Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?

bunnakay · 2022-09-08T02:04:34+00:00

You're free to want only virgins. But I think it's hilarious that guys who have had sex are trying to find any after college.

Grimmanomaly · 2022-09-08T02:39:46+00:00

Why does is matter that much? Besides not even half of what you said being true. I could give two fucks about whether or not the woman I’m in a relationship is a virgin. I’m not going to sit there and think about her fucking other guys just like she’s not going to sit there and think of me fucking other girls. It has no relevance what so ever. I’m not completely rejected by the thought of myself that I have to consider every woman trying to fuck a random guy that’s more attractive than me. This sub was funny at first but goddamn it’s pathetic. Trying to make up a shit ton of imaginary rules that outsmart the opposite sex like they’re that silly rabbit trying to steal our fruity pebbles or something.

Blame_the_Muse · 2022-09-08T01:43:10+00:00

If you want a virgin you better find her at 16 and marry her at 18

Guys want to mess around and experiment and marry when they're mature and established. So do girls

DivineDaedra · 2022-09-08T01:46:41+00:00

Because some men with fairly average sex drives who are older than 25 want to date women their age. If a woman is 25 and still a virgin, chances are she’s either extremely low libido or something else has resulted in her not wanting sex.

I think wanting someone with compatible views on sex is completely normal and okay. Wanting a virgin can cause real problems in finding a partner—especially if you older and/or are hesitant about getting married.

That being said, if it’s a preference but not a dealbreaker then it’s probably not going to be an issue as long as you don’t make it one.

Snekky3 · 2022-09-08T02:28:46+00:00

They are only less likely to divorce because they tend to be religious. Are you religious? Do you want to live that lifestyle?

mumblebumblegrumble · 2022-09-08T02:26:25+00:00

I don't think it's the idea of "women shouldn't be sleeping around" that's the iseue. It's the hypocrisy of thinking it's ok for men to sleep around with it.

Who are these men supposed to be sleeping around with exactly? The other issue when this comes up is, if we take OP's assertions about virgin women at face value and claim it truth that a man marrying a virgin gets a better wife, is there any evidence that the virgin wife gets a better husband?

Does she get a man less likely to cheat, less inclined domestic violence, more likely to not take her for granted and do more household chores? Is she actually getting better than the woman that didn't wait or was promiscuous even if all 3 women get a husband in the end?

Slyfer_Seven · 2022-09-08T01:43:09+00:00

Because real life isn't a spreadsheet and playing to statistics is a ridiculously stupid way to go about finding a long term partner...

Vet a chick based on who they are as a person, not their stats, this isn't a fucking video game

purplish_possum · 2022-09-08T01:38:37+00:00

Because by the time a woman has proved to the world that she's marriage material by completing university, possibly grad school, and establishing herself in a career she's almost certainly no longer a virgin.

poppy_blu · 2022-09-08T02:17:33+00:00

Prefer whatever you want. No one cares.

JMoon33 · 2022-09-08T01:42:15+00:00

I've dated three virgins. I took their virginity and all. It never lead to anything serious because inexperienced women don't know what they like, what they're looking for, etc.

I don't plan on ever dating a virgin again. It's not for me. I want a girl with at least some experience and who can tell me what she's into and what she's looking for.

fake7272 · 2022-09-08T01:47:12+00:00

Virgins are statistically better off in long term relationships because they are usually bound by religious beliefs. Those same beliefs that stopped them from having sex also stopped them from divorcing so while they might not get divorced, those relationships might not necessarily bring happiness to either party.

On the other hand, there are many relationships between two non virgins who are incredibly happy. Statistics dont show everyone's story.

No blue pill person is telling women to go fuck every dude you want, there will not be any consequences. Obviously there are social pressures to not be a slut and many people will judge a promiscuous past.

As for the red pillers, I have fucked and talked to many virgins, they are not special unicorns. Most of them are naive and uninteresting.

So to answer your question, the values I hold to date women have nothing to do with their sexual past. Do I want to date a slut who has sex with 250 guys? Not really. But that girl ABSOLUTELY has other traits that I have weeded out as undesirable. But a girl having 10 sexual partners? Pfff. Who cares dude.

