The abundance of options women have has gotten so out of control that even genuine mutual attraction and chemistry aren’t enough to keep their attention

Gigamon2014 · 2022-03-20T18:25:47+00:00

This was always the case with night game numbers, which is more about high energy than a simple matter of drunk vs not drunk. You've got to actually do something with that initial attraction. Like walk through the door of the club and go find late night food. Or invite her to an afterparty and get things popping. Otherwise, it was just a fun flirt in the moment a lot of times and by the next day, she's over it. A number should be your last option, not your first.

gofigure62 · 2022-03-20T19:09:29+00:00

Lots of people are suffering from anxiety and depression these days. I have friends that I'll have a really good time with.

Won't hear from them for weeks or months despite reaching out. They always come back apologizing and detail how hard things have been lately.

Life is more complicated now. People have to work harder and longer for the same quality of living. Someone going out and having fun one night isn't indicative that they are in a healthy or sociable place most of the time.

baresquad · 2022-03-20T18:17:26+00:00

Just move on

You’re a dude she met in a bar. Not her future husband

This happens to you, it happens to me, it happens to every man. It doesn’t have anything to do about women having a plethora of options, the interaction just doesn’t mean much to them and that’s ok

What’s meant to happen will and what’s not, won’t. There’s no reason to blame it on hypothesis, that’s looking for excuses

She wasn’t feeling you. The same women that did it to me weren’t feeling me either. Same for the next man

Chemical-Ad3703 · 2022-03-20T19:00:06+00:00

Being tipsy makes a person most social.. it doesn't mean much. Try meeting someone in a different setting.

KFC_Fleshlight · 2022-03-20T19:26:30+00:00

You didn't go home with her, she probably went back to someone else's that night and maybe spent their Sunday with them and forgot all about your existence.

All you had together was a little vibe while she was buzzed, it's not that deep. You expected her to go home after one chat with you and be be dreaming about you all day??? Just because she lives rent free in your head doesn't mean the same applies.

haikusbot · 2022-03-20T18:01:54+00:00

out of control

You make it sound like some kind of horrific carnage

Valuable-Marzipan761 · 2022-03-20T17:46:11+00:00

she was probably having a good time with you, just didn't feel that much attraction and thought you were fun to hang out with for a bit.

pearllovespink · 2022-03-20T19:52:27+00:00

You’re confused and have the title off a bit. A woman with options doesn’t have to pay you any attention. Why? Because you have competition.

The SAME thing happens to women. This is not a gender issue nor is it a new thing. Men with options can pick and choose as they please.

A man is only as faithful as his options- Chris Rock 1999

People with options will always exist and date how they please.

renfsu · 2022-03-20T19:48:50+00:00

Lots of women go to the bar/club to feel pretty for the night and go back home alone. They have less interest in sex than men in addition to significantly more options. She probably gave you her number to get you out of her hair.

Mrs_Drgree · 2022-03-20T17:45:07+00:00

You think talking to a chick one night constitutes a genuine attraction and chemistry?

funlightmandarin · 2022-03-20T17:46:09+00:00

Why are you expecting more to happen? You were both out to socialize and did exactly that. Why is it an unsuccessful night just because she didn't end up on your dick.

There's not an abundance of options with "genuine, mutual attraction and chemistry"; that's rare, so I'm gonna assume the woman didn't feel the same.

Cupcakelover1985 · 2022-03-20T20:30:21+00:00

She could’ve just been looking for attention or trying to practice talking to guys but then chickened out the next day when she was completely sober.

nemma88 · 2022-03-20T17:45:40+00:00

You were pump and dumped? Have we come full circle here. By RP theory it's because hypergamy and she's holding out for a best man she can get.

By my theory too many (imo) no longer want LTRs at all. It could be to do with abundance of options... But more and more frequently women are choosing the no man option.

banjocatto · 2022-03-20T18:14:01+00:00

"A woman decided to no longer pursue me?! It must be because their options are just oUt Of CoNtRol, and definitely has nothing to do with any shortcoming on my end."

