Q4Men: If you’re not Chad, why should you be treated the same way as Chad?

Goyeyo565 · 2023-08-13T16:41:13+00:00

It's the implication that if a women doesn't treat you like a Chad then she's clearly not that into you. If she's giving special treatment to other men for free while making it hard for you to get that same treatment then she sees those men as more deserving than you, meaning she doesn't truly love you the same way she loves them.

So if your woman doesn't truly love you, then why should you be expected to love her back and make her your queen? At that point why even have a relationship at all?

philseven12 · 2023-08-13T13:25:53+00:00

I don't need to be treated like a god amongst mere mortals. Just stop making up boundaries and hoops for to jump through because you're not able to get the type of man whom you really want.

In my experience, the extremely beautiful women I came across kept it really simple with a yes or no. Average and below women made it their job to be a terror in the relationship and in the household because they don't have enough game to get the best of the best.

It's like asking if a woman doesn't look like coi leray, why should men be nice to her. That's how cutthroat a lot of women are when they interact with tall/handsome men versus "regular" men. Not being Chad doesn't give you the right to try n flex on me. Especially if you not even a baddie

Vandil_the_Rogue · 2023-08-13T16:10:44+00:00

God, it's posts like this that make me happy I'm autistic and I don't obsess over these things. It's got to be draining for all y'all.

Hoopy223 · 2023-08-13T16:14:25+00:00

Guys get bent out of shape over this topic because we all know a man who is a complete piece of human garbage yet women will crawl over broken glass to suck his dick. No matter how much of a screwup he is or what he does they’ll forgive him and take him back. Its like his veins are pumping catnip.

Meanwhile Mr Average is sitting there with his tinder app, curated profile, “professional pictures” and zero matches going AAARRRGGHH!!!!.

OursIsTheRepost · 2023-08-13T18:35:03+00:00

OP you’re correct, which is why the only legit men’s advice to other men is to get more physically fit, become more interesting and/or make more money

M3taBuster · 2023-08-13T16:29:23+00:00

I'm not asking for a "Stacy" to treat me like a "Chad". I'm asking to be treated well by my female counterpart/"looksmatch".

I'm not fat, with a 5-7/10 face. Therefore, my "looksmatch" is a non-fat woman with a 5-7/10 face. I want a LTR with one of these women, and to be treated with love, desire, and respect in that relationship. That's all I ask.

PMmeareasontolive · 2023-08-13T16:46:30+00:00

The objections are that there's something about modern dating where only Chad really breaks through some sort of wall of defenses, which is women's selection process. On OLD (I know, no one should be on OLD, but they are) women sometimes say there are so many dudes that they filter by looks first, then confidence, humor, etc. So they end up having to create a website called "Are We Dating the Same Guy?".

The objection is that it's so hard to get your foot in the door in any way these days if you aren't exceptionally good looking or in a manic state. Sorta like with the economy where they say the 1% keep getting richer, the possibilities in the dating world also seem to have become more out of balance than ever.

MarBitt · 2023-08-13T16:02:47+00:00

Let's say you start dating a man, it looks like a possible serious relationship, love begins to form between you and you think that this could lead to marriage one day, you could start a family together.

But as you write, you are not a 19 year old Instagram model, and you don't expect to be treated like one.

So how do you expect this man to treat you? And how, in what ways and how much better should he treat the 19-year-old Instagram model, so that it expresses the difference in behavior you expect and at the same time it was okay and you were still satisfied with it? Give specific examples.

Added as an edit: if a woman chooses me, I expect it's because she sees me as someone special to her. That is, she is attracted to me, she sees qualities in me that she does not see in other men. If I'm just a second, third, fourth option for her compared to the guys she also wants but can't have, then I'm not interested in that, in that kind of relationship. Once we're in a relationship, I'm either the one and the best for her, or it will be better to break up.

Also, either she has standards and is therefore someone to be taken seriously or not. A guy who throws away all his morals, everything he claims to live by, once he see a 19-year-old Instagram model is just laughable. This is not a man who has any standards, at best, an immature boy, but more probably just a big hypocrite.

