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I can’t comment on /r/worldnews so I am saying this here.

First of all, I absolutely detest smug comments under every post related to Russo-Ukraine war. The war is real, Ukrainians are losing life and property. They probably don’t find these smug comments about Russian incompetence funny.

Second, the narrative surrounding nuclear weapons use is so high on hopium that the prevalent narrative is that as soon as Russia uses a nuke in Ukraine then their entire Black Sea fleet will be drowned. That essentially means declaring full scale war with Russia, which brings me to the next point.

That Russian nuclear stockpile and delivery platforms are in shambles. Most of them will be wiped out in first strike, most of the remaining would not work, the few that goes through will kill some millions here and there but the entirety of Russia would be turned into glass as in, nuked to oblivion. Now tell me few things:

Do you feel keen to find out if you will be able to destroy most of them before they are launched? If they work at all? Quite brave I say.
Is there a kilometre thick glass wall reaching to upper stratosphere surrounding Russia that will prevent nuclear fallout from drifting into Europe, Asia when you bomb the shit out of a country as large as Russia? Americans, being the overconfident warmongers they are might jizz their pants at the prospects of using their shiny toys on Russia but Europeans and Asians will have to endure worst of the fallout. They won’t be too happy with them losing their lives when they didn’t get a say in if Ukrainian liberty is worth dying for.

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In my view, the actual people running the war are not stupid and they will not get directly involved unless they have absolutely no other choice, for example attack on a NATO country. However, I refuse to believe that use of tactical nukes on Ukrainian soil would be reason enough to engage with Russia directly. Because once the conflict with Russia turns direct, our lives, especially in Europe will be completely uncertain on day to day basis.

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Another example of why dating advice by women sucks. If youre not a top tier man you cant afford to unmatch because you might not get a nother match for days/weeks.

Every few day matches/weekly matches are not a bad release rates.

40% of relationships start with online dating. A vast majority of men in the US are dating and/or having regular sex. 85% are having at least semi-regular sex.

Some apps have a much better gender ratio than others.

1 to 2 matches a day is very good!

I'm dating a short guy he got about 10 matches a week (we're in a top five largest cities in the US though) before we met. He dated some of them, but had to end it with a few when they weren't compatible after a few dates.

Absolutely most online dating won't work unless you live in or near a big city, but most of the US population does.

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I was very flirty and assertive. I chose the right time, and I chose to focus on the positives. I decided to fiece myself to be confident instead of nervous, as I had literally nothing to lose.

Flirted throughout the WHOLE day, not my usual cutesy wife stuff but like dirty flirty, direct but not pushy
Explained what I want, and even then he pretended like he didn't get that I could want him. Men, lmao. Again, I was JUST direct enough without getting pushy or accusatory. I probably would have been too afraid to do this before, or even thought about overtly sexualizing myself. I used to be TOO direct maybe, like "I want sex." Maybe that's not sexy, tbh.
Chose my timing wisely when we were both clean and in between meals and the chores were done
Planned cuddly movie time afterwards
Had lots of fun

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I was very flirty and assertive. I chose the right time, and I chose to focus on the positives. I decided to fiece myself to be confident instead of nervous, as I had literally nothing to lose.

Flirted throughout the WHOLE day, not my usual cutesy wife stuff but like dirty flirty, direct but not pushy
Explained what I want, and even then he pretended like he didn't get that I could want him. Men, lmao. Again, I was JUST direct enough without getting pushy or accusatory. I probably would have been too afraid to do this before, or even thought about overtly sexualizing myself. I used to be TOO direct maybe, like "I want sex." Maybe that's not sexy, tbh.
Chose my timing wisely when we were both clean and in between meals and the chores were done
Planned cuddly movie time afterwards
Had lots of fun

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Ignores the obvious goal post moving.

Your point is that men don't notice the abundance of female antagonists. I don't think it's fair to accuse men of not noticing features of media that is not produced for an audience that generally includes men.

Congratulations, you just debunked the initial claim and strengthened my theory on this being willful ignorance on men’s part

Just keeping score here:According to what you quoted, the initial claim is that "the popular perception of women in the late 90s/early 00s was that they could do no wrong."

Your counterargument is that there is an abundance of female antagonists.

I countered that I struggle to think of many female antagonists. Supporting point to the initial claim.

You still have not supported your counterargument at all, other than implying without any evidence that I'm being willfully ignorant.

Initial claim: 1. Your counterargument: 0.

Tip: The easy way to strengthen both your counterargument and your accusation of my willful ignorance is to present some examples of this alleged abundance of female antagonists in the late 90s. I'm genuinely curious and would appreciate the nostalgia trip.

Edit: I thought of another one for you. Demona from Gargoyles, (although she was arguably more sympathetic than the male villains on the show.)

Another: Mystique - Same issue as Demona.

Edit #2: Bellatrix LeStrange. Delores Umbridge

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Women were perceived as mysterious beings who no man could ever understand.

Mulan was portrayed as a mysterious being who no man could ever understand?

Belle from Beauty And The Beast was portrayed as a mysterious being who no man could ever understand?

Jane from Tarzan was portrayed as a mysterious being who no man could ever understand?

I’m just curious how that mindset work for the three female protagonist of three very popular Disney movies of the 90s.

It was taboo to criticize women,

Mean Girls was a 2004 film about two teen girls playing petty stupid games against each other. What do you mean women couldnt be criticized? Or do you mean you couldn’t be sexist against women?

What about Powerpuff girls, a show created BY A MAN, featuring an episode in 2000 of the girls lecturing a man-hating radical feminist villain about what true equality means? I’ve never seen anyone hate that episode.

Family courts were heavily biased against men.

Provide statistics and evidence, please.

Domestic cases were heavily biased against men.

Statistics and evidence please. Though, I do predict your research is going to reveal that male abusers were more likely to brutally attack, if not kill, their victims more than female abusers,

Women were much friendlier and tolerable due to lack of social media.

That implies you’re chronically online and need to get off it.

