Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.

ComfortableJeans · 2023-11-11T08:47:13+00:00

It's more of a human issue than a gendered one. You are right. Women generally don't give a shit.

But men who aren't lonely also don't care about male loneliness. Even men who are lonely only really care about their loneliness. Men also don't really care about women's issues either. I imagine the vast majority of women only care about women's issues as far as it affects them, also.

Humans are selfish, self-absorbed, and only out for themselves, generally.

You're saying, "I'm in pain, and women don't care." And that is technically true. They don't care. But it would be more accurate to say, "I'm in pain, and NOBODY cares."

The world is absolutely brutal, and you'll spend the vast majority of it, maybe even the entirety of it, alone. Sometimes in pain, but almost always alone.

If you're lucky enough to find someone you believe truly cares for you and what you're going through, beyond how it effects them, you should do your best to hold onto that person, because they're incredibly rare.

Crafty_Letter_1719 · 2023-11-11T14:10:10+00:00

What you are saying isn’t generally untrue. Most girls do have zero empathy for guys and male loneliness.

However a lack of empathy isn’t exclusive to woman. It’s simply a human thing.

The reason we live in such a cruel, uneven and poverty stricken world is because human beings by their nature are competitive and selfish and really don’t care about human suffering beyond those closes to them.

Why would a random woman with her own struggles and desires care about a random guy who can’t get laid as often as he would like? He is simply invisible to her.

However is this really that different to all the guys complaining about being sexless and lonely being completely self absorbed and oblivious to all the other suffering going on in the world? Are these guys volunteering in soup kitchens and hospitals and generally trying to improve the lot of the less fortunate? Probably not.

While it’s completely understandable to feel hard done by with your lot in life people( and in this instance Men) shouldn’t be disingenuous about how they would act if the tables where turned. If your average guy suddenly found himself drowning in dating options( like your average woman) he too would only pursue the woman most attractive to him and he wouldn’t spend a moment feeling sorry for those that didn’t meet his standards.

kendrac83 · 2023-11-11T17:04:40+00:00

IME, most women generally do not even extend friendliness to other women who they should feel more comfortable with, so why would they extend friendliness to a man who may have bad intentions?

So many men say they are lonely but in reality, they just want sexual experiences. There are truly some creeps out there... gamma men who've had chances with pretty women for LTR but wanted to attempt a harem instead. Now they are alone at 45, 50+ years old because of their own bad choices and behavior.

I do not feel sympathy for such men. I feel more sympathy for those that want LTRs/marriage/families and don't know where to start.

wtknight · 2023-11-11T15:55:06+00:00

Women are empathetic. It's just that there is not a lot they can do because they are not attracted to the men who are complaining.

Aromatic_Ad5473 · 2023-11-11T12:19:28+00:00

Most people don’t care about most people regardless of gender. When speaking specifically about gender, a lot of men expect empathy from women when they aren’t empathetic toward women.

The lack of empathy didn’t come from nowhere, it’s largely in response to the lack of empathy a lot women have experienced from a lot of men.

Before you say “society cares more about women”, I’m not talking about society as a whole.

I’ve seen posts women have made about their rapes and men in the comments are disgusting. Women make posts about something completely unrelated to their looks but men pop up in the comments to talk about their bodies.

Those interactions paint a pretty negative picture of men and while we know it’s not all men, there aren’t men showing up in the comments trying to stop the men who do say shit like that.

When I’ve seen women in this sub be empathetic toward men, they’re sometimes met with hostility because some men don’t think they’re being genuine. There’s a post on menrights right now speaking about this exact thing.

Or some men think that empathy is an invitation to sex instead of being just empathy. Just like men’s interactions with women colour their perspective, the same is true for women.

VoltairesBarista · 2023-11-11T08:24:20+00:00

Nobody cares about other peoples loneliness, regardless of gender

MidoriEgg · 2023-11-11T14:24:13+00:00

I think there’s a few reasons for this, one of them being, a lot of women really don’t know about the scale of male loneliness;

Most normie women my age (20’s)wouldn’t even know what an incel was, most of them assume men get a similar number of matches on sites, they aren’t spending there time looking at dating, relationships and marriage statistics. The men they see day to day or are mutual friends with are usually in relationships/have friends have social connections because they’re already friends with a woman. If a man is struggling dating it’s kind of stigmatised to openly talk about that.
I think the other side of it, is that it’s really hard to know what the soloution for it is. I work with a lot of extremely isolated people, and there are services like support workers to take them out and community groups, but a lot of these online lonely men’s issue is specifically around dating, and those measures I just mentioned would probably seem patronising to them. I don’t really know the soloution to the dating issues a lot of men face, so there’s not a lot productive I can say about it. There’s no real good dating advice I could give online.
And three, a lot of men expressing these dating issues also seem to explicitly blame women and can sometimes be pretty hateful, not all of them, but this obviously gets women defensive and limits the empathy you’re going to get. Same with women’s issues.

