What's the best dating advice for women

SaBahRub · 2021-12-03T17:19:20+00:00

Stop giving people the benefit of the doubt

You’re both supposed to be on your best behavior

empresa_josefina · 2021-12-03T17:10:58+00:00

I think the biggest mistake modern women make is being passive about their funnel.

A typical woman will go about her life and choose among the men she meets organically or on dating apps. Depending on her tastes and whether she follows FDS, she will then filter these guys loosely or extremely rigorously.

Almost no attention is put into why her pool of options is as it is, and whether it reflects what she wants in a guy. The classic old example is a woman lamenting that every guy on Tinder is looking for a hook-up.

Women mostly look at offers and filter them, but they should put as much work on refining the funnel as they do on filtering the offers they get. If you like tall guys, you should be joining volleyball leagues or moving to states/countries where men are taller. Whatever it takes to make your overall funnel taller. This way, instead of hardcore vetting for a 1% chance of a man you like, you might have a 10% chance.

Most women I know dating HVM did not do so because they are amazing at vetting, they did it because they had access. In terms of high income men, it might mean working at a hospital and meeting doctors, being in high-end hotels and meeting businessmen, etc. Swiping on apps and then vetting for 6/6/6 is a losing strategy.

What I described above takes work and hard decisions (including changing jobs or location) but the sheer flow of thirst on apps and social media creates complacency.

dbz19 · 2021-12-03T15:55:49+00:00

Honestly, if you're looking for a marriage or a serious LTR, you want someone who's up front with that from the start. Not someone who's like "ehhhh maaaaaybe" about marriage and then you seethe years later when he still hasn't proposed. Be open about the marriage stuff from the start.

CatoftheBanals · 2021-12-03T16:03:10+00:00

I think this conflates two issues. One is the idea that women need to work on themselves to attract better men. The other is the idea that using sex isn't going to get you a relationship.

The first idea: yes, absolutely. Men and women should develop in themselves the traits they want to see in their partner.

The second idea: also yes. Only have sex because you want to without the expectation that it equals commitment. Because it doesn't. If you want to have sex in a relationship, then set those boundaries because the guy wanting to spend time with you and liking you is going to be the commitment, not the sleeping with him, which should be enjoyable for both of you but not some superglue binding you together. If sex is a strategy to land someone into a relationship -- and I'm not saying guys won't stick around if the sex is great because some will, for a time -- it's a highly risky one. Baseline: have sex when you feel comfortable. But it's the other stuff that indicates a guy wants a relationship.

Men in this thread seem to be ignoring Peterson's statement "If you are blaming women as a class, you are wrong." Because blaming women as a class is a VERY popular pastime here.

mistresswhat · 2021-12-03T19:49:40+00:00

This is gonna piss you all off and I'm slightly trolling but also this has actually worked very well for me:

Learn to enjoy being single and fuck around a lot.

Keep three men in your rotation at all times. You'll get enough attention between the three of them and you'll be sexually satisfied. If you find yourself wanting a relationship with one of them you'll have to weigh that option against dumping the rest of your rotation. You won't desperately pursue the one who won't commit and you won't agree to the first person who wants to lock it down just because they seem okay and you're afraid of being alone.

If you treat the whole thing like a numbers game you will eventually meet someone you like who likes you and you won't have to worry about "getting him to commit."

onelittlelir · 2021-12-03T13:54:15+00:00

It would be taking it too general. Both men and women don't have to change themselves just because they couldn't find a soulmate yet. If, on the other hand, their previous partners told them about things that they did not like, they could try to understand them.

For example if a woman's ex told her that she's far too jealous, she can take a step back and observe her behavior. Even maybe she can talk with her friends or family.

"Can't making a man commit" if it means cheating, it's the cheaters fault. But if it means men leave her before they actually bond, then she can ask why couldn't they continue to their relationship. It can be both men and women's fault, it can just be one of them or maybe they just wants different things.

