What is happening to men? I am concerned

Good_Result2787 · 2024-03-21T19:16:06+00:00

This was a lot but as a dude I'll just address one point: the issue of a space/group. If all of the things you listed are a concern to you, one of the best things to do is to create much tighter camaraderie among yourself and your male peers and friends. Social groups the rival the perceived social inclusivity that groups of women have.

I don't mean online echo chambers where the primary contention is "the people who are mean to me suck." I mean actual, close relationships with close friends or groups of dudes. I have this, and it is always a little concerning to me how many times here some of the guys straight-up say they have no friends. No guy acquaintances. Obviously that isn't true of all the posters here, but it's rough every time I read it.

I'm not saying making such connections is easy or quick; if it was, the group wouldn't be tight enough to offer the support you need. But it is one small part of the problem. Greater dude cohesiveness can address one part of this issue.

Some of the rest of it will be more difficult because some of the things you talk about are harder to influence, as is often the case with human dynamics.

Electric_Death_1349 · 2024-03-21T19:35:12+00:00

The Japanese are ahead of the curve on this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbivore_men

Milo Yiannopoulos was writing about this a decade ago a decade ago; as society becomes more hostile towards men, particularly within the sphere of sex/dating, they’ll drop out in increasing numbers

Stop_Maximum · 2024-03-21T19:41:09+00:00

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EulenWatcher · 2024-03-21T19:37:55+00:00

I think you've answered your own question - there's no movement for men although men are experiencing some real systematic issues. Feminism was started by women for women, LGBTQ+ movement was started by queer people for queer people etc. Men have to do the same. It isn't realistic to expect that other people will do it for them, we can join them and help them along the way, but we can't be the ones who start the movement.

On another side, there are some universal issues that people experience - financial problems, health issues, isolation etc. The young generations suffer greatly from early and uncontrollable exposure to social medias. There are way too many options to entertain yourself without actually leaving your house and meeting other people, so it's no wonder that people become more and more isolated. You can view social medias, games and serials as an easy access to junk food or food with lots of sweet in it - as long as it's easy available lots of people will fall for it even in expense of their overall well-being.

DarayRaven · 2024-03-21T19:44:36+00:00

What do you think will happen?

Nothing, because most guys as you said, create their own gynocentric society

Truth is, men don't care about their own problems because they are too invested in women's problems

Tozester · 2024-03-21T22:09:19+00:00

Women outperform men in measurable numbers and in happiness, because their social (and romantical) needs are more often met. This allows them to focus on other goals. Kinda of topic but still

This-Adhesiveness-52 · 2024-03-23T00:18:15+00:00

It's only a symptom off liberal society.

Western/secular society's women are free and focus on making money to live a luxurious lifestyle. Not all want to be wives or have children. This 'experiment' has failed. Liberal society's are on life support and are totally dependent on mass migration from traditional society's to not have a fast decline in population.

In traditional/religious society's women are married off and don't have much freedom. It has been successful for ages because it has a high birth rate that keeps it going.

Many men in secular society's just want a loving wife and family but it's hard to find women that want to be a wife. Women in the west are very bossy, individualistic and materialistic. It's more about the fancy lifestyle then being wives/mothers. It's a struggle for the men to keep these women happy enough to stay.

shonenhikada · 2024-03-22T03:53:55+00:00

--Men don't give a shit about other men. Hence why male centered issues like domestic abuse get very little funding from men.

--Men see other men as competition for getting pussy and want as much pussy for themselves

--Men do everything to try and get pussy which includes going out of their way to help women succeed in school, work and in life.

---Men side with women very often on gender issues; More so than women do for men. And its often done in a vain attempt to try and get positive female attention online, or for the more delusional, sex and relationship.

---Any male centered group that pops up is immediately mocked by society as being misogynisitc

--Any male motivational speaker that doesn't simp for women or encourage men to self sacrifice for women is considered a threat. Hell this doesn't even need to be a man, as Pearl has shown that u can be female and still get attacked for telling men to stop being suckers.

