The benefits of working out that I listed are developed when you are working out for yourself. Add the motivation of working out in order to get something different out of it and suddenly it's poisoned. You can't get confidence from working out when you are only working out to get laid and you aren't getting laid. That's a confidence killer! So it's a paradox. You need to work out to have a better chance with women but if you work out TO GET a better chance with women, you negate the effects.

Lather rinse repeat with most other dating advice. As soon as you get a certain job, pick up a certain hobby, or go to certain places with the express purpose in mind of finding a girlfriend, all of those things will almost certainly not work for finding a girlfriend. You bring your intent to the situation and intent matters soooo much. It colors every minute detail of everything you do, as well as your interpretation of the experience doing it. You have to literally stop "trying". Don't stop trying to become more well rounded, don't stop trying to meet people in general, don't stop trying to become the ideal partner that you want to bring to a relationship, etc.

One of the most unattractive characteristics in another person is desperation. Desperation makes people dangerous. It is instinctively responded to with suspicion and caution. Being romantically desperate makes dating harder. Just like being financially desperate makes finding a job harder. You have to job hunt like you already have a job, you have to date like you're already married. Just be out in the world, meeting people just to meet them, picking up hobbies because you wanna do the thing, working out because you feel like a goddamned warrior after. And yeah, go on dates if you can, let your friends know you're single in case they might know anyone, and then just live. It feels like shitty advice because it's so indirect and unactionable but it's the only thing I've seen consistently work.

I think you were venting not looking for advice so you'll probably dismiss this comment without really reading it and I give you advance permission to do so. That's fine. So much garbage advice out there it makes sense to lose trust.

attendquoi · 2025-07-02T15:50:09+00:00

I'm so excited to be here for the day you realized that not all women like the same men lol

AngeAware · 2025-07-02T15:23:30+00:00

Are you referring to advice from the internet in general?

Social media is the ultimate "too many cooks in the kitchen" of advice on pretty much anything outside of technical topics that truly have a right answer.

You're gonna be choice paralyzed and not do anything if you try to rely on a multitude of disembodied voices coming from radically different backgrounds and experiences to make life decisions.

As someone who comes from a UMC private school Bible Belt two-parent household suburban upbringing I cannot give meaningful advice on dating to someone operating in a completely different sphere of people. I've even turned down people asking for advice on this sub because for the most part I don't know you or if anything I have to say is going to be relevant to anything you're ever going to experience.

SeemedGood · 2025-07-02T16:48:25+00:00

Stop listening to women and the insanity subsides.

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Artistic_Speech_1965 · 2025-07-02T15:48:53+00:00

Yep people are different and one advice could work in a certain setting while it could fail in another setting

Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-07-02T16:12:55+00:00

It’s not. It’s just diverse and not guaranteed, because people are

Rogue_Sex_Ed · 2025-07-02T16:53:18+00:00

Would you say there’s a difference in the advice given to men by women, versus advice given by other men?

ThrowRABigStoveTV · 2025-07-02T17:13:08+00:00

Here’s the thing man… everyone wants to feel like there’s an absolute answer… some code that they can live life by that solves it all. In the age of social media, our brains are flooded by people offering advice like it’s one of the Ten Commandments.

The truth is there isn’t an absolute answer or thing to do - it’s all relative and should be personalized, having to do with who you are and where your starting point is.

Everything you wrote down is true and means the world… for somebody. My advice would be always contextualize what you read and see how/if it applies to you, and what pieces can move you toward the balance you want to live in.

throwaway73737828 · 2025-07-02T17:46:10+00:00

Its actually very simple, you just have to be in the top 20%, lets looks at the rest for a second (80%). These men are boring, looks mid, have some social life or not at all etc. Now lets look at what women pick, they pick men who are somewhat attractive as minimum, they can provide for activities, they are confident and they are smooth socially (not awkward or boring) etc. So when you completely understand the fact that only 20% of men is being chased by the market, you have to improve yourself a ton and then everything will happen for you.

OMWSpuds · 2025-07-02T19:24:27+00:00

With the first bullet point there's clearly a happy medium, take care of yourself stay in shape but don't become obsessed or make it your entire identity.

Ok_Play4544 · 2025-07-02T20:37:07+00:00

You got it!!!

I hope you did. You need to deeply disregard this shit, and be confident from your own 'world'.

Silver_Past2313 · 2025-07-02T23:24:59+00:00

Mating is a competitive game and it's in everyone's selfish interest to lie to everyone else.

Srapture · 2025-07-03T00:34:26+00:00

Gotta just tune it out and strive to be your best self, my man.

DelDivision · 2025-07-03T01:17:14+00:00

Well advice is really to get you to stop complaining. Especially if its hopeless. Cause lets face it, either you got, can get it or you cant. If possible looksmaxx, fix any social inadequacies, thats all people can tell you to do, outside of that its cope or rope.

rando_dud · 2025-07-03T01:40:19+00:00

Most men I know are in relationships.. most of them are not mind reader, body builders or anything like that.