So I think when we give dating advices, you can't take it the same for everyone. People aren't the same.

oldcamembert · 2021-12-03T14:27:47+00:00

The difference is that the effective dating strategy for men is pretty much the same at 18, 28, 38 and so on - and not too dependent on their personal situation (apart from clear edge cases).

For women, it is very circumstance-specific. The most effective dating strategy for a 21 year old attractive university student and a 38 year old single mother of three are so different that they might as well belong to different sexes - there's very little overlap.

Mrs_Drgree · 2021-12-03T13:53:24+00:00

Best advice for women is to be pickier. Dating for women is an elimination process. By narrowing their search, they are more likely to find men who will commit. "Improving yourself" may increase the pool of desirable men, but it also increases the pool of undesirable men exponentially. The signal to noise ratio only gets worse.

Aldabruzzo · 2021-12-03T14:11:27+00:00

What should we be telling women who can't get men to commit?

I've written this before.

If you can get things going with men but cannot keep them going, one or more of the following is going on with you:

--you're a bitch. you're unkind, unfriendly, pessimistic, caustic, or sarcastic.

--you're not available enough.

--you're not pulling your weight and you're expecting him to do all the relationship/dating "heavy lifting".

--you're picking unattractive men.

--you're picking simp chumps who don't know how to relate one on one and run a relationship with a woman.

--you're picking players and cads and men who aren't interested in anything but short term casual sexual

Therefore:

Women, if you can't get men to commit, do the following:

--stop being a bitch. Improve your personality.

--decide whether or not a man is important to you and if he is, make him a priority in your life.

--stop picking simps and chumps and unattractive men.

--stop fucking attractive men who won't give you any of what you want.

This isn't hard, ladies. It's just that you don't want to do the work.

Orange_Paisley · 2021-12-03T15:27:03+00:00

Live your best life. Do the things that make you happy, spend time with friends. Nurture your hobbies, find a career path that motivates you. Work out, not for the eyes of men but for your own health and your own well-being. A man will come along who is worthy, or he may not, but either way live your life to make yourself happy, not to please or attract men.

Paranoidexboyfriend · 2021-12-03T14:32:47+00:00

"What should we be telling women who can't get men to commit?"

70% of Americans are overweight or obese, with 42% being obese, so my first piece of advice is to put down the fork. This will be applicable 2/3 of people. You gotta maintain a minimum of physical attraction.
Next, if you want a man who will want to stay around long term, you have to be the kind of woman that men actually want to be around long term. That means besides just being physically attractive, you actually have to be kind and somewhat fun. Don't confuse being kind with being a doormat. But (which is much more common) don't confuse having firm boundaries with being a nagging shrew harpy. Learn to let the small stuff slide but hold firm on the big stuff.

Third, if you want a man who will commit, you have to find a commitment minded man. An early 20s hot jock in college who's hitting up the clubs Thursday-Saturday aren't looking for their forever partner. And they see no reason to restrict themselves to one girl as anything other than a pretext for regular sex that can be disposed of at anytime. Commitment minded men are going to fall into one of the following groups.

Older men who want to start a family or just generally settle down.
Men who don't have many options so they'll hold on to dear life to whatever they can get.
The religious.
(the rarest) men who find you genuinely fun and interesting to be around and wouldn't want to lose you. Every nonreligious woman is going to want to find this group since aside from older men, its the only group with hot guys. The problem is that you have to fit the MAN'S definition of fun, kind, and interesting. The majority of women are not.

BlKaiser · 2021-12-03T15:02:12+00:00

Imo the most sound advice it would be to be picky and try to find exactly the person she wants but at the same time she should be prepared mentally for the possibility to stay single for the rest of her life if her search doesn't bring results.

She should not settle. For her sake, and for the nice man who she is going to settle with, she must not do such a thing. After some years of marriage/living together, she'll realize the toll of being with a man she was never attracted to. It would be a complete waste of her and his time. Before she picks a man it's important, to appreciate him both as a sex partner and as a life partner, not only for one of them.

LackOf_Empathy · 2021-12-03T13:51:32+00:00

What should we be telling women who can't get men to commit?