Doumekitsu · 2023-11-11T14:50:41+00:00

Do men take care of the fact that they bad mouth women on social media about female loneliness? No, because otherwise, we wouldn’t see these comments all over the internet: “You’re gonna die alone”, “Oooh, I’m waiting to hear that you got 100 cats”

Do men give a shit about other men’s loneliness? I don’t think so. They would bully tf outta a guy who hasn’t been getting dates or is a bit awkward or serially getting cheated on.

Do men treat a woman respectfully when she is focusing solely on her career/doing the things that she enjoys? No because then we wouldn’t hear so much stories about men trying to shut women down by various means (if they are doing what they like) and even sexually abusing them at work (if they are career focused).

Do men treat other men respectfully when it comes to their interests? No. They would brag about how their own interests are different and superior.

I’m not anti-men nor am I saying everyone does these things to people, but what I’m trying to say is, the world isn’t fair. Men and women can be each other’s enemies, and enemies to their own kind. It’s been like this since like forever. People are people and people don’t care. People lack the understanding of other’s needs and they lack empathy, and that’s how it is.

This isn’t a “men problem” or a “women problem” kinda thing. Also, this is not to say that the world is so depressing or kind and respectful people don’t exist. What I’m trying to say is, people don’t care regardless of gender and that’s how it is.

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2023-11-11T13:48:50+00:00

Suppose a girl has an Instagram account: it’s bound to be flooded by dms and requests

First of all, no.

At least for me, because I spend time in these spaces, I do have an understanding of how difficult it is for men to find sexual and/or romantic opportunities from the opposite sex. You have my sympathy. But here’s the question that always follows:

What do you want me to do about it? Should I divorce my husband to go be your girlfriend? Should we seize the means of reproduction to redistribute among the masses? 🛠️

This problem you’re describing is one that’s largely driven by biological factors. Social institutions can modify our biological imperatives to a certain extent, but those are complex systems that are neither built nor torn down in a day.

Difficult-Ad-9922 · 2023-11-11T14:55:07+00:00

Men need to be more honest with themselves about male loneliness, maybe then they could get a bit of sympathy. The only problem ever mentioned is that they don’t get matches on tinder. Yeah, on a platform supersaturated with men that is working against you unless you drop tons of money. They never mention men under preforming in schools and higher education. Never hygienic issues. Never mental health. Never rampant capitalism. Never social isolation. Never Covid. If only those bitchy women would start liking their profile then all their problems would be solved, and the 60% of single men would drop down to 0! Because all the single men in that statistic are average looking, nice, educated, hygienic, not autistic fellas with hobbies who have active social lives + don’t depend on dating apps as their only form of communication with women. Riiiggghhhtttt.

And why should women care about things that YOU don’t care about. Maybe when men start caring about the actual and real problems that cause male loneliness, they can help themselves instead of whining that women aren’t doing it for them. Everyone’s had to fight historically. Women, minorities, gays, trans people and they received probably as much sympathy from men that men are getting now. That’s because men are hypocritical. Every one is. Most men are just angry they can’t “join in” on a behaviour women and others exhibit, they don’t actually think it’s bad, they’re just jealous they don’t have the opportunity to do it. If it doesn’t benefit them, they don’t like it. Wow that’s kinda what they say to women all the time. An example: Women love going for violent chads but say they want a nice guy, then complain when he beats them! Well studies have shown men prefer women with BPD, which can make you more violent and promiscuous, so as much as men say they want a nice, sweet girl….they kinda don’t. They kinda want a “crazy slut”.

Even they got matches, only 44% of relationships start on dating apps. But god forbid you tell them to maybe get off dating apps and focus on meeting people the remaining 56% of ways and all hell breaks loose. HoW iS ThAT faIR?? A wOMan CaN JUst Go ON tiNDer AnD gET DiCk!! WoMeN hAVe It SoooOOooo EaSY!!!

Antisocialite99 · 2023-11-11T14:21:36+00:00

Most people have a hard time having empathy for any experience they themselves havent directly lived through.

NakedStreets · 2023-11-11T09:12:01+00:00

blame also to men instead of showing a little kindness or empathy.

Show HOW?

If this post is about the thoughts in women’s heads- why?

If this post is about the ACTIONS you want to see women take, SAY WHAT THEY ARE.

leosandlattes · 2023-11-11T08:44:08+00:00

The reason why women are hesitant to give empathy isn’t because of the actual problem at hand; understanding it is perfectly fine and most women do. It’s because many men end up hateful and vitriolic and blame women for the way mate selection works.