---Men's own mothers betray them early by training them to self sacrifice for women and try to mold them into being simps.

Overall, men will never be a cohesive group. It's too innate in men to fight amongst each other to prove which guy is the most alpha in order to get pussy. Too many simps that will backstab their fellow brothers for pussy. Too many forces in society that don't want any male positive groups to rise and want men to continue to be divided. Too many men are brainwash early by their moms into thinkin self sacrificing for women is the only way to be masculine.

treadmarks · 2024-03-21T21:31:29+00:00

It's because 80% of consumer purchasing decisions are made by women. Corporations, the things that control the media and our culture, have decided it's in their best interest to take the side of women whenever possible.

On top of that, feminism benefits corpas by lowering the cost of labor. Of course they are going to take the pro-female and anti-male viewpoint when forced to.

Clementinequeen95 · 2024-03-21T20:02:30+00:00

Men spent decades bullying other men for coming across “gay” when they were emotional to friends. Most men I’ve met put zero effort into making friends, developing hobbies, or taking time to do some self growth. Men put way too much pressure on themselves and other men to find a woman. They seem to think a gf will cure all their problems. If men want to create a healthy space then they need to actually try. I see so many men complain about how difficult they have it and simultaneously do absolutely nothing to fix their current situations.

SupposedlySapiens · 2024-03-21T23:18:51+00:00

The backlash to progressivism and feminism has already begun, and in the next decade we’re going to start to see some social changes that would shock people today.

The pendulum always swings back. Foolish modern Westerners think time is linear, but it’s not. It’s cyclical. Which is why “progress” doesn’t even technically exist. Things change, but always wind up where they began.

-Vault_Dweller- · 2024-03-21T19:51:25+00:00

I find straight white men like myself are really terrible about arguing in good faith and being accountable for stuff like this.

Why would a 'movement' gain any support when the people who would be pushing that movement are the Tate's and Peterson's of the world? Vile shit heads with horrible views.

Purple_Kangaroo8549 · 2024-03-22T15:53:52+00:00

Giving women equal rights without equal responsibilities.

Virtual_Piece · 2024-03-21T20:00:00+00:00

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El_Tigrex · 2024-03-21T19:54:15+00:00

Jordan Peterson and Andrew tate might be the target of mockery and bashing but they appeal to real concerns in men

Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate are gatekeepers meant to keep men in the rate race. They preach the same message in different costumes

If you work hard and make money for the system you can get women

g-panda101 · 2024-03-21T20:51:08+00:00

I think you're seeing men struggling right now but it's going to catch up to women even more so.

I started getting into purple pill debate stuff a month ago. I was reading articles from years ago about the potential of 50% of women to be childless between 26-40. I think we're hitting that iceberg, where they can't have those kids & they will have fertility issues. Falling into despair

purplish_possum · 2024-03-21T19:49:38+00:00

Being a man has always been a high risk proposition. Men die in wars, men die in mines, men die in factories, men die on construction sites, men die on ships that never return to port ... .

Away from the navel gazing classes most men are doing fine today. Indeed since the pandemic there have been more jobs for men. Jobs driving delivery trucks, jobs installing wifi and other communication systems, jobs in construction, jobs in the trades, ...

Dr_Click_Click_Boom · 2024-03-21T23:44:49+00:00

A few things.

They're being raised by women.
Male spaces are disappearing. Not even the Boy Scouts are safe.

qwertyuduyu321 · 2024-03-21T19:16:02+00:00

Paragraphs, where?

qsdf321 · 2024-03-21T23:14:59+00:00

If a man can't start a family of his own, he's not gonna do shit for society. There's just a lack of incentives.

Aywae · 2024-03-22T01:56:23+00:00

"What do you think will happen?"

In the extreme scenario, we're gonna have shit birthrates, and import people from countries who do not give a single shit about women's rights, they will become majority, and women will lose their rights again.