Stop going for men that have no interest in having a future with you.

"men are right for not committing to you and only using you as a fleshlite. If you want men to commit to you then you need to work on yourself and stop blaming men/socity for your lack of success"

If a man is only with a woman for sexual access, that's the woman's fault for continuing to be in a one-sided relationship with a man like that. There are plenty of men that fit the social preferences that women have, but in reality, women don't want these types of men since they lack masculine qualities.

Need_wine · 2021-12-03T15:33:43+00:00

I’m hoping a lot of men commenting here are really young and haven’t experienced life.

The average woman is strung along and getting their time wasted by the average and below average looking man that works an average job.

Where does this fantasy come from that we’re all getting played by some super sexy man?
Getting dumped by an attractive man would be an upgrade for most women. Seriously, lurk any relationship forum on here or talk to the women in your family and you will see they’re getting played by tom the forklift driver and Chris the sales manager at Toyota.

roaming_bartender · 2021-12-03T19:38:11+00:00

Jordan goes after incel types who complain about not being picked by women. I find myself in the opposite side of things. My problem with women isnt a matter of being picked, i get dates often and one night stands are not off my table, but it absolutely is a matter of lack of quality. You'll be hard pressed to find a skinny woman in america these days, especially one that's single. When a majority of your dating pool is automatically out for one aesthetic reason alone and applying other standards just further shreds your pool to zero, how the hell is that my fault when its just a fact that fat women arent attractive?

I dont think women are wrong to say fat, uneducated men are undesirable just like i dont think I'm wrong in saying fat women are undesirable. I like JP on a lot of what he says, and I understand the point of "improve yourself instead of whine", but some things are just facts outside your control, and the quality of the market dropping like a rock is definitely one of them.

livs4drpepper · 2021-12-03T16:49:02+00:00

Just be yourself lmao jk

SylvestorTalone · 2021-12-03T16:54:49+00:00

Harsh advice is for men only dude.

Alfaq_duckhead · 2021-12-03T17:55:21+00:00

Jordan who?

Zcuzz · 2021-12-03T18:02:48+00:00

Develop a personality. Stand out. So many women are carbon copies of each other it's seriously laughable. Same style, same makeup, same dating profile, same interests, same tastes in music, etc.

Stop being basic B's and you won't be getting used like one.

goatismycopilot · 2021-12-03T16:05:40+00:00

The best advice is to ignore a vast majority of PPD men who tend to be neurotic, introverted, professionals at projecting their anger, and they all want to get into a super modern time machine and teleport back to traditional times.

ziggystarshine · 2021-12-03T15:03:54+00:00

I think that is genuinely solid advice for both men and women. Something I see a lot on here especially in dating subs is both genders seeing their lack of success in dating as a reflection on the other party, rather than themselves. Yes, it hurts to not have someone like you. It hurts to be ghosted. But the truth is that if this is happening to you frequently, there may be something wrong with your approach, or you may have certain qualities that need improvement.

I’d also say that you should match the energy you want your potential partner to have. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen people say they essentially want to give nothing to a relationship but reap the rewards.

NarniaFox · 2021-12-03T14:21:12+00:00

Take a break from dating, go on therapy and work on issues that make you choose guys who don't have any intentions to actually date you, set realistic goals/standards and/or on issues that make you a bad LTR partner.

In case of women not being able to find a man willing to commit the issue usually is in their vetting, not exactly in her value. Leveling up without mental work won't help much.

VasiliyZaitzev · 2021-12-03T17:43:39+00:00

First, JP isn't "red pilled", he's about building better betas - and that's fine.

Second, TRP tells guys to go out, lift, eat clean and improve themselves. Give yourself the best chance of success. We don't tell them to sit around and bitch about women and whine on about how "Girls are MEAN!" Women are how they are.

