One of the biggest problems in dating is men think they want easy sex.

Lift_and_Lurk · 2025-05-29T15:24:04+00:00

A lot of this is just FOMO bumping into social media and algorithms making young men think “so many people are out living a Chad life, except me!!”

BobtheArcher2018 · 2025-05-29T15:12:23+00:00

I agree wholeheartedly, but I think you fail to capture the full bind. In an oversexualized (but maybe undersexed) culture, men who can't easily attract women are both titillated and shamed by the media environment 24/7. It is naturally deranging.

Gold_Sheepherder6569 · 2025-05-29T15:04:04+00:00

Peter Steele didn't struggle with romance because he was attractive and could get women/sex, he suffered in relationships because of his negative traits unrelated to his beauty. If you can get easy sex with women, then you have the qualities that make getting into/maintaining a relationship easy if you don't have too much negative traits.

Proudvow · 2025-05-29T22:03:48+00:00

If you never got to be promiscuous but all your dating options were it makes you feel like an absolute chump.

wtknight · 2025-05-29T15:18:20+00:00

I think that it’s something that men want the opportunity to try, and I don’t think that most men who have had a lot of sex regret their experiences of having it. However, I agree with you that most men eventually realize that being able to maintain a steady relationship is more important, and often suffer if they never realize this. Nevertheless, even well-adjusted men who now value monogamy do think it is fun to have had a promiscuous phase.

DrankTooMuchMead · 2025-05-29T17:34:09+00:00

I'm 42, but even when I 18, I wasn't the "sleep around" kind of guy. I was always the long-term kind of guy. I was honestly afraid to hurt people. When I was 19, I could have had 2 girlfriends at one point, but was honest up front with both and then chose one. My only regret is that I chose the wrong one (borderline personality disorder).

But anyway, from my perspective as an honorable (not religious) man, sexual desire needs to be controlled or you are going to emotionally hurt someone, or even knock up the wrong person. Yes, it still happens.

As for guys that sleep around? I honestly think there is something wrong with them. Like a fear of commitment or narcissism. How did this become the societal norm and expectation for men?? Sex is like a campfire, a gun, or a car; it needs to be handled maturely and responsibly or you are going to hurt a lot of people.

Condoms break, that girl who says she is on the pill might be lying. You want some 20yo to show up in your life when you are 40 and tell you they are your son? No thanks, that drama isn't for me.

Don't complicate your life by hurting others around you. I realize there are people that lack empathy and don't care, but I'm not one of them.

Junior_Ad_3086 · 2025-05-29T16:44:02+00:00

you're taking one anecdotal example of a guy who probably struggled with drug addiction and other things. not really representative i would say.

even if promiscuity doesn't fulfill a lot of men long-term (it does for some though), being able to have the option to get easy sex will also strongly correlate with having a lot of choice for a long-term partner and often a happy relationship dynamic (because their partner will be highly attracted to them). for men, these things generally go hand in hand, at least much more than they do for women.

the casual dating scene is very feast or famine for most guys. some have a lot of opportunity, some virtually zero. of course the latter group will feel some kinda way about it, especially when some of them end up in relationships with women who have a 'colorful' past (if they even get into a relationship in the first place). men want to be a woman's first choice and feel desirable rather than being a safe backup option for utility.

krauser76 · 2025-05-29T14:59:25+00:00

Steele had serious mental health issues, and there's no evidence that any relationship failure(s) with women were the cause of it

WanabeInflatable · 2025-05-29T15:34:09+00:00

Men often can't get any relationship. No hookups, no LTR romantic, nothing. And then there is internet where they can whine about it.

Problem of men is they can't accept the truth that relationship is not for everyone. And then to go seek fulfillment in life that is not related to women.

Example of man from OP shows that women don't bring happiness. Sometimes they ruin your life. But men who are single don't realize it and keep wanting something that they can't get idealizing dating and women until this becomes their idee fix.

