"more young men struggle because young women are content with staying single" -- except women are actually less single.

howdoiw0rkthisthing · 2024-02-24T16:54:42+00:00

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2020/08/20/a-profile-of-single-americans/

Among singles, women are less likely to be looking for a relationship. This is particularly pronounced adults 40+. So at least among older women, they really do seem to be less bothered by being single.

CasseroleTruck · 2024-02-24T17:41:06+00:00

Absolutely. I don't get this bullshit of "women are happy staying single now b/c of trash men." LOL where? Unless the woman is over 45 or 50 (and even then?) most women are consistently in relationships or temporarily in between relationships save the occasional casual phases. Perhaps these types of women with major issues or exceptional situations are just overrepresented online.

I literally thought of an exception the other day of a girl I work with who is single b/c she was lamenting about being single then she confided that she was in a situationship a few days ago lol.

Nellylocheadbean · 2024-02-24T16:13:02+00:00

Overall the percentage of single women is increasing. I think almost half of women will be single & childless in a couple years. There’s just not enough attractive men to go around.

Men really misunderstood women. Women really don’t want to be single but if the options are be with someone they don’t like or be single then they’re going to go with the latter. Most women would absolutely love to be in a fulfilling relationship but it’s not realistic. So we just accept the fate of being single.

Women usually can get a lot of needs met outside of a relationship so I would admit it’s easier for women to be single. Men typically rely heavily on women for their social needs which is unfortunate.

rma5690 · 2024-02-24T17:50:40+00:00

As stated previously, most women aren't actually "single". That is to say, it is infinitly easier to be happy single when you are secure in the knowledge that you can stop being single in a matter of hours. It's infinitely easier to say a bad relationship is worse than no relationship when we're talking about hours-longs to weeks-long droughts, not years to decades-long droughts.

There is absolutely no comparison.

dacution · 2024-02-24T16:03:31+00:00

Women’s definition of single isn’t always accurate. Some women will say they aren’t single when they’re just “seeing someone”.

MsCalcaneus · 2024-02-24T16:01:16+00:00

Since I began dating at age 15 I have hardly ever been single for more than a few months, and always by choice. Getting a relationship is super duper easy, so if I wanted one it was a gimme. Does that mean the boyfriends were all Prizes? No. It was better to be single than continue dating him.

alebruto · 2024-02-24T16:12:13+00:00

It's simple.

Chad is dating 3 girls and none of them consider themselves single, while he who is dating all 3 considers himself single.

You go into the 3's Facebook and you will find in the statuses that they are in a relationship, then you go into Chad's Facebook and the part where it shows the relationship status will be hidden.

GlitterAndFireballs · 2024-02-24T16:08:24+00:00

Maybe they’re dating men in their 30s?
Maybe they’re being very loose with their definitions?

ConstanceVigilante · 2024-02-24T16:28:10+00:00

Maybe the women in their late 20s are dating older men, which skews the data. Or even if the dumb “multiple women dating chad” idea actually is true, in reality they are all single (just because they claim that they’re not single doesn’t mean that they aren’t)

Bottom line is, they’re not complaining and whining online about being single constantly. Men are. If men also want to make up imaginary girlfriends and claim that they aren’t single to be happy, more power to them.

edgyny · 2024-02-24T17:51:07+00:00

Your link is comparing young women and young men. Many older/divorced women are perfectly happy to never date a man ever again. Similarly older men generally seek (and find) relationships. So there's not really any "conflict" here, you're just missing the big picture.
Older/divorced women are pretty explicitly "opting out" of dating.
Again I think you (or media you consume) are mixing up narratives. Mixing up the narratives generates click$$$.

apresonly · 2024-02-24T18:05:48+00:00

> So no, most women are not "single and happy", they're not even defining themselves as single.

i dont think anyone says "most women" are single?

