The 'Chad Cck Carousel is a Myth

AlmostKindaGreat · 2023-07-27T00:12:01+00:00

Thanks for the post.

What jumped out to me was this one, with the 85th and 90th percentiles.

GSS	2000	2002	2004	2006	2008	2010	2012	2014	2016	2018	2021	2022
80th	12	13	15	12	12	15	10	13	12	10	10	7
95th	30	40	35	40	50	35	45	36	35	25	50	23

It's very useful to break this down by percentile instead of percentages in each group. The eye-popping thing here is that the top 5% of guys have about 3-5 times the sex as the guys in the top 20%! They get many multiples of the sex of guys who are only slightly less attractive and outside the top few percent.

While this does not prove that women ride the "Cock Carousel", it does prove that the ability to get sex for men is truly exponential as it approaches the very top percent. In other words, Chad exists and the 80/20 rule is basically true, though it probably should be more like the 90/10 or 95/5 rule.

DapperDan1929 · 2023-07-27T02:07:27+00:00

TL;DR lol. My god where do people find the time

Billsandasonom · 2023-07-27T02:16:12+00:00

I lean redpill and am more sympathetic to the struggles of men but it's true from what I've seen the cock carousel is a myth. At most you get a few men per year for a few years from women when they are young, stupid and wild. I've heard men complain that it's common for women to regularly hit their 30s with a 100+ bodycount which is laughable. When all's said and done, women do have it easier in dating though; most women I know are either [very] temporarily single or in committed relationships.

random923828 · 2023-07-27T01:06:04+00:00

There are also a whole set of women outside of the norm, who are not married yet are older due to reasons other than promiscuity. A number of these women have been off the modern dating scene almost entirely or entirely. For example:

Women who became early in youth caregivers to a profoundly disabled, chronically ill, or elderly relative.

Women who are or were religious and their religious group forbids / forbade sex before marriage, going on traditional dates, dating outside their religion, and dating outside of their congregation, but their congregation is small with little desirable (within normal not Chad-level standards) options. Sometimes due to the lack of options some religious people tell these women they are "called to singleness", even if it means suffering. "Purity" is highly prized in some religious groups. A woman's views may change skewing to a different interpretation of her religion than the one taught to her, she may change religions, or leave religion entirely. Sometimes this happens a little later in life. These women were not promiscuous.

Women who married young who were deceived by a man who pretended to be a nice guy, then took off their mask and were abusive behind close doors. This category is largely misunderstood in general as abuse is. Yes, there are Chads who actively and publicly are abusive and off-putting. However, many people would be surprised how many abusers present themselves as the complete opposite in public, and while dating. I'm talking men who publicly volunteer for worthy causes, are upstanding pillars of the community, and otherwise appear as beacons of morality and virtue. I personally knew a woman who married a man who outwardly was very respected. However, she had to leave because behind closed doors he was physically abusing her, like strangling her, etc. No one believed her when she tried to get help because the husband had the public outward reputation of being upstanding. Before I knew what was going on with her being physically abused, I once saw a flash of his anger while he was driving and it sent off alarm bells and was completely jarring and very opposite of the public image he held. Unfortunately, in many abusive situations many abusers present themselves as the exact opposite up front to snag a woman. Then once they have her the mask comes off in private. This is a known phenomena in malignant narcissism. There is a reason why certain abusers are referred to as Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, because they are like two opposite people. Unfortunately, not all abusers send out red flags and are extremely skilled at deceiving many people. That is why it is so hard for women to spot them as abusers, then for people to believe it when abused women report abuse. There have been a number of high profile cases where a man has a sterling public reputation, seems like a great dad, husband, and then the wife ends up murdered. People shake their heads in disbelief because "he was such a nice, normal guy". That is a classic Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde abuser. Unfortunately, there are a number of women who enter into a faithful, monogamous relationship with one man, stay with him then have to leave not because she got bored, but because her life was in danger. And no, it is not easy to leave due to all the tactics abusers pull behind the scenes like blackmail, abuse, threats, etc.