Nellylocheadbean · 2023-08-13T17:35:37+00:00

Men act like they don’t do the same thing. They constantly tell women that they’ll treat a woman differently if she’s for recreational use compared to being suitable for a relationship, but that’s totally fine to them.

BirdMedication · 2023-08-13T17:54:07+00:00

If you're asking why as in the logical reason, then obviously people treat attractive people better because they're visually pleasant to be around.

If you're asking philosophically "Do attractive people deserve to be treated better just because the person finds them attractive" then obviously not.

I’m not a 19 year old Instagram model

I'm curious why you specified the age in setting up the female version of Chad

Cool_Ranch_2511 · 2023-08-13T16:37:28+00:00

Guys don't want to be a long term partner to someone who treats them worse. I'm not LTRing any chick that doesn't treat me BETTER than Chad.

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KingWhoCared86 · 2023-08-13T17:25:51+00:00

I don’t get upset who women date or sleep with. Not my business or concern. The only thing I generally don’t like are the occasions I’m dragged into other peoples relationships issues. Outside of that, dating in my opinion is the only time you ought to be the most selfish. You’re ideally looking for someone to get hot and sweaty with and exchange a bunch of gross liquid, so might as well be with someone who looks good.

YOUNG_ACE242 · 2023-08-13T18:08:07+00:00

OP woke up like:

Lift_and_Lurk · 2023-08-13T15:57:43+00:00

Because he’s getting the women and sex that i want! Duh!

I mean that’s really what it comes down to isn’t it

Everyone wants the “rock star life”. But only a few get it. Most of us make peace with it. Some don’t

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2023-08-13T15:56:21+00:00

I don't disagree, to get high value treatment from women, she must see you as high value. I think most women believe this as well but what I don't understand is how women can understand this and then complain about power dynamics in relationships. Women's hypergamy create the same power dynamics they complain about men exploiting.

This is true for women as well, you can't expect top tier treatment if you are not a top tier women. So the women complaining about the guys they are dating putting in low effort are actually exposing what their partners think about their value in regards to dating and relationships.

tendrils87 · 2023-08-13T16:28:52+00:00

They complain because they fall into the trap. Don’t want to be used? Don’t go on expensive dates. Don’t continue to date women that aren’t fucking you. Keep improving yourself until women DO want to fuck you on the first date. It’s not rocket science.

WilliamWyattD · 2023-08-13T16:28:34+00:00

You shouldn't expect to be treated like Chad or Stacy.

However, since under our current social architecture we seem to need a certain hetero pairing rate to create families and generally function, it makes sense for the rules of society to limit how much Chad or Stacy get to win.

abaxeron · 2023-08-13T17:02:15+00:00

Q4Men: If you’re not Chad, why should you be treated the same way as Chad?

I shouldn't. However, a woman who gobbled ten gallons of Chad's cum should not expect me to treat her the same as a virgin.

El-Carretero · 2023-08-13T17:43:14+00:00

Well that's if women want commitment, protecting, and provision from us. If not just stay with Chad.

c0pkill3r · 2023-08-13T18:42:18+00:00

I'm so much of a Chad there needs to be a new word invented for what I am. Because Chad doesn't convey how much I surpass what Chad is.

Proudvow · 2023-08-13T19:01:00+00:00

“We’re not mad at women for making us ask/pay/wait/date them instead of having casual sex. We’re mad that you expect one guy to do those things but another guy doesn’t have to. You guys are picky and have all these standards for us and not him. We have to behave and hide our thoughts, and he can be rude and selfish. It’s not FAIR!!”

An easy way around that issue is to just never get involved with the Chad to begin with. The plain guy can't be jealous of previous partners she didn't have.

This is what was done in previous eras, women saved themselves for the men who'd actually commit. Obviously there were more attractive men, but they weren't going to start a family with her, so they were dismissed.

Simple fact is nobody wants to spend a lifetime with a spouse who treats them like a lesser-than. If I'm going to marry someone I absolutely demand the best intimate treatment they've ever provided. If that's not plausible, then we can shelve the whole marriage idea.