Women aren’t at fault for having options; we as a group didn’t create that dynamic. The men who act like we did and treat us with disdain are genuinely mean people aren’t going to inspire women to stick around to hear what he has to say.

But the ones who are willing to have a conversation can and often do open up women’s perspectives. I can think of lots of men in this sub who I’ve had entirely pleasant conversations with, and I learned something from them. I can also think of some men who always have something mean and snarky to say regardless of whether women responded with empathy or responded seriously to a discussion.

Like I can guarantee that at some point, one of the usual suspects will come by to reply something unnecessarily mean and rude. And that kind of thing does eventually wear down the women who try to empathize.

Now to be fair, it’s not like all women are empathetic either. It’s an impossible ask to get everyone to care, unfortunately, and that’s true of almost any social issue.

I also think you should consider whether it’s empathy you’re really looking for, or change. Because most reasonable women will understand that dating is easier for women on average, but personally, I don’t think this will change anyone’s mind on who they’re ultimately attracted to. Dating is hard for men, and I feel for that. I just don’t know what women can offer other than compassion that will make any part of this easier for you.

penndelnj · 2023-11-11T11:18:59+00:00

The only empathy that matters for guys is pussy wrapped around their cocks. That’s why. Anything else is discounted as worthless.

MateriallyAttatched · 2023-11-11T22:41:00+00:00

I'm sure you care so much about all the lonely, overweight, and unattractive women that men ignore.

Femcelphobic · 2023-11-11T14:09:59+00:00

Why is the topic of male loneliness always centred around relationships, sex and women? Because ‘male loneliness’ is just a way for inadequate males to guilt trip women into giving them pussy, this is the real cure for ‘male loneliness.’ Everyone knows this deep down which is why no one takes it seriously. Why should society bend over backwards if you can’t get a date? What do you want them to do? Force a woman to be your gf?

iassureyouimreal · 2023-11-11T14:15:55+00:00

Why should they?

obviousredflag · 2023-11-11T11:29:52+00:00

Maybe don't use online dating as your sole means of finding a romantic partner, while at the same time having an absymal ability to craft an attractive profile. There is empathy for your situation or that of other men. Empathy means ability to understand other's emotions. Loneliness is a common experience and is easily understood, even if it hasn't been felt by oneself. What you want is more than empathy. You want charity. You want to bathe in your misery and expect someone to rescue you, for social justice reasons.

Why do you suffer from intense loneliness? Why is nobody close to you and sees a great relationship partner in you?

Glass_Bucket · 2023-11-11T14:33:56+00:00

What’s worse though?

Being a man and being frustrated that you can’t get your dick wet or being a woman and being worried that men might kill or SA you?

knowledgeovernoise · 2023-11-11T16:51:32+00:00

Why should they care.

People have their own shit to deal with.

AceOfSpadesGymBro2 · 2023-11-11T17:33:00+00:00

What great, inhuman efforts are men actually putting into dating? They installed an app and swiped a few hundred times? Ouch! Their thumbs are tired? Sooooo much effort!!! The horror! The horror!

Stop asking women to take responsibility for your loneliness and refusal to socialize and be a normal human being. It's your responsibility to learn how to socialize and be a person women want to be around.

givemeausernameplzz · 2023-11-11T12:34:53+00:00

Here’s my reasons why:

1: There are just no easy answers. And there are plenty of empathic men and women out there, who would love to help if there was a way to.

2: In our attention driven culture the toxic stuff rises to the surface, and those voices are the loudest, on both sides of the conversation.

3: Unfortunately loneliness can make men bitter and resentful. And occasionally dangerous to women. You’ve tried not to generalise in your post, but you have anyway. People can’t help but generalise incels

Frdxhds · 2023-11-11T08:39:56+00:00

People generally don't have empathy with ugly people, men or women.

Mauf066 · 2023-11-11T17:58:07+00:00

OP is 100% right, but I think trying to explain this to women is pointless. At best they simply couldn't care less, at worst they'll try to assign all sorts of negative traits to you. The harsh truth is that pretty much all women consider you a subhuman if you aren't romantically successful, their filters are designed specifically so you won't get through. Don't ever expect any empathy from women, because you won't get it.

NYY15TM · 2023-11-11T20:06:29+00:00

I don't when empathy came to be a synonym for sympathy, but it did

DeepHouseDJ007 · 2023-11-11T20:52:07+00:00

Dude no offense but I get the feeling you don’t know a lot of women personally. Quite a few women I dated who show me their instagram DMs and yes, attractive women get a lot of them but for the most part those guys are all losers and creeps, quality guys don’t message random chicks. And I can also tell you that most women don’t respect those guys and think it’s pathetic how thirsty most of these dudes are. The girls who showed me their DMs were literally making fun of the guys messaging them and calling them pathetic for being so thirsty and because most 99% of them were low value AF.