Or just a lack of chemistry/attraction.

Fusiontron · 2022-03-21T02:09:35+00:00

This might honestly be the worst post in the 2+ years I've been on this subreddit. Just running a mile due to an anecdote. Pffft.

2022-03-20T17:58:44+00:00

Further confirmation that half the posts here are just some guy/gal ranting about whatever happened to them in the last week. I’m sorry Stacey didn’t text you back bro. That must have been very embarrassing. And now you probably have to catch up on your Chemistry 2 studying because you went out last night instead of working. How sad. Maybe next time, download Tinder and get Gold so you can get laid that way. Then you won’t be a horny bastard who needs to get laid every time he goes out. You can actually focus on hanging out with the boys and pursuing the rare woman who is genuinely stunning to you, instead of an easy lay.

SalesAficionado · 2022-03-20T19:28:30+00:00

I sense the distinct hurt of the butt

Hoosker-Doos · 2022-03-20T18:09:22+00:00

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notinmywheelhouse · 2022-03-20T21:53:16+00:00

Some of them are on “Girls night out” and have an S/O at home

purplish_possum · 2022-03-20T23:40:19+00:00

I'm old AF. This is nothing new. Women have been fickel since forever. Since long before Tinder and social media.

festethefoole1 · 2022-03-20T18:35:43+00:00

Red/Purple Pilled guys get a lot of unjust criticism for being “entitled” but I am afraid this post lives up to precisely that.

Reisiluu · 2022-03-20T17:57:08+00:00

hit her up the next day

What did you send her?

flapperfemmefatale · 2022-03-20T18:29:38+00:00

None of what you said gives the impression that you had chemistry. You laughed and smiled. I fake that shit all the time at work with customers.

Are you one of those guys who thinks the server actually gives a fuck about your day when she asks? lol

PurpleKittensRock · 2022-03-20T18:31:38+00:00

I mean, I assume you met her at a bar/night club? If I’m out on a night with the girls, I will not assume that the guys there are looking for “connection”. And even though I don’t do hookups, I don’t have the illusion that men are the same. Most of my female friends will agree - the men you meet on a night out are more likely the casual hookup/pump&dump type rather than looking for genuine love. A lot of us unconsciously associate the guys we meet in broad daylight as potential for something more, but not the clubbing dudes. Again, not all women like that - just speaking for myself and women I know.

Edit: she probably flirted with you because it felt good in that moment/the social setting was accommodating for that

PMmeareasontolive · 2022-03-20T18:45:33+00:00

Women have a million red flags. Not just the safety ones, which make sense, but a plethora of others for avoiding any kind of further interaction. The way you held your drink, your shoe laces could have meant something weird to her, who knows, it could be anything.

iwatchanime101 · 2022-03-21T01:30:29+00:00

It sounds like men and women have the same problem doesn't really seem as one sided to me. Just my opinion you can disagree.

343_peaches_and_tea · 2022-03-20T18:21:42+00:00

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Arnold_Incelinator · 2022-03-20T17:56:48+00:00

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Ainsleygz · 2022-03-20T19:55:11+00:00

So, last night? As in less than 24 hours ago? Maybe she’s hungover. Maybe she’s nervous. Maybe she had a busy day. Maybe she is a bad texter. Maybe she’s just an extrovert and a charmer. Maybe she gave you her info because men have pressured her to do it in the past and it just made her feel safer in the moment. Who knows. What did you say when you exchanged info? Did you try to set up concrete plans in the moment? Eg. “I see you like your margarita. I know an amazing place that also has great tacos we could go to next week!” Always plan for physical interactions, never rely on texting/social media. Meet up as soon as possible. Exchanging socials is inconsequential because there are no real obligations.

No_Tomorrow915 · 2022-03-20T17:49:43+00:00

Women are decent at faking being genuine and men are bad determining whether a girl is interested or not.