Third, women get to have whatever "standards" they want to have...BUT they have to face the same reality: If a woman isn't getting the men that she wants to commit to her (as oppose to a pump-n-dump) then the problems isn't that "All men SUCK!" the problem is that what she thinks she's entitled to and what she can get are are not property correlated. Statistically, 90% of men are NOT in the top 10%. Women can "know their worth" or "have standards" or whatever (just like men do) but they have to accept the consequences of their own actions and choices. If a woman is busy fucking every Outlaw Biker, Drug Dealer and Escaped Mental Patient she can find in her 20s, fine...but I am not going to have time to hear any blubbering about "Why are there no GOOD MEN LEFT?!" when she can't get the guy she wants because she's post-Wall^SPLAT! and she wasted her prime out riding a mile of cock.

For women who don't care about having a husband or kids: Great. Go do what you want.

For women who want to have a husband and kids: Start vetting guys in your early 20s. You don't have to get married in your early 20s, but you should start vetting guys so you can start squeezing out kids in your mid/late 20s - if that's what you want, I mean. Wait until your 30s and your fertility window will be more compressed and the cost of "making a mistake" (e.g. picking the wrong guy), will be higher. It is how it is.

Insidious-Sid · 2021-12-03T17:19:30+00:00

A *real* female dating strategy?

You having a degree is more important to you than it is to him. In fact, being degreed only limits you to a smaller pool of "qualified" men. Women want to compete with men in the workplace and get top jobs, but still expect men to be able to out-earn them regardless of what women on PPD will tell you. And, you having a degree doesn't compensate or negate other things men find attractive in a partner. Looks, youth and attitude (femininity) still matter.
All people in the SMP (sexual marketplace) who use leverage (resources for men and promiscuity for women) are going to lose at some point.
Women seem to think that the highest RMV/SMV man they can lure into bed is the actual man they can lock down for a LTR. Women on PPD will say "If she can get an 8 into bed she's an 8." This is false, and why so many women end up rationalizing why things didn't work out - why "she needed to end it". There was never an "it". She was never a girlfriend. She never met the parents. She is in denial. Women seem to have far more clever ways of denying the fact they make themselves into bed-meat for high value men because these men are out of their league. Men, on the other hand, just get mad (?) when they lead with Beta BUX resource deals in hopes of getting a transactional relationship. Bottom line is if women become self-aware of this behavior they can stop using "fuckboy c0pe" and find partners who actually want to invest in them relationship wise. Most will just see these men as beneath them. Shrug. The market decides what women can get. Not women. Saying "I will get whatever it is I want because I am a woman" is just pure comedy.

This whole idea that men in general are all just "too low value" is nonsense. That's like saying "I would not be seen driving any of the cars that happen to be in my price range. I'd rather take the bus."

Well, take the bus then.

Just saying "I'm a woman and I deserve XYZ and will never settle" is - truthfully - really fucking arrogant, even for a woman. I'm here to tell these women:

If you're an average woman, you ARE going to settle.

Because opting out is settling if you wanted a relationship but opted out anyways.

So, it's either realize your actual league and stay in your lane, or get sport fucked by "assholes" (men out of your league) or pretend to opt out and get cats.

Stoic_WillToPower · 2021-12-03T14:09:29+00:00

I know a few women that are attractive that just aged out of the market and were never married. Being selective is fine in theory but if a large percentage of women are trying to get the top 20% of men then those men have no reason to commit.

Many men are willing to commit and embrace modern ideals in long term monogamous relationships but those men are too often passed on.

I saw the culture shift from a single mom being almost a social pariah to it becoming a cultural norm.

It does not take a crystal ball to see that women are entering an era of chain short term relationships, single motherhood, and blended families.

One of my nieces has babies by three different men

lady_ven0m · 2021-12-03T17:24:03+00:00

The best advice for women is to be independent. You can’t make anyone commit or stay faithful regardless of how amazing you are. Better to have a safety net and at least be able to provide for yourself.

EDIT: I also wanted to add that don’t give more into the relationship/situation than you’re getting in return. I’ve learned to only give people the same energy I’m getting back, no more, no less.

ploppercan2 · 2021-12-03T16:13:50+00:00

Exist.

sarkington · 2021-12-03T16:52:56+00:00

Actions > words

BeepBeepSaysTheJeep · 2021-12-03T17:19:39+00:00

Why don't conversations about expectations happen? A lot of heartache could be eliminated by just stating what you're looking to get out of the situation before it gets to the point of bumping uglies.