ClaraBow01 · 2022-09-08T02:01:24+00:00

I’m a virgin woman and I find virgin preferences to be gross and based on really offensive stereotypes. Men who care about a woman’s virginity are insecure, hyper-jealous, and possibly controlling. The problem is that you are confusing causation with correlation. Women who remain virgins until marriage are likely from cultures that are more traditional and therefore less likely to divorce and cheat. However, your virginity doesn’t have any real impact on whether you will cheat. There are hundreds of other factors that have more of an effect on whether you will cheat. This is about on par with the “violent video games cause school shootings” argument.

Also, wouldn’t your logic also apply if the genders were reversed?

_terrold_ · 2022-09-08T02:25:01+00:00

I hope nobody ever fucks you. In fact i curse it upon you.

ruboyuri · 2022-09-08T01:34:36+00:00

Because some men want to have relationships with women, not vaginas.

Novadina · 2022-09-08T04:13:35+00:00

Virgins are objectively better for long-term commitment. they are less likely to divorce

If that is the real reason you prefer virgins, then you should rather prefer college educated women of a similar age to you, and marry in your late 20s / early 30s, that has the lowest divorce rates. People who wait until marriage to have sex divorce less because they are usually religious, with a religion that forbids pre-marital sex and divorce. It definitely doesn’t mean the husband is getting regular sex, look at Christian marriage subs and you’ll see how common it is people who wait end up with completely mismatched libidos.

The big reason most guys don’t want a virgin is they are not teenagers, they don’t want a woman not interested in sex, they want a hot woman, they aren’t religious. Any woman who makes it to 25 and is still a virgin either has a low interest in sex, is not very attractive, is very religious in a religion that forbids it, or has some other issue preventing her from having normal relationships (which for most adults typically includes sex).

HobbitShaker88 · 2022-09-08T03:39:44+00:00

As someone who lost their virginity older than average, I can give actual good insight to this as many men had an issue with me dating me when I was a virgin...I found with these men that most of them didnt want a virgin because while they do indeed like the ideas you listed, they also:

dont want crappy sex. Virgins tend to not give you shatteringly amazing sex experiences. Alot of men want decent sex (that definition will vary upon the man, but virgins are less likely to give it)
they are too afraid the woman will become clingy, whether that would be true or not in reality. Just because you dont want someone to cheat doesnt mean you want someone clingy.
Want sex quickly- virgins are more likely to take sex seriously and not want to rush into it...so men are contradictory in this because they both want sex quickly from a woman yet she cannot do it with past men. This is impossible for women to navigate. For women, you are damned if you do and damned if you dont.

Demasii · 2022-09-08T01:45:24+00:00

because then that brings up the idea that women shouldn't be sleeping around which makes a relationship with women difficult.

Preference in just one area doesn't make a relationship with women difficult.

There is no one out there who is going to hit the mark on all of one's preferences. Relationship can't be perfect.

Virginity is not a silver bullet. If it was it would have been the answer a long time ago.

ajb950 · 2022-09-08T03:17:08+00:00

How are they “objectively” better? How are they more likely to be satisfied?
How are they less likely to cheat?

You don’t think you’re fantasy virgin isnt going to get curious? Won’t get bored of you? Won’t leave you?

ffandyy · 2022-09-08T06:22:16+00:00

This creepy shit is difficult to read, are there any normal guys on PPD?

Flightlessbirbz · 2022-09-08T02:11:53+00:00

Virginity is strongly correlated to devout religious beliefs. This is why they are less likely to divorce or cheat - it’s not accepted in the community. If you’re religious too, that’s great. If not, it’s unlikely to work.

What are some reasons not to pick a virgin? Well, sexual dysfunction and emotional issues surrounding sex is quite real but not often talked about problem among people who waited till marriage. Women who grow up with shame surrounding sex can develop a condition called vaginismus, where they involuntarily tighten the pelvic muscles, making penetration painful or impossible. Even many “pure” women who don’t have this condition, struggle very much to enjoy sex. Men can have sexual issues related to shame too, and can also get frustrated and impatient with their wives, making everything worse. In short, if you want frequent, passionate or kinky sex, don’t expect it from a virgin.