NewWayNow · 2022-03-20T20:07:21+00:00

Validation. She had a boyfriend sitting at home all along. For her, mission accomplished -- she can still pull!

For you, pulling would mean actually having sex. For her, that's superfluous. She got got attention and validation. Score.

throwawaylessons103 · 2022-03-20T18:13:44+00:00

Did you want a relationship, or just to get laid?

If I met someone out and they texted me something sincere the next day, I might go out with them again.

If I feel they're just tryna bootycall me, I won't.

SwaySh0t · 2022-03-20T18:39:43+00:00

Couple things: you shouldnt exchange numbers or socials until youve at least made out with her. it’s not full proof, but ime the likelihood of her flaking is much lower after you escalated properly. Immediately going for the #’s/social is a good way to get placed in the “orbiter” category.

You need to become outcome independent, she likely picked up in some neediness or maybe she was just having fun(shocker, I know)

kartu3 · 2022-03-20T18:40:39+00:00

Ridiculous number of options OF WHAT dudee?

You realize that number of men/women is roughly on par (unless you are in college, in which case it's 44% men 56% women and gap is growing, but no worries, since it's men who are disadvantage, we can ignore that) right?

Contrary to what certain folks want you to believe, there is a MAJOR gap in sexual appetite between sexes.

And if you view it from evolution standpoint, it makes perfect sense.

In theoretical one man, 7 women scenario, it makes sense for a men to have sex with all 7, as it increases his chances to leave offspring.

Now, one woman, 7 men scenario, uh oh, it only makes sense to mate with the top ones. (resource provision capabilities and other considerations also apply, unlike with the opposite gender)

That is why ANY not too unhealthy woman can walk into a bar and get out with a sex partner.

LotBuilder · 2022-03-20T19:58:23+00:00

Do you look like a D Bag on the social media you exchange? Just a thought. Women are craving a rare spark just as much as men are.

2022-03-20T20:28:00+00:00

even genuine mutual attraction and chemistry aren’t enough

Almost every dude has met a girl out, vibe was legitimately strong and exchanged #s/socials, hit her up the next day and nothing.

That's because sexual chemistry and non-sexual chemistry are two different things.

Having good rapport with someone doesn't automatically mean they want to smash.

2022-03-20T23:17:06+00:00

Did you text or call her or are you waiting for her to text or call you?

RedPill115 · 2022-03-21T03:54:57+00:00

Almost every dude has met a girl out, vibe was legitimately strong and exchanged #s/socials, hit her up the next day and nothing.
Talked for a bit, laughs and smiles. Exchanged info. Nothing today, and not the first time this has happened. Why do girls do this? I realize they have a ridiculous number of options and aren’t as horny as guys but god damn this shit is annoying.

Context switching, whenever you switch contexts you lose some people, plus texting is where emotion goes to die.

In Person -> to Remote
Emotional -> to Logical/Non-Emotional
Easy -> to Moderate Work

The harder the context switch, the fewer times people will respond.
Also this goes from close (in person) to far away (texting) which always sucks.

What makes this intolerable with women is their complete inability to acknowledge it or talk about it. I've flipped scenarios like this around; but it's less effort if you can avoid it entirely by having 2 social things going on each week that you can just casually invite her to - when you're already in person, avoiding the context switch.

in person -> text, I hate it. it's the worst.

shadyMFer · 2022-03-21T16:07:54+00:00

It's because she wanted you to seal the deal last night, but you bungles it with your played out "can I have your #" schtick. Sack up and close the deal next time. The bar scene is just for one night stands these days, and you blew it.

alexaxl · 2022-03-22T05:10:10+00:00

“Attention high spikes in excess” served to “fleeting unstable minds” by “Insta/ snap” lives.

Quantity and digital eyeball habits and lack of real depth and connection.

Fragmented minds can’t have real connect.