Nellylocheadbean · 2023-11-11T13:40:40+00:00

Women know men only care about sex so that’s why women lack empathy.

I’d say women have empathy for some men.

Gitsumrestmf · 2023-11-11T07:59:07+00:00

As a guy who was introverted and lonely for a long period of my life... I don't really want sympathy. Never did. It was kinda my own doing, for one. For another, I don't need charity. Wouldn't accept relationship out of pity even if I was completely hopeless and bound to die alone.

But tbh, I don't think any man out there is completely hopeless. I think guys either 1) don't try at all, 2) have their standards way too high, or 3) are way too desperate.

LoopyPro · 2023-11-11T10:36:33+00:00

Women think that men are not in realationships because they don't want to.

And if he gets a match once in a blue moon, he'll sometimes turn a blind eye to red flags if any, cause its all he got

I remember that time when I had a conversation about an ex (who was frankly there because I had few options at the time) with my buddy's gf. She asked me why I didn't choose someone better, as if kind/sweet girls were throwing themselves in front of me everywhere I went. Completely tone deaf and out of touch with reality.

men aren't supposed to have any feelings; so put on smile and repeat cause if you don't then also its your fault as you didn't try; also don't be bitter in the process too cause we'll sense it from far away and eeewwww misogynist.

Yup. I expressed my disappointment once while talking about it with my buddy. No hate, just venting a bit. His gf (same one) overheard our conversation. Boom, instant misogynist label for me.

TenaciousVillain · 2023-11-11T13:29:01+00:00

What will women’s empathy do for you? Spread their legs, put a virgin in your lap, cure your inner problems? What do people get for the emotional labor they expend? There are 100s of guys with this gripe. So women are now obligated to stop and what? Give you a memorial because you can’t seem to consummate a relationship with a woman?

The end goal here isn’t empathy. I mean, I’m not surprised by single guys demanding the emotional labor of women. We all loved when mom made us the center of her existence at the expense of her sanity. Entitlement is an insidious virus. It doesn’t stop there though. The idea that all you need is a little empathy is a crusty lie. You feel owed a woman, that’s what this is about. Owed as in, “submit yourself to me.” And not just any woman - one you deem “wholesome and pure” (even when you’re not)- no matter who you are or what you do in life, you feel owed. And you blame your inability to attain this “angelic” woman on the world around you, specifically all women and the men who enjoy them.

You demand their emotional labor for what you’re incapable of achieving. You demand it as if they don’t have their own life struggles.

Yikes.

Dionysis_x · 2023-11-11T09:06:07+00:00

There are ways other than sex and relationships to address loneliness.

CompetitiveTennis112 · 2023-11-11T15:13:21+00:00

I don't have empathy for this kind of thing because i don't understand the issue

I cannot relate to thinking my life is horrible because I can't get pussy. or can't garner romantic attention.

not because I can't relate to the issue but more like I don't understand why this makes life horrible enough that you're calling for 50% of the population to understand your woes, who also happens to be the 50% causing your woes

is male loneliness purely romantic/sexual? we need a new word for this because "I can't get gf 😞😭" should not be loneliness 💀

lostacoshermanos · 2023-11-11T16:25:18+00:00

It’s not fair to put that on women. As men we sure as hell don’t care that the wnba isn’t as successful as the nba.

januaryphilosopher · 2023-11-11T10:28:22+00:00

I've seen way too many women act as personal therapists for men who feel lonely to think that's accurate. The other way around basically never happens. (Also, I don't really know anyone who gets Instagram messages that aren't either friends or spam. Most people have their accounts set to private, but maybe you're thinking of Instagram models. I think this is indicative of the small percentage of women you're thinking about.)

PeneLungoEParanoie · 2023-11-11T09:39:33+00:00

Nice said

fatbandoneonman · 2023-11-11T20:44:52+00:00

Usually because women have sexism to put up with in the dating world, whereas men have that privilege. Men not getting dates pales compared to the danger and problems women face in the dating world and beyond. That’s why we don’t care.

Women are primarily competing for a very small percent of men who are actually worth it. The bar is currently in hell for dating, so the men who aren’t making it into the gene pool likely aren’t for a reason.

fucksiclepizza · 2023-11-11T21:31:06+00:00

I'm a dude and have zero empathy for male loneliness, mainly coz I don't think there's a male loneliness epidemic but a male horniness epidemic. See it on this sub all the time, men claiming men built everything and that women contributed fuck all, men claiming women bring nothing to the table but their vaginas and are only after a dudes wallet. Why would any women want these dudes, they don't even like women but claim to want one, they just want a hole to fuck.