Flightlessbirbz · 2025-05-29T16:54:17+00:00

Well it’s the same way that money doesn’t buy happiness, but poverty ensures unhappiness. And how money only makes you happier up to a certain point when all needs are met. I have no doubt that really struggling to find anyone who’s interested in you is depressing. However, being able to get laid whenever you want is not going to ultimately make you any happier, just make sex boring after a while and give you STIs.

In other words, “enough” makes you happy, “more” does not, and this applies to just about everything.

Technical-Minute2140 · 2025-05-30T03:47:48+00:00

I don’t necessarily want it, but I do want to know what it’s like to be the guy that can sleep around, who women are attracted to. I want to know that confidence, that validation, that satisfaction. In reality, I’ll be happy with one fucking woman that likes me as much as I like her. Just one, God. One fucking woman. Please.

Albedo200 · 2025-05-29T16:13:46+00:00

Alot of average single men are unhappy anyway, they would rather have easy sex with plenty of women and be unhappy than be lonely and unhappy. I dont think there is anyone who claims being able to have plenty of sex will solve all their problems or anything but it would definitely ease a lot of stress lol

But yeah, you are right, finding a quality partner to spend a lifetime with is probably the closest method for happiness. But most average men cant even get that since alot of women are busy chasing after the top 20 percent in their youth. So in reality its either easy sex or nothing for most men. And once the man gets old without having gained any experience of dating or sex, women of his age dont want him cause in their mind something must be wrong with him to have stayed a virgin throughout his youth. So in a way the path to finding happiness by being in a long term relationship also goes through being able to get easy sex.

StreetDifficult1429 · 2025-05-29T14:55:36+00:00

This is just a bunch of feelings and has nothing to do with men’s desire for women. Everyone wants someone special in their life. You are mixing things that don’t belong with one another.

TopShelfSnipes · 2025-05-29T15:15:01+00:00

The problem for most struggling men is who they are and what they want are at loggerheads:

They want promiscuous, raunchy sex and an active bedroom, but present as shy and asexual
They want to play the field and date/hook up with lots of women, but they develop fixations on one woman and invest months and years into "friendships" with her only to confess and get shot down, while believing no other woman will ever measure up.
They want someone who is willing to settle down with them, while constantly using women who are single or relationship hopping in party scenes as the barometer for which women's behavior is made, and extrapolate those values and behaviors to all the women they encounter.
They want frequent, recurring sex, but bristle at the slightest suggestion they should view sex as for her pleasure too, learn about her anatomy/cycles/bodily functions/erogenous zones, or even acknowledge that the female orgasm is not a "myth" (that thread earlier in the week was good for a laugh)
They claim they can be loyal partners while idolizing those who can have casual sex.
They chase extroverted and popular women while being introverted, indoor, and interested mainly in screen-based hobbies.
They don't flirt - and refuse to learn - then get upset when they're viewed as asexual or boring.

They say they want easy sex, but what they really want is to be chosen as they are, while either living a life that's incompatible with sharing with another human, or chasing women who aren't compatible with him and eschewing the ones who are.

katana236 · 2025-05-29T15:22:06+00:00

I mean that's like telling a person who is starving "hey there is plenty of depressed people who eat a lot".

Obviously not exactly the same thing. But yes many men would feel a lot more content with their life if they could just go to a nightclub and bring back a random hottie home. The way Chad can.

At some point they may get tired of it and want a real relationship. The same way a lot of Chads do. But if you're in a position where you get zero sexual interest that is rich people problems.

OMWSpuds · 2025-05-29T17:55:45+00:00

Sex isn't a big deal if you don't have problems getting it. If you can't it can occupy a guy's mind to a great extent.

In reality sex is all fine and dandy but alone not worth the trouble for someone like me with introversion and social anxiety. You still need to interact extensively, navigate norms, there's before and after, not to mention whatever needs to happen via text after or if you're in the same social circle. A meaningful LTR is much more valuable but also much harder to come by, it's not something I see myself acquiring without a great deal of therapy and counseling.

thisaccountaintrea1 · 2025-05-29T14:57:32+00:00

Artists, musicians, and other creative types are affected by mental illness and substance abuse issues at a far higher rate than the general population. You’re right; all the sex in the world won’t save you if you’re not taking care of your body and mind.