Being anti-fat was still okay.

Being an asshole has never been okay. There’s a difference between acknowledging being fat is unhealthy and just being complete asshole to people with a few pounds on them.

Women weren't insane virtue signalling SJWs (that started in 2012)

Points back to Powerpuff girl episode on a feminist and that Feminism was definitely a big thing back then. Did you forget that Hillary Clinton and Ruth Bader Ginsburg were 90s feminist icons?

men weren't perceived as opportunistic rapists

Dude, Manosphere themselves portray men are opportunistic predators, and will promote the idea that men will do anything and everything to get sex, as long as they can get away with it.

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society told me all women are wonderful

Society sure does act like it. “Believe all women”. Women never lie and are pure in every single circumstance.

never care about looks

I think society tries to downplay looks, but even if looks are a factor (which they are) a 6 looking guy and a 6 looking girl aren’t on the same playing field in their 20’s at least. No body shaming is one example of society attempting to downplay looks. Victoria secret hiring fat models.

From what info I can gather

Bias much? The info you choose to believe vs the info you choose to ignore because it doesn’t fit the narrative.

Proof of these claims against women

Look at society. Look at female teachers and role models. Do you think they’re pushing the RP narrative or the BP narrative? Single moms are telling men to be BB’s and not put too much stock into looks because that’s what she did and it turned out horribly. Every older married couple will tell you looks fade fast. You don’t need to search far and wide for these claims, they’re said right here on Reddit.

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he's out with his single friends. Let's see

I know his friends. The vast majority of them aren't single rn, but let's pretend. The guys he's most likely to go clubbing with are our mutual friends, I've been their friend longer than he has. It's very likely that one of our mutual girl friends is there too. His other friends are normal guys.

many of which are more attractive than you

I know he finds me very attractive, we have a fulfilling sex life and he loves me. A girl having a "0.5 points prettier face" isn't going to change that.

many that could probably be a better partner than you.

Hahahah press x to doubt

They're feeding him drinks all night,

If he accepts more than one drink he's for the streets. I trust him lol

getting him drunk

Lmao bitch try to get a 6'5 215 lbs dude drunk

Would you still be comfortable knowing all that was happening?

Yes. There's nuance to everything. I wouldn't be jealous if my man went to a club without me, I know how I behave at the club and why I go. (by club, I mean a rock club/underground place, not some fancy place where people are grinding against each other or whatever lol)

I'd probably be envious if he went out without me, as that would mean there is a good excuse why I can't go out.

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Why does everyone only focus on one side of cold approaches: How the male feels about it. There are two people here.

I see posts all the time from men who are highly socially disturbed (Redditors.txt) and the comments telling them "Don't worry about your anxiety! It's okay! Just talk to women! You'll get better at it!" But like..talking to women isn't like going to the gym and using an inaminate object, it involves another person.

And women don't want to deal with these guys. Obviously. Like just try to put yourself into their shoes.

Do you want to deal with an autistic Reddit neckbard when going to get grocieres? Or at the gym? Or at literally any time.

This advice actually extends to most of the "real life" advice I see given on here.

Are you people really telling a fucking redditor to go pick women up in a bar? Really? Reallly? Come on. Even that statement sounds fucking absurd on it's face.

I would advocate for them to do it only if they record it so that we can laugh at them afterwards.

It feels like there is just a derth, a complete void of any empathy for the women who have to deal with these cold approaches from these fucking losers.

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How many women have to "not want to deal with" a given guy before you conclude that ideally they should never talk to any woman?

They know before they even talk to women they just lack the ability to accept it.

If in fact women are incredibly variable in their tastes

Why do you say "if". Women are incredibly varied in their tastes.

Nobodies tastes includes autistic Redditors.

There is a wide varitey in how people like their food. Nobody likes their food with cow shit and piss inside on it.

That's a jail

I'm pretty sure a jail is a place you go after you are sentenced by a court of law, that you cannot leave, that is protected by guards to make sure you cannot leave.

I'm not sure that telling losers to fuck off is sentencing them in a court of law and then putting them in a building surrounded by guards they cannot leave.

At least I don't think these two things are the same thing. I think they're different.

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PSA: blackpill does not mean you hate women, are a neckbeard, are a virgin, or have a shit personality. The only real consistent core belief of blackpill and its subvariants (looksmaxxers, incls, chadfishers, etc) is that physical appearance explains 80-90% of the variance in men’s dating outcomes. Even the most hardcore incels acknowledge that having extreme social anxiety or severe autism would hinder even a good-looking guy’s prospect, but severe autism and total agoraphobia are rare diseases.

Nearly every time I express a blackpill view, someone assumes I live in my mom’s basement or I’m a virgin. One’s life situation and sexual past has very little to do with blackpill. If you are a male model and you think you get girls because you have model-tier looks, that’s a blackpill view.

Before someone says “every adult knows that good-looking people get more dates,” remember that I am asserting that 90% of the variance is explained by looks. This means that unless there is an extenuating circumstance like the mental illnesses I listed, if a guy isn’t getting laid and can’t get a girlfriend, it’s because of his looks and “going out more” isn’t going to change shit.

Mods I know that I am close to the edge here but I just wanted to clear up this misconception. I am not a doomer, I am not waiting for sexbots, I have a healthy social life and while my dating life could be better, I have had girlfriends, FWBs, you name it. However I am under no illusions that I got these women because of my personality. I’m 6’2” and athletic (I can deadlift 500# but unfortunately don’t look that jacked). When I am in peak shape, I have done fairly absurd things like taking home a woman 10 years younger than me after talking for 15 minutes at a bar. When I am chubby this doesn’t happen and my jokes suddenly aren’t funny.

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You’re literally talking about male models

Yes and my entire point is that they wouldn't be male models if they weren't low body fat. People in general don't realize how important low body fat levels are for facial aesthetics. Bones = Everything, bones can't be seen when fat obscures them, hence low body fat in your face is required for facial attractiveness. Models are only models because of their bones(and to some degree skin) which is why male models are super lean.