Pantone711 · 2023-11-12T01:07:45+00:00

I know this sub doesn't believe it, but there is such a thing as a Plain Jane who gets no attention/dates/boyfriends. AKA mouseburger, wallflower...all these women get is derision. I know, I know, no one believes they exist.

_____ad_____ · 2023-11-12T03:03:47+00:00

As a woman who cares a lot about men I find that men are the ones who are often incapable of putting themselves in the shoes of a woman

Cethlinnstooth · 2023-11-11T10:48:00+00:00

Strangers of either gender are limited in the amount of empathy they will bother with unless you are literally bleeding out, or they are trying to further a friendship or wish to build rapport for the purposes of getting something or are creating a power structure. That's just a fact. It goes for women too. There's too many humans for everyone to bother with everyone all the time.

If a man wants a life with empathy from a woman who is not a relative then he may need to make some female friends and keep looking for ones that are willing to talk mens issues. I don't care how big a list of reasons a man gives for not doing this. None of them are good enough reasons. Empathy is easily available... because you get it most easily and reliably from people who have reason to care about you. Friendship is a reason to care. I'm not impressed at all by men who plead for empathy from women but do not seek out friendship from women.

gntlbastard · 2023-11-11T14:46:06+00:00

To be a man is to walk the lonely road. Even married guys know this. It is to take a life that is deemed by society as having no value and actually creating something worthwhile from it. Men and women are born with disadvantages - you view what you have and you craft out the best life you can given the circumstances and times. Not every man is going to have a wife and 2 1/2 kids. Just as not all of us are going to be billionaires. The only woman who is going to give two shits about you is your mother and even then it's not always guaranteed. It's a hard bastard of a life which is only going to get worse by moping and dwelling on how unfair it all is. The world is unfair and guess what, it won't ever apologize for that unfairness. Either struggle to find your level or drown - that's your choice.

Texan2116 · 2023-11-11T18:24:23+00:00

I do not say this to be cruel, however, my GF is by any metric, "below me" in the proverbial 1-10 matrix. She is overweight, and not in good shape at all. I am in reasonable shape, and am athletic(as much as one can be at almost 60).

Now, when we were dating online, she had way more dates than I ever did. She literally had an abundance of choice.

Myself, I did get matches, but not on the level that she did...and it wasnt even close either.

Just is what it is. I suppose.

Safinated · 2023-11-11T08:04:11+00:00

Nope. I just learned that empathy gets you either denial (“you can’t understand, you’re a woman who lives life on easy mode”), misogynistic venting (like your OP) or dick offers, none of which I like or want

Dstar538888 · 2023-11-11T19:50:19+00:00

Well men rarely have empathy for female issues so you can’t ask for something that you yourself are not willing to give 😬 also the reason we don’t take “male loneliness” seriously is because you guys aren’t actually lonely, in your very first paragraph, you mention that the sole reason these guys are “lonely” is because they can’t get sexual or romantic attention from women… that’s not loneliness then… you’re complaining about being sexless which is not the same thing as loneliness… if these guys were truly “lonely” then they would go spend more time with their family members and friends, so why place the onus on random women to resolve their loneliness?? Why not buy a dog if you’re so “lonely”?

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tiddermacss · 2023-11-11T19:31:56+00:00

well the pendulum has started to swing the other way now.. may of us dont have any empathy for women neither.. call it red pill mgtow whatever.. they have been trying to shame men outta it but it wont work

Good-Honeydew-9375 · 2023-11-11T20:57:11+00:00

Cry about it ;)

gopher_glitz · 2023-11-11T20:57:21+00:00

Men should never ever complain or share their struggles with women unless they're family. They don't give a shit, they do not care and they will not care to help you.

sunologie · 2023-11-12T10:39:39+00:00

Question- how do you want women to show empathy they care for this issue??

If you are asking us to force ourselves to date someone we don’t want to, then you are in the wrong and actually don’t deserve our empathy. So what exactly do you propose?

Eezay · 2023-11-11T13:07:53+00:00

I'm shocked to see the unfairness in dating

I feel like it makes it a lot easier to get through life if you accept that nothing in it is inherently fair.

and can you believe they're in their late twenties and never even got to experience a basic experience such as a kiss

They probably don't have rizz or they internalized a lot of seriousness into their game. Or both.

dating apps

Dating apps are a trap insofar as seemingly facilitating dating for men when they actually don't. Also, neither most women nor most men get what they want from dating apps. Most women on Tinder want a serious relationship and most men on Tinder want hookups first and foremost.

also many girls claim that all of them are weird and inappropriate

proving my point

creative ice breakers only to end up in the chat dumpster

If you want to sell sunglasses, do you go to the beach with the other 200 sunglass-sellers or do you go somewhere else? Also, too much 'creativity' is usually perceived as tryhard.

but they have the gift of choice

Choice has a lot more consequences to them, usually.