Most_Read_1330 · 2024-02-24T23:11:41+00:00

Women are never single the way men are. They have orbiters and fwb at all times. Take that away and they would be just as desirous of having a relationship as men are.

Randomwoowoo · 2024-02-24T16:14:01+00:00

The point I generally see being made isn’t that “more women are single and happy,” it’s that the percentage of women who are single and happy is much higher than the percentage of men who are single and happy.

Women, on the whole, are more content to be single and happy than men. Doesn’t mean there’s more of them.

That said: I’m also confused by how there can be such a difference in percentages of women and men single, considering how cis couples are still the majority, even in gen z.

And I don’t know any gen z workers I have who struggle to date. Like 24 employees, all gen z, and all of them are dating. And it’s pretty male-skewed. So I just don’t see this “epidemic” of single and lonely males that keeps getting brought up.

It honestly seems more like a niche Reddit thing.

Toxic_LigmaMale · 2024-02-24T20:42:19+00:00

It’s easier to be happy single when you can just call someone when you’re horny/lonely.

Sessile-B-DeMille · 2024-02-24T17:06:04+00:00

Again, there are more young men than young men, because more baby boys are born than baby girls. There are more elderly women than elderly men because men don't live as long as do women. Only in later middle age are the male and female populations equal in number.

lvoncreek · 2024-02-24T20:33:48+00:00

Yeah most women I know are constantly in relationships

-Shes-A-Carnival · 2024-02-24T18:17:11+00:00

women BEING less single doesnt mean women arent more CONTENT single, it means the ones who stay single are more content with it and not seeking it as much and are less likely to settle for just anything to "not be alone" now that the major pressure to marry and follow the old lifescript has lifted

NotARussianBot1984 · 2024-02-24T19:22:30+00:00

does the why matter? If young women are not dating a lot of young single men, and it's for reasons out of their control, does it matter? What is the purpose?

Why seems endlessly debatable with no way to prove it. Motive isn't needed for a guilty verdict.

scwizard · 2024-02-24T21:46:59+00:00

A lot of women have traded marriage for situationships.

You can say the number of single women hasn't changed much, but the degree of singleness has changed significantly.

A woman in a situationship is substantially more single than a married woman.

Demasii · 2024-02-24T16:13:07+00:00

The numbers just don't add up.

Article you linked is talking about women and men in their twenties. In general women date men who are slightly older so women in their late 20's skews the data.

DeJuanBallard · 2024-02-24T18:12:45+00:00

You don't seem to notice how many girls are 🌈 now?

shonenhikada · 2024-02-24T19:49:58+00:00

Women are more likely to think she's in a relationship when she's actually in a situationship. She deludes herself into thinking that Chad loves her and he's not seeing anyone else. To Chad, she is just another easy lay that he can rely on to empty his balls. But to her, she thinks their bf/gf and that Chad will one day marry her; funny enough, Chad is often married with a wife or has a gf. Sometimes, the woman is fully aware that Chad is seeing other woman and is ok with it. Other time, she is clueless.

Typical_Samaritan · 2024-02-24T17:55:37+00:00

You... didn't read the article you provided, did you?

tawny-she-wolf · 2024-02-24T18:03:29+00:00

We're talking only about men and women in their 20s and I haven't checked how the survey was conducted. There can be multiple explanations for this discrepancy in romantic relationships: - women stating the are in a relationship when the guy doesn't consider it serious and vice versa -> what is defined as a relationship in this survey ? - women may be lying because the person who asks is being weird/creepy in some way - women tend to date older and thus have a larger dating pool in their 20s - bisexual women may be dating other women, lesbians date women -> I believe studies have shown that women are more likely to be queer/admit queerness than men because it's more socially acceptable

If you're talking about young men struggling you'll also note that the study also mentions lack of friends. Is that somehow also women's fault ?

Fabulous_HonestTea · 2024-02-24T21:10:19+00:00

“Women” and “single” are antithetical.