CobaltSphere51 · 2024-03-22T04:22:34+00:00

What is happening to men?

It's not just men, but let's start with them.

Men have lost their role models and no longer know how to be good men. We are suffering the consequences of decades of a decline in the family unit, and most men and women are now growing up in broken homes. If there even is a father or father figure present, that father is also likely to have grown up without a dad or a role model. Women initiate divorces more often, and are more likely to get custody of the kids, and their negative attitudes towards their ex spills over. So sons learn to hate themselves and hate their absent fathers. As adults, they turn their negative feelings outward in the form of aggression towards both men and women. Toxic masculinity is born.

The effects are just as bad for daughters, who also learn to hate men and their absent fathers, except that they mkre frequently turn their negative feelings on themselves. They never learn self-respect and the value they have as women, so they hate themselves. They pair up with dysfunctional men, who they mistreat (because they never saw their mother treat their dad right, and they learned to hate him); those men mistreat the women (because no father ever taught them how to treat women right), and the women decide to hate all men. Toxic femininity is born.

Divorce rates go up. Marriage rates go down. Men and women are less committed to each other, and no longer know how to form a proper lasting relationship. They cheat, they abuse, and it gets worse.

I wish I was making this up, but decades of scientific studies tell us it's true.

Society rejected traditional marriage and values in favor of hedonism and toxic ideology, and we are suffering the consequences.

So, I call to all the good men out there: No matter your age, find a good role nodel. Learn to be a good man. Learn how to be a good masculine leader. First, lead yourself, then lead others. Go be a role model to those who need one. Be a good partner to a good woman, and model a good relationship for your kids.

Independent-Mail-227 · 2024-03-21T20:21:51+00:00

What is happening to men?

Society is trying to numb and subdue men so they can keep using male labour at the same time that they extract most of it, it's basically men being converted in pseudo slaves for the state.

Overall men don’t have the emotional support they need and are emotionally neglected and abandoned.

Men don't need emotional support, they need their issues fixed in a societal level. Emotional support unironically is something that is for women, it never work for men in the long run because the problem will keep hammering their heads. You don't have the luxury of mental support, you need to get up and fix your problems and when such problems are not fixable by the individual mental health will also not help.

What do you think will happen?

It's kinda simple, collapse. Society will collapse once men stop providing excess of labour, the reduction of men willing to fight for their country will sink american influence around the globe and China take over asia with Russia taking over most Europe. Societal changes needed for the birthrates to reach 2.0 will never be enforced. So enjoy the next 20 years of luxury, things will go south really fast.

TRTGymBro · 2024-03-21T20:11:29+00:00

I would feel way more empathy if it weren't for the fierce resistance than any of these men put up when someone offers to actually help them.

Nothing is ever good enough for them short of them growing 6 inches, changing their face and their race completely.

apresonly · 2024-03-21T20:34:23+00:00

men used to get a woman and family to rule over basically just for existing, now that is no longer happening.

its very easy for me to understand why men are struggling. things suddenly changed and the life their grandpas and fathers had is not available to them anymore.

meanwhile my life is better than my grandmothers and mother could ever hope for.

even if my mother and grandmothers employed slave labor (hyperbole) and lived a great life, I can see being upset if my life was suddenly much harder than theirs, even if they achieved their privilege by exploiting others.

Dashing2026 · 2024-03-23T18:14:50+00:00

Nothing is happening. Being a man is just that: living in a world where you will never be cared for.

StaticNocturne · 2024-03-22T03:41:28+00:00

As a man, I appreciate your concern but it’s really not that bad. Most people who are worth engaging with aren’t actively hostile toward men, those who are are just a minority of damaged people who are quite easy to avoid

GridReXX · 2024-03-22T13:04:39+00:00

Inb4: im generalizing

I think men seem to require “lauding over someone(s)” in order to feel satisfied with life. This is just my opinion, but I notice that many men who don’t seem to have this seem to feel listless and unfulfilled.

In the past, they were essentially guaranteed a wife who “had to obey, submit, and defer to him.”

