What is your solution to the issues in dating?

meangingersnap · 2024-03-09T20:57:14+00:00

ban dating apps tbh

CraftyCooler · 2024-03-09T21:09:39+00:00

I think that we are lacking stability - be it job market, property market, fashion, trends, politics and dating. Everything is changing too fast and people are just nervous and overwhelmed. One day you rock - next day you're gone, it's not only dating - world is toxic, capitalism in its current form is toxic. I do not feel the good vibes anymore - we are slowly turning into selfish and soulless yuppies.

Logical_Resolution39 · 2024-03-09T20:52:06+00:00

People need to focus less on what they demand from others, and more on what they are offering. So much of dating is just me me me, and yes we all deserve compatibility, but if we all focused on becoming better potential mates then the dating market would be a lot better.

Also, standards. Everyone should be more realistic. Im not saying date someone you find unattractive, but if you're a guy spinning that girl who is sweet but average looking because you want someone who is super hot, or you're a girl who finds a guy attractive but he doesnt meet a height preference.... in my opinion yall are missing out on good opportunities to be happy for shallow reasons

MongoBobalossus · 2024-03-09T20:19:47+00:00

Two words; “managed expectations.”

Critical_Corner_1859 · 2024-03-10T08:40:46+00:00

Sending the surplus of men to die in war, or to work themselves to death.

Good_Result2787 · 2024-03-09T20:28:32+00:00

No individual person can propose or implement a solution to dating on a scale that is larger than themselves.

lovestocomment · 2024-03-10T16:24:30+00:00

In think a lot of the issues with dating comes down to access and idiology

1) I would ban social media apps (only use them for sfw business). Social media at this point is doing more harm than good to our society. It destroys people self image, promotes toxic looks amazing, pushes people to fake lives and lifestyle. The other issue is that it give people direct access to folks where under normal circumstances. It also prevents simping, caused the inflammation in the dating market. Men should never give their time, attention, money and respect without getting anything in return. This will reduce fix the issue of women over valuing themselves and remove access to the most valuable men. Men and women should date in and put energy into local dating pool. The should also reduce women having looks and body issues. Reduce depression and bullying. And lead to men focusing on building versus wasting time and simping.

2) I would ban dating apps. This piece of technology is much like social media apps, but worse. It destroys women. It destroys men. It erodes the social aspect of dating and dehumanizes both men and women. It also promotes hook up culture which also ruin mainly women in a multitude of ways.

3) I would ban the promotion of feminism. It promotes female supremacy, lies to women about their value to society and promotes the corporate enslavement of women. It also causes women to live lifestyles that are not productive to them mentally, emotionally and physically. And it strips away women's appreciation for men and what men do to maintain society. It also under values how women contribute to society and works against women who just want to live normal family oriented lifestyles. Also, feminism lies to women about their reproductive windows to that fucked up.

4) Make the justice system equal, and make it easier for men to use for paternity fraud and false accusers.Get rid of the female bias in the justice and family court system. Give men access to financial abortion and make abortion the law of the land. I believe family planning is important.

5) Educate women about how the birth control pill truly affects their body. A woman's hormones and hormone cycles affects how they pick their partners and form relationships. The pill also literally blunts cortisol response in their bodies. Which leads to extremely weak performance and memory outcomes under a stressful situation. It leads to women being more depressed and causes them to gain weight despite having normal or healthy diets. More education, women will be able to plan better for family and be more level headed in picking partners.

6) the pill for men needs to expedited. Men need a way to secure their seed from exploitation. And women exploiting men.

7) I would ban female centric safety nets. Or offer the same level of nets safety for men.

No-Rough-7390 · 2024-03-09T20:27:18+00:00

Men should spend far less time worrying about what women think. If they don’t like their lives, why the fuck would a woman want to join it? Create a life you want and let those in who will add to it.

Also, most women are mid (unless they are fat) without makeup. A woman who will do things for you without asking and prioritize your happiness is one you need to keep around. Stop trying to convince women to like you.

thetruthishere_ · 2024-03-10T14:36:10+00:00

Get out and about and not use apps/social media as much.