Gigamon2014 · 2022-03-20T17:47:29+00:00

You're asking a perfectly fair question but fuck even wasting your time trying ro figure it out. As I keep saying, I'm running into too many capable men who are actually doing their bit by keeping in shape, maintaining good careers and just generally putting themselves out there but due to their own insecurities or poor self esteem find themselves obsessing over interactions like these when they really should see it as a girls loss as they now they're the shit and any woman would be privileged to enjoy their company.

But if you're desperate for an answer? Alcohol reveals desires that sober minds repress. This is dialled to 11 with women. It's one of the reasons why I can't completely discount the "dual mating strategy" thing that redpillers yap about. So much is based upon the feeling and I tend to find in places of heightened sexual tension and alcohol you'll find people often opting for the characteristics their animal instincts are drawn to. By the time the next morning comes they sober up and in comes the conscious mind with a bunch of second guessing of the previous nights decision making. It's a double edged sword. On one hand it's good that women have a sense of self control and aren't fucking any random dude who shares a glance on a night out, or the other hand is the very thing those same redpillers complain about. Women having the type of guy they're consciously attracted to (sober beta buck) and the guy their pussy truly desires. These can often be different people and I guess it kinda sucks for both guys who feel they're being cheated for their time and interest.

I would strongly suggesting opting to "close" the night you meet a woman u like if you're into that thing. Invite them over to chill or go from there. Better striking while the iron is hot.

Also. Please, PLEASE kill off this "abundance of options". Most of these clown chick's have no fucking options. I've called so many women's bluff, including my girl I'm with now. The typical Western female buffoon feels this need (like most of us morons in the west) that they're situations are better than they are. I bet cash she she has no one hitting her up. Lol of you dudes knew the reality you would stop putting these women on a pedestal.

Classic_Head3437 · 2022-03-20T18:18:16+00:00

Maybe she met a better option. Maybe she forgot. Maybe she doesn't respect that you gave your number and didn't ask for her's. Could one of a hundred different things.

2022-03-20T21:02:19+00:00

I’ve never genuinely liked or clicked with someone who gave me their number and then didn’t text them soo…sorry dude she’s just not that into you

feistykalorina · 2022-03-20T21:32:12+00:00

“I know the difference between being polite and social and genuine mutual attraction”

No you don’t

KikiYuyu · 2022-03-21T00:53:58+00:00

Literally happened last night, and you're mad she isn't talking to you right away?

No wonder opinions here are so fucked. People don't get what they want when they want it, or in the way they want it, and they think that proves all women are sociopaths or some crap.

You have no idea why she isn't messaging you. You have no goddamn idea what day she's having, and you are pissy because it's not all about you.

SmarmyPapsmears · 2022-03-20T18:41:52+00:00

Tbh I think women have it hard too. Just not as hard as men. They have to filter between dudes who will fuck them and dudes who will date them. They will aim for the 8, the 8 will pump and dump. They can go through the whole "why are men like this" phase or just realize that they aren't an 8. It may take years for this realization.

The problem is, nobody will date them without first fucking them, so it's hard to tell. It takes skill to play the game.

OriginalRushdoggie · 2022-03-20T20:47:05+00:00

oh the entitlement!

The funny thing is this shit happens to women too but they don't start social movements talking about how they are entitled to anything.

anonymousUser1SHIFT · 2022-03-20T18:14:12+00:00

I haven't read any of the comments but I can pretty much guess that they will be hostile or attacking OP for reasons of "women don't oh you shit" or "you clearly misunderstood what mutual attraction looks like"

Hoosker-Doos · 2022-03-20T18:12:54+00:00

It's been like half a day. Most dating advice books/columns etc. say that contacting a guy too early signals desperation. She's probably just waiting until later tonight or tomorrow.

I don't get how this is a CMV, though. This just feels like a very specific situation of "why didn't she text me?"

sarkington · 2022-03-20T18:37:55+00:00

You can say the same about men

Why should we if you don’t ?