Maturity can also be an issue, as many virgins are really too young to get married but rush the courtship anyway because they want to have “legal” sex. Even older virgins are often sheltered and mentally immature. Some will also feel after marriage that they want to explore other people since they never got to before.

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with virgins as a rule. But these are some reasons why there can be issues.

throw_plushie · 2022-09-08T01:41:10+00:00

Experience is the key here. Virgins are clueless. I’m a woman and I personally don’t want to sit down and be somebody’s teacher because it’s just embarrassing and awkward.

EugeneCezanne · 2022-09-08T02:17:09+00:00

No. I wouldn't even go on a date with a virgin, let alone anything more.

And no, contrary to popular male belief, you can't just have sex with a virgin to make her "experienced." True experience require breadth as well as depth. My ideal partner has already spent a few years figuring out what she's really into and how to get and give.

I hear "Well i want a girl who knows what she wants." idk if u havent noticed but they all want the same 1% of guys, so ur saying u want her to go fuck the hottest guys and get rejected first?

It sounds like you're just crying about your own insecurities and wondering why other men aren't equally insecure.

ManWazo · 2022-09-08T01:44:37+00:00

why not just fuck the virgin a bunch and make her experienced?

If she's virgin you're the best partner she ever had, but you're also the worse. You really think it's better to earn a gold medal when you're alone in a competition than by beating 100 other people?

hardly a single guy here can honestly say he likes the thought of his wife fucking someone else

Yeah if she has fun why not as long as there are no lies.

Virgins are objectively better for long-term commitment. they are less likely to divorce, they are more likely to be satisfied in their relationship, and they are less likely to cheat

Yes theres some weak correlations between all that but weak correlations wont influence my life decisions so i kinda dont care. In real life, weak correlations dont matter.

yas_kang_slayyy · 2022-09-08T02:19:31+00:00

How many virgins do you think there are? And why would they choose you? They'd probably choose some religious traditionalist guy.

Guys that obsess over this shit are delusional. Stop trying to find unicorns. Accept women for what they are and move on with your life.

pipulas1 · 2022-09-08T02:18:53+00:00

I am going to tell u a story. I am old and from another country. In my time I had a friend who had an operation to repair her hymen so she could pretend she was a virgin for her fiance. She got married. Was a “virgin”. Sad way to start a marriage. Obviously they got divorced later.

corporatesandry · 2022-09-08T02:52:45+00:00

Nobody cares, we’re just saying you also need to accept the consequences of unrealistic expectations.

Just like women are entitled to their own high standard preferences—but they too MUST accept the consequences of having these preferences

As you stated earlier, you either want to find your unicorn or won’t commit. Absolutely NOTHING wrong with that and nobody actually CARES what you choose to do

RealNiceLady · 2022-09-08T03:10:14+00:00

If anyone wants a virgin unicorn, here I am.

techr0nin · 2022-09-08T03:21:27+00:00

IIRC the least likely to divorce demographic in terms of sexual experience is an n-count of 1-3 prior to marriage, with virgins being the next lowest. Which sort of makes sense because you’d be mitigating against a woman’s fear of missing out in the case of virgins.

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2022-09-08T03:48:19+00:00

If you only want to date virgins then that’s great, carry on.

The more men that are up front about these things the better for women

Gawyne · 2022-09-08T03:56:49+00:00

Is this the same guy as before? Nah man some guys like em experienced. There’s no data there. And MANY guys like hearing or seeing their wives fuck someone else.

Quit being so insecure and have your weird thing hurt don’t put it on the rest of us.

Naru4odo · 2022-09-08T04:05:16+00:00

I'm all for preference, but if you would cheat on said virgin then it makes no sense.

ToneZealousideal309 · 2022-09-08T04:08:12+00:00

An experienced woman has points of reference to compare you to. A virgin could very likely become curious about others down the line.

The only upside I can think of right now is less risk of stds.

literaryhogwartian · 2022-09-08T05:02:35+00:00

Can we assume the man in this scenario is a virgin as well?