Women who are demi-sexual and have not found the right person yet. These are women who aren't interested in a sexual romantic relationship with someone they don't know well. These women are usually turned off by online dating because there is this societal rule that after a certain amount of dates a woman should put out. That doesn't work with a demi-sexual woman. Many men are not willing to stick around romantically if a woman will not put out, that puts a demi-sexual woman at a disadvantage in terms of finding a relationship to some degree.

Women who are scared of / have been traumatized by bad men. Unfortunately, there are good women who have been molested or raped by men. A number of them go to therapy and work through the issue and fully recover from the trauma, but that may take some time to heal from. If a woman has a period of time where she is dealing with PTSD related to men she is not going to want to date for a while. Also, there are many instances of men committing violence against women. There is a set of women who are truly to some degree are fearful of men. It may take a while for a woman to see that not all men are bad, Also, online dating is also inherently a bit risky for women because you don't exactly know you are meeting or if their intentions are ethical. There have been instances where women have been abducted or murdered after meeting a man online from a dating site. There are a number of women who would prefer to be safe rather than sorry and just don't date from apps. They may prefer to meet a man through people they know, and that might take some time.

Women who are single because they spent much of their youth avoiding advances from hordes of Chad types, PUA types, and a lot of men who are only after one thing (though not all, a lot of modern men). Quality women tend to view men who sleep around heavily as low quality men. He not only possibly has an STD, he shows a lack of will or capability to treat a woman with respect for the long term, and value a woman for who she is beyond her physical appearance or ability to provide babies. A man can have 6 figures, be what redpillers define as a Chad, looks like a hot guy, etc., but would be perceived as a 1 or a 2 by women because he is sexually loose, shows poor character in how he handles women in general. Quality women after something real and meaningful are likely to refuse advances of these men, or get deceived by the ones who lie. After getting burnt by being lied to by a guy a woman was developing real feelings for, or hassled to quickly jump in bed by many men she has encountered, a woman like this often just steps back off the dating market and hopes she will meet someone naturally who doesn't look to use her. Some of these women can be single for a very long time, and not promiscuous because they are hoping for a situation to happen that is very rare in today's society where many people of both sexes sleep around.

Women who hate the modern dating scene, and all it's rules and expectations. I have not been on the dating scene due to being a caregiver for quite some time. However, just reading about all of the stuff that goes with modern dating is overwhelming: game-playing like dragging out responding to texts, acting not interested when you are, you can't talk about xyz on date 1, but you can talk about it on date 3. The expectation to put out by a certain number of dates. The expectation on modern women to remain completely chaste while dating a pool of men who all on average expect sex after just a few dates. Kind of creates an unrealistic situation of pressure to be a pure untouched virgin or have a low body count but also "better put out or I'll bounce" attitude of a lot of men on dating apps. All of that can be exhausting for a woman, and many women just avoid online dating and modern dating entirely. They are not promiscuous, they are just not sexually active with men through modern dating and prefer to go it alone in many respects.

Modern dating is hostile to the women who really prize romance and the emotional experience of falling in love. For women, many want to fall in love, and would prefer it be a natural experience but modern dating dynamics make that difficult. Modern dating is more like a noisy clamorous unromantic market. They don't want to go on dates with multiple people all the time, while men are also doing the same and deal with the constant churning cycle of getting interested, finding out he's seeing other people, does he / does he not like me phase, what are we phase, ghosted, fizzled out, or moved on to the next. There are women who find all of that just exhausting, not fun and just avoid it entirely and hope they will eventually meet someone in a natural way and have the experience of two people just falling in love.

These are just some realistic reasons why a number of women may still be single older, but are cases where they were absolutely not promiscuous.

daddysgotanew · 2023-07-27T00:16:08+00:00

There’s no way I know all 95th percentile people.