So even if he was incompetent at organically leading others or inspiring others to follow him in his external life, in his domestic life, society had set it up so that he had a wife who satisfied this seeming hard-coded need of his “to be submitted to.” And then once she had kids, he had even more people in his homestead dominion to “lead.”

In the modern world, women aren’t doled out like sheep for men to shepherd.

This has caused a collective existential crisis in the men who aren’t able to 1) inspire those willing to be led by him and 2) inspire desire in a woman willing to happily commit to him.

TLDR: male competitive nature seems to make them unfulfilled when not dominating others. Modern society doesn’t reward dominating others the way it did in the past. I’m sure the people who were dominated are pleased with this agency. I’m sure the men who don’t naturally inspire attraction or submission or friendship are upset they can’t just dominate others into it without consent.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2024-03-21T19:14:19+00:00

What’s really happening: it’s easy to get sucked into the screen and the groups that were already vulnerable, now have the real options to spend most days completely isolated and alone outside of the internet/screens/social media.
Those tend to also be the ones that congregate and talk the most online.

Poly_frolicher · 2024-03-21T20:37:52+00:00

For centuries (and continuing in many cultures around the world) men held all of the power, all of the privilege. In the last century, some larger countries have actively tried to level the playing field. Men now feel victimized.

I guess, in a weird way, men truly are the victim of changing norms and mores. But no one needs to feel sorry for them, and it is on them to find a way to cope and learn to live effectively. Peterson and Tate are reactionary assholes whose answer to these much needed changes is “it’s time to go back to the good old days.” Men need to do better, to find coping methods, to build community and not blame others for their failure to adjust to having less privilege (because they still absolutely have a ton of privilege.)

Blaming women, or feminists, or whatever, is not effective. Lamenting the changes and being all “woe is me” is not effective. Find a way that doesn’t harm others.

Cethlinnstooth · 2024-03-21T23:20:59+00:00

"emotionally neglected and abandoned"

Hazard of living in a free, individualistic capitalist society...the safety nets for all sorts of stuff are minimal and highly targeted to just about precisely what most people can barely get by on and a few people can't survive on at all.

BZP625 · 2024-03-22T07:12:03+00:00

AI will change a lot of things in the next 5 years, including romantic relationships, especially for young men. It's not for the best overall, but it will help a lot with loneliness and depression being felt by many young men. Young men thrive with the digital and virtual world, so the upcoming tech explosion will be good for them. Their socializing will be online or virtual. I also foresee radical changes in our education system will help boys as well.

SnooBananas8024 · 2024-03-22T15:31:28+00:00

As a red piller, if your going to andrew tate or jordan peterson for help your already past help. Stop negotiating with terrorists and grab your passport. Stop caring about other men and worry about yourself.

I had a friend who got treated like a dog by most women. He still got women every no and again but everyone always wondered how xD. Anyways, he went to africa and got married instantly to a beautiful femine muslim woman that treats him like my wildest dreams.

He pays for everything and its perfectly fine, because rent over there is $200 a month. Let these manly women be on their own. Male lonliness is up, but so is female lonliness too. America has dropped to the 24-28th happiest country in the world for a reason.

Its not our responsibility to fix societial issues that we honestly have no control over. Most women dont even understand the natural instincts that come with being a male and to be honest they couldn't care less because they dont have to. They like it when it benefits them but when it doesn't its a problem.

I must add he did this without knowing anything about the red pill or passport bros, he figured this shit out all on his own, which amazed me cause it took me half a decade to come up with the solution.

Remarkable_Rough_89 · 2024-03-22T03:09:42+00:00

A girl decided to dress up as a guy for two years, to see what it’s like, she killed her self, yea being a guy sucks

Professional_Chair28 · 2024-03-21T19:50:51+00:00

Feminism in a way is also hating on men.

Feminism is the advocacy of equitable rights regardless of gender. Feminism does not hate men, lots of men in fact are staunch feminists.