MassiveAd1026 · 2024-03-10T16:44:02+00:00

Everyone already knows the solution to dating issues.

Men need to date with intention not just looking to get laid. It also means you date one woman at a time.

Women need to date with intention that means, don't accept a date from a man, if you're not attracted to him. It also means you date one man at a time.

RecreationalPorpoise · 2024-03-09T20:20:02+00:00

Women could play a part in helping men to be more confident instead of just telling men to be confident. Or actively destroying men’s confidence.

Women could shame each other for being rude, hateful, or abusive. They could do away with the delusion that men have nothing to fear from women besides rejection.

Trazyn_of_Infinity · 2024-03-09T20:36:32+00:00

For people who are well-adjusted and actually touch grass often enough (going to concerts, bars, that sort of thing): No need for a solution. They’re probably getting into relationships.

For the people that aren’t complete schizoids but may need help because they find dating tiresome: we need a “singles wards” equivalent. How that looks without a religious context, I don’t know. Feels like it’ll turn into a sausagefest, tbh.

For people with mental disabilities: matchmaking services. Seriously.

TRTGymBro · 2024-03-09T21:00:25+00:00

lol, thinking any of these guys actually want solutions. The solutions are out there for them. None of them want to do the work.

throwaway164_3 · 2024-03-09T23:24:05+00:00

There is no solution

ComfortableJeans · 2024-03-09T22:02:57+00:00

If there were some sort of mandatory adult social gathering that every able bodied person had to go to, I'd bet the vast majority of lonely, sad people would pretty quickly find someone they'd fall in love with.

I feel as though most of the issues these days come about from the total isolation a lot of people are experiencing. A lot of people will just wallow and die by themselves unless there's a force pushing them. Any lonely person *could* just go join some lonely person group, but a lot of them won't. Some people NEED that enforcement in their lives, if only just a bit to get them going.

Of course, some people are just totally fucked. But I highly doubt all these lost people are.

But I don't see that happening. So, I think most lost people are going to stay lost.

The_Forgotten001 · 2024-03-10T04:58:49+00:00

The first step is identifying the problem.

1.The swiping apps are detrimental due to their being an overabundance of choice. When people get overwhelmed choice that's when the crazy standards and the pickiness comes in like a bat out of hell.

1a. Dating apps need to be reworked into forcing you to talk to the person who matches with you before moving on. That way her inbox isn't flooded with millions of men and he actually will get a response from her.

2.Most men now a days don't have the same level of socialization as men of the past. With the introduction of the internet the amount of men who are shut-ins or are socially stunted has only increased. You don't need a study to see that result currently. Due to this men have become more risk averse and also don't know how to flirt because of the associated risks with flirting.

Male and Female hobby gaps are widening making it even less likely that a guy would have more interactions with women, since most male preferred hobbies are dominated by men and vice versa. This causes Men to be great socializers with men but still fumble saying hello to women due to low interaction. Similar issue with female hobbies (dance class- hardly any men, etc)Even if there's a women in the hobby the likelihood of the guy just being friends only are pretty low. Also girls flirt way to subtly for most men (the double eye take sucks)

2a. The solution to this is unlikely, however you would need to create a space specifically designated for meeting the opposite sex to chat and hit it off (The problem is that it would need to be appealing to both genders(bars and clubs aren't appealing to me so I don't go). Also men need to be taught how to flirt, it's not something that comes naturally.... it's learned.(as example Marlyin monroe knows how to flirt.... WoahVicky, Badbharbie do not.

Women kind of only meet the same type of guy since most men will not approach. The guy that would approach them, is the same guy that would approach 100 different women. So they will mainly (not only) meet aggressive men. which they will interpret as a high confidence man. Due to this, that's how they form their type and their view of men. It's no coincidence (at least in cities) when you ask girls about their exes 95% of the time they were with a Drug dealer(money man). Can't go to a nice guy after dating that kind of guy.

3a. There is no solution to that. the most aggressive men take the most chances, and I can't see women saying no to the lifestyle a Drug dealer(temporarily) provides. The only solution is to join the aggressive men and just keep asking, because women rarely approach men.