There’s lying in there. A lot of it

kvakerok · 2023-07-27T13:30:02+00:00

So much butthurt about the CC theory and so much effort to discredit it, but to what end?

Are you trying to make us believe that the world is any kind of "fair" or "just"? That women aren't hoe-ing around in the ever increasing numbers? Well, they're banging someone, and it sure as hell ain't the average guy from the OLD apps.

Zabadoodude · 2023-07-26T23:32:55+00:00

This is interesting data. Thanks for compiling it!

Unfortunately the guys who believed in the ubiquitous chad-cock-carousel will just disregard this data as unreliable while taking a single, unscientific Okcupid survey from 2013 as gospel.

Flash_4_Crab · 2023-07-27T19:18:05+00:00

TL.

You're implying the Chad Cock Carousel started in recent years. When in reality it started when the BC pill came around and reached the levels it is now in the 90s. 100 years ago 85% of women were virgins on their wedding night and the age of first marriage was 5-6 years younger.

Nihi1986 · 2023-07-28T00:28:35+00:00

Seriously, I know you made lots of research but we really need a tldr...

Also, I'm pretty sure it's usually the 'same' men (attractive, confident, extroverted men) having numerous relationships and sexual partners. We now live in a more connected and visual society due to social media, it only makes sense that these men (often players) are getting now more partners than before.

antariusz · 2023-07-27T00:14:05+00:00

This giant post is posited on the fact that women are not lying when they tell researchers how many men they sleep with.

This assumption is a huge fallacy in everything else.

I'm a huge outlier, I've slept with hundreds. And just in the past month I've slept with 4 different women. But I know 2 of those women have boyfriends, and if they were were ever asked about me, they would be like shaggy "wasn't me" deny deny deny.

MyLastBestChance · 2023-07-27T01:28:36+00:00

As expected, the cries of “women lie”🤣.

These guys are incredibly emotionally invested in their chosen set of beliefs. The same patterns can be seen in cult members and adherents to any extreme religious or political ideology.

When people have arranged their lives and sense of self around a set of beliefs, accepting data that challenges that belief system would require them to acknowledge that they’ve been fooled. No one wants to feel foolish or vulnerable or as if they have been duped.

The manosphere content creators know this and when they create these convenient storylines, the creation of the necessary “others” that are the real object of their followers misery, they build in the auto-refutations for their followers to use to avoid seeing the truth when presented with actual evidence of that inconvenient truth.

If average men learned that they aren’t actually missing out on a mythical sexfest, why would they pay for “solutions”?

If there’s no enemy, you don’t need to buy the weapons of war…

keepin2002 · 2023-07-27T12:01:25+00:00

You have too much time on your hand

chocobolamo · 2023-07-27T19:14:25+00:00

I dated a few women who got stuck on the carousel. I heard it frequently early on in a relationship from the mouths of women I was dating.

SteveSan82 · 2023-07-27T03:18:18+00:00

Women lie about their notch count

hari_hbp · 2023-07-27T05:40:45+00:00

It's not that every woman is a CCC rider. It's the idea that any woman can and as such, men should either prepare themselves mentally and be ready to find out one day that his beloved wife got gangbanged once in college or they should just stop dating women all together (which I guess is something women would be really happy about)

PrinceArchie · 2023-07-27T01:54:49+00:00

It seems you're trying to tackle more than a few things with your data sets to try to disprove everything all at once, which seems incredibly flawed by nature as im sure you dont have enough data present to do so in a single post. All your data doesnt make a distinction between heterosexual and non-heterosexual individuals for instance, which would likely have a significant impact on the data. Also the downward trend for chad (80th vs 95th percentile) has maintained itself to be 3-5 times higher across the board. So what is considered "chad" essentially may need to be reconsidered but it seems pretty consistent with me more desirable men are having significantly more sex. Those guys who tend to be more desirable skew incredibly high toward the extreme upper end and its not even close.