Those fat models aren’t attractive and are repulsive to me but because men have a wide range of taste, some consider them attractive.

Women also feel like this about men you know? Like we are not that different when it comes to preferences, the non-masculine part can be made up by your personality to a great degree, especially in modern society where we are not clubbing people left and right. Finding a chubby face attractive is hard-coded for most women not to like, there is no way of getting around that.

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but that's the point, in most sports men have the advantage because they are taller, faster and stronger. That's why most sports are split by gender so that women can compete and not be pushed out of the sport.

When we finished highschool, in my country, there was an exam that had multiple parts. In one of those part you could choose between history, geography, economics and sports. Most of us chose sports because we didn't want to spend time learning geography or something like that. One of the things we had to do at sports was to run a fast time. In order to get maximum points you had to run under X for men and under Y for women. men and women had different targets because if we all had X, no woman could reach it and if we all had Y, all men would reach it without any effort. And remember this was just your average highschool class with average people, not some elite sports team.

if sports were segregated by gender, they would all be men's sports. for example the NBA has no rules against women playing, but it's obvious why no woman plays.

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This isn’t accurate with regards to gymnastics.

If men and women went head to head on their shared apparatuses, men would win basically every time. They perform more difficult skills, including ones women have either never landed in competition or only very few have ever landed. Skills considered very difficult in women’s gymnastics are fairly routine in men’s. (I see below you said men are “worse” at the shared apparatuses and I have no idea what you’re referring to; on both floor and vault men perform more difficult skills than women.)

Gymnastics is heavily coded as female and as a result female athletes are far more celebrated, but if they were to compete against men on shared apparatuses men would largely dominate. And women would likely not be competitive at all on the male-only apparatuses, as they demand immense upper-body strength that women just do not have.

I do not say this as a negative commentary on women in sport. There’s just a reason we don’t compete against men; our performance and excellence is rightly judged in competition against other women. Whether some sports are seen as particularly female-dominated doesn’t mean we’d best men in head to head competition.

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What sports are perceived as “women’s sports” has more to do with culture, not physical ability.

A good high school boys’ volleyball team would beat a top women’s team, no problem. As another example, gymnastics is often described as a sport women are “better at,” but male gymnasts perform skills that female ones cannot do or only the absolute best can do; it’s just that the sport is coded as feminine and thus female athletes are far more celebrated. If male gymnasts went up against female gymnasts on their shared apparatuses (floor and vault), the men would win basically every time.

There are no sports where women are or would be outright “better” than men overall in a head-to-head, and only a couple where they are equal or very close to equal: equestrian, for the obvious reasons, and ski jumping also has only had a very comparatively narrow gender performance gap that may very well be eliminated as more women compete and more women’s events open up.

I say this without negative judgment. Just that this is why men and women don’t compete against each other.

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The story of that guy who beat the Williams sisters is a fun one.

Another event dubbed a "Battle of the Sexes" took place during the 1998 Australian Open[60] between Karsten Braasch and the Williams sisters. Venus and Serena Williams had claimed that they could beat any male player ranked outside the world's top 200, so Braasch, then ranked 203rd, challenged them both. Braasch was described by one journalist as "a man whose training regime centered around a pack of cigarettes and more than a couple of bottles of ice cold lager".[61][60] The matches took place on court number 12 in Melbourne Park,[62] after Braasch had finished a round of golf and two shandies. He first took on Serena and after leading 5–0, beat her 6–1. Venus then walked on court and again Braasch was victorious, this time winning 6–2.[60] Braasch said afterwards, "500 and above, no chance." He added that he had played like someone ranked 600th in order to keep the game "fun"[63] and that the big difference was that men can chase down shots much more easily and put spin on the ball that female players could not handle. The Williams sisters adjusted their claim to beating men outside the top 350.[60]

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Based on another comment I read here, it made me think of it, one of the weirdest fucking things that the red pill has, IMO, is this huge emphasis on fighting and "Muh masculinity" and confidence around combat sports.

I've wrestled since I was very young, always sucked to be fair went to state in high school and got my ass kicked, and club wrestled in college (OSU, so good luck making the team they're if you're not one of the best in the nation, I definitely couldn't) and have in the past 3 years picked up BJJ (blue, 8-1 at blue in comp) and muay thai.

I didn't really realize how unbelivably dominating wrestling is against someone who isn't trained util recently.

But like the fact that people get something out of this more than "I enjoy combat sports" blows my mind. The way people talk about this shit is like it's almost mystical.

Specifically around the confidence part. I am confident that I can beat the fuck out of anyone who isn't a trained fighter at at least an amateur level. But in what world am I going around saying to myself "Damn if someone attacks me right now I can totally defend myself I'm so bad ass and confident", in what world, what universe is being attacked somethign that's even near the forefront of your mind?

It just feels weird as fuck to me.

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It's about the way you carry yourself. If you live in a moderately dangerous area or poor community you could never imagine writing something like this

in what world, what universe is being attacked somethign that's even near the forefront of your mind?

To me, most rp internet kids don't have to worry about getting jumped. Lifting and knowing how to defend themselves just gives you a little natural boost to posture and self confidence instead of constant anxiety. What you tend to notice is people who live in very safe environments are actually more likely to be disproportionately anxious because its so safe their threat detection becomes hyper sensitive. It explains the suburban kids scared to answer a doorbell and the hood kids who are used to seeing someone get jumped weekly so they're kinda chill unless something real is going down. In my experience at least. Ive seen both worlds.

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This guy isn't having "intrusive" thoughts. This guy has lost respect and value towards his romantic partner for the sexual acts she engaged in with an ex. He is disgusted by her an no longer sees her as a human of worth or value. Now that he views her as a sexual toy he wants to leveage his disgust into getting the same sexual use that other males received from her before disgarding her. Which is why he wont break up with her. He wants to use her sexually as other males have irrespective of her interest or pleasure because he no longer sees her as anything other than a sexual toy. Which is why he's justifying to himself that he dserves to use her sexually despite knowing she doesn't derive any pleasure nor does she want to engage in the sexual act that he's demanding.

