If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single.

WanabeInflatable · 2024-12-02T15:30:25+00:00

Being a happy single vs miserable husband is a rational choice.

farnort · 2024-12-02T16:21:18+00:00

If you look at the men who believe all women are terrible, boring, and unappealing, these men are typically unsuccessful in dating and miserable. Same goes for women who adamantly spend their time shitting on men online—these women are also miserable.

Miserable unhappy people make blanket statements about the opposite gender as a way to self soothe and rationalize their experiences. It is easier to believe it is not your fault but their fault.

They don’t want to shut up, they want to vent.

Sapphire-Doll · 2024-12-02T16:50:11+00:00

I once had a redpill former friend ask me what makes women more appealing than men if we aren't fulfilling traditional gender roles

Absentrando · 2024-12-02T17:13:59+00:00

They are right about women generally giving shitty advice about dating, but I agree you shouldn’t date people you find boring and unappealing.

Longjumping_Bid_797 · 2024-12-02T15:42:46+00:00

Other people are starting to have a problem with me being single at 33. My older brother wasn't letting it go last christmas and I had to stop accepting dinner invites from him

Zabadoodude · 2024-12-02T16:44:45+00:00

Well they can't be happy being single, that's the problem. I do agree that raging against injustices of the dating landscape is a counterproductive use of time, though.

As far as listening to women's explanations for why they reject guys: they are usually not very accurate. I don't think women are maliciously misleading men, but the halo effect makes it so that attractive, charismatic guys seem to have all the other positive personality traits she wants too.

Men that struggle should take advice from guys that aren't that naturally good looking or rich, but still get women. They actually know what's needed.

caption291 · 2024-12-02T16:45:03+00:00

"If you're not happy with the state of modern women, simply become happy with the consequences of the state of modern women"

Tren_troll · 2024-12-02T15:09:40+00:00

Women: Too many guys put no effort into appealing. Thats why so many are alone.

And then when the guys ask what they can do to be appealing, they get told a bunch of nonsense that makes them even less appealing.

Guys in general like women (and not only romantically, but also as friends). Guys find women interesting. Guys value women's opinions. It's just this one topic (dating) that's absolutely insane and has contradictory messaging coming in from every direction.

siletntium · 2024-12-02T16:07:18+00:00

how dare men expect reciprocation of effort, absolute scum bags!

IdiAminD · 2024-12-02T16:09:49+00:00

It's not worth to listen to women regarding dating imo, I've met one girl(4 years older than me) that was totally frank with me regarding dating and since then I've managed to succeed, she told me:

"Girls judge by the cover and cover is enough. Take care of yourself and buy yourself a nice clothes and you will be good".

She was so right that it was mind-blowing lol.

GltyUntlPrvnInncnt · 2024-12-02T17:37:34+00:00

Just be a Chad and you will not have to spend any money. They will come to you to get fucked.

weenieandthebutt · 2024-12-02T16:39:22+00:00

How is this any different to when women say, "ughhh men prove that sexuality isn't a choice" or something along these lines (it's a typical Facebook tag-group).

meisterkraus · 2024-12-02T18:10:54+00:00

Nice straw man you built there too bad you had to burn it down.

Bitter_Emu6366 · 2024-12-02T15:31:27+00:00

I agree and women that think all men are dangerous should live on lesbos island

NeonCityNights · 2024-12-02T17:05:21+00:00

If you're worried about not being able to get an abortion, just don't have sex

DebateTraining2 · 2024-12-02T19:56:44+00:00

You are right.

But complaining about the other gender is also a good thing, each gender sets the standards for the other, it is a necessary fight for the next generations.

I also want to add that most people struggle with processing tradeoffs and supply-demand; the child in us wants it all.