An unrealistic solution would be that women suddenly start to give different types of men a chance. like try dating the introverted gamer, try the guy who only talks about mushrooms see if that's all he really is.

to be fair when women are post 30 they open up their options. Before 30 it's more what can you give me type of vibe.

Dating heavily skews in the woman's favor. When a man shows up to the date he's usually (maybe not anymore) the one who's paying for a majority of (if not all) the date. He's expected to be on point and etc. The man has expectations set on him from the start while the woman only has to show up.

What is a man getting from dating this woman beyond sex?(if he even gets any and isn't on date 300) most women don't offer to cook for dates, hell most modern women don't even cook. She's also not networking for him, she's not helping to introduce him to new people.... She expects him to take her everywhere and network for her..(yacht parties, Club promos, vacations(that the man pays for))

So that means either he's cooking or paying for all the food ordered out or the restaurants. She's not coming to his house to clean, and if they move in it's doubtful the chores would be split. It's another thing the man is expected to do.

The only thing the man is getting out of this is....sex. He's cooking, he's cleaning, he's paying all the bills.... and she... just has sex with him. Unless he wants a family, he gets more value from an escort than dating a woman who does not add to his life.

Mysterious_Leg1668 · 2024-03-09T21:35:44+00:00

Live together & Wait 5 years till marriage minimum , learn to walk in each others shoes and take yourself out of your perspective sometimes.

byebye19thAmendment · 2024-03-11T04:52:16+00:00

Men need to get a passport and go overseas.

Individual_Speech_10 · 2024-03-13T00:32:15+00:00

It would require a massive societal shift. The root cause is that people are terrible and treat people terribly. That needs to stop happening.

alebruto · 2024-03-13T05:15:18+00:00

Solution for men: Understanding that being single is better than being with a bad woman, this must be done before making the mistake of accepting a bad woman and ending up with irreversible damage such as socio-affective pension.

Solution for women: Choose a good man while you still can.

MikeArrow · 2024-03-09T21:02:21+00:00

If a dating app came along that actually worked, I think that would be the easiest solution.

There's a theoretical number of people out in the world that would 100% find me attractive and want to date me.

Imagine an app comprised solely of those people and no one else. Every swipe is a potential date.

Sounds like magic, right?

I think we have the technology.

Love-Is-Selfish · 2024-03-09T22:46:19+00:00

People need to more seriously pursue what’s best for themselves, including in dating.

odd_cloud · 2024-03-10T01:27:46+00:00

Ok, couple of realistic ideas:

1) Have some kind of classes for men on dating and courting. I think, many young guys just don’t have an idea of what to do if they like a woman. One of dating researchers said that we had a wrong understanding of young men. We thought they would constantly approach or even harass women. It isn’t true, guys do nothing if they aren’t motivated and don’t know what to do.

2) Change the way we raise boys. A post on this sub specified attractive male qualities as confidence, low inhibition, extroversion, social intuition, and a couple of other characteristics. We need to raise boys in a way which would develop those qualities. Currently, the system of raising boys aims to generate good accountants, not attractive men.

3) Standardize dating. Currently, there are little norms, so it is confusing for many people. Men don’t know if they’ll make the woman uncomfortable by doing something, women are uncertain why guys do (don’t) approach them. If we had a blueprint, things would be easier.

More of a hypothetical solution: Develop a drug that would remove libido and attraction for unsuccessful men.

mrs_seng · 2024-03-09T20:21:25+00:00

I say let the market regulate itself. It's ok to be imperfect since life and humans are imperfect.

I am a big fan of "get over yourself/your ego", "sucks to be you", "you made your bed, now sleep in it" and "the dildo of consequences often comes unlubed". As heartless as it sounds, the "problem" (i see no problem that there are imperfections in an imperfect world, it's actually expected) consists in individual problems that vary from individual to individual. It's up to the individuals to solve their problems. Other than state programs for rehabilitation/help which are for everyone regardless if they are dating/in a relationship or not and spreading awareness, there's nothing we can really do.