Daunt02 · 2022-03-20T20:41:13+00:00

Guys need to stop thinking that because they received a woman's number that they deserve investment or even interest from that woman. I did this by explicitly not getting woman's numbers. It's seems counter intuitive but when there was chemistry the woman would typically ask for my number and this lowered the number of flakes I got dramatically. I also live in a big city with a small town scene so a lot of times I would see the same woman I had a great time with a week later and we would vibe, or venue change or whatever else.

Getting a woman's number of course makes sense but a lot of guys think that they did some sort of work to deserve the woman's attention. Attraction is drawing people towards you naturally. Getting a number is nothing special at all.

Rather than thinking she has endless options because she didn't respond to you, maybe realize that she just wasn't that into you. Take the ego out of it and find your tribe over time.

eonus01 · 2022-03-20T20:49:20+00:00

When I read this it felt like I was the one writing this thread, because the exact same thing happened to me at a mid-size venue.

She (28, F) approached me (29, M), asking me if I could help her find friends (but she obviously knew where they were). SHE asked me for my phone number / facebook (I was sober, she was tipsy) to ensure communication next day. I even asked her if she'll remember me next day and said "yes, of course I will!".

Well guess what, radio silence. I wouldn't complain if I was the one approaching but damn, I GOT APPROACHED and this still happened, not the first time either.

DJBurpz · 2022-03-20T22:41:31+00:00

Yep. No idea why they're like this. Was talking with a girl I met on OLD maybe 6 months ago, got on quite well, she told me she thought I was attractive and she loved my voice on the phone. We made a plan to meet up on a Sunday in person after talking on the phone for about a week.

She texts and cancels because she's sick. From then on she starts giving me one word responses to all of my texts, and then we just fade off. Went from a planned date to ghosted. Women are annoying as hell.

Ohms2North · 2022-03-20T23:19:07+00:00

Her attraction is partly state-dependent. She was in a great mood, slightly buzzed, feeling sociable when you made your connection. The next day, she’s back to neutral so it’s harder for her to re-engage with that connection. PUAs talk about not elevating her mood too much when you first chat her up, unless you’re going all the way that night.

My solution is to set up the next date while you’re talking to her. “You like rock climbing? I found a great indoor climbing gym. We should go. Saturday? Lock it in. Cool, let’s go to the bar. You look like you need a refill”.

One thing I thought of but never tried is to jokingly take a selfie together with a happy or goofy pose from both of you. Or even tell her she’s going to forget how great a time she’s having with you so take a video of her convincing herself that she wants to go out with you. Then send it to her the next day when you invite her out

toasterchild · 2022-03-21T11:14:41+00:00

Because we are busy and sex doesn't rule our lives. We are horny a lot but we have vibrators.

MrSharpham · 2022-03-20T19:28:54+00:00

Girls aren't as horny as guys? Are you serious?

raptorpie747 · 2022-03-20T19:10:47+00:00

Remember, attention is the coin of the realm in the kingdom of women

wtknight · 2022-03-20T17:41:01+00:00

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ExtremeNihilism · 2022-03-20T19:20:42+00:00

Other people are giving you shit, but I don't get this either, at all. If I show interest one day, I'll be interested the next. It's hard to take dating women seriously when you never know if they'll still be interested in you tomorrow. It's one reason I don't advocate young men to get into LTRs--a woman can and will lose interest in you at any time, unless she's serious about finding a man.

redditmcx · 2022-03-20T20:12:05+00:00

It’s a numbers game. She might have chatted with other guys too. Or something about your interaction she didn’t like, something that was revealed when she talked to you. Or maybe she just wanted to flirt with someone but didn’t want more. Or maybe you showed too much interest by texting her the next day and you should have waited a bit longer to get her to sense you have higher value (texting the next day seems desperate). Maybe she actually liked you and is having something today going on such that she doesn’t really want to chat or reply today. I’ve reached out to people and it was 6 days later they replied. People can be flaky and there’s no obligation to give a quick response. Just chill and move on or maybe she’ll reach out later. Don’t put so much weight on a single interaction.