Wildhouse83 · 2021-12-04T04:45:39+00:00

Be realistic.

Blackheart201992 · 2021-12-05T02:17:25+00:00

If you need dating advice as a woman, you don't deserve to succeed.

flapperfemmefatale · 2021-12-03T16:19:17+00:00

Best dating advice I could give is that you're better off single than settling.

Throwaway18077 · 2021-12-03T17:55:15+00:00

My best advice I can give women dating is simple: if he doesn’t legitimately improve your life you are better off alone.

wtknight · 2021-12-03T15:35:02+00:00

What should we be telling women who can't get men to commit?

They need to either “level up” or to lower their standards.

Laytheblameonluck · 2021-12-03T17:09:18+00:00

Before giving advice, you need to ask what are there goals?

06534956 · 2021-12-03T20:00:59+00:00

The reason women can’t get men to commit is very simple… they don’t give the man any reason to commit.

There are women in the world, and especially in the west, who will move in and have children with a man and stay with him for 10 years without a ring. Humans are creatures of habit, so it’s going to be an uphill battle to get him to propose. He would only do it if she left, and threatened child support, or common law divorce, lol.

There’s also women in the world who wouldn’t be alone in the same room with a man without being married, or even let him see her eyes or know her name.

My best advice for women is to decide what parts of herself she is willing to share with a man without a lifelong commitment. Sex, kisses, bare skin, bank accounts, whatever it is. And then stick to it.

PlayfulLawyer · 2021-12-03T15:41:11+00:00

Be the kind of woman that the kind of man that you would want would want, one of the big issues with feminist deception strategy is that a lot of the qualities they want in men is to be traditional men while they themselves are not traditional women , that ain't going to work for most of them

SwinginPastMyKnees_ · 2021-12-03T19:10:27+00:00

Women really need to take a look at the kind of man that they want. From there, women should ask themselves whether that guy would desire her the same way. Since women can only reasonably select from their available options, they need to make themselves as desirable as possible, opening up their dating pool to more desirable men in the process, and THEN vetting those for romantic compatibility. She'll have to do this earlier in her life if she intends on getting married and/or having a family.

Stop listening to your friends/family who tell you "you are beautiful just the way you are" or "the right guy will find you eventually". Doing so will have you waiting around doing nothing while time passes you by.

Don't be upset at the standards that men have with regards to long-term relationships (e.g., no single mothers, no overweight women). You cannot shame men into lowering their standards. Women who are in long-term successful relationships take into consideration what desirable men want and try to make themselves that.

Schicksalschatzz · 2021-12-03T21:51:34+00:00

If you can't get a man to commit there is something inherently wrong with you.

Either you are selfish / insufferable, a ho, fat or just a generally miserable and hubristic human being. Men are simple.

ruboyuri · 2021-12-03T17:35:43+00:00

Whining about your standards when you don’t uphold them looks stupid

You’re also not going to shame anyone into dating you. Reject them and don’t make a fuss

Pilling_it · 2021-12-03T20:48:38+00:00

Short answer : get good at choosing.

Long answer : it's tricky to get the right amount of enthusiasm, "passiveness" and being selective, and being too much of one have obviously bad consequences.

If the dudes she's interested in aren't, it all depends on the situation : is she sleeping with him? Is he even aware of her? Women are typically attracted to dudes that have options, it'd be best to assume to consider he does if she wants a ltr.

For the same reason, don't be lazy when working taking care of yourself (and yes, that includes physically), because there will always be one woman out there that won't be lazy, and you'd rather be this one.

NoHetro · 2021-12-03T22:13:45+00:00

/r/RedPillWomen/

0_kohan · 2021-12-03T22:24:37+00:00

Try to find a romantic man.

Find a man who is sexually deviant and into fetishes and kinks.