That being said, if you were trying to prove moreso simply that more single women aren't alternatively seeking chad instead of choosing to remain single I mean sure, you have evidence for that which is acceptable. The rise in sexlessness in single people both men and women does seem consistent across the board. It would even seem more men are still reporting to be single than women, which sort of undermines your premise to a degree if your position is that women are more likely to engage in sex if in the context of a relationship. I'm not sure if "situationships" are included but its certainly a possibility that they also are a contributing factor no?

Edit: Also upon thinking about this further there also might be a possibility more men are willing to engage with sex workers as well and counting that towards thier "Casual sexual encounter".

neinhaltchad · 2023-07-27T04:48:40+00:00

Anybody who, in 2023 believes in “self reported studies” on matters that have the weight of social judgement around them should get their head examined.

Did people just forget that in 2016 and in 2020 the “shy Trump Voter” literally exploded the models just about every pollster had been using for decades?

Trump was supposed to get crushed in both elections. He won one, and barely lost the other despite polls showing him far behind.

I loathe Trump, but it’s easy to see why this was. Many many people didn’t want to tell pollsters “the truth” but “in the privacy of the ballot box” did what they wanted.

So, in the end the self reported / solicited polls were worthless, but what people did without the gazing eyes of judgement on them was vastly different.

In this case, compare this self reported data to something like anonymous Tinder, Bumble or OKC data.

That data is what women do in the ballot box

Compare the blind, judgement free data to self reported polls on sexuality and you’ll see that the data cited actually verifies that a huge amount of men are struggling with romance and sex.

If somebody is going to argue with a straight face that women don’t lie “down” while men lie “up” they don’t understand basic psychology.

Women tell each other to lie about this

Same with women talking about what they are attracted to. They don’t care about height when you ask, but then bumble comes out and blows that gaslight all to hell and all women could say was “that was just women who paid for the filter!”

Then, when it was pointed at the data was from a time where height filters were not premium features, but free? …

🦗🦗🦗

Hell, you could even argue that the both the Chadfishing “nazi pedo Chad” experiments and their close cousin the “Pig Woman” experiment are more honest representations of people’s nature since they were done under the auspices of complete anonymity.

I wouldn’t argue that this is hard data like mass swiping analytics, but it still tells you something

Now, common sense tells you that men would consider “loser virgin” as the one of worst things they could admit to being while women see being a slut as one of the worst. Can we at least agree on that?

That fact alone should douse every self reported statistic on n counts here with a huge grain of salt.

OP also hamsters away things like rising STD rates and “suspect” data showing the disparity in self identified “single” people by gender, but ignores these are (ironically) the only stats from which the element of judgement and shame is removed or even reversed.

STD stats are pure data. They are agnostic. These data points are closer to “who swiped on what percentage of people in this time frame”

Similarly, the “single / not single” does not remotely carry the same weight / incentive to lie as sexual n count does for the simple reason that a single man isn’t admitting to being “single and sexless” (though he likely is) and a single woman sees being “in a relationship with Chad” (who may or may not have other girls TeeHee) far easier to admit than “fucked 5 chads on spring break”. Women are also likely to see being single as “a noble choice” in the first place.

The only data OP seems to hang on to are the self reported “what’s your N count, ma’am?”

Well, that time in the stall with Chad didn’t count because he didn’t finish.
Thad in Cabo was only oral
Brad was during “hot girl summer”. Me and Becky said those don’t count because we’d only do anal.

It sounds ridiculously but every man has heard women say shit just like this.

Now, all that said, I agree the notion of the CC is a bit silly as it’s commonly used but it certainly does exist from Chad’s POV

Why?

Because the casual sex “market” tends to have 3 participants.

Fuck-girls who love to fuck casually and do so long term / as a lifestyle.
Relationship-girls who are relationship types, but enter a “Ho phase” 1 or 2 times in life during which they fuck a couple of guys casually. Usually the hottest guys they can find.
Chad who fucks fuck-girls and Ho-phase relationship girls and often relationship girls when they are not in their Ho phase but believe they lock Chad down.