I genuinely think you’d find a lot more of the emotional and social support systems you’re looking for if you were open to a more feminist mindset. It’s about building a better future for all of us, a large part of that is working on mental health awareness for everyone, learning how to face our emotions in a healthy way and figuring out how to support each other.

twistednormz · 2024-03-21T19:59:42+00:00

men are always at fault for their outcomes. If a man suffers it’s usually their fault.

This is a funny take, since women are constantly blamed and held accountable for men's behaviour, men's decisions and men's outcomes.

Feminism in a way is also hating on men.

Nope. And I know you didn't come up with this idea yourself, you just heard or read "manosphere" guys online tell you this.

Jordan Peterson and Andrew tate might be the target of mockery and bashing but they appeal to real concerns in men.

Which real concerns, specifically, do they appeal to?

And I think this is a ticking bomb with very harmful and silent repercussions in society.

Which harmful and silent repercussions do you predict? Because to me this just sounds like a veiled threat that we've heard before, that if women don't treat men as they wish to be treated something bad is gonna happen.

EvilManDevil · 2024-03-21T23:01:15+00:00

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cromulent_weasel · 2024-03-21T23:58:58+00:00

What do you think will happen?

I think there will be more widespread awareness that men need to have an emotional vocabulary and emotional support networks as well. They might not be identical to how women do them, but they will be similar.

When someone searches for this data online the treatment this phenomenon is given it is impossible to find anything related at all.

I think the 'MensSheds' movement is basically the public face of men rebuilding social networks that starts with where they are now.

Ambitious_Mix3233 · 2024-03-22T00:05:14+00:00

I don’t know if anyone here likes Dr K, or even knows who he is, but I think the issues facing men is summed up so beautifully here, in a way all people can understand regardless of gender.

https://youtube.com/shorts/cZfeAYf2gjU?si=P1zl4wc9MSjFVx4k

https://youtube.com/shorts/piFjKARAXr8?si=NWIPcKab0K2fRSz8

Actually men, I’d like to hear your thoughts and experiences on what he’s saying, and if it’s the case for you personally, or the case for western men in general.

eli_ashe · 2024-03-22T00:06:37+00:00

Soooo, gender studies is a thing. Within gender studies there is a masculine studies that is supposed to be focused on mens issues, but so far in practice is behaving like an axillary of women's studies. Specifically, this boils down to men's issues being important or not only as they relate to women. An issue X for men is important if and only if X has some negative or positive impact on women.

Folks could start actually pushing a different narrative within masculine studies, by writing papers and such critical of that basic fallacy within the discipline.

That said, there are the various online bubbles aside from the silliness of tate and peterson. r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates on reddit for instance. There are some significant efforts going on there to try and address the issues such as they can be on reddit. r/MenGetRapedToo is a good resource for the men folks dealing with SA sexual abuse and rape. Something that can help destigmatize dealing with those things. You will be treated kindly there. r/MisandryFreeFemAllies is a new subreddit attempting to do misandry free feminism, I'd encourage the ladies to go there and give it a go.

fwiw there are some attempts at addressing these men's issues in a more sustained, scholarly, accessible, and not hateful towards women manner. Which can be helpful in terms of having a resource all in one place, with a comprehensiveness to it rather than the scattershots that are reddit and social media more generally: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaXyGn49cmSTc9xWs7JI7LO7Ilb_c2uTe&si=QKRdJGI7Q7Bjci00

lovestocomment · 2024-03-22T03:01:12+00:00

I think the core thing we need to fix is how men are valued in our society. Truth is, men are seen as disposable and not worth the time and effort. Especially boys of color. The other thing is highlight traits men have that is valuable outside of money, dick, sacrificing their lives for war and getting demonize.

DzejSiDi · 2024-03-22T11:19:51+00:00

Any ideas on what is happening to men or what may happen?

Go to Bitchute and search for "The Traditionalism Cycle", TFM explained this pretty well.