Find a man who is skeptical of the feminist narrative.

Find a man who will let you peg him in the ass.

Find a spiritual man.

Find a man with good hair.. even over height

Find a man with a college degree. Preferably stem field.

Find a man who can either cook or clean

Find a man with a nice voice

Find a man who has slept with less than 4 women

MGTOWManofMystery · 2021-12-04T00:39:14+00:00

Walk up or message up any man you are interested in. Our society has put the ball in your court, so go for it.

Lunar_Compass · 2021-12-03T14:19:34+00:00

Remember that men are naturally antagonistic to women and always prepare for the worst

TheBookOfSeil · 2021-12-03T14:59:52+00:00

Stop waiting for men to approach and chase you if men aren't approaching or chasing you. Be a big girl and take initiative. Matter of fact, just don't wait in general. If you're interested, do something about it.

Also, if a guy won't commit, chances are you're not in the same league/commitment material for him and his lifestyle, so aim lower and "get in where you fit in."

ragman75 · 2021-12-03T17:37:02+00:00

What should we be telling women who can't get men to commit?

Firstly lower your standards, im not saying fuck men who you find repulsive, but so many women have hard types and wont even look at a man outside of said type, or they have some standard that isn't relevant to finding a good relationship but they hold for ego reasons. So really evaluate what standards are "would like" and what standards are "must haves", and compromise on the "would like"s as that will enable you to be more selective on the things that actually matter.

Secondly swallow your ego and improve yourself, it blows my mind that so many young men go in their droves to self improvement spaces and yet we have a whole generation of young women who think that not only do they not need to do anything, but the most disgusting unappealing parts of themselves should be celebrated. No. Improve your conversational skills, find out what guys you like want in a woman and try to be better at that, get in shape etc.

Finally be more proactive, this aint 1950 guys are not going to slap you for approaching first, yes you will get rejected a lot, but men are way nicer about rejection so it will be ok.

Shredddz · 2021-12-03T18:22:47+00:00

Its actually quite simple.

be the most desirable you can be for LTRs and actively look for men interested in commitment by putting yourself in places where these men are or filter men by wanting family.

Most women are confused or straight up refuse to be and provide what men want and try to make them accept that, and then they wonder why men aren’t interested in commiting. steps would be: -being willing to provide men what they want for LTRs -finding out what it is -adopting it -going to places where family minded men go or filtering appropriately for family wish when dating.

Its actually incredibly easy if you are sexually attractive enough. women not getting commitment is actually their choice of who they are and how they act. Its not hard, the wish or knowledge just isnt there.

pubgmisc · 2021-12-03T18:57:00+00:00

In deregulated sexual market places like the west, each gender will be left to their own devices and sexual strategies. All women are gonna go for the top tier men, and average women think average men aren’t good enough for them, it’s just biology to get the best possible. Top tier men are gonna spin plates etc to spread seed far and wide. The thing is, the media lies to women because a whole economy relies on it, and they still believe that men are hardwired the same. The best advice is actually the fresh and fit podcast lol. Check out my link in bio

NockerJoe · 2021-12-03T14:09:15+00:00

The thing is you need the interpersonal skills to see who's actually got good intentions. As someone who's been around the block a few times love bombing a woman and dropping like a hundred bucks total on her for a month or two of dates isn't really that hard. Likewise its not super hard to juggle a few plates while doing that and if you make decent money its not a big issue, and its way easier to tolerate someones 3 month rule if you're getting it from elsewhere.

Barak Obama didn't do any of that shit for Michelle. He got her a baskin robins ice cream and they hung out on the street. The difference is he actually loved her and she was lovable and they didn't try to equate their relationship with material things like FDS uses gifts and dinners as a relationship proxy.

If your idea of relationships is based on the idea of who's boosting your ego and buying you things no shit you're getting insincere guys who won't stick around, because thats game 101 and suoer transparent to anyone who isn't the woman on question.