That being said, I don’t think having a fulfilling social/family life and being able to pull women easily are mutually exclusive.

Tnotbssoass · 2025-05-29T17:41:13+00:00

How can you pursue a romantic connection with women if you’re seen as sexually inferior by them?

I was a hopeless romantic at 20, fantasizing about doing nice things for a gf/wife before becoming redpilled and then black.

Women truly want that romantic stable connection with hot Chads. That’s the reality. If you’re average looking or below, they consider you a fallback option, the compromise, the retirement plan, the provider.

RayAP19 · 2025-05-29T16:17:30+00:00

Some men are so disillusioned and jaded from the dating process that having casual sex with different women feels like the best option.

I used to love the idea of finding someone special, someone just for me and I'm just for them. Then as I started to have less and less success for various reasons, and ran into women who were just awful people, it made me less and less enthusiastic about dating.

So now, I just want casual sex. If someone special comes along and I can see that we might be good together, I'll definitely consider it, but I've been wrong way too many times (typically due to the feeling not being mutual or being suddenly dumped early on for seemingly no reason) and I'm tired of getting burned.

Fun_Push7168 · 2025-05-29T17:58:34+00:00

Idk, I've had both easy sex and steady relationships. They're both pretty good.

This is kind of like believing people who say being rich isn't all it's cracked up to be.

Actually saw someone say that to Leno once and he just shook his head and said...."uhh, it's pretty good" and went on to elaborate that it's better than any alternative.

Not to mention if you get enough attention from women to get easy sex a steady relationship is just a handful of choices away.

lesliecarbone · 2025-05-29T15:31:10+00:00

No form of pleasure-seeking can make someone happy.
At best, it can be an enjoyable aspect of an already happy life.
At worst, it's the illusion of temporary escape from an unhappy life.

throwawaylessons103 · 2025-05-29T17:28:54+00:00

I think this is mostly a revenge fantasy.

Men who can attract women for casual sex 95%+ of the time can attract them for LTRs too.

Those men also generally get “gf benefits” from a large portion of those women. So they don’t just get casual sex, they also get the cuddling, kissing, emotional talks, support, etc. Just without having the responsibility of monogamy, and having the dynamic on their terms.

I think it’s a similar “RP revenge fantasy” to when men say that “Stacy” will eventually get older, hit the wall, and lose her ability to attract good men. Does it happen? Sure. But there’s also many of them who go on to live great lives.

And for many of these men, their inability to keep a relationship is self-imposed. Many of them (as long as they stay attractive) can turn around tomorrow, decide they want a LTR, and scoop up one of the women they’ve had in the wings.

Certain_Process_7657 · 2025-05-29T15:22:28+00:00

I think the world would be a more peaceful place if men who never get laid could at least have a season where they ran though a couple of easy flings.. Most of these lonely men you're referring to don't actually aspire to be Chad. They just want to get a few 5s and 6s without selling the house.

RichyRoo2002 · 2025-05-29T15:54:23+00:00

We aren't hardwired, it's cultural

babazuki · 2025-05-29T16:34:17+00:00

He was bi-polar, alcoholic, and drug addict. Why would you assume his sexual habits were the cause of his malcontent?

Zestyclose_Sugar4573 · 2025-05-29T16:48:08+00:00

Having too much of anything even a good thing can easily make it into something that feels empty, unfeeling, unappreciative, meaningless, repetitive, unsatisfying, etc. Also, sometimes I can't exactly remember what I did that I would like to remember and have sometimes drawn blanks or blurs. I remember the before and after part more than the act part which defeats its purpose to me.

septiclizardkid · 2025-05-29T18:44:48+00:00

I'm a Virgin. My friend was too. We're both 20 and honestly look pretty good (I don't believe It, he didn't, we both tell each other we do). When he lost his V card, It was exactly as I told him: Nothing serious changed.

Shit, he had fun and a cool girlfriend now so big fuckin' ups to him. Point Is, no rush for Sex. I want It, I need It, but no real major rush In that regard. Do want to lose It to gain experience though.