They always have the option of engaging in sex, flings, dates, or relationships at a moment’s notice.

Only men are capable of being single.

M12_cavesrl · 2024-02-24T16:01:25+00:00

Wait for them to become older, aka lose their sexual leverage and then they'll realize how bad the capitalistic meat grinder is

campskills21 · 2024-02-24T18:47:22+00:00

You need to factor in that girls usually date older and not younger. So if you’re 24 or under guy you’re in a tough spot to get a girlfriend. Girls 18-30 are at peak SMV. Guys peak is usually after 30.

Girls are increasingly going after guys that are 10 years older, some girls 20 years older for legit relationships. This girls into older guys is rising, and it’s skewing the number of young single girls in relationships to young men more.

The last part is the meteoric rise of situationships. Girls would rather be the main squeeze of a high SMV man, than exclusively date an average guy. The young girl prob dates on the side, but would call the man she sees multiple times a week as in a relationship.

Most guys can’t have situationships, way more girls can. It can be considered best of both worlds in a girl’s eyes, she wants to see if she can get better too and not be broken up with over it and maintain the stable companionship. If a guy is in a situationship that’s still being single to him, if a girl is she more often reports that as not single.

Girls have tech with social media and dating apps to give them 10-20x the options they had before, this has rapidly changed the landscape of dating. Young women adapted easily to this change, young men are lagging.

noxiouslittleman · 2024-02-24T20:22:59+00:00

Women are shown to consistently lie on surveys, even anonymous ones. Thus data from women isn't always reliable.

_H_a_c_k_e_r_ · 2024-02-25T01:39:47+00:00

Most women who say this are not even single just like most incels are not actually incels. Both sides are trying to sell their narrative.

Suspicious_Glove7365 · 2024-02-24T16:39:27+00:00

It’s because a lot of men date down in age only and a lot of women date up in age only. Single men who are in totally different age brackets still get with much younger women, but the women in that higher age bracket are generally limited to only the men older than them. So the older a man gets, theoretically, the more options he has. And the older a woman gets, theoretically, the less options she has—SPEAKING PURELY ABOUT AGE. A 20 year old guy is pretty limited because he basically only dates a woman who is 18-20 years old. But a man who is 35 could theoretically date a woman in the 18-35 age range.

Far-Alarm-2740 · 2024-02-24T21:09:30+00:00

Single women? Does that exist? Maybe 1 in 1000. Women are never truly single.

Ok-Remove3693 · 2024-02-24T16:57:19+00:00

women were going their own way quietly then men started mgtow and red pill ideology to bitch and moan 😂

sivarias · 2024-02-24T18:52:41+00:00

You know that's a self reported study, right?

You know women have always historically delulued themselves into thinking a FWB relationship exists when it doesn't actually exist, right?

Women have also historically dated older men. Age gaps of 5ish year's are pretty common.

So ignore the clickbait headline. It's misrepresenting the source data.

PixelizedPlayer · 2024-02-24T21:19:05+00:00

If men are struggling because they don't have a woman in their life then they have failed to be independant men.

Lonely_Most7905 · 2024-02-24T21:35:56+00:00

I don’t give a fuck about the particular type of young men “struggling” who barely see women as capable of human experiences. Rot.

There’s like multiple comments in a row here of the same old misogynistic horseshit—“women are incapable of being single”

That’s wild. I have no idea what the fuck you call all the young and old women I know who want a partner but can’t seem to find one. I’m sure there’s some other fucked up misogynistic excuse for that too from these same “Men” . So who actually gives a fuck about the “struggle”. Nature takes its rightful course. It’s comical to see these same dudes seek empathy for their “plight” even though they are completely incapable of dishing it out themselves. Oh the fucking horror. Boo hoo

Nihi1986 · 2024-02-24T17:41:19+00:00

Real single women aren't happy, at all... Women in situationships with Chad might be happy, dunno, but single women definitely aren't, they are, indeed, absolutely miserable.