He doesn't see her as a person or a partner anymore and he never will.

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Men and women engaging sex acts that they don't want to engage in aren't "rewarding" anyone. They're either have autonomy problems due to past sexual truama. Or they're in an abusive relationship where their partner doesn't take "no" for an answer and will manipulate or force sex out of them through hostility or the threat of rejection. It's harming to the person who doesn't want sex and it's harmful to the overall relationship.

People with anitpersonality or narcissitic traits can't comprehend how damaging it is to force or demand someone into sexual acts they have no interest in.

People who are constantly having sex they don't want because sex repulsed and resentful towards the person who doesn't respect or care for their sexual pleasure. Ultimately damaging the relationship often to the point of demise.

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She been pretty disrespectful lately. We've both been promoted to supervisors at our job and two weeks back she gave me shit for not telling her and the other supervisors about an important task that i was given regarding the training of new employees. I apologized because her reasoning at the time was sound.

Then a few days later i gave her shit for doing basically the same thing regarding a new hiring decision, which i randomly found out from someone else, something me and the other supervisors need to be informed about.

Then the other day she was being totally bitchy towards me and not even looking at me when i was trying to talk to her about something important regarding employee training.

I told her basically that it she should please look at me when talking to me, which she disregarded citing some other duty she had no problem ignoring when talking to someone else. She also has no problem completely ignoring work when loudly gossiping with her girl clique.

Later i found out, by one of my bros, that when another employee started bitching about my supervising the other day she chimed in and didn't tell me about it even tho, according to our bosses, that is her duty because we need to be professional.

She treated my idea of how we could more efficiently train the employees like dogshit and said "i don't care you can't tell me what to do" and i plain said to her "idk wtf your problem is with me but we need to work as a team here so you're attitude isn't helping".

Well, that might've been a bit much detail but its been really annoying.

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No it’s not proof of our bonding it’s naive. If it were pair bonding virgins wouldn’t end up in dead bead rooms, and we had a thread about that yesterday.

The more people you sleep with (within reason I’m talking about like in relationships) you bet the r learn what is good for you and how to please.

I’ve never been happier sexually than I am with my husband. I’m 18n

We even have children now and it hasn’t slowed down. Immediately you know when someone is hitting the right spots and even more so when they want to communicate with you and want to please you.

Sexual incompatibility is mainly due to different desires such as different kinks, different libidos or different ideas on how you should have sex. Communication with these people is only going to help so much. Sex can and should be amazing.

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Straight up it’s not that it’s “wrong” it’s just “eh,” basic advice with some “women bad” added in for some reason.

Lift, hustle, socialize. Nothing wrong with any of that. But now GO DO IT! Too much RP is talking about RP and “how bluepill lied” blah blah and not fucking lifting!
And this might ruffle feathers but a lot of dudes aren’t built for casual and all it takes is an encounter or two to get rid of the FOMO and be like “you know what, having a GF is what i really want”

Know who you are and what you are about. Figure out what you really value. And then be the best of those things. And lift others up by being that person. (In real life: real work, real progress, real people, real examples). Not this “I know the truth I’m really the plate spinning alpha not like those blue pilled Simps” character every RP disciple starts sounding like.

Socialize and be the best you you can. And be unapologetic. And stop being so afraid! Dudes act like a rejection is a death sentence. Take the Ls. Then savor the Ws.

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Any other guys getting tired of matching with physically beautiful, albeit older, women who just have PROBLEMS after coming back from a self improvement binge.

I feel like the self improvement cycle filters out many women I would've been ok hanging out with now, by actually becoming "better", I'm whittling away at my pool of women I'd be happy with, it makes no sense.

I'm really bummed coming out of this latest cycle, my fitness is really getting on point, finances are reaching a point where a lot would need to be gained to tangibly move the needle. I read, i write. Only to match up with really, really underdeveloped women who, quite frankly, coasted. They coasted on their good looks, their spouses, their rigid degrees and careers.

It's weird to match with them now, and I can confidently feel "I'm better than you. Why are you the only thing I can attract? "

Don't mind me, just a blue day today.

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If your cycles of self-improvement are whittling away at the pool of women you would be happy with, I have to question whether or not it is genuine self-improvement.

Self-improvement - that is to say, betterment of the spirit and soul - ought to be widening your worldview, challenging your perspectives, opening your heart, inviting in deeper and richer experiences, and encouraging you to embrace the ineffable beauty of humanity, including all its messiness, all its "underdeveloped" members. True betterment should not narrow your vision, it should not shrink what you will accept. It should not isolate you. It should push you outward.

Being well-read and well-spoken is a wonderful thing. But being unable to connect with a human who is less intelligent than you is a clear failing. It strikes me as a matter of having deep intellect, but very little wisdom. Perhaps that's the next cycle of self-improvement you could focus on. Doing so may help guide you towards forming deeper, more meaningful romantic connections.

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Bull. These numbers don't make any sense. Over 80% of dating app users at any given time are male and women are abandoning dating apps in droves. The female "users" on dating apps don't even include abandoned profiles, scam profiles, or bots. It is not possible, nor has it ever been possible for 40-50% of all couples on Earth to have met through dating apps.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/975984/us-bumble-user-ratio-gender/

Idk why you males simply refuse to believe that these dating apps LIE to you female use and engagement of these apps. They have always lied since their inception.

The desperation for dating apps to be representative of the "real" dating world is just not happening.

Most people are not dating IRL and using apps. They literally only are using dating apps and whining that they don't work despite being told time and time again that it's always been a very poor medium for dating to begin with.

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https://www.statista.com/statistics/975984/us-bumble-user-ratio-gender/

You are using old data.

It varies month to month (some months in 2022 being almost 50/50) but in October 2022 it was 43% women and 57% men.

Idk why you males

I'm a woman....

People are leaving Tinder for Bumble. Bumbles user numbers have been on the rise and Tinder's have been plummeting.