So, not every woman is “riding the CC”, but if and when they do, it is invariably with Chad.

I would say it’s highly likely that the majority of women are not on the CC, but many take a brief ride on it during their “Ho phase” after a break up.

Men, other than Chad do not have the options of either of the women to indulge this way, even briefly.

And getting back to the stats, many women wouldn’t “count” Ho-phase hook ups because “I was drunk and I think he only fingered me” etc

This is what creates the imbalance.

princelydeeds · 2023-07-27T01:14:47+00:00

I can't imagine actually having the time to read all that shit.

Having the time to actually compile that shit... 😒

TheGreatBeefSupreme · 2023-07-26T23:36:45+00:00

Well done.

Taylor_Momsen · 2023-07-27T02:22:29+00:00

Women only count sexual partners they have feelings for. One night stands? Hookups? Drunken car fuck in the club parking lot? They will NEVER report those.

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Cool_Ranch_2511 · 2023-07-27T00:07:30+00:00

> This result confirms responses to sex surveys under anonymous conditions are as valid as when administered under a lie detector condition.

you forgot the word "fake". Fake lie detector.

TheMedsPeds · 2023-07-27T02:03:15+00:00

I can't believe people actually sit around and try figure this kind of thing out. It's mind boggling to me. Why? Like, is there some sort of frustration deep inside you that motivates a firey passion to intellectualize dating norms? Like this sort of thing takes hours. I'd love to understand the thought process that leads to this. Does it help anything internally? Do you think by obtaining this "information" it will impact your social life. Kind of like taking a class and writing papers for said class. Instead of getting a passing grade and degree for demonstrating that you understand this subject, you are rewarded with a woman?

Edit: I kind of looked over most of this and you do seem to arguing against RP belief from my understanding. Sp I commend you for that. But still...the fact that the amount of time was focuses on THIS and it's not related to any sort of college paper has just got me speechless over here.

obviousredflag · 2023-07-27T07:55:40+00:00

You lose some people with this overly long post and they will not accept the way you disproved the "women just lie about their sexual partners" reports.

Get people on board with accepting that men and women lie about their sexual partners number. BUT: women correct downwards, men correct upwards. So while men lie, their reported numbers are definitely not too small. Then you can make the point that even those inflated numbers do not allow for any significant amount of women to have a "chad cock carousel lifestyle". If only 5% of women would ride a dick every weekend, male average sexual partner numbers would be WAAAAAAAAAAY higher.

You need to condense all that data down to a new image of what is going on with women's lifestyle regarding cock carousel and sexual partners. Cock carousel lifestyle goes out the window and is replaced by a new, accurate representation of what is happening: women are having about 1 sexual partner per year, and in most cases, this is a committed relationship partner. If women had a cock carousel lifestyle, there would be a substantial amount of men with high triple digit sexual partner counts, which men do not come close to with their boastful reports.

raldabos · 2023-07-27T01:02:11+00:00

Let me guess... all those studies are based in asking people if they have sex, right? When they are asked, many women often claim that they haven't had many partners. This is due to societal conditioning that discourages women from engaging in multiple relationships.

Wide-Illustrator2906 · 2023-07-27T02:58:09+00:00

You will never get an accurate number on people's body counts without lie detector tests.

Preme2 · 2023-07-27T03:19:21+00:00

I won’t be able to address much but I’ll try to address some.

Someone did mention before the CC was a myth. I don’t think it’s what it use to be. The data seems to suggest that even the top men have less casual sex partners compared to the past and I think that makes some sense.

In the past their was probably more “pumping and dumping”. The top men would sleep with women and quickly find another one.

Today, I think there are way more low commitment, casual situationships than in the past. Women’s n count is reduced because they aren’t hopping from guy to guy. Instead they are on chads roster for months or years. They’re sharing these guys beyond what they could normally get. This, in turn, forces the more average to below average men to adjust their expectations and methods to obtain sex.