Please note that my comment is gender neutral.

iloveyouall00 · 2024-03-09T22:54:28+00:00

Nuclear war.

KentuckyCriedFlickin · 2024-03-10T00:16:27+00:00

We need to teach people what society wants from the either gender in a modern and healthy way, it seems since the 2000s and 2010s, all that we had about gender norms is becoming lost (if it isn't already). I think social media hurt dating more than dating apps alone.

LoveScoutCEO · 2024-03-09T23:06:00+00:00

International dating works great for many guys. Don't trust me.Read the academic research. You can follow the links in that article to academic articles, dissertations and books by NYU and University of California Press.

The fact more guys don't understand the opportunity is bizarre.

JR-5422 · 2024-03-09T20:20:48+00:00

We create an AI-powered algorithm that pairs adults with one another. And whoever you are paired with, you have to marry them. The modern world version of arranged marriages. Problem solved!

SupposedlySapiens · 2024-03-09T20:25:59+00:00

Destroy Western civilization

GlobeUnited · 2024-03-09T21:16:08+00:00

Solutions have to operate at both the individual level and the cultural/societal level.

At the individual level, my advice to both sexes would be to be honest with yourselves about whether you are marriage-minded from those who DGAF about marriage, kids, family, etc. and "just wanna have (short-term) fun". IMHO, 80% of both sexes would be happier in a stable marriage for life, 20% wouldn't be. If you're in the 80%, separate yourselves from the 20%, nothing good can come from crossing that line in either direction, but you'll quickly discover that the possibilities for winning in the "stable marriage for life" game are infinitely better for you than they are when you mixing with the 20%.

That said, at the cultural/societal level, if we want to improve the dating scence, there needs to be more support for marriage, family, etc. Taxes, benefits, education, etc., it all needs to line up such that you do way better forming and keeping a family together than staying single/getting divorced. Maybe as a society, we don't care, in which case, fine. But if we do, then we should do that. If it was far easier to become a winner in life via marriage, then going back to the above, far more of that 80% would be looking for each other rather than mixing it up with the 20% who doesn't want that, and constantly paying the price for having done so.

campskills21 · 2024-03-09T22:26:41+00:00

Lack of effort thinking will produce solid results. You have to put in effort to look appealing.

For the girl successful in dating, they put in a lot more effort to their beauty and being appealing than most guys. If a girl works to be attractive and takes good pics, all guys want her. Guys don’t put in the effort to portray a lifestyle or work on their body.

I’m just hard pressed to believe that you take any average guy, get him in the gym 4 times a week, normal bmi, has fun on weekends, goes on couple vacations a year. Then captures pictures of it on instagram, uses those pictures for apps or shares his instagram in use with day game and dating apps, that he won’t have a bunch of dating options.

Girls that are never doing anything fun, never work out, high bmi, have some regular pictures. They are NOT getting good dates, they might get casual sex, that’s about it.

After my divorce I went on dating apps with 6 whatever pics, only get mid girls out at best. Spent the next year working out, getting better haircut and beard, going on some vacations to make a nice instagram. Now I can go out with the hottest girls on the apps, and last year have a girl way out of my league lookswise living with me the past year.

Girls are trying harder than guys to look appealing online. Your online persona, your LinkedIn profile, that matters a lot to quality cute girls with all the options.

Alfred-Adler · 2024-03-10T04:18:12+00:00

There's no solution. The problem is systematic; most everyone starts off as "the battle of the sexes", trying to put blame and burden on the other parties, with no collaboration.

A good principle would be to start with dialectic and people work together to find commonalities and solutions and ways to negotiate differences.

El_Tigrex · 2024-03-09T20:34:30+00:00

Cut off women from all the extra economic support they get. Then it will no longer be a moral issue.

Cnb30 · 2024-03-09T22:49:50+00:00

In the US, Legalizing and destigmatizing sex work.

Sabrepill · 2024-03-09T23:57:23+00:00

The problem is self correcting but can take decades or centuries. When times are tough, like mating is for most men now, only those men who adapt will pass on their genes.