Here is the study regarding the percentage of relationships beginning online.

https://news.stanford.edu/2019/08/21/online-dating-popular-way-u-s-couples-meet/

It has trended up since then and is expected to be over 50% before the end of the decade.

Most people are not dating IRL and using apps.

Most relationships are beginning online. Most online dating is done through apps.

This is US specific so perhaps you are doubting because you have data from another country?

You make think it's a poor medium for dating to begin with but the data shows for most people it isn't.

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You have a lot to learn about relationships. And it’s woman singular and women plural.

Your partner should be encouraging you if that’s what you feel you need. You should each be helping one another be better people.

What do you mean not competitive stuff? You guys could take a jiu jitsu or self defense class, go to the gym together. My friends, their partners and me and my guy just signed up for a beer league sports teams. We are going to be doing air hockey and then beach volley ball in the summer. Might do whirlyball if space opens up.

We also go to trivia and do stuff like that. I was doing mma a bit before I met my guy and he is going to the gym with me now. It’s way more fun and less awkward to do the holds and stuff on him. Plus I think he feels good knowing I can take care of myself in a pinch.

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First to say first

Which one of you wrote this

Meet the most desired men on dating apps

We all know about the men who fail at dating apps. The men we sometimes call incels. The men whose Hinge acts like it’s stuck in airplane mode. The men whose only experience of eye contact with a woman happens on TikTok. The men with no likes. The men who cope and seethe online. But what about the chads?

A chad is the opposite of an incel. He’s an alpha male whose exceptional good looks make picking a date feel like flicking through Top Trumps. Chad’s modern roots as a meme lie in the increasing body of research and surveys on dating apps, which indicate that in any given pool of men, women tend to court the most desirable – and ignore the rest. This top tier of men are understood to dominate on apps, accrue the most likes, get all the dates, and presumably have financial security, enviable jobs, a strong jaw, and a hairline that holds formation like the Spartan army.

Tldr Chad Only

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It's most often seem to refer to not sharing the emotional and physical load of basic logistics and labor of maintaining a home, keeping track of social events with mutual friends, taking care of dental/medical appointments, taking care of kids if applicable.

People acting inept instead of learning how to adult.

It can definitely be a compatibility thing too. I do not have skills in the kitchen but have no problem preparing healthy tasty meals for myself, but they are nothing I would think was worthy of serving to another in most cases. (This after more than a decade of practice with videos, recipe books, classes, and the guidance of all the skilled chefs in my family). I'm just hopeless with it. I can understand that it may be a compatibility issue for some, but in my case it works out well. I'm better at cleaning up so when I am having a dinner at my place or his, he cooks and I clean. I contribute to groceries too when he's cooking so the second plate he's fixing me doesn't cause him any excess ultimately in grocery bills.

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I worked in a cure-the-symptoms nonprofit (legal aid where we helped with people facing evictions/foreclosures, bankruptcies, disability cases, etc.)

I would say it's not so much that people are "fine" with curing the symptoms - I was well-aware that I was just slapping bandaids over wounds, trying to keep people afloat when they would inevitably start sinking again a few months later. But I was also aware that there was a need for those bandaids, because systemic change tackling the root cause is slow, complex, difficult, and tends to leave individuals behind when it starts moving.

Root causes do need to be tackled, but individuals still need hands-on help. The man who is getting evicted tomorrow doesn't care about changes to housing policies that are unfolding 6+ months down the road - he just wants you to go to court with him now and lend a hand.

It's not ideal, but in my opinion, we need people working on both fronts.

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Women are more likely to donate their resources, more likely to volunteer their time, and more likely to work at low paying non-profits for the overall benefit of men.

I admit that women are in general more empathetic to the suffering of those who are facing severe hardship. But for this particular quote I want to say that men generally work more hours than women, at jobs that are more physically exhausting, and don't have the energy or desire to do extra volunteer work.

When I used to work 6 days a week for the majority of the year, I'd always see women casually enjoying their weekends at cafes and the like. The ratio of women to men was much higher. I assume those men were either recuperating from the exhaustion of work or doing some other non-paying work required of them (helping friends with building stuff, fixing vehicles, cutting lawns, shovelling snow etc). Every man I knew worked more than a full time workweek, while their wives and girlfriends would work less and often part-time. We can discuss the importance of work-life balance, but in that discussion we'd also have to address how women prefer partners that out earn them, and about the unspoken rule that men pay for most expenses in a relationship.

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Hybrid might be a misnomer, we were technically in the office but could opt to work from home pretty much whenever we wanted with approval. I liked having the option if there was an emergency (sick kid, contractor coming over, whatever) or if I needed to go out of town for a few days but was still able to work. I had some coworkers who worked from home 2 or 3 days a week but I never did it that regularly. My commute was about 30 minutes one way, so about an hour a day total. Most weeks I went in every day.

Before that I worked at a true hybrid job where we were remote every Monday and Tuesday and every other Wednesday (we shared office space with another company that did the opposite schedule). I thoroughly hated it. I've learned that I either need to be full-time at the office or full-time remote, the hybrid thing just throws me off and I never felt like I had any sort of rhythm or routine to my week even after working there for two years. My commute for that job was short, like 15 minutes.

I never minded going into the office and there are some things I miss about it, but I love full-time WFH and it really works for me at this stage of life since I have a young child at home (my job is flexible enough that that isn't a problem most of the time, but I do have childcare for days when it is). Plus we are planning to move later this year and I will be able to keep my job when we do so that's a huge plus.

I do find that I have to have an office space that is totally separate from the rest of my life, otherwise it starts to fuck with my mental health (during the pandemic I was WFH at my dining room table and it made me miserable). I have an office set up in the corner of my guest room and it's sectioned off with a big room divider, so at the end of the day I leave and I don't have to go back into my office or even look at it until the next morning. That separation is really important for me, mentally. I'm not one of those people who can just wake up and grab my laptop and work in bed, as tempting as it is to do that I don't allow myself because it's just not good for my mental health.