2022-03-20T22:39:23+00:00

You seem ignorant Op, women, especially, beautiful or cute looking ones have endless interactions, endless interactions you would deem positive with men every single month. They also have high sex drives as well and most likely have one or a couple you already fulfilling their sexual needs. And so yeah that’s how girls are, even if they really click with you and have a ton of chemistry they don’t have with other men, if you don’t excite them enough or quickly get them to release the sexual bonding chemicals they released for other guys 100s of times before you ever laid eyes on them? You’re fucking done bro, go sit on the bench. That’s why you sleep with them on the very first night, ONS is fucking dead unlsss you’re super gigs chad & just having fun, you have to carry the entire momentum and energy, after you sleep with them say you really enjoyed meeting them, and what happened last night (the sex) and you’d like to do some physical activity, whatever some time & talk some more. This is how they know you have a connection and aren’t a boring shit since most guys just want to hang out at their places and have lazy slug sex with girls. Go hiking with her or swimming or something, keep being natural and play off all the chemistry. push and pull, if you feel like too much was happening wait a day before you even ask her out after the first night you met her. If you feel attention waning wait a week & be extremely spontaneous in inviting her to do shit you were gonna go to anyway. Alright, I’m done trying to help, in the end complaining does nothing while changing up your strategy can literally mean the difference between finding your future wife & being alone or jumping from situation-ship to situation-ship for a year, you only get one fucking chance as an average man, women get infinite chances thrown at them so of course it means less. But when they fall in love with a compatible guy that gives them good love, attention, and sex … all their 3 major needs? They can begin treating you & seeing you like a human being too

petechamp · 2022-03-21T10:30:48+00:00

Man gets rejected by woman who he thinks is attracted to him enough to date him. Man blames society.

OldSimpsonsisbetter · 2022-03-21T12:22:00+00:00

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Luisd858 · 2022-03-20T20:58:48+00:00

In general yes I agree. Women have too many options thus causing them the inability to choose. Tinder and IG have ruined the dating scene

Lotus_82 · 2022-03-20T20:20:24+00:00

Dude you never text the very next day, that’s a rookie move and it makes you look needy and desperate, which are obviously red flags.

Give it at least 72 hours and even then I usually wait for the girl to make the first move.

BlackPorcelainDoll · 2022-03-21T00:19:53+00:00

This is completely false. If she's leaving, there is no genuine chemistry. Women are total clingers for a genuinely sexy man and "polite" laugh, banter and smile with sexually unattractive/unfunny men all the time per socialization.

mc0079 · 2022-03-21T16:38:51+00:00

Dude....it's not that deep. You struck out. Take the L

kdkdkd64664 · 2022-03-21T00:43:44+00:00

You met a woman ONE time. Waited ONE day with no response. Then immediately logged into Reddit and complain about how the reason she hasn’t replied to you yet is because “women have too many options”. I think you have some stuff to work out before getting anyone’s phone number. I’m sorry but this isn’t reasonable.

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2022-03-20T19:49:31+00:00

While I do admit that there are more options out there, chemistry implies that they are also getting stimulated on the excitement and mystique factor. Women always chased these things despite the kindness of eligible men. None of the Bad Boy chasing is particularly new.

onedamnman · 2022-03-20T20:03:03+00:00

I live in a ski resort town and I’m finding this to be a big problem.

2022-03-20T20:10:40+00:00

Imagine going to a supper market that only sold wine. 100s and 100s of options to taste, but you can only select one, and once you choose your one, you never go to go to the supermarket again.

This is what dating is like for young women. (She is not yours; it's just your turn.)

OrwellianHell · 2022-03-20T20:23:35+00:00

How do you establish "genuine mutual attraction" if you approach and talk to the women in the first place?

ffandyy · 2022-03-20T20:27:20+00:00

The girl in your scenario was probably just out having a fun night and isn’t looking for a dude lol

2022-03-20T20:34:50+00:00

There actually might be a good number of reasons she wouldn’t/hasn’t answered that might not be as negative as you think.