Sharing my own experience, I am dating a boring woman: she can't hold a conversation, not just with me but everyone, she just answers when people talk to her, she has no drive or clue as to how to initiate conversations or conversation topics, she doesn't even really argue even in heated situations because she doesn't have that talking energy (the other party could make a whole tirade and she would just answer with some brief nonchalant summary on where she stands), she also has no hobby, no particular interest, etc.... But she is appealing, overall and for so many reasons: She genuinely loves me and I do her as well, has my best interests at heart just like I have hers, will gladly do anything I want that she can do and I do the same for her, she understands me and I do her, the sex is explosive, she always wants to spend time with me and I make some time for her, etc... Well, if she is boring, how do we spend time together? I simply initiate all the conversation and she answers a little bit, or I pick us some activity, or we just silently exist there together. In the beginning, it was very hard for me, fluid conversation is one of the things I value most, and having to always be the one talking to get monosyllabic or one-sentence answers, or always be the one picking the activity, was quite mentally taxing. But I figured, she was worth it, and learned to do it, and today I am happy with my boring lady. So many people miss out on love because they don't embrace the fact that options aren't infinite and are typically imperfect, so you will have to do some tradeoff. The only nonnegotiables should be values and red lines like violence, cheating, and intentional malevolence. Every other criterion that people have, they must understand that they'd be better off leaving them bargainable if they want to find love. Your best lover could be 5' tall, your best lover could be a naggy woman, your best lover could have terrible fashion tastes that give you the ick, your best lover could be a pillow princess, your best lover could be some guy who can't remember birthdays or wouldn't be bothered with flowers or such, your best lover could have the most annoying opinions, etc... If you aren't ready to accept that, you will make it waaaay harder for yourself.

dyingfi5h · 2024-12-03T00:49:37+00:00

Five options: MGTOW

Be Gay

Wait and cope by saying "the one" will come one day. (This is just as mature as people wording this nicer, " I want someone who accepts me for me")

Change anyways

All these four require maturity beyond a 5 year old saying "but I WANT ITTTTT"

The fifth option.. Coercion (including money) into it and, everything else. (Please don't do this) Find the right hooker and they'll fake an emotional connection.

Failfellow · 2024-12-03T03:07:43+00:00

This isn't worthy of a debate flair. That was an incoherent rant and I'm one step closer to dementia for trying to understand it

ihaetschool · 2024-12-03T13:36:06+00:00

basically MGTOW

DumbWordsmith · 2024-12-02T15:20:32+00:00

Just because the women available to you would make your life much worse doesn't mean that you wouldn't be better off with a good woman you're attracted to both physically and emotionally. That desire comes from deep within, and you can't just shut it off completely.

Some women here make it seem like all they care about is money and getting their rocks off, and that's cool, but not everyone is like that.

I'm content with being single, especially given my options, but I know that my life would've been a lot better if I had started a family with a virtuous, loyal woman (and great mother) in my 20s. Paying 304s and hanging out with friends doesn't scratch that itch whatsoever — and neither does having low-quality relationships with women I don't want to live with.

IMO there are some awesome women out there; however, the vast majority of them are already taken, and most men aren't lucky enough to land them.

mashedturnip · 2024-12-02T17:52:58+00:00

But sex

Equal_Connect · 2024-12-02T15:49:38+00:00

I think most of us men do want wives but it’s just unclear what women actually want from us. It seems like the average western woman only looks at superman as a potential partner from what i read on the internet but then when i go outside i see dudes who are not superman with girlfriends/wives and it throws a monkey wrench into my (and probably most zoomer mens) idea of what women want.

ACE_Overlord · 2024-12-02T16:10:38+00:00

Well. Solutions?

-Wait for Sexbots (not 4 me) -Learn to enjoy your own company and that of friends (temporary solution) -Get a pet (pet owner population has exploded. I want a herd of Siberian Huskies personally 😁) pets USUALLY give unconditional love. -Grab a Passport. Become a PASSPORT BRO. Date/Marry overseas (My solution after I get richer, hot, and I guess more likable)

ScoopTroopcopiesthat · 2024-12-02T17:16:03+00:00

This is on the same level as saying "you should exile yourself if you don't like the results of the [most recent election]".

rustlerhuskyjeans · 2024-12-02T18:01:31+00:00

Dating is for most women when they want to do it and it's not for most men. Sure it got a bit harder with social media and dating apps, guys want to act like there's too much hoeflation, there's always been hoeflation. I lived in the 90s, the women be picky af and it was 80/20 back then too. Guys call it getting lucky for a reason, because for most men it takes luck and some perseverance. For women, they have always taken it for granted they just had to walk outside before, this is not new.

redd-reader-acc · 2024-12-02T20:25:02+00:00

im going to be 100 straight in you face, see this as feedback or dont, whatever:

often its really the woman that could put more effort in, or love him for anything more than what he can do for her. alot of man opt out of dating because of that and become sugar daddies or get a dog.

dating women is objectively worse for both ever since social media made attention quantifiable. also you seem ignorant that women dont want a boring listener, which alot of guys can confirm on here.