Anyway, that was probably way too long of an answer lol but there you go

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I don't take on more than I can chew. Which also makes business better for me because it adds some exclusivity. My products are expensive so I can afford to only handle a few clients a year.

I'm extremely organized. Most of the programs that I make are prebuilt from knowing the general needs of the area from past projects. I hold a data base with all of the programs I've written and as I make them I essentially save a "shell" of the program for future products. Which makes significantly less work for myself. Especially if they're companies in the same industry.

I use a digital calendar to manage my time. I also put up hard boundaries with clients. I'm not available after 5pm. And I don't entertain them if they're extremely demanding and anxious. If a customer gets too difficult I'll offer them a partial refund and to end the project, which usually backs them off.

I love doing it so it doesn't feel like a job at all. It's more like a hobby, so I don't get overwhelmed much.

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It was $1000 for 4 sessions. He works on dating profiles and other related material. It’s not about pickup art or anything - it’s more about finding the best way to market yourself and find the people you’re looking for. (Think more like market analysis and trends)

It’s been somewhat helpful on a couple parts but - tbh - it’s been pretty bad in terms of results. The guy really focuses on online profiles and other such things but has no chance with someone like me. Even after using his suggestions - I really haven’t had any success so far.

Maybe I’m just missing the one last final piece but it really does feel pointless. This is something we’ll talk about in the next couple sessions. We’ve talked for accumulative 3-4 hours at this point over a few weeks.

Unfortunately, I don’t think he’s used to getting men in my position further along. I think he works with more normal looking men and I’m just too much mixed race and not great looking to really be helped.

I literally can only get sex from women in relationships - if that makes any sense. It’s wild but that’s basically all I’ve had sex with this last year. They’re all either cheating and/or poly. It’s bonkers. I tell my friends every time I meet someone new (all from IRL) and they’re like, “did this one has a boyfriend too?” “Yep…” “did you know before or after having sex this time?” “Before.” “And you still went through with it?!!” “Beggars can’t be choosers, man.”

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"I have a boyfriend" this bitch was full on interested in my cousin yet all of sudden says this ?

So l confronted her and told her that my cousin was the best she will ever get and missed out big time, then this gay dude who acted like her spokesperson wanted to argue against that fact

Honestly as wingman to spokesperson l would gladly take him on in a boxing or ufc match up since dude was so disrespectful specifically towards my cousin

But yea l don't understand well actually l kinda do understand why she had to lie about having a boyfriend but she didn't have to reject my cousin like that

If l was him l would go for her friend next since she looked just as attractive, but damn the guy's only 20 and having his heart broken like this

I don't blame her though since she looked very shy especially when we approached, she literally hided behind her friends and didn't want them to leave her with him, bro honestly girls are so funny with how they handle anxiety

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Holy shit if a man who was interested in me had a wingman like you who would "confront" me or my. Friends and would want to "fight" with my friends over a rejection I would absolutely be more glad thst i didn't get into that relationship

That sounds like such an aggressive and uncomfortable and potentially abusive environment to be in and I'd want to be as far as possible from it.

A rejection is a rejection. This textbook red flag run away in the other direction reaction to one

Ladies a guy is also reflected in the company he keeps. If their friends and themselves are aggressive and willing to resort to physical violence (even in the "ring" lol" to being turned down, imaging what living with them would be like. Imagine being confronted if for some reason you broke up. Imagine the aggression if you got into an argument.

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Now l wasn't gonna fight him in that moment God no, but l did tell him things would be more settled in the ring rather than just arguing

That's still aggressive, toxic and a red flag.

Anyone willing to "settle things in a ring" over a rejection. Anyone wiling to even suggest that, or their friends, shows an unbelievably aggressive mindset.

Again, red flag out the wazoo. If I have to be confronted over a rejection (which doesn't involve anyone one but the two people concerned) and a guy threatened in any way shape or form, to have a "fight" over it. Toxic and aggressive environment. Toxic and aggressive friend group. Ladies... Run run run run.

Actually men included. Of someone's friend confronts you about a rejection. Male. Female. Attack helicopter. It's a red flag. Run. Run. Run. Run. Run faster if the person or their friend threatens to "settle things in a ring"

And that's not even coming on to the fact that these circles where someone's buddy is all up in your face with your personal business means that you might get that shit and get "confronted" anytime you had a disagreement. Ugggghhhhhhh

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They’re clowning him for coming for that woman completely unprovoked, he didn’t just ‘state a preference’ he critiqued someone’s body. ( I think he did it purposefully to get the traffic but I digress)

He excluded a particular body type from his preferences. There is nothing wrong with that.

If I took a picture of your body posted it on a public forum and said this, this is disgusting, or gross or whatever, I’m sure you wouldn’t see it as a ‘neutral’ statement.

I wouldn't see it as anything worth getting angry about, because people are allowed to have preferences.
I have never gone around insulting women for having preferences for men's mutable and immutable characteristics.

Being an incel with these ridiculous talking points is seen as embarrassing IRL,

My talking point is that it's overly-defensive to get angry and hostile at someone for having preferences. Is that what you consider a ridiculous talking point?

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He excluded a particular body type from his preferences. There is nothing wrong with that.

He did not, he took someone’s photo and stated something negative about it. Nothing about preferences. “I prefer to date tall men” is different than “short men are gross to look at.” Are two different things. One is a preference the other is an insult.

⁠I have never gone around insulting women for having preferences for men's mutable and immutable characteristics.

You may not have but the man you’re defending did and that’s the subject of this conversation.

My talking point is that it's overly-defensive to get angry and hostile at someone for having preferences.

Again I didn’t see anger or hostility, he got clowned, he talked shit ( I think he knew the reaction but again I digress) and got clowned instead. It’s hilarious and well deserved. You keep saying he’s stating a preference as if what he did was that it wasn’t he talked shit about a body type, stating a preference would be ‘I like thin women’ that’s a preference.