Women have a much easier time and even many of them are ending up childless. They will have few or no descendents either.

Future humans will descend from people who adapted to the situation. Either they made sacrifices, settled, or changed other variables which allowed for success. Such as becoming a high value male or finding a woman from a non westernized country.

Ice ages don’t last forever, and there are warming periods as well. Usually after horrible events such as wars and atrocities there are baby booms.

Extreme Feminism may eventually die out because it spirals reproductive rates towards zero. Some future society may have a more balanced power disparity between genders, unlike the gynocentric societies of the modern west.

angelbaby933 · 2024-03-09T20:57:36+00:00

Every time I see a post like this I’m disappointed but not surprised by how many men here basically want to live in Gilead.

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xxTheMagicBulleT · 2024-03-10T00:30:32+00:00

Simple fact if somone says solutions your a isum or oppressing someone.

So for many all you can do is choose not to play. If you dont like the options. Or the rules or laws are stacked against you.

And people that try give solutions gets downvoted to oblivion.

How dare people uphold a type of standards of what you demanding of a other person. But cant even come close to uphold it in any way them selfs.

Many things are not at all to have high standards. But if you demanding a type of standards of people and you dont live by them your self your a joke and a massive hypocrite and people don't take you seriously at all.

And there a lot of hypocrites out there. And if you push back at all. Or come with solutions. Your always treated like the scum of the earth. Why people stop doing it. And just choose to not play. Or abuse the game with how the rules are set up.

Cause having a discussion about it often seems so pointless with strawmen arguments being tossed at you all the time.

Legitimate_Type_1324 · 2024-03-10T02:34:33+00:00

Understand the market and adapt.

Either step up to be the man women want in your area, or emigrate to other markets where you are good enough.

In any case, it always pays to try to be the best person you can be.

Shadowcat1606 · 2024-03-10T03:07:56+00:00

Personally, my 'solution' was to just give up on that part of life.

CoatAffectionate703 · 2024-03-10T05:29:26+00:00

Define solution. Which is to say, it depends on what your actual goals are. Some may be achievable, some may not as much.

If you seek to fix the dating world or to find some sort of mantra or dogma that you can preach to yourself and preach it forward, hoping to convert people, then no. There is no solution. All these guys in the comments preaching to others on how people should behave and how things should be...that's the weak raving, and it's how you get a soviet communist u(dys)topia. And guess what, the raving weak...they aren't gonna get to be the dictators who run that pseudo-utopia either, they'll be the peons being trampled under the KGB's boots. Stalin didn't get to power by ranting, he got it because he was a man of action, he kept labouring to make things happen and used his wits to drive people and events to propel himself into being installed as the big Papa Joseph.

The best you can do is focus on yourself and what you want to attain in reference to yourself and what you can do to accomplish that.

In that regard, my solution is simple, in notion. Now that the rules of the game are fairly known and obvious, it's upto you to choose how to play it and what you want to gain from it. First you get yourself into a position where your value is desirable which unavoidably consolidates your own power so in itself it is a sensible result to target, regardless. Afterwards, potential suitors will flock to you on their own volition anyway. From here you can decide on whether you wish to play around or settle.

As for handling with infidelity, divorce laws et al I'd advise against ever disclosing the extent of your finances, always downplay it, and keep the majority of it locked under a trust fund as well as any substantive assets you procure do so under the trust fund (it is private, its owners are sealed from public purview, and if you declare bankrupt neither it nor its owned assets can be touched). Moreover establish house rules that you have unfettered access to your spouse's phone, any who refuse won't be your girlfriend, much less your spouse. And since we know people can't be trusted, make sure to drop in it the appropriate surveillance kit that'd allow you to remotely and discreetly monitor all of it and its apps all the same. We all know how cheaters act.

ExternalBarracuda292 · 2024-03-10T07:17:13+00:00

To me, I would say that if there is an issue with modern dating, it is not a lack of romantic opportunities, but a lack of success at capitalizing on those opportunities. There's a number of reasons why this is the case.