LowCreddit · 2024-12-02T21:28:02+00:00

Everyone who has ever been in the service knows this is a lie. There is no minimum bar of effort that suddenly makes you attractive. That doesn't exist. We know this because women's standards near military bases shoot up compared to further away. Women want the best, not some set of criteria.

If there was a button to make every single man on Earth meet whatever criteria you have in mind, women would demand an even higher bar within a few months. There is no set of checkboxes that will make women happy. That is fantasy and every woman knows this in her heart of hearts.

Pristine_Paper_9095 · 2024-12-03T05:36:12+00:00

I have personally met many appealing, exciting, hilarious, and intelligent women. The kind of women that make you think “damn… they really do exist.”

At the same time, the majority of women I do know are unappealing and boring.

You might think “well that says something about you if the only people you know are unappealing and boring,” except, the men in my life don’t follow that same pattern. They are appealing, funny, and kind people.

Yet the fact remains I’m entirely sexually attracted to women. (well.. ALMOST entirely)

I think it’s a fair observation to make, but I also agree that men shouldn’t complain their standards are too high.

Of course the above EQUALLY goes for women.

Artistic_Bumblebee17 · 2024-12-02T17:20:56+00:00

Muh penis though. And I feel entitled to free sex and labor so hiring help is a no go for me

Reasonable_Style8214 · 2024-12-02T17:38:22+00:00

Why did me asking 1 reasonable question regarding how interesting an average woman is cause you to make an entire post based on a strawman?

wtknight · 2024-12-02T17:59:40+00:00

The complaints are all a psychological power game to try to get the other gender to behave how they want them to behave. It’s not an actual material complaint but instead an attempt at mental manipulation.

comfyassassin · 2024-12-02T18:04:10+00:00

If I go to a barber and he gives shitty haircuts, I’m going to be annoyed and I still want my hair cut. It’s the same principle

FrameWorried8852 · 2024-12-02T16:29:13+00:00

Women are statisticly boring, you telling all men to be single, which is already something they refuse.

Sholnufff · 2024-12-02T17:22:59+00:00

Women aren't boring nor unappealing...you ladies are the more attractive sex, the more wild and exotic.

The problem isn't that your opinions are wrong but rather they are delusional as phoque often rooted with imagative romanticized nonsense. Films like Titantic, Notebook, etc showcase this craziness

When women feel they aren't being heard, more often than not you say/do so much bull💩 that we often tune you out.

Same things with the Bear, the 4B Movement and etc...nonsense after nonsense after nonsense.

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LillthOfBabylon · 2024-12-02T16:34:39+00:00

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FreitasAlan · 2024-12-03T01:20:55+00:00

You can make a comment about most women while still looking for a woman that’s not like most woman. No contradiction here.

DontCallMeNero · 2024-12-03T01:30:41+00:00

That's fair.

Fancy_Technology_563 · 2024-12-03T04:53:37+00:00

My main issue with dating is that the point is to find a partner and begin a relationship and build towards something. While most women are just looking for an entertainer. Like an ignorant child looking to "Laugh" and clap their hands while they laugh and fart.

I have shit to do. Reading, working out, practicing both my hobbies and skills for my job.

Too many women are unable to find enjoyment in building skills/hobby/work. Its all fun and mindless entertainment.
Id rather learn and instrument or coding and build a program or write a song together. Sitting in front of the TV, social media or constantly going out to sit down at some bar is fucking BORING. You are literally doing nothing.

Like the women who obsess over travel but in reality its a low effort way of doing nothing while making it look like you did something. Congrats you flew out to some place and stood in front of a building and took a photo of yourself... What does that do for my life and future? You didnt fly the plane, you didnt build the building. With that logic going outside in front of my house and taking a photo in front of someone elses house makes me accomplished?

Thats the issue most men have with women when we say they are "Boring". Most women just consume content and are excited to consume more content. No effort from their part other than reacting. Life being one giant reaction video for them where being entertained is the most important thing ever.

JollyRoger66689 · 2024-12-03T09:24:54+00:00

Another Lilith of Babylon anti male post? Color me shocked.