I'll take cuddles, now that's what I need.

Maleficent-Toe1374 · 2025-05-29T21:38:27+00:00

1000%. I mean just look at what happens to a red/blackpill man when a woman says he has pretty eyes

nowhereman5111 · 2025-05-30T01:06:13+00:00

I think alot of men confuse sex with intimacy. Sure sex is good, but They chase it get it and may still not be satisfied. Where if they had a real bond or closeness they probably would feel more fulfilled.

OtPayOkerSmay · 2025-05-30T01:47:29+00:00

Re: Musicians in general are miserable and isolated, so they are a bad example in this context. Look at someone like Linda Ronstadt if you want an example of a woman that could have legitimately had it all in terms of a billionaire husband, but chose to remain single and adopt because her lifestyle and personality were not conducive to a relationship where both parties had to make compromises. Lots of top tier musicians are crippled by introversion/isolation and/or inability to maintain long term relationships. Look at all the guys who OD'd or otherwise lost their lives young - phenomenal at their craft, with sex, yet no will to live and 100% motivated to just numb all the pain.

Other than that, I think you make some interesting points.. Men are assumed to want easy sex in this generalized sort of way, and some women can interpret this as "men like sluts" and become easy women; but it's not that... I'd like to think most of us want to be the guy that gets easy sex (regardless of if we're capitalizing on it or not) because we are the top dog, not because women are easy.

kratomphysician · 2025-05-29T14:56:45+00:00

A lot of young men need to get in a long term relationship with a hot, neurotic woman. It'll cure most of the angst

EugeneCezanne · 2025-05-29T16:24:47+00:00

Yes, it's generally true that what people need differs from what they think they want. Happiness is, ultimately, a product of the mind, not external circumstances. And a lot of people who achieve a high level of success and attraction find that it doesnt fulfill them, because they'd misidentified the cause of their unease in the first place.

But, it's still a privileged position to be in: to have what you think you want and, from there, be able to reflect. Anybody would take that deal.

Now, on the subject of hardwiring, it's worth noting that every single person has a unique brain. We form neural connections based on too many factors to rightfully catalog, and continue doing so our whole lives. So what's good for one person isnt necessarily good for another. Many men would indeed be happy with friendships and just one romance. For another, it's absurd. There's nothing practical to be done about it. So, right or wrong, when people say what they want, you might as well just believe them unless you have clear evidence to the contrary.

ExcelsiorState718 · 2025-05-29T15:46:53+00:00

One of the biggest problems in dating is men think they want easy sex >

Easy sex isn't the problem thinking sex is free is the problem.

The problem is, men are hardwired to want the thing that makes them miserable.

Unfortunately this is true.

GKilat · 2025-05-29T17:06:42+00:00

Some men are stuck with the teen mentality that sex is everything and that is all they need in their life. Quite irresponsible and short sighted if one thinks happiness revolves around sex and everything else that goes with it like responsibility are just secondary priorities. It's also during teen years that men are taught virgins are losers and some never grew out of it and hold on to it until adulthood. Not being responsible and have no self discipline of their emotions and desires as an adult is much worse than being a virgin.

Outside_Memory5703 · 2025-05-29T20:32:40+00:00

A fame chasing rock star is not a good example of how people react to abundance

And what men want has been pretty clear throughout history, because top men often attain it — a main wife to raise the kids and do business, and whatever playthings they want on the side

Cactus2711 · 2025-05-29T21:12:13+00:00

Utterly bizarre you used ONE man as an example for your entire theory.

He was far from a Calvin Klein model. Looked more like Dracula. Also a drug addict, obsessed with darkness and being a miserable twat. Probably only liked Goth/Post Punk women too who also fantasised about death and being miserable.

qwertyuduyu321 · 2025-05-29T21:22:55+00:00

I’m 25, from a semi-broken family (single mother household). Having had sex with a little less than a handful of fairly attractive women of similar age (never once in a committed & stable relationship), I increasingly get the impression that there’s something psychologically wrong with me. By that I mean that I have real hard time committing (not because of the supposed benefits of “variety”) to someone I feel drawn to. Trust issues, fear of commitment, mood disorders, etc.