Slipthe · 2022-09-08T06:48:08+00:00

Have you considered the possibility that the ven diagram of virgins who are attracted to you and virgins you are attracted to doesn't overlap?

Because woof.

TravisScottNL · 2022-09-08T06:59:43+00:00

It’s nearly impossible to find a virgin lmao.

But yeah, high body count women are better for short term. Other guys didn’t LTR her so why should I ? Also a girl could have trash sex with a bunch of dudes but good sex with a few serious ltr’s. That experience shit is bs and just a cuckold mindset. Guys are only thinking with their dicks.

You can ltr high body count women just know that it’s your turn and DO NOT MARRY her.

Seaker___ · 2022-09-08T08:53:46+00:00

Not many of them around

2022-09-08T15:03:33+00:00

You might find that you have little/no chemistry and mismatched libidos.

Most people find unenthusiastic duty sex bellow par, and would find someone that genuinely loves fucking their brains out.

Say hypothetically I marry someone who I haven't fucked. He might go down on me and realise he hates eating pussy. So either he just doesn't do it, or he does it as a duty.

That would be shit for everyone all round.

Bikerbats · 2022-09-08T01:58:39+00:00

Sorry dude, had one, left her for greener (saner) pastures.

AstronautLoveShack · 2022-09-08T02:04:24+00:00

Because every woman starts out a virgin and becomes not that way because of a man.

ThisTimeForRealYo · 2022-09-08T04:28:31+00:00

Wanting a virgin because you yourself can’t get laid is shitty reasoning.

_Duriel_1000_ · 2022-09-08T01:40:47+00:00

I'll be honest, virgins older than like 27 are rare and have deeper issues. Of course, every man wants a virgin or a girl with low b-count.

SoIlikeMangos · 2022-09-08T02:35:16+00:00

Here we go again...

HushPuppy1993 · 2022-09-08T01:56:51+00:00

Honestly they should.

Silverk42-2 · 2022-09-08T02:37:37+00:00

Please provide where you got your info about how "Virgins are objectively better for long-term commitment. they are less likely to divorce, they are more likely to be satisfied in their relationship, and they are less likely to cheat.".

The likely reason for "lower" divorce rates with only 0 sexual partners is likely just due to the fact that some people get lucky and meet their perfect match very early in life.

Sutanrei · 2022-09-08T02:12:27+00:00

Obviously you're correct but you didn't even mention the actual problem; availability. It's simply not realistic.

retal1ator · 2022-09-08T04:30:46+00:00

They’re scarce after about 20 years old. So men have to adapt.
We want to make sure she experimented a bit already and she now knows what she wants.
Knowing the sexual experiences of a woman also helps in picking the right one for you.
Virginity is not seen as a value anymore, men aren’t fully aware of the differences regarding pair bonding, etc…

In all honesty, I believe it’s mostly point 1 for a good portion of men. If men had a magic wand and could pick anything, they would likely prefer her woman to be a virgin or with few experience.

Just enough experience to make her appreciate you, but never enough to make her jaded.

DisasterPeace7 · 2022-09-08T01:54:06+00:00

Because not every guy is the same, I married my wife when she was 16 ( legal in my state) and a virgin, for some people that would not be ideal , they may want someone with more experience, but even then my wife being a virgin was little to no factor in my choosing to propose

givesmeconniptionfit · 2022-09-08T02:10:32+00:00

Every man that insists virgins are the gold standard is projecting an inability to reign in his own human nature onto women.

The idea is the more sexual experience a woman gains, the more her desires will interfere with how her brain processes partner selection, which leads to doubt in choosing/having chosen a partner (i.e. cheating, divorce, alpha widows). They're not as in touch with their biological impulses because the drive is much stronger in men. Men can't keep it in their pants, women can't figure out what they want, etc.