RidingRedHare · 2023-08-13T19:47:56+00:00

Well, if that's how you are, then I would not be interested in having you anywhere in my life. And no, good looks won't change that.

And, frankly, with an attitude like this

he (chad) can be rude and selfish

you're setting up yourself for some painful experiences.

AbsolutelyNobody0 · 2023-08-13T22:32:04+00:00

I'm fine with it. Of all the problems with modern dating and relationships, differing treatment based on attractiveness isn't really one of them.

When it comes to women who sleep with certain guys quickly, I don't rule them out because they might have different standards for me or some other guys; I rule them out because they're whores. That they would engage in 'casual' sex (an oxy moron) at all is one of the real problem ailing dating and relationships

CountMandrake · 2023-08-13T22:32:05+00:00

You mean, being treated good, with respect, and expecting love and admiration for your partner?

The question is...

If women are not going to treat their man like her best option...

Why should men respect women?

YveisGrey · 2023-08-14T00:40:21+00:00

I always found that reasoning questionable as well. It’s like me asking why I don’t make millions of dollars and have legions of fans like Beyonce does. I mean people pay to see her sing why aren’t they paying the same to hear my voice???

___ZoSo___ · 2023-08-14T01:54:12+00:00

Everyone gets treated differently depending on how good looking they are. It's just the way it is. Women are treated differently by guys depending on how they look, too. I've seen women being ignored basically because the women around them are "hotter". They're not even ugly or anything. It happens to everyone.

Nate_Reborn · 2023-08-13T17:16:59+00:00

I agree with this. Many dudes would drag an average woman along, yet bust it wide open for a Stacy in a heartbeat.

To pretend otherwise is delusional.

The simple fact is, as always, most people want the best they can get.

AnonJetlag · 2023-08-13T16:07:56+00:00

Why does a woman require the man to be chad to treat him well? You are admitting that the woman is not a decent human being

Mr_Chad_Thunderpenis · 2023-08-13T15:59:12+00:00

Not really they shouldn't. Most men aren't Chads and they won't get the Chad treatment. Just like most women aren't 20 year old hotties and won't get the same treatment as a 20 year old hottie.

babazuki · 2023-08-13T16:52:32+00:00

You're not a 19 year old instagram model. You should look for a partner that sees you as a 19 year old instagram model. Or at least he doesn't look with more desire at other women than he does at you.

I really doubt anyone explained this concept the way you described. It's your interpretation and it's off.

It's simply that you should be number 1 in your partner's eyes. You should be the one that gets the best treatment. If the rules get bent for anyone, it should be for you. If it's not you, then you should keep looking.

If your fiance proposed to you with a plastic ring, but you know he was previously engaged and he gave his ex a huge diamond, you should say no. Anyone with self respect wouldn't accept that. The relationship is over right there.

If you're dating a woman and she's still deciding if she wants to be more serious, but you find out that she used to hook up with random dudes at frat parties, why tf would you continue taking her dates? Obviously, she's capable of doing things like that with the right guy and you're not the guy. The normal self-respecting thing to do is to leave.

You're not going to sit there and try to negotiate so you get casual sex like the other guys. You're just gonna leave. That's what I think you misinterpreted.

Fiestygirl000 · 2023-08-13T19:24:51+00:00

Alot of average men want the benefits of a Chad without being on.

Dapper_Level2915 · 2023-08-13T16:28:11+00:00

he’s funny, he’s interesting, he can play the guitar.

Stop with that. my friend (chad) and I play guitar, are very good, and no women have ever given a single fuck! Even when chad plays, they just get annoyed, because the focus is not on THEM. women generally don't give af about music ability unless its making you millions of dollars or they're musicians themselves

funny/interesting describes a lot of people I know (myself including, as I've been told) and those factors are also irrelevant in dating.

interesting is highly subjective. ive never met an "interesting" person, as people just do what they can with what they have. How interesting is the average worker/consumer TBH? (not very) I don't think I'm particularly interesting, yet other people (women who said I'm handsome) have found me interesting. i wonder why?

and not only is funny is subjective, but women will find a handsome man funny for existing. I remember one of my friends, shy, just nervously giggling, giving one word replies, and yet he was "hilarious"

gopher_glitz · 2023-08-13T17:49:29+00:00

Women be like, "I'm not that type of girl" yes, yes you are, just stop with the bullshit. Just say you need more resources to trade for your ass. Just say you trade you ass for resources.