The data doesn’t and really can’t suggest how these people get their n count. For example, if a guy goes to another country and sleeps with 10 women, what does that really say about him? If he’s presented in this survey you would think he’s actually doing well, when in reality he might be struggling in terms of dating in middle America. We know this type of practice is on the rise as travel becomes more accessible for the average American today, compared to a few decades ago.

I look at the sexlessness stat almost like I look at a homelessness stat. If a guy eats out of the trash can is that really a win? I’m sure women like to say “at least he ate” but I don’t really think that’s a good measure. I would like to know the quality of the food as well. Was it nutritious or was it just a fat piece of slop to get him through the day? Relating this back to the dating landscape, are men having sex with their equal or are they dropping their standards to the floor just to get by? I believe they’re doing the latter.

Again, I don’t think the data can really dig into the weeds like personal anecdotes can. You can see both of these play out where women might not necessarily be raising their n count, but engaging in these situationships, making dating more difficult for the average guy. In turn this forces the average guy to be more “desperate” and pursue other means such as being passport bro or dropping his standards to the floor. The data would suggest nothing has changed or even improving but I think people are just exhausting more options and taking more drastic measures to achieve the same results.

Draken3000 · 2023-07-27T18:59:54+00:00

Self reported data

Aaaaand you’ve lost me immediately, people lie out the ass about their sex lives.

szclimber · 2023-07-27T04:16:56+00:00

Most women are serial monogamous. They go from serious relationship to serious relationship with little time in between. Most women want a LTR and not interested in having sex with the entire basketball team

Epiphanic_Eros · 2023-07-27T03:12:49+00:00

Thank you! That was a Herculean labor, but I dearly hope it can go a good way toward ridding young men of this pernicious, self-defeating piece of misogynist ideology.

SillyMushroomTip · 2023-07-27T09:09:25+00:00

the Cock Carousel is real

iGetBuckets3 · 2023-07-27T00:37:04+00:00

Holy shit get a life

Vegetable-Rub3418 · 2023-07-27T01:51:22+00:00

Do you have a tldr

username_6916 · 2023-07-27T08:37:51+00:00

What we see is that whether you go by the median, the mean, or the 80th percentile, the numbers remain remarkably stable across the years. Even the more promiscuous women don't appear to be becoming any more promiscuous than they were 20 years ago. So it seems like claims of wildly escalating female promiscuity is highly overblown.

Compared to... When? 20 years ago was still post sexual revolution. Compare that to the early 1960s when most folks had only one partner in a lifetime, 3 is still a lot. Heck, just look at the reaction when I suggest I'd like to marry a virgin: "That's unrealistic". Why is that now?

puddingbike · 2023-07-27T03:48:02+00:00

CMV Disagreement

You did a commendable job of gathering data. I'll say that. But, you recognize the problem also.

Now of course the main critique of this data will be that it relies on self-reports.

That's correct. And, your point about STDs doesn't fulfill the burden to overcome that.

I base my views on what I've seen and experience. There are A LOT...and, I mean... A LOT of women who have reached 50 partners by the time they receive an undergraduate degree. That averages 1 different partner a month. That's A LOT more common than you seem to think OP.

LiveYour_BestLife · 2023-09-04T19:33:13+00:00

I find it laughable. I Just turned 30 and only been with 2 people my entire life. But I look at anybody with a high body count weird and disgusting. No reason anybody 18-35 should have been with more than 3-5 people their entire life.

Just like when men say women want men with experience, why do you think that is sir? Cause she’s been with hella dudes. But y’all don’t think like that. Only women who need to lie about their body count are hoes. A real one gonna keep 100 regardless of its high or low. But if she didn’t wait till marriage, that should tell you how she moves anyway.