Like, I’d much rather prefer to plan and be with a girlfriend, potential wife, in a vacation than getting with someone over a drink in the Mediterranean Sea. I knew that by age 19 (at the very latest) yet it’s still the way it was half a decade later despite efforts on my part (therapy, medication, diet, exercise). Somehow, I can’t help it and with every year passing, the odds of finding a SO drop more and more.

Long story short:

“Great things are not done by impulse, but by a series of small things brought together.”

— Vincent Van Gogh

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bison5595 · 2025-05-29T15:58:01+00:00

Those are two different things. Having easy sex is different than having an easy relationship or marriage. All men want to have easy sex. There isn’t any nobility in working hard to get sex. You still have the same issues if you get into a relationship or marriage

Emotional_Meal748 · 2025-05-29T17:20:59+00:00

It seems like a “phase” of having casual sex is what gets both men and women out of this mentality. Kinda like getting the poison out of your system. Most women have it earlier in life. Most men have it later in life. It’s part of growth and maturity. Rockstars are an exception because the lifestyle and people around them allow/force them to stay a child forever

MarioWilson122 · 2025-05-29T17:21:30+00:00

I can see overtime it might become boring if all you do is have sex and you dont get to know anyone. A man might want to actually have someone in their life that they care deeply about.

Usually men that are in this tier will enjoy having sex with multiple women while also having that main woman that they go home to thats meant for the serious relationship.

This is probably what he was trying to balance but was unable to do so and it caused issues with the actual relationships since its hard to get women to accept that you have others.

Of course there will be people that are miserable in any situation and have hard times no matter what position they are in. I can bet that vast amount of more men are miserable by not getting any attention and having trouble participating in having all the sex with many women then guys that dont have that issue.

Dziksoon · 2025-05-29T18:24:41+00:00

Friends and neighbors make better sex partners than complete strangers and boyfriends/girlfriends

no one’s getting clingy or asking “what are we” afterward. You can laugh, mess up, try weird stuff, and then both leave with your dignity - have fun, get experience

let the more serious part build organically, both men and women need to stop manipulating for their wants and whims like evil kids with no emotional maturity and intelligence

withholding good sex from the man you really like and trying to get into relationship quick, while doing the nasty good part with people you don't care much about is as repulsive like a man pushing for sex from woman on the first date.

PM_ME_ZED_BARA · 2025-05-29T18:35:12+00:00

Easy sex and stable relationship are not mutually exclusive. A man can want the former when he's younger and want the latter later. Different men will have varying priority.

Like, when I was young, I had plenty of sex, and I was happy. Then I got into a stable long term relationship (6 years so far), and I am still happy. And TBH I would be just fine if I were not able to find a stable long term relationship.

blklionhart8 · 2025-05-29T19:24:09+00:00

I think peoples issue isnt easier access to sex its reasonably attainable access to sex. plus not everyone with a penis would turn out like Peter Steele.

critical-drinking · 2025-05-29T22:29:10+00:00

I think that’s accurate, tho I don’t think it necessarily that they don’t want it; it’s either that they don’t understand what they’ll actually get along with it, or they don’t know what they actually need, or both.

Boys want easy sex, girls want bad boys, teenagers want to be adults ASAP, and kids want candy.

None of these things are good for us, they’re not what we need.

ManicD7 · 2025-05-30T00:41:33+00:00

This is similar to saying rich people have a difficult life compared to poor people. No one is saying attractive people have a perfect life in dating. Just that's its way easier to date people.

Although there was a study that showed how attractive people, like celebrities, have more difficult in long term relationships. There's a different set of challenges when it comes to relationships when you're very attractive/popular. I think this is simply because attractive/popular people tend to be become corrupted and are overtly superficial and materialistic leading to poor quality personality and values. For example there's the stereotype that fat and non-hot people tend to be nice, because they have to be in order to do well socially. While attractive people can be assholes and still treated well, so they never have to learn to be a nice person. And if they do, they only act nice when they need something.