Anansi3003 · 2024-03-22T11:59:43+00:00

the tato prays on the weakness of young men and uses it to boost his ego and brand.

he is NOT the same as jordan peterson

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GridReXX · 2024-03-22T13:10:03+00:00

Also both men and women exhibit a bias towards women in that they find women to be nicer and more likeable?

In your opinion, are men generally nicer than women? Relatively speaking?

TopEntertainment4781 · 2024-03-22T14:33:51+00:00

I too am concerned with men. I think we need more men like my husband who volunteer coaches soccer with teen boys to help teach them team work and control. We need more boys and girls clubs with men mentoring boys. We need better economics for everyone particularly at the low/middle class. We need more money for parks, public services, classes, like extension courses. We need youth centers. These benefit everyone but I think boys more than girls need that physical outlet too of physical sports.

We need far more family friendly jobs and work regs. People need time to participate as volunteers or spend time with kids. Men need time to interact and give back to the community and socialize.

All these things are gender neutral but would really benefit teen boys more.

Until the 50s we were never “nuclear family in the suburbs”. We were multigenerational families with social ties to our neighbors through rotary clubs, the masons, home and garden clubs. This meant that if your dad walked out on mom or died or was bad, there were cousins or coaches or preachers or teachers to step in.

But we let companies do whatever - I’m watching my husband’s company decide to consolidate in three states. Either you have to tear up you kids out of their community and move five states or just quit.

Soul_vaccine · 2024-03-22T15:44:18+00:00

Hey man the whole reason I’m on this sub is to cheer on my boys. The non psycho ones.

SellMobile3098 · 2024-03-22T22:30:59+00:00

Being deprived of intimacy. All options left for women

Ok-Supermarket-6747 · 2024-03-23T07:34:28+00:00

When men speak up, their voices are often hushed because a lot of women are now setting the standards of the relationship. Even if the man pursues, he still has to make concessions. The reason could be as simple as rape being illegal. However, men want sex so badly that they have not yet calibrated themselves to balance this out in their relationship with the finances they offer the woman. Meanwhile, women are making their own money and men cannot ‘make’ their own sex. Because money actually doesn’t require a romantic relationship but only an employer relationship and because sex work is also illegal, men are suffering. Men cannot set their own standards and whenever they speak up, they are met with sexual denial

Ok-Supermarket-6747 · 2024-03-23T07:43:02+00:00

Men cannot set their own sexual expectations in the relationship but women can. A woman having a job is like a man cheating.

So I guess the men can cheat to meet their needs…but that doesn’t tend to go over well. Women who use their own money in marriages aren’t immediately divorced and cheating is viewed as worse than working. Cheating breaks the marriage contract.

And because men are so Adverse to making a fair arrangement and Spelling Out what financial perks the woman will be getting (because they want to trick her into more free labor or unfair labor) they also cut themselves off from having any way to fight back against her financial leverage.

If it were an honest arrangement you’f think it’d be more well-thought. not having it on paper makes it unenforceable by law. It’s like it’s all under the guise of ‘romance’ : be blind to the potential of being used

And one step further: not only do men not include anything about women’s benefits. Rather, they want to make a Prenup which Prevents benefits. Talk about making her hot and bothered /s

Reality deems we should have sexual prenups, financial prenups and think more seriously about it but too many men hate the ‘friendzone’ or being benched so they can’t even make Good Friends let alone a fair deal

Draager · 2024-03-24T16:28:58+00:00

You sort of hit on it. If you are a woman or person of color, there is a long list of external reasons to explain your lack of success. You are forgiven because of systemic oppression etc.

If you're a single white man with problems, you 100% own them, and it's worse because you should know better, sad that you can't work the system that leans in your favour.

Safinated · 2024-03-21T19:42:06+00:00

Men are isolated because socializing is gay and unnecessary

Men are ignored because interaction is sexualized

And men are alone because women aren’t dependent on them anymore

_Chaos_And_Horny_ · 2024-03-21T20:07:41+00:00

I think men's movement is alive and well. It's just that there's no need to even make a post about it, or a forum about it.