Yeah, she could have other guys she’s involved more/closer with at the moment. But she could also be actually single as fuck, you were the first hot guy she got along great with in a while, and she just doesn’t know what to do next, and may be a little anxious/nervous about getting more intimate with anybody, so she won’t have quick responses regardless of how much she does or doesn’t like you.

Other possibilities are that she’s not really looking for anything being public socializing right now. Some people just like being out and about to just talk to random people without looking to take it to something further or progress along a relationship or sexual path with specific individuals, and this goes for anybody, regardless of gender. Some people are more attached to specific places, activities, and kinds of interactions than they are actual people and relationships within that, and that may be the case with her.

That being said, I understand the frustration of sincerely believing you and her had a specific vibe/chemistry and not seeing your belief reflected/confirmed in how she is or isn’t communicating to you later on. I’ve had it happen to me a lot, and sometimes it was pretty clear to see that I just wasn’t the most appealing man salad on the bar that night, and sometimes it was a bit of her not being really authentic with me. But, more often than not, it just meant we had different frames of mind, and it was probably better if we weren’t friends anyway. Nowadays, I just forget and ignore people if they don’t come to the thing with the same energy I bring to it, and it’s been a lot healthier for my life.

Counter_Proposition · 2022-03-20T20:37:50+00:00

It happens. A few months ago back when I was single I was chatting up a cute blonde at a bar. We were on the back patio smoking and it was relatively private, so I made a move and it worked. We made out for a bit and then exchanged numbers.

I text her the next day about the band we were talking about……and nothing. Chalk it up to just being drunk. 🤷🏻‍♂️

I say just take the L and move on.

divingrose77101 · 2022-03-20T20:41:39+00:00

I talk to a lot of men I don’t want to date. I even find some of them attractive and we have good chemistry. I still don’t want to date them. It just is what it is.

jizzysox · 2022-03-20T20:41:41+00:00

Can’t control em.People are gonna do what they’re gonna do. In a week you won’t care and it’s on to the next.

7186997326 · 2022-03-20T21:08:10+00:00

Bah, women in the dating market today got a fraction of the leverage compared to say, sellers in this real estate market, so I guess just be happy you are looking for a date and not a house.

2022-03-20T21:08:59+00:00

it may hurt now, but you just have to keep on trucking. it’s apart of life and the whole human dating experience. you’re going to miss out on a lot if you stay caught up on small interactions like this

beigesun · 2022-03-20T21:11:07+00:00

U met 1 girl on a night out n r complaining? Cmon man get ur numbers up

jasmine_tea_ · 2022-03-20T21:32:24+00:00

If it's any consolation this happens to women too, esp. if we take the initiative.

2022-03-20T21:33:36+00:00

You're new to this I see. Girls emotions fluctuate a lot. They don't have the same feeling when they have their number to a random guy when slightly buzzed compared to waking up the next day sober.

You didn't leave a good enough impression on her so she didn't respond. It happens. Almost all the women I got numbers from in bars flaked the next day even if we kissed. This is why I stopped using bars to meet women. Social events and OLD have much better success rates.

2022-03-20T21:48:54+00:00

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Exciting_Phase_1665 · 2022-03-20T22:24:25+00:00

Blah blah blah who cares

raccoon_mario_popoff · 2022-03-20T22:33:48+00:00

There will be a dating revolution within my lifetime. Average and below-average men will date sexbots, while top-tier men are shared among the majority of women.

Ok_Razzmatazz_1751 · 2022-03-20T22:34:01+00:00

Out of control ? So if you had the control it would be so much better , hahaha Geeze...