Interesting_Ant9947 · 2025-05-30T01:58:47+00:00

Interesting take.

DelDivision · 2025-05-30T04:25:20+00:00

Eh this sounds like money doesn't bring happiness. I for one like easy, why the hell would I want to make it a challenge especially since I hate socializing?

But to generalize, its more about having the option to, its one thing to only want sex in a relationship, its another to have no choice, that your only husband material lol.

DoctorButtocks · 2025-05-30T16:37:26+00:00

Your example is one guy

Cmon now

WebNew9978 · 2025-05-30T18:11:46+00:00

I’m more so jealous/envy of men who has/had a woman desire them to have sex with them. Whether it be sex with one woman for one time, sex with a one woman 10+ times or with having sex with 10+ women. I had wanted to experience those things that everyone I’ve seen has experienced before. I saw men who were legit bad experience it and I thought if they can so can I. What I discovered is that women picked every single man around me to have those things with except me. It left me very heartbroken and very sad. It eventually turned into bitterness and negative opinions on women.

Having sex was never going to solve all of my issues but it still would have helped though. It would make me realize that women don’t see me as some sort of subhuman/monster. That one would at least be willing to have it with me. But life had other plans regarding it.

BrightAutumn12 · 2025-05-31T05:11:00+00:00

Most men want emotional and physical intimacy but when you see others getting physical intimacy without putting in the efforts, it's usual people will get jealous just like how ugly girls are jealous with pretty girls.

midnight_blue77 · 2025-05-31T05:42:38+00:00

The problem is, men are hardwired to want the thing that makes them miserable.

Isn't this a Red Pill? ☝️

nr_guidelines · 2025-05-31T06:23:07+00:00

I would rather women be less easy to have sex with, than have myself a romantic relationship

Miss_Acassia-9374 · 2025-05-31T12:05:54+00:00

My question.... Every, single, time.... Why is it men so staunchly believe that THEY are the only ones hard wired to want sex? HUMANS are hard wired to want sex. Many lose that desire due to different life events. There is nothing wrong with that. It's life.

But FFS, can men ever stop playing "poor me" and realize that women struggle with lack of intimacy. Too. Yeah.... Women can fuck whoever they want, whenever they want to.... Bla bla bla. That is a MALE perspective. Many of us struggle with loneliness, even in marriage because we want ACTUAL quality in intimacy.

Anyway, it's just incredibly common for the men to continue whining about said things, instead of doing anything about it.

Forsaken_Bet4973 · 2025-05-31T21:41:48+00:00

men don’t want easy sex they just want a singular women they find attractive to like them back and treat them well. So many guys right now can’t even get to the dating stage because like 80% of women believe they deserve the world for showing up. Now these guys aren’t anything special but neither are the women they go after.

Appropriate_Cook_508 · 2025-06-01T03:59:41+00:00

My opinion, and not discounting your point at all when expressing it:

Feeling worthy of other individuals is the first step to finding a forever bond.

If sex were easier, that worth is moreso present than not.

Women, for instance, find it easy to feel worth from others, but oftentimes have difficulties in relationships and such due to individuality.

However, and I CANNOT stress this enough; you absolutely cannot know what you truly want until you have fulfilled the wants you currently have. Every individual needs the journey life has to offer to find themselves, and there is no shortcut. But some travel much longer, more unfortunate and unexciting road. If I could ask for anything, it's for more of those roads not to be so unfortunate and unexciting for those individuals.

nr_guidelines · 2025-06-01T06:14:53+00:00

Men when self-aware of their primal instinct, tend to rank their preferences of what to be like this

1 Awesome- Being a chad with successful LTR (they exist, Steele isn't all of them)

2 Good- Being a chad with dysfunctional relationships (like Steele)

3 Okay- Being totally single and peaceful

4 Bummer- Being a cuck with successful LTR

5 Hell- Being a cuck with dysfunctional relationships

Green-Quantity1032 · 2025-06-01T16:56:11+00:00

His case is famous exactly because it's a weird case.

Attractive people on average marry attractive partners who earn more, are more mentally stable, higher intellect etc etc.