3gm22 · 2024-03-22T03:35:41+00:00

Yes. This is called demoralization, the destruction of truth and morals. Men live for logic and truth, whilst women and moral relativists (atheists, post modernists) live through emotion and desire.

What is happening is we are in a communist revolution which is trying to destroy western men, to prevent them from fighting back.

Men hold society together, protect women and prevent tyranny. The communists, globalists and marxists need to destroy western men to turn the western nations, communist.

To do this, they use post modern critical theory.

James Lindsay explains this all in the following video:

https://youtu.be/y6rk1mYiOAw?si=A8ALMU7djQranBVC

Sharp_Engineering379 · 2024-03-21T22:48:57+00:00

Feminism in a way is also hating on men.

Common misconception among men with delicate egos.

Disinterest or rejection are not “hating on men”.

Choosing not to make their coffee or take notes in meetings is not “hating on men”.

Disappointment and disgust in men’s reliable loss of competence upon marriage is not “hating on men”.

Expecting adult males to take care of their own domestic duties is not “hating on men”.

Choosing not to smile on command is not “hating on men”

Men have become wildly oversensitive and demanding of female validation in recent years and it’s exhausting, frankly, but men have agency and their sexuality and desire for validation is entirely their own responsibility.

tinrooster2005 · 2024-03-21T21:04:03+00:00

There was a sub on here that shall not be named that was reaching critical mass. Just about that time Reddit killed it for hate speech (of which there was some, other things I wouldn't classify as hate speech but certainly not flattering of the opposite sex). What you are seeing is the mainstream fallout of the diaspora.

These men didn't stop sharing their ideas just because reddit killed that sub. The major themes of putting in the minimum effort in all things you don't enjoy, go grey man, limit your involvement to varying degrees with women and society in general are just now starting to become visible. You have politicians wringing their hands about the birthrate. Marriage is at an all time low and will continue to decline until women decide they have had enough, will they? I don't think MOST men and women really like each other that much. So I doubt that will change. Meanwhile older men are warning young men not to get married, men won't join the military because what is there for them to defend. Fast forward another generation maybe there will be a reactionary change but if you've been looking at Japan you can get a vague idea of what is going to happen.

Chucksweager · 2024-03-21T21:30:00+00:00

I think men in general is doing as fine as women, which doesn't mean that they don't have problems. Most problems relate with universal problems both sexes are suffering, but men's problems are always phrased as a threat for someone.

Mostly of those visibles ones are related with the declining marriage rate, but it's impolite to recognize when they affect women, or is taken as a opportunity to blame men somehow.

BlueParsec · 2024-03-21T21:32:35+00:00

"No one gives a shit no one ever gave a shit no one will ever give a shit."

This is the best thing to do - stop giving a shit - it's what makes a man a man in my opinion.

Learn to play the game and get power then do what you want. I'm sure I'm a raging misogynist in some opinions but guess what - I don't give a shit. I still get what I want due to the power I've accumulated. Life is good.

The only reason women are successful in shaming men is because other men subscribe to the female narrative. I don't treat these people as men because I don't have/want to and don't associate with them. The less males shame other men for being misogynistic, the less misogynistic men will be as a whole - it's all about relative perception.

Also, the reason men's groups won't be a thing is because you know what happens when men get together to discuss issues? Revolutions.

Electrical-Task-6820 · 2024-03-21T22:18:14+00:00

This is a very real concern. Thank you for sharing. I’m a Christian so I’m praying about this but as a female I don’t know if there’s anything I can practically do. Men need more mentors and emotional support but I’m not somebody who can mentor a guy… 😢

Intellect7000 · 2024-03-21T19:23:33+00:00

"we as men have it pretty rough I must confess"

How do you as an individual man have it rough?

Title	What is happening to men? I am concerned
Author	_RichardHendricks_
Upvotes	151
Comments	487
Date	March 21, 2024 7:05 PM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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