6DT · 2023-07-26T23:37:08+00:00

On the other hand they're almost as likely to orgasm as men are when sex is had in the context of a committed relationship.

Incorrect. Wildly incorrect, even. Pointing out this inaccuracy doesn't invalidate your other points. But you are objectively, scientifically wrong on this. The orgasm gap has been proven a dozen times already, including in the publication you linked. So don't try to strawman it in as false in your CCC-is-a-myth argument. Please update your analysis about the orgasm gap so your CCC argument is stronger.

edit: y'all need to read the article OP linked. The orgasm gap is nearly 30% between straight men and women; the gap between straight women and lesbians is nearly the same i.e. the problem is hetero sex culture not women being unable to orgasm. lol

Ohmaygahh · 2023-07-27T15:07:53+00:00

This literally proves the pareto principle.

itm4l2000 · 2023-07-27T07:10:53+00:00

I think the myth is enduring.

The female equivalent to this is all men are dogs.

Modern society has ripped off the guard rails that religion enforced in previous times and doesn't have an over riding belief system to replace it.

domdomdom333 · 2023-07-27T11:46:32+00:00

Thanks for the time to post but got a mean of 5 for how many people women have slept with, wtf is so high damn 💀💀

zaph239 · 2023-07-27T17:41:56+00:00

Nobody is reading all that.

calfshrug · 2023-07-28T03:22:05+00:00

There’s a word for this, which rhymes with Pope. OP, I’ve written up very long-winded posts many times, but I always try to leave either a caveat that I may be wrong, or a caveat that I haven’t included sources, or a caveat that I am being sarcastic.

I’m afraid that you are over-extrapolating from the data available. The data isn’t good enough for this. The data merely suggests that there is quite a bit of casual sex happening, and that there was a downtick in the sexual intercourse frequency of normie, middle percentiles of people over the last decade and especially during the pandemic.

STDs are in no way a guarantee with sex. In total, I’ve had sex with around 60-70 prostitutes, of which 8-12 were transsexual MTF. I’ve had sex, some oral exclusively but mostly anal+oral, with another 10-15 XY people whom I wasn’t paying who were either drag, male-presenting, or mtf, and out of the XY people I had sex with, about 7-10 of them penetrated me anally with protection, and the total number of such sexual events was limited to one occasion of receptive anal per partner.

As far as XX women I’ve had sex with whom I wasn’t paying, there are around 15, or 17 if I count oral sex only. I’ve eaten ass on another few women who were prostitutes who were not included in any of the above tallies.

Statistically, I’ve probably had sex with a few people with HIV. How many times have I gotten an STD? Zero. How many STDs do I have? Zero.

Not a single STD after having sex with basically 100 people on 105 occasions over the course of 8 years. Oh, and I also had unprotected sex with with one partner, one of the first few, an 18 year old college girl, when I was 20.

HungryNRaging · 2023-07-28T04:25:46+00:00

This is all cope

naeboy · 2023-07-28T18:01:33+00:00

PIN THIS POST

JustACogInAMachine · 2023-07-29T07:12:02+00:00

You can’t trust self reported stats. Men feel social pressure to exaggerate how many partners/sexual experiences they’ve had while women are pressured to do the opposite.

moosemc · 2023-07-29T11:14:05+00:00

I had to block a user from this thread. I kept getting posts in my inbox, but when I replied, the post was gone, when I tried to look at the context, the post was gone. It looks like they're sending me messages that get deleted before I can reply to them.

Very strange.