RevolutionaryFig929 · 2023-08-13T17:48:15+00:00

After many experiences including myself being stupid, i think you should just "next" any woman that doesn't give you the feeling she lusts for you, you can give it 2-3 tries but than thats it.

Shoddy-Donut-9339 · 2023-08-13T19:11:32+00:00

A lot of hot women get annoyed by excess male attention. Do Chads ever get annoyed by excess female attention?

If your not Chad I see no reason why you should be treated like Chad.

In a perfect communism where money and even attraction is equal maybe all men should be treated like Chad.

Being less wanted by women hurts but I never blamed women and even though I was jealous of Chad I was not even close to being an Incel. I would have liked to have been more attractive to women but you could do worse with women than being me.

Being only 5’ 5” I guess I was lucky with women for a guy my height.

bruhminer · 2023-08-13T19:11:57+00:00

The point is if you are doing all that "ask/pay/wait/date" etc you are still not going to get shit.

I’m not a 19 year old Instagram model, and I don’t expect to be treated like one.

I bet that if we were to somehow see how you behaved and which men you dated you 100% behaved as though you expected to be treated like one.

Dark_Knight2000 · 2023-08-13T19:32:05+00:00

The issue is that no one wants to be another person’s safety school or backup option. When men are young they see women prioritize looks and fun over anything else. But when they are 30 and financially stable they get more attention despite their physical looks getting worse, and and their interests, hobbies, and personality not having any dramatic change.

The natural consequence of treating men like objects is that the men will treat you like objects back.

It makes no sense that men want virgins after sleeping with tons of women. You and your cohort erased the virgins you want. Female virgins and sexually conservative women take the sexually conservative men.

It makes no sense that women want a different guy to date when young and a different guy to settle down with. They’re gone because they’re all taken when they get older or they date younger women. You and your cohort erased the stable men you want.

It’s perfectly fine for women to want hot, fun guys. Just own it with some integrity and make sure that you stick to it, and never ever change your dating preferences out of convenience.

funnystor · 2023-08-13T20:12:07+00:00

I’m not a 19 year old Instagram model, and I don’t expect to be treated like one.

How would you feel if your boyfriend let slip that he used to date a hot Instagram model and he bought her way more expensive things, took her to fancier restaurants etc than he does you, just because she was hotter?

Wouldn't that make you feel second-choiced?

andobail · 2023-08-13T20:29:24+00:00

There are no coulds, shoulds, woulds, blah blah blah, in dating. The answer is, if you don't treat me the best you've ever treated a man (and unless you consider sex to be a negative and punishing bad thing, then it's under the category of treating good), then you're not attracted to me in any way that I could ever let lead to a relationship.

MyUpSeemsDown · 2023-08-13T21:47:54+00:00

It's really the same for beautiful women, there exist beautiful women who are treated different because they're beautiful, they're sought after by many guys, hell guys on internet just throw money at them and they probably live one of the easiest life ever. And I'm sure many average girls at some point may feel that it's unfair.

toxic_elixr69 · 2023-08-13T23:26:36+00:00

Because women say they like personality

MotleyCrew1989 · 2023-08-13T23:28:46+00:00

Wellllllll, fellas, it’s because he’s Chad. He’s hot, he’s rich, he’s funny, he’s interesting, he can play the guitar. Why should you get what he does?

I really want to know, seriously. I’m not a 19 year old Instagram model, and I don’t expect to be treated like one.

We shouldnt, but a lot of women expect "im special treatment" when they are just another average plain jane. Add to that than a lot of women still act as teenagers, posting at least 2 or 3 selfies showcasing their body, either to harness attention or plain thirstraps. It is something you shouldnt expect from someone than is closer to menopause than their teenage years.