Guys are obliged to put in all of the effort

That's the way of the world, baby.

but that's ok right

Who says that's okay? Other toxic people?

you can also use your intelliegence to filter out the abusive and dark traidic ones from the flock

You should indeed do that, yes.

they justify saying that its due to the centuries of patriarchal behaviour ingrained in them

Who tf says that lol. Are you talking to political activists exclusively? Maybe you need to stop talking to internet people for a while

why are they so stubbornly against accepting their advantages and being coldly unempathetic to men

It's pretty human actually and also there are a lot of girls who do have empathy, doesn't mean they wanna have sex with you though

ReplacementPasta · 2023-11-11T15:21:45+00:00

I personally know a lot of guys who suffer from intense loneliness due to a lack of a romantic or sexual experience with women in their entire span of life.

That isnt normal loneliness. That is something else. You should advice your friends to a therapists.

Independent-Soft-585 · 2023-11-11T18:02:02+00:00

If you're actually fun and attractive and you're actually actively seeking out healthy relationships with women, there is no way in hell that you are making it to your late 20s without so much as kissing anyone.

You're fucking something up, and you have to be real with yourself about that.

lacuti3 · 2023-11-11T08:28:19+00:00

The thing is I'm not trying to generalise saying that all women have it easier; still when enthusiastically addressing their issues why are they so stubbornly against accepting their advantages and being coldly unempathetic to men.

Girls don’t care about men or sex, they only care about making their own lives easier. Men don’t care about women they only care about sex. People don’t care about other people in general.

Guys always argue with me that girls have to care about sex for biological reasons. Girls actually generally care more about their own survival than the survival of the species.

This is maximum empathy. If you don’t accept these unpleasant truths and reduce your ego then you’re going to be depressed forever.

KikiYuyu · 2023-11-11T19:36:53+00:00

Now people'll brush it off and say you should be happy being single or to seek therapy.

That's not brushing it off that's saying "oh you're suffering, these are some things I can think of to help with that".

I understand why women can never be empathetic towards men in this aspect.

Are you kidding? My loneliness gets brushed aside constantly just because I am a woman, I keep getting told it's my own fault. I can completely be empathetic towards another lonely person, much more than people are to me.

No_Assumption_5864 · 2023-11-11T11:06:27+00:00

Yes, most of the times they will call you a incel or a dangerous autistic man or passive aggressive guy if you are lonely and sexless

purplish_possum · 2023-11-11T13:29:28+00:00

Girls have tons of empathy for lonely hot guys.

szclimber · 2023-11-11T14:42:10+00:00

It's not about caring or empathy. Most women don't even acknowledge there is a problem. It's complete gas lighting of struggiling men most of the time.

Lina-Inverse · 2023-11-11T09:31:41+00:00

People have finite emotional energy. Most women don't understand guys and think they way they as women experience the world is the way a guy experiences the world.

Also it seems your view on dating is heavily skewed by dating apps.

Dating apps are designed to make men fail and be unhappy.

Uninstall all of them, never use them and meet women IRL.

I've seen girls often boast about their intutional radar and how they say that they can filter out needy, desperate nice guys. Then I don't understand what is the problem then, you can also use your intelliegence to filter out the abusive and dark traidic ones fromthe flock.

Desperate needy guys are extremely obvious. Not just to women but to men, it doesn't require any super intelligence, just to recognise blue pill tendencies. Women are hyper aware of blue pill tendencies. Just look in a girls friend zone, it will be 100% blue pillers.

If the guy is good looking or has money or status, a woman will often try fix him. They don't want to filter out handsome rich chad just because he acts like an asshole.

Needy, desperate guys are often ugly (note i mean ugly from a woman's perspective, as remember women think 80% of men are below average in looks) and lonely. A woman can maybe fix asshole Chad into being a good person (maybe he will settle down if he has kids etc), but she can't fix ugly depressed Brad unless she is a both plastic surgeon and a therapist.

Sensitive guys are secrelty looked down by many women and they justify saying that its due to the centuries of patriarchal behaviour ingrained in them and shift that blame also to men instead of showing a little kindness or empathy.

Only online are they secretly looked down on because online most women will lie to you.

Post a thread here asking "do women like sensitive men" and like 80-90% of the replies will be pure cap about how they think guys being sensitive is a good thing..