NSFG	2002	2006-10	2011-13	2013-15	2015-17	2017-19
Median	3	3	3	3	3	3
Mean	4.8	5.1	5.5	4.9	5	5.4
80th Percentile	7	7	8	7	8	8
95th Percentile	17	15	15	12	15	16

GSS	2000	2002	2004	2006	2008	2010	2012	2014	2016	2018	2021	2022
18-29 Men	16.1%	12%	16.1%	11.6%	14.3%	12.9%	19.4%	17.1%	22%	25.3%	19.2%	11.3%
18-29 Women	11.2%	9.2%	13.6%	15.6%	8.1%	13.9%	11.4%	13.4%	18.9%	14.6%	30%	10.8%

NSFG	2011-13	2013-15	2015-17	2017-19
Men	19.2%	18.5%	21.8%	22.8%
Women	18.1%	18.3%	17.8%	21.9%

NSFG	2011-13	2013-15	2015-17	2017-19
Men	13.1%	11.2%	13.8%	15.2%
Women	12.6%	12.8%	13.5%	15.5%

Lifetime Casual Sex Partners	Male	Female	Casual Sex Partners In Past Month	Male	Female
None	24.8%	29%	None	72.7%	75.8%
1	14%	14.4%	1	19.1%	20.2%
2-3	24.2%	24%	2-3	6%	3.6%
4-7	17.5%	16.8%	4-7	1.7%	0.3%
8-10	5.1%	6.4%	8-10	0.2%	<0.1%
>10	14.4%	9.4%	>10	0.3%	<0.1%

The 'Chad Cck Carousel is a Myth

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NSFG	2002	2006-10	2011-13	2013-15	2015-17	2017-19
Top 80th Percentile	10	11	12	11	10	10
Top 95th Percentile	26	30	38	30	30	25

Source	Men	Women	Outcome
How Many Millennials Find Someone On Tinder	21.3% (Millennials)	19.8% (Millennials)	Met up with someone through Tinder
2,218	1,638
Sexual Health In The Netherlands, 2017
15% (Ages 18-24)
13% (Ages 18-24)
Been on a date through online dating
4,934	8,216
	9% (Ages 18-24)
7% (Ages 18-24)
Had sex through online dating

	10% (Ages 25-39)
7% (Ages 25-39)
Been on a date through online dating	427	687
	7% (Ages 25-39)
4% (Ages 25-39)
Had sex through online dating
Sumter et al., 2017
44.4%
44.1%
Been on a Tinder date (Of those who've used it), M Age = 23.7
72	68
	28.8%
7.6%
Hooked up through Tinder (Of those who've used it), M Age = 23.7
73	66
Swiss National Survey, 2017
35.2% (M Age = 26.4)
22.5% (M Age = 26.3)
Had sex through the internet
2,864	2,746
Morning Consult, 2018
6.2%
2.2%
Hooked up through online dating
1,061	1,143
	8.7%
9.5%
Been on one or more dates through online dating

NSFG, 2017-19
8.6% (Ages 18-29, Heterosexual)
7.4% (Ages 18-29, Heterosexual)
Had sex in the past year with someone met through online dating
1,711	1,761
Rosenfeld, 2018 (HCMST, 2017)
1.4% (Heterosexual)
1.3% (Heterosexual)
Met someone off a dating app for 'dating, romance, or sex in the past year'

American Perspectives Survey (2020)	Married	Cohabiting	Non-cohabiting	Single
18-29 Men	13%	15%	11%	59%
18-29 Women	24%	26%	9%	38%
American Perspectives Survey (2022)	-11%	-11%	-2%	21%
18-29 Men	17%	14%	10%	57%
18-29 Women	22%	19%	13%	45%
GSS 2021	-5%	-5%	-3%	12%
18-29 Men	15%	15%	6%	64%
18-29 Women	14%	21%	12%	52%
GSS 2022	1%	-6%	-6%	12%
18-29 Men	18%	13%	9%	59%
18-29 Women	19%	18%	14%	49%
Pew 2022 Survey (earlier in the year)	-1%	-5%	-5%	10%
18-29 Men	16%	9%	18%	57%
18-29 Women	21%	26%	22%	31%
	-6%	-18%	-4%	26%

Title	The 'Chad Cck Carousel is a Myth
Author	TheAutismPill
Upvotes	109
Comments	387
Date	July 26, 2023 10:06 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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