I'm not saying it's easy but you have built up quite a strawman here.

Don't get so tied up with what other people want. Work on yourself, and cultivate positive interaction with people around you. Sooner or later, something will connect.

You're not hunting a spouse. you're gardening.. yourself.

Turbulent-Company373 · 2025-07-03T02:28:12+00:00

Either they like you (hi) or they don't like you (bye).

GKilat · 2025-07-03T02:36:33+00:00

The only advice to follow is be yourself, constantly improve to the best you can be, and most importantly find a compatible partner. That's it.

Being yourself means you are not going to suffer trying to be someone you are not for another and constantly improving yourself means you strive for the version of you with the most positive quality and with least negative ones. All of that for someone that fits to who you are and will like you because of your positive qualities.

The advice you are talking about are specific and is not always applicable to everyone. It's like teaching a spider how to catch prey by chasing after it because cats are successful in doing so.

FreshPrinceOfIndia · 2025-07-03T05:07:01+00:00

The people saying muscles matter and the people saying muscles dont matter arent the same people

Theres gonna be a million ideas floating around, follow the ones that reflec reality

Aka looks and personality are complimentary traits and you cant have one without the other for a sustainable relationship

And you definitely cant have a casual dating life with no looks

Schleudergang1400 · 2025-07-03T06:57:21+00:00

Spoiler: you don't need any of that to get a relationship. No apps, no gym, no approaching at bars, no personality. All you need to do is talk to single women who are about your mate value until you meet someone with mutual interest.

Improving your body/finances/personality/etc. is only ever required if you want to be attractive to higher mate value women than your current mate value.

Whatever your current mate value, there is a guy somewhere, with that mate value, who is in a relationship with an equally valued woman. There is no "you need to bis this tall/value to rid" sign.

-Kalos · 2025-07-03T12:20:24+00:00

Quit over correcting. One extreme or the other isn't attractive to most people. You can go to the gym and not revolve your entire personality around it. Life is full of nuances and individuals with different tastes. Figure out what type of women you like and make yourself attractive to them. Everyone wants a one size fits all solution that attracts every woman when it doesn't work like that

Odd_Quit_8905 · 2025-07-03T12:55:03+00:00

I believe a problem in this is technology, not the advice. People are lazier (myself included) more socially awkward and less willing to take social risks all because of technology and social media in some forms. It isn’t a man or woman thing, it’s a human thing.

The best advice is this: work on yourself to the point you feel self confidence, decenter technology from your life and especially your love life, and push yourself in social settings (start small build up). Behind a physical appearance that isn’t subpar (a feat anyone can achieve, don’t believe the black pill rubbish) be interesting, kind and humble and actually fun to talk to. The only way you become these things? Real life interaction.

In short, screens push circular and divisive ideas, they aren’t beneficial in any way to a love life.

DiscombobulatedTop8 · 2025-07-03T13:46:28+00:00

Dating advice is generally about offering platitudes to make you feel better.

Actual truthful advice is not pleasant to hear, because most of the people who succeed simply chose the right parents and put in zero effort.

Equivalent_Abies817 · 2025-07-03T14:53:35+00:00

I heard someone recently describe this as the modern equivalent of "sending a knight on a treadmill of side quests, but he never get's to the gold"

Business-Stretch2208 · 2025-07-03T19:25:36+00:00

You can both go to the gym and exercise without it being your personality
You can both not use dating apps and not approach strange women in public while meeting people. It's called making friends. Maybe you'll date one, but don't have that as your main intention.
This one is kinda silly so I am not even going to touch it

Certain_Process_7657 · 2025-07-03T22:13:14+00:00

Bro you have a terribly negative mindset. Bars and social clubs are all essentially singles clubs. The vast majority of people that go to those are single and at least open to meeting someone new. Sounds like you haven't actually attempted to make any approaches because you think everything is taboo. Grow some balls and shoot your shot.

macdaddy0800 · 2025-07-04T00:35:35+00:00

It stops being circular when you do it for yourself and not for the validation of others.

Take the gym for example.

Women can sense and feel men who are going to gyms to perve on women or there to pick up.

Such behaviour is focused not on himself.

The opposite of that is a man who goes to the gym to make himself stronger and committed to that and won't let him get distracted.

He isn't distracted by women in cute gyn outfits with amazing feminine physiques.

That behaviour implies other things as well, he isn't overly sexual or horny, he can control his impulses, he isn't distracted by women. He is consistent. He is safe.

Understand and be mindful of the vibes and behaviours that you are implying as you navigate the world.

Good luck.