Is that what you consider a ridiculous talking point?

Nope, I clearly stated what was. Most the talking points here are made fun of IRL, it’s seen as embarrassing, this is a safe space for this shit to be spouted, even within Reddit, you can’t not know this.

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“I prefer to date tall men” is different than “short men are gross to look at.” Are two different things. One is a preference the other is an insult.

Both statements describe preferences. If you say, “short men are gross to look at”, are you not making it clear that you prefer not to date short men?

You may not have but the man you’re defending did and that’s the subject of this conversation.

He did not insult anyone for preferring women with that body type.

Again I didn’t see anger or hostility, he got clowned, he talked shit

Except there are people in there just mad about men excluding that body type from their preferences:

"Men who don't like this are gay pedophiles": https://twitter.com/river_is_nice/status/1627711066573504522?s=20

https://twitter.com/crsamra/status/1627496775782219776?s=20

https://twitter.com/angel_0f_deathx/status/1627411241223307267?s=20

https://twitter.com/ladymysticalwmn/status/1627277534449528833?s=20

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Added links and edited my previous response before you posted this. You may not have seen that.

It's not just about basic insults, there are people in there disparaging men for excluding that body type from their preferences.

Responding to the insult with an insult is justified. Responding to the preference with an insult is unjustified.

No one said that’s the insult. Not one single person said preferences are wrong.

You said, "You may not have but the man you’re defending did and that’s the subject of this conversation." You acknowledged that I haven't gone around insulting women for having preferences for men's mutable and immutable characteristics, but incorrectly claimed that the OP has.

I find it fascinating you can recognize their insults but not the OPers.

I clearly said:

I'll agree that responding to an insult with an insult is fine.

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Added links and edited my previous response before you posted this. You may not have seen that.It's not just about basic insults, there are people in there disparaging men for excluding that body type from their preferences.

I looked at your edit, doesn’t change my response. He started the disparaging, insult met with insult is ok remember?

Responding to the insult with an insult is justified. Responding to the preference with an insult is unjustified.

Agree, he started with an insult.

You said, "You may not have but the man you’re defending did and that’s the subject of this conversation." You acknowledged that I haven't gone around insulting women for having preferences for men's mutable and immutable characteristics, but incorrectly claimed that the OP has.

He started with an insult!!!! Who does that keep getting lost in your response? I’m not arguing what your perception is I’m arguing what hundreds saw, he dished it and for it thrown right back.

I'll agree that responding to an insult with an insult is fine.

Good so you clearly see he dished it, again pretty sure to get a rise out of people.

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iPhones get years more of software support.

thats a moot point. Androids get 3 years of support nowadays and in some cases even 4 or 5. An iPhone will turn into absolute garbage within 3 years. Ther eis no reason to cling for a phone that long if performance is your primary target.

The convenience of the synergy between my iPhone, AirPods and my MacBook is second to none.

Thats only if you use the apple ecosystem which is mostly an american thing. Macbooks are overpriced and dont even play nice with a lot of mainstream software and macs are even worse. Airpods are basically useless. Every single premium out there is miles better while often being cheaper. Think Sennheiser Momentum, Sony WF1000X (which btw are the benchmark for several years and many apple users prefer them even for iphones) just to name a few.

The bionic chips are objectively better than any android cpus

They really arent, they just secured a smaller process node on TSMC to force everyone else to produce a generation behind.

That being said performance on a high end phone is next to irrelevant nowadays. Unless youre hardcore gamer but then there is better choices in the android world that have things like bypass battery while plugged in and other stuff like better cooling etc.

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Ahh so you are an Apple hater in fact. Ok let’s get into it, though im sure, much like religious belief, your opinion won’t change.

iPhones don’t turn into garbage after a few years. Funny enough, androids do. People routinely use iPhones until the end of software support because of how well they run. You can use an iPhone 8 today, a phone that is 6 years old and it will still be a relatively lag free experience. Androids are absolute lag fests in as little as 2 years in. I’ve used Android from their inception up until the Samsung S8, for reference.

MacBooks are not overpriced lol. They’re only overpriced to gamers who want an overheating jet sounding computer to carry around. The new Apple silicone chips are amazing. My MacBook has 20 hour battery life. My Razer book has 3 hours. They came out the same year. I’ve never heard the fans on my MacBook turn on once. Again, the problem appears to be that YOUVE NEVER OWNED ONE

I just sold a pair of those Sony earbuds. They fit comically large in the ear. They also become painfully uncomfortable. Yes they sound better but are a compromise in every other way. The AirPods, particularly the pros, sound very good regardless. Again, you are autistically focusing on one particular thing and ignoring others

So the chips aren’t better but are a generation ahead. Okay. That means they will last longer. And they do.

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You can use an iPhone 8 today, a phone that is 6 years old and it will still be a relatively lag free experience.

Nope, i know like 3 people still using them and all of them are on 2nd or 3rd battery and while it is still lag free its drastically slower than it used to be.

So the chips aren’t better but are a generation ahead.

No the chips arent a generation ahead technically, the process node is just smaller.

My MacBook has 20 hour battery life. My Razer book has 3 hours.

There is quite a few AMD laptops with 10-20hrs battery life and the new CPUs claim to even have up to 30. You cant just use an inferior product as reference.

I just sold a pair of those Sony earbuds. They fit comically large in the ear. They also become painfully uncomfortable. Yes they sound better but are a compromise in every other way.

Thats the beauty of being able to choose a manufacturer. Your unique inner ear shape maybe makes them uncomfortabel but so far i havent heard of any complaint and i know plenty of people using Sonys.

My work colleague actually uses the Nothing Ear which he claims they are about on par with the apple ones and very comfortable. Not a big fan of in ears so cant really comment on them. Personally i use Sennheiser Studio Overheads.

Ahh so you are an Apple hater in fact.

I am not. I have used Iphones in the past and i also work on Macs sometimes but theyre clunky and not very well designed for work tasks that are tied to a windows environment.