WillyDonDilly69 · 2023-08-14T05:33:27+00:00

Do you see how psychopathic you are here. You out yourself sucha redflag garbage. You are literally willing to make fun of a man just because he is avreage. Do you consider a normal/good person. If you ever heard a guy saying "i am dating ugly girls because i get to treat them like garbage" you would have a meltdown

HmanTheChicken · 2023-08-14T06:18:11+00:00

Solution: if she’s not a Virgin don’t marry her

Nobody has to complain anymore

jacare_o · 2023-08-14T07:32:53+00:00

We do not expect to be treated like Chad.

We do, however, want our time, energy and attention to be invested on something that pays back.

How much return we get from our investment matters. That is why we discuss among eachother, which women to invest time energy and attention on, or whether to invest in any women at all.

obviousredflag · 2023-08-14T08:31:37+00:00

I’m not a 19 year old Instagram model, and I don’t expect to be treated like one.

So lets say your partner had a 19 yo Instagram model as an ex-partner and brought her flowers every week, showed her immense physical desire, and generally had a highly increased level of benevolent partner retention activities that made her feel special, valued, desired and amazing all over.

How would you feel about it, when you notice that he is not desiring you physically as much as other women/his ex? How would you feel about getting less mate retention actions from him, because he thinks you are way less likely to be desired by other men and especially by other men who are way better than him? Would you not feel: i am mad that he does that for other women but not for me, because i am less pretty, young, desired? Would you not think: if he loves me, she should apply the same intensity of behavior to me as to other women he loved? Would you not feel less loved?

4SSh01e · 2023-08-14T10:01:51+00:00

Fair enough, and I have no argument to make with you, however, I would really like men to take this discourse seriously and re-evaluate their life goals and plans. Do you really want to marry and start a family with such women? If you do then in my opinion you are compromising heavily on self respect.

If I am not Chad and cannot command the kind of respect, love, and devotion that a Chad commands then I don't want whatever scrapes you have to throw my way.

It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees.

Birth control gave women the privilege to fuck chads with impunity. However, man's path to salvation is much harder, it requires a lot of internal work to let go of infeasible dreams and aspirations and get their desires under functional control. Then they won't need to settle for these scrapes for they can live a reasonably good life on their own. Then there will still be plenty of weak men who will fold for this kind of sub-par relationships because they cannot stand their own company long term.

Hubris1998 · 2023-08-14T12:33:13+00:00

If she claims to love you, then she's to treat you as if you were, indeed, Chad.

According-Dinner-406 · 2023-08-14T13:06:39+00:00

I treat unattractive women like garbage tbh. I pushed one ugly chick's box of whatever over after she went to the bathroom at McDonald's. I just had a sudden urge to make her life a little more miserable. I also tease tall women because they're tall and men don't want that shit. So it works both ways.

jcolls69 · 2023-08-14T14:21:12+00:00

Because men have been raised and conditioned to treat all women with a certain level of respect. It’s this respect not being reciprocated which leads to so many men that fail at dating to resent women. If every rejection was polite and cordial the amount of men getting upset by the “chad” issue would be significantly less. However, the only men who women treat with respect are the ones they are the most physically attracted to. Women (especially in the online dating scene) objectify “chads” and tend treat all other men like some second class citizens who should worship the ground they walk on.

Before anyone makes assumptions about what I mean, no I do not and am not equating sex with respect. Nor do I think anyone is entitled to sex. Women have been raised and conditioned to fear all men. This has lead to them seeing most men as disgusting. So of course, the men who they don’t find disgusting get treated much differently.

It doesn’t matter if your name is chad, chuck, or chalupa. You deserve to be treated with respect. Anyone who disrespects you deserves nothing from you. Fellas, please come to your senses and realize these hoes are not worth your time, energy, or thoughts.