One of the biggest issues lies with education. Most people get their ideas about relationships from either hollywood or porn, and neither of those provides an even remotely realistic picture of how relationships work. An extremely persistent misconception is that you're a total loser if you haven't been in a relationship by 21, 25, or some other very young age. The reality is that almost no one is getting into relationships before their 20s anymore, and a full 35% of people have never dated before age 25. So if this describes you, relax! There's nothing wrong with you at all, it's just that most people are not seriously looking to date before they achieve some degree of financial security. Don't become jaded and cynical about dating because that will severely hamper your changes of being successful once you do reach the point where you have more opportunities.

Similarly, another misconception that a lot of people believe is that when you meet the right person, you'll know instantly and everything will be totally effortless. This is also an invention of hollywood and has absolutely no basis in reality. Even the most well-matched relationship still takes constant effort from both parties to keep the relationship healthy, and it's very common for it to take weeks or even months for the bond between two people to grow strong enough that they feel very confident about the relationship. The belief in this kind of "love at first sight" phenomenon causes people to ignore or give up on many opportunities that might end up working out.

Beyond misconceptions about dating, there are also economic issues that make dating tough. Extreme levels of wealth inequality have left most people working very long hours at stressful jobs for very little pay. Work-related stress and money issues can put severe strain on relationships that might otherwise be successful, and having few opportunities for bonding experiences like vacations or outings deprives the relationship of the glue that helps it endure through difficult times. It gets even worse when children are involved, with both parents working long hours and having to take care of children there's virtually no time left to keep the relationship strong. These sorts of issues can be addressed through economic policy and other initiatives like tax breaks or free daycare for families with children, to try to relieve some of the economic burden.

Then there's also marriage laws, which are also hopelessly out of date. For example, where I live, when a couple gets married they instantly gain joint ownership of the home in which they live, even if it was wholly owned by one partner prior to marriage. I own a 1.2 million dollar home (it's not even anything fancy, that's just how housing prices are here), which means that if I got married, my partner could divorce me the same day and I'd have to pay them $600k. Obviously, this is a complete non-starter, so I will never be willing to get married (even a pre-nup cannot override this rule). Thankfully, you can have a common-law relationship which has all of the same benefits as marriage but has no asset splitting whatsoever upon separation, which is why virtually none of the couples I know are married, but this is still stupid. Virtually all laws concerning marriage and divorce were written during the time where people got married at 18 and it was typical for the woman to stay home and take care of the children while the man worked, but this situation is now extremely uncommon, as in almost all families both partners work and couples are getting married later, by which time they already have careers and more independent financial assets. Making the marriage rules more closely resemble those for common-law couples would make more people willing to get married again, and restore some of the romance that that notion brings.

Substantial_Video560 · 2024-03-10T10:53:05+00:00

I think A.I. sexbots and immersive VR porn will be the longterm solution however such tech is in it's infancy.

obviousredflag · 2024-03-10T12:36:14+00:00

The Lobster solved it pretty neatly.

Top_Fuel_927 · 2024-03-10T14:20:14+00:00

Stop obsessing over sex and physical attraction. I just solved the dating crisis!

AFuzzyMuffin · 2024-03-10T14:33:34+00:00

It’s very simple. Men need to make sure young boys are getting fit at young age. Men need to be practicing safe sex and only having children with women fit to be good wife’s and mothers. Rest self corrects over time

MarauderSlayer44 · 2024-03-10T16:57:15+00:00

Stop trying, be a misanthrope and just be hedonistic until it kills me.