Multiply by 9 billion people and variance explodes - but on all else equals being very attractive will absolutely change your life, and usually for the better.

Would all men crying on here be happy had they had that? no.

Would their life probably be better? yes.

EDIT: In terms of anecdotes - the best times for me were times where I got a hot girl I wanted, even if for a one night drunken make-out.

Sure, I like solving computer science problems and learning machine-learning - but that's not what I think of when I think of happy times in my life.

b0f0s0f · 2025-06-02T21:47:55+00:00

I've passed up multiple hook up opportunities because it's not my style. Now I'm just afraid that in today's society I won't be able to find a woman who holds the same values.

False_Grit · 2025-06-03T10:11:01+00:00

You're only saying this because you're projecting your sexual greed, technophobia, and sexual psychopathy onto men. Most men and women on this subreddit are psychopaths or psychopathic and needs to learn to have a lot more sexual empathy for men at least only because sexual technology exists. You and most of the people on this subreddit are evidence that sex dolls and sex robots can't arrive fast enough.

DivineGeneralxox · 2025-06-04T08:53:14+00:00

Chads are miserable because they have come to the realisation that if he can easily sprint through girls, there are chads also currently running through his future wife.

Anonsfavourite · 2025-05-29T15:08:55+00:00

I feel like most humans have their own preferences and hate what they can't get. I have a tall guy friend who kept getting propositioned from women to hook up with him and he never took any of them for a long time. He always complained about feeling objectified and even asked me why women don't look at him as relationship material. I even asked him if he wanted to be considered husband material and he said yes. One day he just eventually slept with one of the girls and he immediately regretted it and said meaningless sex was not worth it and he felt ashamed. Today he's finally got a girlfriend and I'm so glad he's finally gotten the commitment he longed for.

It seems like the men where I'm from like to beg women for commitment and they almost feel ashamed to be hookup material. Like they won't mind it but they'll be begging you for a relationship before they beg you for a hookup. Even conventionally attractive guys from the little I've seen. I may be biased and judging from a small pool of people I've interacted with. For all I know all the other men I don't interact with want to be hoes. The men on this sub constantly cry about not having easy access to hookups. I wonder if it's a thing of wanting what you can't have. If it seems easy to have hookups you want relationships but if it seems easier to have a relationship you want hookups? I don't know, it's weird.

ThatBitchA · 2025-05-29T19:24:31+00:00

Yes, it seems like Gen Z men expect sex from women.

They seem entitled to sex simply because they find a woman attractive.

cutegolpnik · 2025-05-29T16:47:36+00:00

“Got caught in a domestic violence incident”

Men are allergic to accountability

He went to jail bc he chose to get physically violent w someone.

anonymousppd123123 · 2025-05-29T18:20:40+00:00

Look, somebody lost on tutorial mode

Expert is the best option for you

KamuiObito · 2025-05-29T18:52:13+00:00

I just wanna bihh to myself lol. Don’t nobody want prostitutes.

WhatTheyWanttoHear · 2025-05-29T21:48:05+00:00

You're just making the point that women should avoid such men.

bloopyboo · 2025-05-30T00:44:29+00:00

I mean I'm not gonna agree or disagree with the premise of what you're saying, but I'm going to say your logic is absolute shit-tier

This would be like saying "most people THINK they want a billion dollars but hey I know ONE EXAMPLE of a sad billionaire so clearly you shouldn't be desiring having a billion dollars"

Former_Range_1730 · 2025-05-29T17:32:29+00:00

I disagree. There's plenty of men who get all the ladies, and are living happy lives to the fullest.

Men's biggest problems in dating is actually ignoring the complications of sexuality. If more men were aware that not 5%, but a substantially large number of women are on the non hetero spectrum, and that sexuality largely determines political beliefs, men would have a much clearer understanding of who to date in order to have success with women.

Title	One of the biggest problems in dating is men think they want easy sex.
Author	False_Grit
Upvotes	119
Comments	415
Date	May 29, 2025 2:28 PM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PurplePillDebate
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Friends and neighbors make better sex partners than complete strangers and boyfriends/girlfriends