Sensitive guys need to fix being sensitive asap. Not much more to say there. Fix that shit and stop expecting empathy from anyone as a guy, especially women who don't even know you.

Take a look at marriages also. Suppose a guy, who wanted to experience relationships and casual sex but couldn't due to the circumstances here, would have to marry a girl who may have had a lot of boyfriends or hookups.

Focus on looks and have a decent job and by his late 20s early 30s he won't need to marry women to have a relationship or casual hookups.

basedmama21 · 2023-11-11T14:30:29+00:00

FALSE

I advocate for men harder than I do for women. Why? Everyone kisses our asses JUST bc we’re women. I get called a pick me (I got picked 💍 soooo not an insult) by women who hate men regularly. It has become the norm to hate and bash men. I despise this so much.

I think men get misrepresented by misandrist women all the time, they get their children ripped from them, they are at higher risk for violence and self deletion, they have more dangerous jobs, and rarely get thanked for it. Women initiate divorce for D U M B reasons. I could go on.

I have empathy for men because society likes to take the piss out of them now more than ever.

Deadwalking2k · 2023-11-11T21:15:28+00:00

Agreed, that’s why I don’t have much empathy for their so called “safety concerns” because a lot of it is delusion/on them tbh.

ilike18yoblackpussy · 2023-11-11T21:41:53+00:00

I haven't bothered to look up the studies myself, but according to Jordan Peterson, young women are more prone to loneliness than young men are.

I suspect that men are predisposed to have a greater tolerance for being alone than women.

People say men have fewer social connections and close bonds than women, but I think that's just a product of men, in general, being more self-contained than women are. I think men, general, put more emphasis on getting laid than on finding friends to talking about their feelings with.

WillyDonDilly69 · 2023-11-11T11:14:46+00:00

Yes is true, women in general see themselves as the victims in all regards. The major problem is about women having the nerve to expect men to empathise with their social and biological problems we all know the feminist propaganda and such meanwhile they don't show an ounce fo empathy towards men.

For example shoe head who is a female youtuber addressed this issue on twiter and you can see the video on YouTube and some women replyed with "the suicide stats on men are not high enough" and "that they deserve it because some guy harassed a girl" and all this nonsense.

jpla86 · 2023-11-11T18:14:19+00:00

OP you’re wasting your time. They don’t care about you. They all see you as an ‘oppressor’ so their empathy goes right out the window. They’ll celebrate a man’s demise before they show any empathy to you.

AFuzzyMuffin · 2023-11-11T11:00:05+00:00

It's not that unfair but I'm busy atm ill watch later

pieperson5571 · 2023-11-12T01:09:50+00:00

Men have no value when things are good for women. Good times make weak men.

FatGimp · 2023-11-12T01:13:06+00:00

No one gives a fuck about you.

That's it.

That's the answer to life.

No one gives a fuck about you. So why do you care about what they think?

BCRE8TVE · 2023-11-12T07:39:05+00:00

I gotta say, this couldn't be timed better. There's a lovely thread just above this one entitled Men’s loneliness epidemic is not women’s problem.

I also love to see the complete lack of empathy towards men displayed by some of the commenters in this very thread, somehow trying to argue that "girls have zero empathy for men" isn't true, while disproving the very point they're trying to make.

Complete_Habit7721 · 2023-11-12T08:18:20+00:00

I call it the "Lois Lane" syndrome. A lot of men fall into this "gray" area with women and it is unfortunate.

First you have Clark Kent, he is emotionally available, he is vulnerable, consistent, very much accommodating, employed, just overall a great guy.

Lois Lane doesn't think Clark Kent is a "catch" just an average guy who wants her as more then a friend. Then you have Superman, the man she desires and Clark knows this being that he is Superman. He is not emotionally available, he is exciting (bad boy image), cold part is she eventually gets Superman, but she wants him to be Clark Kent.

Woman want the exciting bad boy, who can change her oil but cannot consistently keep a job or health insurance. Then they get the “exciting guy” and want him to turn into the Clark Kent type.

Growing up I wondered why the gangsters always had muiltiple women. Then as I got older it all made sense.

mylazybutt · 2023-11-11T10:55:40+00:00

Women have no sympathy and my experience of women is almost as large as Europe. - Florence Nightingale

West_Diet_3729 · 2023-11-11T11:51:24+00:00

Well women generally don’t give a sht, don’t think you’re so special.

SeveralLiterature980 · 2023-11-11T19:33:00+00:00

We could speculate all day long as to why modern culture has turned gynocentric and anti-male (this is not opinion, this is now a fact --- https://www.psypost.org/2023/03/pro-female-and-anti-male-biases-are-more-influential-than-race-and-other-factors-in-implicit-association-tests-74335)

Maybe women make the ultimate working class because they are obedient and personally authoritarian...