Mossimo5 · 2024-03-10T18:52:39+00:00

Nothing will change unless social media stops existing or we wait long enough for the nano (and now pico) plastics in our blood essentially destroy male embryos (the fact that no one is taking this seriously is staggering)

MBTHVSK · 2024-03-11T06:22:34+00:00

Masturbation parties with low lighting and strictly enforced rules, and snacks.

apresonly · 2024-03-13T21:14:53+00:00

divest from patriarchy

good women and good men join together against predatory and exploitative men and women

we (the good ones) can all agree on norms that are acceptable and unacceptable, its really not that hard

Forward_Task_198 · 2024-03-18T12:02:31+00:00

Ban social media. Including dating apps. That way people will become normal in the head again and actually go out to meet other people.

shonenhikada · 2024-03-10T06:28:37+00:00

Ban hookup/dating apps
Ban social media
Remove ofs
Bring back slut shamming and shamming single moms
Promote traditional values
Give tax benefits and perks to people who have stable, families.
Promote monogamy

FutureBannedAccount2 · 2024-03-09T20:36:25+00:00

As I described in my previous post:

More respect, Less hubris

I think this is something Americans in particular have an issue with because there’s this idea that everything you ever do has to progress your towards your goals in some way.

I started dating in Europe and for those 4 years I NEVER felt exhausted with dating. Reason why I because unlike Americans, Europeans know how to take it easy sometimes. Most of them are very humble, even the French surprisingly. Meanwhile come to America and despite that everyone denies it, dating is very transactional.

I said this in a comment on that post that people will complain about dating but then change absolutely nothing to make it better. Most Americans I’ve noticed are go along to get along in many aspects of life and are closed minded. I’m very glad I was able to travel and see other cultures but I think unless Americans do that en masse, nothing is gonna change

SecondEldenLord · 2024-03-09T23:38:48+00:00

The downfall started with social media and dating apps. It ruined the chances for average and subaverage men to find any sort of woman and it ruined womens perception of what a real relationship is. Why would women ever settle for an average man when they can meet a rich Chad 200 miles away and why would a rich Chad ever settle when they can have a different woman every week. Back in the day you had to meet someone through social circles, class mates, work and so on. Options were not so abundant for women and if they ever sleep with a rich Chad, then their perception of what they actually deserve gets screwed. They can never, and I repeat, never settle for less than that, so average men are screwed.

MisterFunnyShoes · 2024-03-09T22:09:47+00:00

There is no “solution”. There is only individual adaptation. For men, the best bet is TRP.

NotReallyTired_ · 2024-03-10T03:23:15+00:00

Ban dating apps and create laws that are a detriment to social media usage, the goal is to force people and communities to meet in-person instead of going online.

Promote marriages and relationships as viable solutions for financial and social mobility again.

Teach young people the meaning of compromise and reason. As a society we are required to make sacrifices and compromises for the things we want and need. Very rarely will you ever get EXACTLY what you want, but there is such a thing is good enough. Not to mention to teach young people that standards should be reasonable and realistic, if you cannot apply to your standards to your actions/behaviors don't place it onto other people.

Collectively reward behaviors that are the good for the health of our society, and punish bad behaviors. We're social creatures who observes and adopt to behaviors that are rewarded, we don't do things for the sake of it.

We need more 3rd places that's accessible and cheap to attended. Bars and clubs aren't cutting it. We need more spaces where we see similar faces and can regularly go to, the longer someone knows another the higher the chance they'll either fuck and/or date.

These solutions are self-correcting and will require decades to remedy, I think things are going to get worse for a while before it gets better.

illusoryfindings · 2024-03-09T21:52:01+00:00

As a young man I really felt like the only solution was to step up my game. Big society-wide solutions were not something I had any means of influencing. And I thought realistically, if I wanted relatively easy access to love, sex, and intimacy, I had to become someone who's not just another invisible average man.

Ayaka_Simp_ · 2024-03-09T23:29:05+00:00

Nothing. Do what's best for me and fuck everyone else.

Purple_Kangaroo8549 · 2024-03-10T07:20:54+00:00

Restoration of the values and policies pre 60s.

neemptabhag · 2024-03-09T20:27:47+00:00

It's very simple, and it involves women actually taking an interest in uplifting men's education and careers. Without this, anything else is just lip service.

Silver_Past2313 · 2024-03-09T21:12:25+00:00

State sponsored dating app with getting people together as it's goal instead of profit.

State sponsored boy scouts and girl scouts. Boy scouts gets the men fit, disciplined, and skilled. Girl scouts gets the women skills related to family and also fit. Both groups have separate activities most of the time but regularly meetup for mixed activities.