No-Hovercraft-455 · 2025-07-04T03:15:03+00:00

Human interaction is too complex to be summed up in cover it all dating advice. People have preferences that aren't the same between two individuals. Additionally people spend a lot of time chasing things they don't need and that don't end up even being things they wanted, as if individual preferences didn't muddy it up enough from the view point of wanting to make it follow one set of previously defined rules. Nobody designs it that way, life is just infuriating and you need to stay focused to define where all the toes are to not step on ones you wanted to avoid.

Global_Advantage7296 · 2025-07-07T03:35:47+00:00

Suppression of dissent.

Bernie_Made_Off · 2025-07-07T16:36:07+00:00

Modern dating advice is meant to be curricular and vague. It’s a business, after all.

A very profitable business

wideHippedWeightLift · 2025-07-02T17:33:36+00:00

Show, don't tell.

Men like women with pretty faces, they don't like women who yap about makeup.

Similarly, women like men who look strong (including "dad bod" aka powerlifter build), they don't like men who yap about the gym and make it their personality.

beautyloser · 2025-07-05T18:53:46+00:00

OP was banned for admitting he is an incel.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2025-07-02T15:18:55+00:00

NGL: these rants always remind me of this meme,

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cromulent_weasel · 2025-07-02T19:54:04+00:00

In my early struggling days when I was reaching out for advice, the most common thing I heard was hit the gym... so that's what I did. I was never fat and always around 10% BF or even lower

The average person is obese. They NEED to build some muscle in order to start running down their fat reserves rather than continuing to pile it on. Being fit and healthy is a good thing, it extends your life and your quality of life. Being heavily muscled, sure some women are into that but I think in general men appreciate a heavily muscled look more than women do.

I think we all understand that apps are bad, but what else is there?

I might not be the best person for this advice (or maybe I am the BEST person, IDK) but the two times I got on the apps, I basically deleted my accounts before I had finished fully fleshing it out. I think the 'get off the apps' stuff is because doomscrolling is depression inducing. Maybe have a set time each day (say 7pm) where you are allowed FIVE minutes to check for messages and respond. Then have one one hour slot a week where you search through profiles. No more than that, everything else is diminishing returns and has a negative impact on your life.

Women cannot sense a personality through a screen

Yup. You want your photos to be decent and thought out, but really it's the text prompts that mattered to me. You want to design them to engage with the kind of woman you want to date that is your kind of weird.

then you have to walk the relationship tightrope

This reads like a young inexperienced person. You should have some idea of who you are. Don't focus on walking a tightrope, focus on being authentically you. Also, have an idea about what things like healthy boundaries, consent etc etc is. That's all 'book learning' you can do outside of a relationship that you shouldn't need a partner to spoonfeed to you.

Focus on health. Be physically healthy, diet healthy (NOT low fat, eat nutritious food), emotionally healthy, mentally healthy, career healthy. Someone who's doing ok on those fronts is much more likely to be considered 'relationship material' by a prospective partner.

relish5k · 2025-07-03T04:32:22+00:00

Are you truly flummoxed that the most common dating advice is to look hot and have a good personality??

Organicana · 2025-07-02T16:17:59+00:00

I only have one thought on this ........
Stop seeking advice, permissions, and acceptability through sources that simply are not going to be honest nor care about your outcome.
To sum up what someone quite brilliant concerning human interactions ...... the late and enormously great Patrice Oneil.

If you wish to catch fish ...... You DO NOT ask fish how they wish to be caught as they will never be honest, and besides, they themselves really do not know.
If you wish to catch fish, you seek out the advice and counsel of highly successful fishermen.

It's pretty easy and sound advice if you ask me ...... I can also attest to its extreme accuracy.

Freie_Mathilde · 2025-07-02T19:26:55+00:00

As a somewhat feminist purple-pill young woman, I agree that most of these pieces of advice for boys are much more hurtful than helpful. Love, sex and dating aren't fair and some men must accept the fact that they don't have what it takes to please a girlfriend, no matter how hard they might work on themselves. I feel sad for them but nobody is entitled to sexual pleasure. However, it is also false to say that girls don't have it easier, since the end of the Covid time, I've been slightly obese and not particularly attractive and yet showing off cleavage or wearing a miniskirt is enough to be desired and approached by quite a few guys. I fully recognise it's a lot easier for me to not fall asleep alone than for an average man but average men shouldn't hate and resent me because of that.
Inceldom makes men much more unhappy and suicidal.

qwertyuduyu321 · 2025-07-02T15:28:00+00:00

Advice geared towards men is circular and designed to drive you insane

Well, f*ck advice, Einstein.

By now, it's cyrstal clear what men and women alike want in the opposite sex.

Want to appeal to the opposite sex? Be what they want.

Most of us grew up with the internet — for our generations, there’s absolutely no excuse for being naive, helpless, or outright stupid.

JUST. BE. WHAT. THEY. WANT.

It’s that simple.

Title	Advice geared towards men is circular and designed to drive you insane
Author	Direct_Onion_8917
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Comments	489
Date	July 2, 2025 2:51 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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