DiabloTheDreamer · 2021-12-03T17:39:42+00:00

Lower your standard for the unattractive average male, the best solution out there for women in 2021, you're not a queen so get back with both of your feet down to earth and accept reality

TheEndTrend · 2021-12-03T22:51:12+00:00

Feminism and the “boss bitch” attitude are a huge turnoff. Stop trying to compete with men. Be sweet and pleasant to be around. Make his life better and he will see you are a keeper.

Jonny2266 · 2021-12-03T18:37:53+00:00

Read Get The Guy by Matthew Hussey and follow that advice and let go of the FDS nonsense.

Ruben_the_Fish · 2021-12-03T17:17:19+00:00

Like u/Aldabruzzo said, women should pick better. Find a man who blows you away with his sexiness and build a relationship on that. Anything else will result in a dead bedroom and resentment, and a string of broken hearts. Do not settle, you will only hurt someone by doing this.

ogsimpology · 2021-12-04T07:46:09+00:00

Depending on their goal.

Find a husband?

invest more time into yourself as a person, rather than building some unfulfilling career
work on your fitness (you're never perfect)
have valid hobbies (watching netflix and drinking every weekend isn't a personality)
don't be a party girl
don't have casual sex (no exceptions, ever)
don't enter relationships on a whim
don't give up sex easily to men
don't dress like a hoe (let's be real, wearing a tanktop outside with your titties bouncing out isn't wifey material)
don't hang out or talk to your ex's (no exceptions)
don't have close relationships with guy friends that have expressed they like you in the past, nor guys that are single and looking in general, or are in relationships but have cheated in the past
NO ONLYFANS OR PORN OR NUDES ON INTERNET (jesus christ the standards have really fallen.........)

Plenty of rules, easy to follow if you have that as your goal.

If you want to just have boyfriend's, all you gotta do is find out what you want in a man, then go for those specific men. Either ask them out or be around them. Being beautiful and enjoyable company is most important.

Zerofication · 2021-12-03T20:59:37+00:00

I would tell them to keep their body count under 3, if this is not possible then I'm afraid there isn't much to tell.

For men, avoid women with body count higher than 2 like the plague, getting fucked by multiple men fucks up women and you can't fix her, you can only enjoy her body temporarily. Also, avoid older women. There's this Arabic saying that goes like "if it were any good, the birds wouldn't have left it," which is said for uneaten food left on ground by birds, and the same idea applies for any leftover older woman.

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HunterOk3550 · 2021-12-03T19:24:16+00:00

Try to date a shorter guy , I did and I never regretted . I'm 6'8 he's 5'11,5 tall

Pantone711 · 2021-12-03T20:42:54+00:00

My mother told me this advice, the dreaded Dr. Phil gave this advice, and it also worked for me without my even meaning to try it.

Change up the venues where you have been going. Add some new venues. Different venues seem to attract a whole different crowd. My mother put it this way: "Guys go for the new girl. If you have known a guy for 2 years and he hasn't gone for you, he won't. Be the new girl in a venue." I grew up in a repressive sect where you are supposed to marry in that sect, and what ended up happening was the incest taboo kicked in sort of. The guys said the girls "felt like a sister." Nothing wrong with that...it may be Nature. It helps to be the new girl in a venue even if that venue is exactly your sort of people, exactly your interests, and in your neighborhood.