FoxCQC · 2022-03-20T22:56:10+00:00

It's never as good as the first meeting

Flightlessbirbz · 2022-03-21T00:10:33+00:00

Yeah someone being a bit flirty with you at a bar means... not much at all. Plus it’s only been 24 hrs. Many people intentionally wait 1-3 days to contact someone they just met, so as not to seem desperate. Or sometimes the person you were having a fun time with tipsy on a night out just doesn’t seem like a priority the next day when more mundane duties call. Women deal with this type of behavior from men and other women too. I’m a woman who is in a relationship but will frequently exchange info with other women I was chatting with at the bar, hoping to make plans to hang out as friends sometimes. Pretty much never hear from them. This is just an unfortunate fact of life.

DeJuanBallard · 2022-03-21T00:54:25+00:00

Facts!

2022-03-21T01:05:02+00:00

sometimes girls at bars/clubs just want to flirt and get attention for her looks, but she probably won't see/talk to any guy she meets even if he gets her number.

Rickyrider35 · 2022-03-21T01:10:28+00:00

Quick tip for men looking for love: don’t text girls the day after the first date. If they’re dating around they’re probably talking to 3-4 guys at the same time, and unless you’re a 9-10 to them they’re gonna get turned off by you instantly chasing.

Yes I know “playing the game” is annoying and seems to make the connection artificial but to be fair if you text the same day it shows you’ve got nothing else in your head than the girl. It looks clingy, and it’s unattractive.

omegajelly200 · 2022-03-21T01:17:11+00:00

Talked for a bit, laughs and smiles. Exchanged info. Nothing today, and not the first time this has happened. Why do girls do this?

LOL I'll tell you why.

Girls will always pretend to be interested to politely reject someone.

You wanna know if a girl really genuinely TOTALLY wants you? If she makes the first move. If she follows you. If she calls you.

Hence the iron-clad rule of male seduction: do NOT chase women, or else you are going to suffer through a lot of false signals like what you are going through now.

Muffcakelord · 2022-03-21T01:18:56+00:00

They probably sense that you're bad news because of your general vibe and attitude, especially since you're waiting for them to contact you

2022-03-21T01:20:09+00:00

I got better things to do with my time than be a circus act. Men need to stop being clowns.

Ok_Entrepreneur_6282 · 2022-03-21T02:38:04+00:00

Okay I don’t even agree with the first part of your argument. Women may have more options, however those options seem less important or valuable because of the added safety concerns and other considerations that men don’t have to think about.

OldSimpsonsisbetter · 2022-03-21T08:41:01+00:00

This is going to suck to hear, I know, because I got this advice before going from a complete loser to a womanizer that has constantly a lot of women around for fucking mostly (working now on building relationships, because they all leave and come back only for fucking). But it's your responsibility. It's not your fault, but it's your responsibility. It's very easy to blame someone else and free yourself from any responsibility. But just like when someone leaves a baby in front of your door it's not your fault but you are now responsible for it.

Anyways, if you want to find insane abundance. All you need to do is seek for it, read every book, watch every video and eventually something might click it might take a day a week a month or a year but if you seek you will find. Oh and of course the first few weeks of change suck, so look forward to that, don't worry about it tho, it generally means change is happening and soon things will get better.

Hmu if you need any advice

JameisBong · 2022-03-21T13:39:12+00:00

They have an abundance of bad choices, like being surrounded with fast food restaurants with no real sit down quality restaurants to choose from.

turned_wand · 2022-03-21T14:21:47+00:00

The next day is too soon. It comes across as needy.

Bruhmuh · 2022-03-21T14:46:31+00:00

Playing dark souls on new game + with one hand leaves me less frustrated than trying to hook up.

50 cent was wrong. It is ''Get rich or stop trying".

Sufficient-Parsnip92 · 2022-03-22T15:06:37+00:00

What you think is a genuine mutual attraction isn't genuine from the other persons standpoint.

The abundance of options women have has gotten so out of control that even genuine mutual attraction and chemistry aren’t enough to keep their attention

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congratulations you are so SMART! You’ll will the nobel prize one day!

That is why ANY not too unhealthy woman can walk into a bar and get out with a sex partner.

Title	The abundance of options women have has gotten so out of control that even genuine mutual attraction and chemistry aren’t enough to keep their attention
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