Nah the real answer is to do what you want to do. Want to be MGTOW? Be MGTOW, want to date women with marriage in mind, do that, want to date with short/casual in mind? Do that as well

Morrigan_StRoma_709X · 2024-12-03T11:57:17+00:00

Cuz prostitution is illegal isn’t not actually that easy to pay for sex. It’s also decently expensive and you don’t know if she’s got an std.

If ur a young man with little cash, it’s legitimately more economical to just match with every woman and try sex on the first date than regularly paying for sex.

bluehorserunning · 2024-12-03T13:06:01+00:00

Literally every male comment in here is proving OP right😂

Horror-Gur-8652 · 2024-12-03T13:09:21+00:00

the answer is simple : its impossible to be appealing to modern women... their demandings are unrealistic and they are also unappealing to men.

"So, Why men just don't give up? "

they are "gradually giving up, actually, over 1/3 of American men never tried to date women in their lives, and those numbers are increasing.... 45% of young women will be single and childless by 2030. some men are still trying relationships because they believe in romanticism and don't want to lose hope, those poor guys will sooner or later realize that modern women are just not compatible to love anymore... so, don't worry, the rational men are already leaving and find alternatives.

ThatBitchA · 2024-12-02T18:58:21+00:00

They don't feel women are boring or unappealing.

They are projecting their own boring and unappealing lives onto the biggest boogeyman of all: women.

They are ultimately afraid of women. I assume because of their relationships with their own mother. I theorize that all the "single moms are bad" discourse is from men in single mom households.

This sub is a great example of projection, cultist behavior, and childhood fantasies.

hotpotato128 · 2024-12-02T16:05:06+00:00

I don't think any man would be rejected by 100% of women. Although, a man can decide to give up on dating.

UninterestingDad · 2024-12-02T16:09:41+00:00

The trouble is that Internet culture has made people less compatible with each other. I'm old enough (although not that old) to remember a time when there was 10% as much content out there as there is now, so people were watching the same movies, and listening to the same music.

These days people develop highly specialized interests that few other people share. I like dreamcore / shoegaze music. Do I ever expect to meet a woman who does? Probably not. Men tend to get into specialized niche interests while women tend to stick to mainstream pop slop.

I think if people are going to have good relationships in this day and age they need to accept a lower level of immediate compatibility and shared interests and work on growing together and developing shared interests.

SuckingMuffin · 2024-12-02T20:04:46+00:00

Most PEOPLE are boring, unappealing, and have the wrong opinions.

It still doesn't make being single any less lovely, hollow, devoid of romantic love, and sad.

It's a struggle to meet someone you click with.

centaurus_a11 · 2024-12-02T20:14:49+00:00

But I genuinely want to know why does the burden of putting efforts and being interesting lie on men alone? Could somebody explain to me as if I was 5?

TheRealHelloDolly · 2024-12-03T03:16:45+00:00

But will insufferable guys do if they can’t get their dick wet?

random_user00098 · 2024-12-02T15:09:21+00:00

Tldr ?

BobtheArcher2018 · 2024-12-02T15:55:33+00:00

I think the individual and societal levels are getting conflated here. On an individual level, shit is how it is. Get better, accept what you can get, or opt out. STFO whatever way you go about it.

But on a societal level, things are different. Gender fairness matters. It isn't OK for either gender to walk away from the other. Society has to work.

ArtifactFan65 · 2024-12-02T21:26:33+00:00

Women don't always know what they want and they are often intentionally dishonest to virtue signal, it's okay to point out when they are wrong.

Most people have an intrinsic desire for sex and emotional connections so remaining single isn't a great solution.

Single men aren't causing their own problems however I agree that they often aren't trying hard to find the solution. In this case the solution is to go to the gym and get shredded, learn game etc.

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ZestycloseAlfalfa736 · 2024-12-02T16:03:31+00:00

Agreed.

Former-Community5818 · 2024-12-02T21:56:15+00:00

Or just be gay and happy?

KamuiObito · 2024-12-03T05:01:57+00:00

No women dont have to be nearly perfect or how I want them specially to be admired and deserving of love. Yall are the weird ones who only can fathom loving sb NOT.completely superior to yourself. Than yall complain about how shit men are like yall aren’t attempting yo date the same 5 guys who literally doesnt respect you at all. Then Repeat cycle generationally.

If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single.

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Title	If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single.
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