Both of these would be hugely beneficial and really not cost that much.

RedditIsCensorship2 · 2024-03-10T00:58:06+00:00

Solution is simple. Modern day women don't offer anything but some holes to fuck. So, men should just limit their dating life to fucking. No commitment, no cohabitation and no problems. Easy peasy. Problems solved. Bonus points if you "date" more than one woman at a time, because then you also have eliminated the problem of dry spells.

Get out your popcorn and enjoy the decline. Women are getting exactly what they have been asking for. And I think it's hilarious.

Dertross · 2024-03-10T00:36:09+00:00

"realistic" "solutions" to "dating issues":
Removal of no-fault divorce.

Ban abortion.

Removal of all forms of welfare.

Ultimately there are no realistic solutions because women have the benefit of externalizing the costs of reproductive misbehavior while reaping the private benefits.

It's like expecting corporate America to sign away the ability retain private profit and get bailed out by the government when the economy fails.

Something like that isn't going to happen unless society totally collapses and the rules are re-written from the ground up.

We_Are_From_Stars · 2024-03-09T20:53:41+00:00

The restriction on abortion rights in the United States will do a good job in returning the sexual marketplace back in the favor of committed relationships, as well as a decrease in non-marital fertility over the long-term. Hopefully the Republican Party can increasingly shift towards getting rid of unilateral and No-Fault Divorce in order to repair the damage done to the mating market.

Increasing national labor productivity and securing the welfare regime would also do well to increase societal optimism and childhood socio-emotional functioning.

StupidThrowaway3783 · 2024-03-09T20:26:32+00:00

Force everybody to be a lot more social

hari_hbp · 2024-03-10T04:04:15+00:00

Men should stop giving attention to women who don't want it.

TheDerInDisorder · 2024-03-10T11:31:34+00:00

Global thermonuclear war; we just need a real problem to get our minds off it.

Safinated · 2024-03-10T15:22:58+00:00

Providing alternatives to the losers, aka VR and robots

wtknight · 2024-03-10T15:31:09+00:00

No solution. Men and women are just different. If they can't adapt, then they don't successfully date.

I am for allowing a heavily regulated prostitution industry, though. People should have the freedom to do what they want with their bodies.

MasterTeacher123 · 2024-03-10T15:31:20+00:00

My solution is your dating “issues” are your personal problem

rma5690 · 2024-03-10T15:45:51+00:00

Some problems don't have solutions. It is what it is.

EmbarrassedClient283 · 2024-03-10T15:56:39+00:00

There are no realistic solutions to the dating market imbalance

hearyoume14 · 2024-03-10T18:26:48+00:00

There isn’t one at this point. It’d require people to become emotionally mature and resolve their insecure attachment. You can only control yourself so I would have to be based on individuals.

Proudvow · 2024-03-09T21:01:29+00:00

There's no plausible solution.

Theoretically if everyone accepted the red pill and taught it to their kids during their formative teen years that'd help alleviate much of the loneliness epidemic for the next generation of men, but that's not going to happen.

sillylittledream · 2024-03-09T22:49:49+00:00

Sub 5 male euthanasia.

BackToTheMoon_ · 2024-03-09T23:21:02+00:00

Nothing will change so long as women are how they are

They control the dating market completely

Barely-moral · 2024-03-09T22:10:17+00:00

This is the more realistic solution. And it still unrealistic.

Massive convertion to islam from every man that is not getting what they want from the culture they find themselves in.

Islam is going to outbreed all other cultures anyways, might as well speed up the process.

Fabulous_HonestTea · 2024-03-10T10:55:47+00:00

I rarely see anyone suggest a realistic solution

Dating works the way in which women decide it’s going to work. They’re happy with the current arrangement. There’s no solution because there is no problem.

Unless you’re an average man, then there’s a gigantic problem, but no one cares about you and never will.

Title	What is your solution to the issues in dating?
Author	FormerBabyPerson
Upvotes	35
Comments	517
Date	March 9, 2024 8:08 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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