Instead of navigating through this complication with rock solid communication of intent and awareness of internal biases, the redpill rhetoric is women, like men, can never fully be trusted when it comes to animal attraction, so it's better to get them before they're able to 'confuse' themselves.

alphasupremacy5555 · 2022-09-08T02:11:03+00:00

So because I'm telling the truth my comment is sick? How about not being in your feelings and getting mad? You shouldn't get emotional over facts. You can't speak for all virgin girls though there aren't many of you. YOU don't want anything to do with me you can't accept reality. You don't have to be an object to be molded. People can still be molded.

alphasupremacy5555 · 2022-09-08T01:53:04+00:00

This comment is so extremely on point I can't find any way to disagree here. Virgins are definitely way more preferable but the reality is hardly any of age girl is a virgin. There are way way more virgin males than there are virgin females. Even most girls under the age of 18 aren't virgins. A lot of guys aren't going to believe going to believe a woman and she said she's a virgin because women lie. Just like there's no point in asking someone what their body count is. I know that a lot of guys do not require a girl to be a virgin. But if a man is able to get a woman who is actually truly a virgin he can break her in train her and mold her to what he wants her to be. That's what I want to do. Origins of girls will be the most loyal because once you dick them down give them their first experience of dick they're going to be attached to you. They'll be cleaning but if you're a guy who doesn't get a lot of coochie you won't care. But like I said a lot of guys don't necessarily need a virgin they just want a girl who isn't a hoe and hasn't been fucked by a lot of guys. Guys will say they want a girl who has experience but you can train her and teach her how to be your own personal cumdumpster. You can teach her what you like.

AutoModerator · 2022-09-08T01:31:37+00:00

Attention!

You can post off topic/jokes/puns as a comment to this Automoderator message.
For "CMV" and "Question for X" Threads: Parent comments that aren't from the target group will be removed, along with their child replies.
If you want to agree with OP instead of challenging their view or if the question is not targeted at you, post it as an answer to this comment.
OP you can choose your own flair according to these guidelines., just press Flair under your post!

Thanks for your cooperation and enjoy the discussion!

I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.

alphasupremacy5555 · 2022-09-08T02:30:41+00:00

How? How am I sick? Because you don't like what I said? I'm just being honest. Honesty is the best policy. It's not my problem if you can't stomach reality.

IcarusKiki · 2022-09-08T03:15:08+00:00

bc most virgins after 20 or so are that way bc they were sheltered for one reason or another and will probably get the “what ifs” sooner or later unless you stay in her insular religious community. Otherwise its an eventual “open marriage” or divorce.

A better option would be a low n count girl who has had a boyfriend or two and secular authoritative parents. That way she wont go nuts the second shes away from her parents/religions thumb

TATA456alawaife · 2022-09-08T03:21:56+00:00

I mean sure, I think most men would. But the vast majority of women who are looking for a long term relationship probably aren’t virgins, mostly because they’re past their youth. BAP speaks on this. If you want to settle down with a girl, just find one that’s nice. Although I got a lot of respect for men who turn it down and choose a life without it.

Patrickstarho · 2022-09-08T03:48:00+00:00

I’m scared of blood 💯

Acceptable_Parking96 · 2022-09-08T03:59:26+00:00

The less the better, virgin might be asking too much especially in 2022

dukesaces · 2022-09-08T04:03:14+00:00

Most men would prefer good, loyal, virgin wives if they could find them, the key word being finding them. It's very difficult to find a virgin woman after college.

rurunoa · 2022-09-08T05:15:11+00:00

we dont care

MarBitt · 2022-09-08T05:34:27+00:00

I didn't want to be a virgin until I got married. Even if it would make me statisticaly less likely to want a divorce, even if it would increase my satisfaction in the relationship. I was looking for a woman who has a complementary outlook on life, with whom we have similar principles.
Fucked a few times does not make a woman experienced in sex. Getting to the level where one is experienced and good at sex takes years of practice and experimentation. It's not a good example, but when you hire an employee or an investment partner, do you also prefer to go for a completely inexperienced person who you will have to teach everything, just because he won't be able to compare you with previous employers? I didn't want a woman who would be almost like my daughter or pupil.
It may be true that most women want 1% of the same men. But first of all, I don't want a mainstream woman, I was looking for a quite unique woman. And secondly, just because people want something doesn't mean they'll be satisfied when they get it. A lot of people chase after illusions, and only when they get them, does it rid them of that delusional desire. A person who really knows what he wants has already seen through these lures and illusions and acts on the basis of his will and not on the basis of, say, pressure from society or the advice of friends.