Maybe the elites want some form of population control...

Maybe...

Who knows?

It doesn't matter.

In my opinion, thanks to the internet, the truth about how women are is revealed: they aren't any better than men are. And much like men, they like power.

The issue is that civilized society requires a massive buy-in from the male populous. If you do not have this, your society will collapse.

Men are starting to leave and check out.

A supreme irony would be that society seeing women behave freely and honestly leads to society going right back to its old patriarchal ways.

Which I don't think is off the table, to be honest.

lolthankstinder · 2023-11-12T01:31:37+00:00

Have you heard the trend that female students are more than twice as likely to study abroad as their male peers¹? If women are still so horribly oppressed by the patriarchy, why are they 2X more comfortable than men in going to some random other country? And if young men have it so great, why are they afraid to? Something fishy is going on...

Your article mentions:

For the past 20 years, women have outpaced men in college attendance and degrees.

As a matter of fact, the gap in college attainment for women over men today is LARGER than it was for men over women in 1972². If it was 1972 alarm bells would be ringing and oppression feminists would be screaming. However, because feminism was so recent, many people are terrifyingly unable to comprehend the idea that men could also face their own unique issues and not everything might be men's fault.

I think the male loneliness epidemic comes from women and feminism showering men with hate, shame, blame, contempt, and condescension whilst showering girls and women with praise and empowerment. Young men need to be empowered too.

At what age do you think our identity is most ripe for self-discovery? I think that's in our late teens and early 20s. You know what else happens at that time? Dating. Boys and girls enter the dating world and have vastly different experiences. In addition to all the empowerment women already receive, young women are empowered by a youthful boost to their desirability and get showered in validation and attention. Most young men, on the other hand, get slapped in the face with shame and unwantedness. Young men retreat away from a society that constantly pathologizes them, threat profiles them, and blames them for everything. And, a lot of that comes from women.

National Center for Education Statistics, “Number of U.S. Students Studying Abroad and Percentage Distribution, by Sex, Race/Ethnicity, and Other Selected Characteristics: Selected Years, 2000–01 through 2018–19” (January 2021).
National Center for Education Statistics, “Degrees Conferred by Postsecondary Institutions, by Level of Degree and Sex of Student: Selected Years, 1869–70 through 2029–30,” Digest of Education Statistics, Table 318.10.

DimensionVegetable37 · 2023-11-11T18:36:53+00:00

The real truth is.

Everything you ever read, heard or seen in society about women being caring emotional and good. Has always been a lie.

The reality is the reverse.

Men are the deeper ones. Men are the more caring ones. Men are the romantic ones. Men are the loving ones. And men's feelings are shown to all. Women, children, men.

Yet for some reason we are all taught the exact opposite.

Women are much more shallow than men. Women don't care about anyone but themselves the majority of the time.women aren't romantic, they just want the benefits of being swoon over. Women only care for their children ( if they do ). Women are more sexual than men. Judge on looks WAAAY harsher than men. Women are extremely materialistic. Women display and have little to no honor. Women. Lie and cheat constantly. Women lack maturity. Most women don't have the same maturity as a 17 year old boy until she's close to 40.

Men are taught soo many lies because women want to save face. That's it. Women at age 18 have higher body counts than men in their 40s. Yet men "just want sex"? Men who are in control of their emotions aren't emotionally mature compared to a woman constantly being controlled by hers? Men are abusive, yet the majority of abuse in relationships clearly is shown to be by the woman? Men aren't faithful yet the woman is the one who is more likely to cheat? Women are more educated and on average have higher paying jobs. But the men are the ones who make more because of the wage gap? And there aren't enough "good" men to support her? Which is it?

It's all a lie. It's all about control and power.

Society is set up to not allow men to be how nature intended. But allows women to abuse their power over men while still being a victim and complaining men aren't men anymore.

nateo200 · 2023-11-11T18:00:07+00:00

Because for a large number of women if a man can’t produce money, security/protection, and a higher level of living they are useless. It’s sort of like how some men find women who are not empathetic, feminine, and able to create a safe and healthy family environment useless.

The unfortunate reality is that I think women are creating this mess for the most part these days but that is not to say it’s not on the men to try and fix it but I just think 4th wave feminism rather toxic. They achieved equality and now a large number of these women was more equally then men which is to say they don’t want equality and indeed some simply want “gender supremacy”.

Title	Girls have zero empathy for guys and male lonliness.
Author	bleu_sky
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Comments	497
Date	November 11, 2023 7:51 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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