I recognize the “work on yourself” advice is overused and much easier said than done. But it truly is the best advice for self conscious or anxious men. If you can focus on the things you can control I guarantee you will meet a woman worth your time eventually.

tiddermacss · 2023-08-14T14:41:35+00:00

if I told a woman that I used to have 10 million dollars and spent it all on better looking women.. and now that I cant treat her the same way but expect to commit to me all the same.. how many women will still commit to me? the answer is 0..

so don’t be hypocritical when men expect something.. don’t like it? go get commitment from chads.

Filmguy000 · 2023-08-14T18:40:18+00:00

So here is the thing. I myself am not a Chad. Never have been, and I never will be. And I have dated many women and have been in multiple relationships. I am hyper aware of how women operate and select men for sex and relationships. And I have almost three decades of being around women at work, public and social groups to observe women's patterns.

Here's the thing. Women are now exposed. In the past when men pointed this out, women would deny it for dear life. And now women are like, "well you got us...and you know what, we're proud of it!". And your post is one of many as of late where women will go, "Well I have a vagina! Chads are hot and I fuck 'em for fun and he doesn't have to do anything because he's hot! AND WHAT IS WRONG WITH THAT?? If I screen you, sorry but I won't fuck you quickly because you're not Chad but I need to make sure you will be genuine.." It is very normal thinking from a woman and it also strongly implies dual mating strategy. And men are finally learning this for the first time in history.

I have seen men (including myself) get into relationships with women who previously had casual monkey sex with Chads, thugs, douchebags, etc. It is never worth it. Not only do normal guys like us get nowhere near the enthusiasm sexually, but we are somehow expected to step up and treat them like queens, entertain them, be competent, preserve our value as much as we can, etc. And it's not just the sex either. Women generally show far more respect and reward Chad for simply being (even if he is an otherwise bad person).

So if your not a Chad and you enter a relationship with a woman with OP's aloof attitude, it's like buying a high priced used car that will always break down and be a constant money pit. And the car itself was previously owned by a rich guy that used it as an annual tax right off and essentially got it for free (when it was brand new, and at its peak performance).

OP, it's your life and you are free to do what you want. But this world is all based on some form of economics. And if you really are living your life with that attitude, you will find clueless and thirsty men who will play dancing monkey for you, sure. But smart men with self respect will see you for what you are and determine that the return on investment is simply not worth it. In the end, both men and women lose, but at least the non-Chad can live his life with dignity and not be tied to a non-attracted woman who is a liability. And maybe he can find a woman who can actually keep her legs closed for men who would wouldn't make quality partners.

RonMexico432 · 2023-08-13T18:58:46+00:00

It's all copium. "Chad" isn't just allowed to get away with everything and never has to pay. Sure, things are easier. But, they're not some infallible deity. They still pay for dates. They still work. They're just not desperate assh0les.

duenebula499 · 2023-08-13T16:36:11+00:00

Beyond that chad isn’t, well real, I assume guys just get upset that they’re lonely and need a way to rationalize that without taking responsibility for their inadequacies

kkkan2020 · 2023-08-13T16:27:41+00:00

here's something everyone should keep in mind...

"know your role and shut your mouth "

this world would be a more pleasant place.

Worldly_Piano9526 · 2023-08-13T17:50:31+00:00

It's not that it's not fair, it's that it's using straight up delusion to justify being an inconsiderate, self centered, ass... If you are a sub-3 woman; you better see a 5/10 dude as Chad, or you're going to rightfully die alone, and are just wasting everyone else's time by taking up space in the dating market. It's both foolish and selfish in equal measure. Either date within your league; or just stay tf home and stop wasting everyone else's time, and if you insist on being a time-wasting dick; don't be surprised if you get dicked-over and played by Chad, who is just as sick as, if not sicker of, the princess syndrome bullshit than everyone else...

Men are tired of being disrespected, yall's shit stinks just like everyone else's, and most of yall don't even cook or clean anymore, forget about being a virgin, but then they still expect a traditional man, again it's delusional, entitled, and self-centered... Once you see through the game; you refuse to be treated like a second class citizen anymore... I may not outrank EVERY woman, but a broke, BBW, single mother doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell with me, and why should she? Yet, they still want to act like I need to win THEM over? Like what? You've got 3 kids and jelly rolls woman... You better be literally worshipping any man who is even remotely considering taking that on...