Laurely4u · 2022-09-08T05:56:37+00:00

I read a story on the dead bedroom subreddit posted by a religious man who married his girlfriend after a hands off courtship and the relationship never turned the corner. I think in this day and age you would have to ask why is this girl a virgin at whatever age she is at? Going forward is that quite possibly her general mindset and disposition to be low libido, hung up, frigid, not sexually open minded or generally not into men.

SnooCats37 · 2022-09-08T06:26:24+00:00

This is how I interpret this stuff you guys on here spout about virgin women. 1. You’re that insecure you are worried that you’re shit in bed therefore if she’s a virgin she has nothing to compare your bad sex to. 2. You see virgin women as women who are easier to manipulate.

Most men don’t care about whether the woman they are with is a virgin or not. Both men and women are out off by extremely high body counts. Some men would actively avoid being with a woman that’s a virgin due to the added pressure that they feel comes with it

SnooCats37 · 2022-09-08T06:26:39+00:00

This is how I interpret this stuff you guys on here spout about virgin women. 1. You’re that insecure you are worried that you’re shit in bed therefore if she’s a virgin she has nothing to compare your bad sex to. 2. You see virgin women as women who are easier to manipulate.

Most men don’t care about whether the woman they are with is a virgin or not. Both men and women are out off by extremely high body counts. Some men would actively avoid being with a woman that’s a virgin due to the added pressure that they feel comes with it

Stop_Maximum · 2022-09-08T06:33:36+00:00

As someone who is, most of the things you listed can happen. How are they going to be more satisfied in the relationship? Unless the guy is saving himself for marriage, I don’t see how that will work.

HODL_monk · 2022-09-08T06:37:12+00:00

As if it wasn't hard enough to find a female who is young, in shape, and not tatted up...

ThrowRAmtf · 2022-09-08T06:59:30+00:00

a girl with in her past only monogamous relationships (no cheating, no casual sex, no strange things like group sex, porn, fetish) is practically a virgin.

it's not important if a penis (or several penises) have entered inside her, but how they have entered.

I call her a "transactional" virgin, which is a recursive definition.

A girl/boy is a transactional virgin if:

1) is a virgin

2) has had only sex with other transactional virgins.

A gir/boy loses her/his status of transactional virgin if he/she exits the monogamous relationship lifestyle

Caring_Cactus · 2022-09-08T07:41:38+00:00

I hope you realize everyone starts out as a virgin, but look where a lot of people end up lol. Point is virginity doesn't mean anything, and definitely not in the way you're talking. Most virgins are blue pilled

goffredo123 · 2022-09-08T08:17:12+00:00

You're right mate. A car is better new, not with hundres of thousands miles... Thats why for serious relationship i only want virgin girls

Academic_Snow_7680 · 2022-09-08T08:18:46+00:00

"MAKE WOMEN IGNIRANT AGAIN!"

AtomicTimothy · 2022-09-08T08:55:39+00:00

Imo only male virgins can say this shit, otherwise you're just being a huge hypocrite

Crafty_Letter_1719 · 2022-09-08T09:18:15+00:00

While it’s true that in the context of a long term relationship the majority of Men would “prefer” a Virgin; the majority of Men don’t have that option-as they have so few options in the first place.

It’s like a Woman saying she would “prefer” her husband to be 6,5 with the looks of a model, the bank balance of a CEO and to be utterly committed to her and her alone. Good luck with that.

Unless a guy is going to wife her up at 16 or seek out somebody ultra religious; finding a Virgin for a long term relationship is not going to happen for most guys. Not least because the type of guy actually capable of bagging a Virgin(who is also desirable) is not the type of guy who actually wants a long term relationship himself. While Woman should accept that Men are indeed put off by promiscuous Woman in the context of a long term relationship due to evolutionary biology; Men that obsess over Virginity generally do so because they are unable to obtain what they really want- lots of casual sex.