I just pointed out that the use case is definig for what you might use and that apple products are for the average Joe who doesnt really think too much about an alternative if he can just buy another apple product that will "just work".

Yes they will work great if you are willing to shell out close to 10k worth of electronics for a complete apple environment. But you can have the same for half and you can also pick and choose whats best for your use case.

And lets not even start with having a home server and smart home elements complete with dedicated apps that need to run across several unrelated devices and sometimes even require deep folder acess.

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Nope, i know like 3 people still using them and all of them are on 2nd or 3rd battery and while it is still lag free its drastically slower than it used to be.

And what exactly is wrong with this? It's a 6 year old phone, of course it's going to be slower with current versions of apps that have become more demanding as theyve evolved. A similarly aged android is frustratingly laggy and borderline unusable.

There is quite a few AMD laptops with 10-20hrs battery life and the new CPUs claim to even have up to 30. You cant just use an inferior product as reference.

Let's talk about things that are out already, not future releases. I just checked the top 5 best battery laptops and only 1 isn't a macbook. Mind you that my macbook, which is in that top 5, has a 4k resolution at 120hz, while these intel/amd laptops are equipped with 1080p 60hz screens. Screens on laptops use about half of the battery life, so it just further highlights that the battery life on macbooks is in a different league altogether. My razerbook has a 4k screen as well, which is probably why the battery only lasts a few hours.

Thats the beauty of being able to choose a manufacturer. Your unique inner ear shape maybe makes them uncomfortabel but so far i havent heard of any complaint and i know plenty of people using Sonys.

This was a common complaint brought up in every review video I watched of these in-ears. I did quite a bit of research before I bought them. You can of course buy custom tips for them, but this is the beauty of apple products, you buy them and they work great out of the box. It's not necessary to tweak or buy extra things.

Yes they will work great if you are willing to shell out close to 10k worth of electronics for a complete apple environment. But you can have the same for half and you can also pick and choose whats best for your use case.

Why 10k? That is such an exaggeration. My iphone 14 pro was $1100, my macbook pro, which I purchased refurbished from apples website was $1750, my airpods $185. Thats about $3000. Guys will spend that much on a souped up gaming PC. The new samsung fold costs half of that. Etc. Its a myth that apple products, except for niche cases, cost more.

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You have it all wrong. Apple products are highly competitive because they work very well and provide amazing long-lasting value for the money. Bro, how can I explain that you understand. I've been autistically gaming on windows PCs since I was a kid. 2 years ago I had a $4000 gaming PC. I've built several PCs, from the days of pentium IVs all the way up to i9s. My last GPU was a 3090. I've owned high quality laptops from alienware and thinkpad. I'm telling you, no laptop has been as good as my macbook. It's on my lap right now, its not hot, the fan isnt making noise, the screen is beautiful, I dont have to anxiously check the battery life because it lasts so long, the keyboard is a joy to type on, the speakers are best in-class, the touchpad is best in-class, there's no creaks, it never crashes, there's no weird windows bugs, everything about is better.

Until you own one you won't understand. I get your perspective, because I've been there. You don't get mine, because you haven't been here.

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What does "just a laptop" imply? These are powerful machines. And, speaking again of pricing, if you compare high end non-gaming windows laptops, such as the thinkpad X1 carbon, macbook pros are equal in price. One thing to mention as well, the resale value of apple products is much higher than that of competitors.

Macbook airs retail for $800-1000, those are what you refer to as browsing machines as they aren't powerful enough for practical uses in rendering etc. This is still competitively priced for people who appreciate the extras like long battery life, build quality, speakers etc.

I use a macbook pro because I can afford it and its what I use to watch movies and such. Is it overkill? Ya. But the money isn't a concern so why would I downgrade something I use for several hours everyday?

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You’ll need to repeat that because I don’t understand your point. You said that the speakers you don’t care for because of the audiophile stuff you have. But for the person without that, then the speakers do matter. I don’t think you understand how good the speakers on these computers actually sound. They are far better than any pc laptops. I’ve owned Adam Audio A7X’s so I’m not retarded when it comes to sound.

I also gave you several reasons as to why I prefer a MacBook over pc laptops, and I’ve owned thinkpads and gaming laptops, so again, I’m not sure what you mean by irrelevant. There are very real reasons why someone would still pick a MacBook even if they don’t own an iPhone.

There are other features I haven’t mentioned either, such as traceability of devices, the security of macOS, the fact that if someone steals my MacBook but doesn’t know my password they can’t get into my data (same with iPhone) (outside of government agencies), while a stolen windows pc is easily compromised.

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The only products I can think of that aren’t readily available are some of the Chinese smartphone brands, and certain car models/brands. Otherwise there are vastly more product options and at cheaper prices in the American market than in the European one. Europeans do have those ultra custom high end gaming laptops, I can’t think of an American equivalent but I wouldn’t be surprised if one exists.

Console culture is American (as well as Japanese), it never really took root in Europe. Of course Xbox, but also PlayStation and the switch are much more popular in America due to this decades long console culture. Euros have always been PC gamers. If all your friends are pc gamers you aren’t going to buy a console.

Americans in general have more disposable money than Europeans, so it makes sense from that perspective that the European would prefer the all in one device over the device that is specific for gaming

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The internet is not real life. Just because you see it everywhere doesn't mean everyone does. My internet feed is filled with make up and wigs. Stuff can sell out in seconds. But i know that the average woman isn't wearing a full face of make up every day and a wig every day.

Besides, the only reason why incels even became into mainstream media was because they were offing people and leaving these narratives in their manifestos and extensive internet history.

Do some narratives from the manosphere overlay with overall masculine ideologies? Of course. But you ask a random person on the street about red pill and blue pill and they will tell you its from the matrix.

Either way, i think a couple of us women have confirmed, when we tell the guys we know IRL about the stuff said around these parts, they think we need to quit spending so much time on reddit.

Either way, i hope men understand that the only men who benefit from these beliefs are gay men because the only people you're impressing or relating to in these spaces are other men. So good luck

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