Thankfully men are reversing the game on women and giving them a taste of their own medicine. I've gotten to a point where if a woman doesn't treat me like Chad; I don't even want her in my presence... I think those motivational Facebook fempowerment memes would put it; "If I'm not your first choice, I'm not a choice at all" or "If you hesitate between me and another person, don't choose me."

odd_cloud · 2023-08-13T17:13:02+00:00

Well, your post may be paraphrased as “There are two sorts of guys. One of them gets preferential treatment. Why don’t you like that you are in the second category?”.

The second-class men don’t like it because there is this division at all. Women don’t experience such unequal treatment, so you cannot relate to this.

Imagine that a substantial share of women would be completely invisible to men. Only the top model looking women would be considered an option for men. You women would complain too.

MxMaster9907 · 2023-08-13T16:43:02+00:00

beggars can't be choosers

yamom998899 · 2023-08-13T17:25:03+00:00

Average guys for the most part don’t even want to be treated like a chad, they just want casual sex here and there. That has become exceedingly more and more difficult nowadays

Sure-Vermicelli4369 · 2023-08-13T18:11:05+00:00

I guess you forgot that for a millennia men have provided for women.

macone235 · 2023-08-13T17:32:06+00:00

Wellllllll, fellas, it’s because he’s Chad. He’s hot, he’s rich, he’s funny, he’s interesting, he can play the guitar. Why should you get what he does?

I really want to know, seriously. I’m not a 19 year old Instagram model, and I don’t expect to be treated like one.

So by that logic then, you should not expect men to provide for you, or to stay loyal to you like an IG model, because you're not worth it. Likewise, since most men are not Chad, they should not be doing Chad things like paying for you on the first date. If women applied their own logic to themselves to make relationships balanced and fair, then I don't think we'd have nearly as many men complaining.

Heard this one many times: “We’re not mad at women for making us ask/pay/wait/date them instead of having casual sex. We’re mad that you expect one guy to do those things but another guy doesn’t have to. You guys are picky and have all these standards for us and not him. We have to behave and hide our thoughts, and he can be rude and selfish. It’s not FAIR!!”

The bigger issue that you're missing in your nonsensical rant is that women like to virtue-signal to pretend like they'd never go for Chad, and will then inevitably blame the entirety of men for the things he does wrong.

The way women treat men is eerily similar to the way the rich treats people, because women have come to dominate the top of the social hierarchy and they act like it. Men have every right to expose that behavior for what it is. You guys are not queens. You're an average girl with an inflated sense of self worth, and when that bubble pops, the men you treat like peasants aren't going to be there to save you anymore.

thedarkracer · 2023-08-13T16:28:34+00:00

We want to but we understand that we can't be. Ofc looks matter, they matter a lot. Some of us are born with all the chad things you mentioned and the rest of us have to earn it. It's like demotivating for the rest of us. See some of us get it but the others don't. More weird is that we don't like have a yes or no scale like you. We have a 1-10 type of scale (I don't give a shit about looks personally). So every girl is desirable to us at some extent. Guys believe even women should do that and women do like only yes or no. No middle zone and it does frustrate us.

tonyghow · 2023-08-13T17:14:39+00:00

I would say that I’m a 5.5 to 6 when dressed well. I expect the 3s and 4s that I match with on the apps to treat me like a Chad. But they don’t. They’re just as entitled as the 5+ that “accidentally swiped” on me.

And before you say women are attracted mentally first, remember that your post is all about looks.

not-a-dude-at-all · 2023-08-13T15:52:04+00:00

Easy: chads don't exist. Almost any man can learn behavior that makes him successful. But most men aren't interested in fucking around, so they use those skills just to find one right woman.

lololololROFL · 2023-08-13T20:40:09+00:00

Idk. Most people I know who are in relationships aren't "chads", they're just average looking. I'd just like to have a similair experiance to what they have.

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Title	Q4Men: If you’re not Chad, why should you be treated the same way as Chad?
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Date	August 13, 2023 1:15 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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