I’m not talking about spineless betas feigning kindness to get laid. That narrative was cooked up by feminists aiming to once again deflect and diminish the very real disparity between what they say they want and what they actually want.
At this point I’m not entirely sure if the persistent “nice guy” narrative and villainization of men who refer to themselves as nice originated with women’s embarrassment at their own sexual triggers and psychology or resentment of men for calling them out on being dishonest about it. Likely a combination of the two. They attempt to shut the conversation down before it even starts with “oh let me guess you’re a “nice” guy or on Facebook by tagging any number of groups “I said I’m a nice guy b****” or “not all men, but definitely this one” or the corny “I put the niceness coins in why didn’t the sex fall out?”
The most infuriating is when they say “being nice is not a personality trait” or “it’s the bare minimum.” The absolute most obnoxious is “women don’t owe you sex” which very few men actually think.
To be clear, this is NOT explained away in terms of simple physical attractiveness - ie “women don’t care HOW you behave it’s all about looks.” This is obviously bullshit, I have seen extremely attractive men fail time and time again for being too submissive or nice. Women may notice a good looking guy, but his behavior is what seduces her 99.999% of the time. Additionally, my own personal experience as an attractive male I can tell you first hand my results skyrocketed when I changed my behavior.
Either way, it is pretty obvious that they do not want genuinely wholesome and nice men, and I think this is the foundation of TRP. Countless men can attest to their experience with improved success upon ceasing the irresponsible advice indoctrinated to them by their mothers and an increasingly gynocentric culture that stigmatizes the behaviors that women are genuinely attracted to by labeling them “toxic masculinity.”
I can personally say with 100% certainty that I saw a night and day difference in my results after going through the “anger” phase all men experience when they hit rock bottom after trying every possible way to be the hopeless romantic women insist they desire and coming up empty handed. In fact, it goes well beyond being more “confident” and “assertive.” I have had markedly better results when I am genuinely a dick to women. I hear people say “those are just toxic women” or “you shouldn’t want those types anyway” but I’ve had these same results with genuinely good girls, not just trashy bar hoes or TikTok thots.
The reason for this I believe is two things. The first one is the big elephant in the room that nobody seems to want to acknowledge. Women like dominant men. The very act of sex is an aggressive, submissive act for them and they have even become extremely open about how rough they like it to be. It goes well beyond spanking and choking, I’ve had girls legit ask me to hit them and throw them. You can’t say that this desire does not carry over or translate into what turns them on in terms of behavior. Obviously not in the physical sense but psychologically women are drawn to men who don’t give a shit, who are dominant and imposing enough to protect them and their offspring.
The second is the effect of the vast majority of men showering women with compliments and exhibiting the same type of behavior. Of course it has become ineffective, if it ever was to begin with.
TLDR: Women are dishonest with what they say they truly want in a man, causing a continual conflict and adding to an already bad situation regarding dating and gender dynamics. They then lash out on men when they voice their understandable frustration with this dishonesty by shaming them in order to silence them, creating a seemingly endless cycle of hostility between the genders.
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