The irony is most guys would prefer a life sleeping with a different(attractive) “slut” every night rather than settling down and committing to his dream Virgin unicorn for the rest of his life.

Most promiscuous Woman by contrast don’t actually want to be “sluts”. They want a committed, monogamous relationship. They just struggle to lock down the type of guy they are actually attracted to because that guy has the options not to be locked down in the first place. The more promiscuous they become though the less attractive they become to the type of guy they actually want.

It’s a cosmic joke really.

TomBerwick1984 · 2022-09-08T09:22:56+00:00

Because I believe it's up to every man to decided what they want, I don't believe every man 'should' want a particular kind of woman (which is what you are arguing).

jay10033 · 2022-09-08T10:28:47+00:00

Very simple. Theory of the second best.

Bungermanbruggs · 2022-09-08T10:35:46+00:00

Move to one of the middle eastern countries where women aren't allowed to think.

_Remember_me_not_ · 2022-09-08T12:02:49+00:00

While I would not go as far as make this a mandatory standard like those practiced in certain cults and religions but there can be no doubt that a high body count irrespective of the gender can be a red flag in terms of long relationships and commitment. Lower body count means increased chances that the person is rational, loyal and not prone to wild and irresponsible lifestyle. Everyone is entitled to have their own standards and live their lives as they please but from a logical point of view, a high body count cannot be a desirable quality in anyone.

onestH · 2022-09-08T12:57:31+00:00

As long as a girl has only had sex in LTRs I don’t mind.

A woman being independent and having a careere means less than 0 to most men. I’ve been with someone who spent some $50,000 on me but most women won’t share a dime with a guy, so why would he care that she’s got a good job? It just means that she’s got an overinflated self-worth, is entitled and submits to another man.

We want beautiful and kind women, optimally untouched by other men. That’s all I can think of on top of my head.

But I’m only interested in pussy so I’m just hooking up and blocking those who get clingy afterwards.

Katatonicsnake · 2022-09-08T13:35:48+00:00

You can want whatever you want. However, your chances are better (and you’re less hypocritical)if you’re one of these: a. virgin yourself b. very good at sex and able to give her the best first experience possible. Most women have horrible first time experiences, so even if she’s less likely to cheat on you (smth that’s often echoed here), she might have a negative view on sex for the rest of her life.

ConstanceVigilante · 2022-09-08T14:29:26+00:00

100% trolling

Mrs_Liahen94 · 2022-09-08T21:12:57+00:00

if you want me, you should be virgin yourself

CatchPhraze · 2022-09-08T21:24:19+00:00

Do you want to wait until marriage to have sex yourself? Because if you date her, that's her expectation. Also, her libido is likely to be lower studies show.

So I'll take my passionate 10+ year marriage of good sex and you can end up on r/deadbedrooms. Lol.

Material-Parsnip5509 · 2022-09-09T06:08:39+00:00

In the immortal words of The Rolling Stones..”you can’t always get what you want”

LadyofTheGreyPath · 2022-09-09T17:14:51+00:00

i really think men just can't handle the idea that they would prefer a virgin if they could have one because then that brings up the idea that women shouldn't be sleeping around which makes a relationship with women difficult.

So, you're saying men are indecisive idiots that's don't what they want. Yeah, that's a great way to argue your position and it is deserving of all the applause and praise one can think of, truly one of the more mature debaters here on this sub-Reddit.

I'll say this again: please learn how to actually make posts in good faith and without making your target audience (men) sound like incapable children.

Estoura-himen · 2022-09-14T23:16:12+00:00

There is no reason not to.

Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?

Comments

10%!!!

Title	Why shouldn't EVERY guy prefer a virgin for a serious commitment?
Author	itmethrowaway12
Upvotes	0
Comments	571
Date	September 8, 2022 1:31 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/x8mr17/why_shouldnt_every_guy_prefer_a_virgin_for_a/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PurplePillDebate/why-shouldnt-every-guy-prefer-a-virgin-for-a.1129661 https://theredarchive.com/post/1129661