Sure-Vermicelli4369 · 2024-02-24T20:22:16+00:00

"Women are happier single" is the wall but for women. It's the female revenge fantasy. Women aren't actually happier single. Of course they're happier in a relationship with someone they care about.

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AdEffective7894s · 2024-02-24T17:30:35+00:00

for these young man what do you propose they should do? Or do you think this is just the way future is headed ?

MarBitt · 2024-02-24T17:38:17+00:00

It's possible that most of the difference is simply due to the fact that many women date older men. As a result, they establish relationships earlier than men.

By the age of sixty, there are twice as many single women as men.

27% older unmarried women are poor or near poor, compared to 20% older unmaried men and 8% married men and women. So it's probably not even true that the older women are all single because it suits them.

k0unitX · 2024-02-24T18:09:24+00:00

Age gap relationships contribute to this the most, obviously.

In an online world with dating apps, it's trivial for virtually any non-obese 18/19/20yo girl to find an established guy in his late 20s to date.

Turn the clock back pre-internet, and your dating options in HS and College was mostly your peers. You weren't running into 29-year-olds with their own house and sports cars too often back then as a 19-year-old girl.

The second part of this is hidden polygamy; a lot of these girls who think they're exclusive with their man actually aren't.

It's certainly interesting how I have more access to 18, 19-yo girls now than I ever had when I was actually 18/19.

Flightlessbirbz · 2024-02-24T21:13:45+00:00

That Pew study is highly questionable and hasn’t really been supported by other studies. There are only fewer single women when it comes to very young people, since women tend to date a few years older or their own age, rarely younger, leaving more single men in their early 20s. It evens out in older age groups. I also don’t believe women are generally happier to be single, though single women may be happier with their lives overall due to closer connections with friends and family. Just because a woman says she’s happier single than in a bad relationship doesn’t mean she doesn’t wish she could have a good relationship.

just_a_place · 2024-02-25T07:06:15+00:00

I have noticed that modern women are just more willing to "share men." Literally. How many of you here - raise your hand - can attest that you know a woman in your own life who probably has kids with one guy, but is dating/living/going out with another? The dual mating strategy of women seems now to be more of a multiple-mating strategy. I seriously cannot say I know a single woman in my circle of friends who is not seeing multiple men at the same time.

On a grand scale this boils down to a small group of men bagging the majority of women. One guy can easily be seeing 3 to 7 women at a time while the next guy is seeing zero.

I used to be one of those guys and I was perfectly happy with banging different girls and didn't give 2 shits if another dude would have them as well since she was not my problem once she was on her own and not with me anymore. But now that I have come to a point in my life where I want something serious I guess I'm fucked. You cannot make a wife out of a hoe.

8m3gm60 · 2024-02-25T07:47:37+00:00

I have a relative who is all over facebook every day talking about how amazing and empowered she is as a single woman. When she drinks, she talks about killing herself.

nosingaboutonreddit · 2024-02-25T09:08:59+00:00

I was happily single until 22, I wasn't desperate for a relationship - was just curious. This led to my current, happy, relationship with my partner, for 10 years now. If we broke up, I'd happily be single again. The reason the relationship with my partner works is that we both have our own independence and can look after ourselves. I'm not hindered by him as he cooks and manages his own stuff. We live together. We are best friends and enjoy each other's company. We're both introverts.

If my partner were the type of man I see and hear of a lot; the type who wants a mother figure who cleans up the shit stains he leaves in the toilet and picks up the toenails he leaves on the bedside cabinet, I would definitely be less happy. I don't want extra chores because I have a vagina.

I loved being single and also love being with my partner. I don't think I'd bother finding another partner if my current relationship ended tbh.

Dion33333 · 2024-02-25T11:02:35+00:00

I am young man and content with being single. No way i am gonna pursue these "fake" relationships am seeing everywhere around me.

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