I met the right one almost the first time I went to a new group that was starting. (Not the VERY first time...it helps to become a regular in some venue so that you can get talking to someone naturally over a little bit of time) (Dr. Phil had that advice too) Thing was...I'd been going to the tree-hugger group for 10+ years and met lots of friends and had lots of great times and memories but never quite met "the one." I got an email that a new discussion group was starting up and this isn't that big a town. You would think it attracted the same people. Wrong. It was a whole different crowd but in subtle ways it turned out to be more "my tribe." Turns out most of the people in the first tree-hugger group grew up probably upper-middle class although you can't tell it by looking. They live frugally. But it turns out the people in the new group grew up working-class. (They are still like-minded on the issues but this post isn't about those issues...but about the fact my true dating pool or tribe where I was most myself, and most comfortable, and the people "get" me, probably all came up more working-class. I felt at home and made other friends immediately in that crowd as well. Anyway, this paragraph is about: "Add some new venues to the places you go/groups you get involved with." You could be living within half a mile of your soulmate and never meet in person because your paths haven't crossed. That's what happened to me. Y'all can laugh at this if you want but I was 48 and he was 59 and we'd lived within 3/4 of a mile of each other for 10 years at least. I've figured out at least three times our paths had to have crossed in the 80's and 90's, but not to talk to. We even rode the same bus in '84 and '85. That's not to say for sure we would have been attracted to each other if we'd met to talk to back then but who knows? One time in the 90's there was a film festival that was very poorly attended. At one showing there was only one other person in the theatre, and with it being a film festival it was the only showing. The only other person there was a guy. Years later he said he'd been at that film festival at that movie. ???????????????????????????????

I have a funny story about some of the "new venues" I went to that weren't quite my crowd but I kept going to new groups that were starting and giving them a try. I will tell that story in a minute.

TL;DR: Don't get stuck in a rut as far as the venues you go to. Add some new venues and if you can, become a regular. The right person could be almost crossing your path every day but not to talk to, and a different venue could attract a subtly different crowd. That crowd might be right for you without your having guessed that it would be. Be the new person and don't get stuck in a rut with the same crowd even though your same old crowd may be wonderful for friendship. Nothing wrong with that. But mix it up and go to something new.

OK here is my embarrassing story about trying a new venue. There was yet another new group starting in town, "Progressive Professionals." I went to one of their first meetings and it was awkward but I forced myself to mix and talk to people. I was told that we had the entire bar that night. It was normally a lesbian bar. Again, I was told that we had the whole bar so I thought everyone I would go up and start talking to was with our group. I sat at the bar for a bit and talked to some people and then decided to force myself to mingle a bit more. I felt awkward but I was trying to push myself to mingle and get over shyness. I reasoned, as I often do when having to push myself to overcome shyness, that "the other people there are probably feeling awkward too and would like someone to start up a conversation with them." So I went over to another part of the bar and started up a conversation with two women and introduced myself blah blah. They look at each other and go "Let's just go." Turned out our group did NOT have the entire bar and I had interrupted and harassed (I guess) a couple. I DIDN'T KNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PearsOfWrath · 2021-12-04T00:11:37+00:00

Honestly women are practicing their ideal sexual selection already. Can't think of any advice for them. Fuck around and try to trap an alpha. If that fails go for your backup. Men are too simpy to say no and most okay looking women will never run out of options as long as they get married in their late 20s early 30s.

Pastelitomaracucho · 2021-12-04T11:20:46+00:00

Same advice I give to men: don't be a beta pickme. Attraction can't be negotiated. If he's not fully onboard, then drop it.

Apprehensive_Boat_70 · 2021-12-04T20:06:10+00:00

If you expect a man to be romantically attracted to you just because "love is magic" then keep dreaming.

You have to be a woman of substance, only a mediocre man will love you just because you re a woman, but thats how a mediocre woman thinks, and what i mean Is that there are maaaany kinds of woman today, many of them, extremely undesirable, and if you are one of them then I have bad news for you.

Athen_of_Venus · 2021-12-05T05:21:22+00:00

Set yourself as a person, not a prize.

Athen_of_Venus · 2021-12-05T17:46:20+00:00

You're never going to meet your criteria 100%.

BlackPorcelainDoll · 2021-12-06T00:52:16+00:00

Most people aren't even wrong, they just aren't right about anything. If you are going to talk out of your ass, it's better to get paid for it. It is easy to make bullshit make sense or repeat cookie-cutter common sense lines. All the matters is the power of the person behind the words. The day I start giving advice is the day when I hit the Best Seller list.

When you start diving into it you soon find out no one knows what they are talking about.

Cheap-Pound7001 · 2021-12-03T22:38:58+00:00

I agree...to add, women, don't be a bitch.

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If you're an average woman, you ARE going to settle.