How is this even a question??!!

emptiness1017 · 2021-04-27T12:12:21+00:00

“We haven’t made things official”

Translation- I’ve been sleeping with a guy that doesn’t like me and expects me to pay for everything because he doesn’t want to waste money on me while he looks for another woman.

janeaustenfan99 · 2021-04-27T11:00:05+00:00

If he can’t spend $4 on someone else he has no business dating

me_ology · 2021-04-27T11:04:13+00:00

I don't like how she needs to ask other people if it's a red flag when she already doesn't like the behaviour. Regardless of what anyone else thinks, if you don't like how he's acting, that's a red flag for you.

She just doesn't see her worth because it's like she doesn't know if it's okay for her to be upset over a man treating her like that.

divination__ · 2021-04-27T12:13:14+00:00

it's amazing how this fear of being seen as petty or a gold digger is so deeply entrenched in women that they permit men to be the pettiest gold diggers.

There's this false idea that men who are generous aren't careful with their money, or that they're meaner than the broke guy with a heart of gold. It's not true at all, not in my experiences or that of my friends. Remember - you give with your heart, not your hand. Being broke is not an excuse to not be generous.

And on the subject of what wealthy men are actually like - one of my friends just got engaged to her HVM who is incredibly clever with money and works in finance - he refuses to buy a new car because he knows its a waste of money, but when proposing he gave her a piece of jewellery that isn't a ring as a symbolic gift, and then told her that he put aside ten grand for her to choose an heirloom ring and an everyday engagement ring. Whenever I spend time with them, he gets the bill for all of us, because that is what polite men do. He is also one of the calmest and gentlest people I know (he wakes up early every day to bring her tea in bed). Don't let them think you can't have it all or that you're better off settling for someone broke or ugly because at least then you won't get abused - there's every chance you will still get abused, but also by some broke or ugly guy. Hold out for someone who ticks all your boxes or be alone, that is better than the indignity of that post. And remember - what happens in the beginning is the marker from where things go downhill. If he won't pay for you on the first date, you will receive absolutely nothing from him.

nonchalant77 · 2021-04-27T12:28:28+00:00

She needs a FDS SWAT Team to bust down her door and rescue her from this fog she is in.

shelballama · 2021-04-27T12:20:12+00:00

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CuntWaffe · 2021-04-27T11:08:07+00:00

Uh. This is just embarrassing. Also, I'll be damned if someone came into my house and dictated how things were going to go. Pay my bills and I'll make you a meal.

islandmaiden · 2021-04-27T11:00:29+00:00

He's on TRP, most probably. Everytime I read about a man being stingy down to the last coin, I just know he's on TRP. This is one of their tactics: never spend money on a woman. Always 50/50. Get out of there fast. No one deserves to be in a relationship with a selfish person.

ETA: For people who are not familiar with TRP, it's the acronym for The Red Pill. You can look up articles, and there's a subreddit but it's now quarantined.

CrownFlame · 2021-04-27T13:08:08+00:00

This is my first comment here and although I'm not OP, I'm so ashamed to admit that I have been in this same exact position. Not sure where I learned it from because my dad is an incredibly generous provider and a kind person in general. Everything OP says here, between thinking that "making an effort" requires tolerating this, to the "haha" when she says she doesn't feel worthy of being taken out to a nice meal, and grocery shopping for both of them and cooking the meal. I have done *all* of these things and it sucks so bad. I'm guessing OP wants to be nice and struggles to be assertive, but the resentment she's stifling is growing and she finally can't ignore it. It's hard when you have 90% of reddit conditioning us to think we should always go dutch. I hope OP finds FDS and we can undo this way of thinking and find the HVM we want and deserve.

aoi4eg · 2021-04-27T13:16:34+00:00

I dated a guy like this. But only it started normally, with him insisting on paying on dates (I always get my wallet out, but if men say "I got his" I don't insist).

Gradually it became more and more frugal, and with him living with his aunt, our dates turned into endless walks in parks or going "picnicking" with him bringing a blanket and nothing more (he explained it with "there are no toilets nearby so it's better not to consume anything just in case").

The relationship ended really funny tho. On one particularly cold evening we were walking and I suggested having some coffee or tea. He said, "Well if you really want to waste money and can't endure till you get home, go get some, I'll wait here". I misheard the last part and went into the coffee place, turned around and saw him literally standing outside with a grumpy face. Went back and said that I don't want it to go, cuz it'll get cold very fast. He said "No problem, sit and drink it there, I'll wait here" and proceeded to stand outside.

I ordered a coffee, called an Uber, jumped in and blocked that guy on my way home.

No, nothing wrong with being reasonably frugal, I never buy Starbucks, for example, but it's kinda not okay to act like a total jerk.

Now, after writing this story, I realised there were red flags before, the biggest one when we met somewhere to meet his friends and everybody got food and he just sat here looking how we ate, rejecting any offers from us either to share or to buy him something.

AnniaT · 2021-04-27T12:22:51+00:00

I bet there are many scrotes in the comments justifying this behavior and defending him. If a man is not willing to spend some money to court you now, he won't do it later and he'll be selfish on other areas of his life. It will be a nightmare to be with such person down the line if things get more serious.

luxurypinkvirgo · 2021-04-27T10:36:52+00:00

This is repulsive 🤮

Phoenix__Rising2018 · 2021-04-27T13:34:32+00:00

She is definitely one of his plates. No commitment but he gets to have sex with her, she's making meals for him and he's making her pay for half of everything when he probably eats more. What a waste of time.

_HEDONISM_BOT · 2021-04-27T12:49:26+00:00

She’s a pickme and this is what you get when you erase all standards in order to get picked

AlextheAnalyst · 2021-04-27T10:54:22+00:00

TRASH. Is he going to deny you or your sick child medical attention because it's too expensive? Is he going to refuse to drive you to visit your elderly parents because of the cost of gas?

Yes, yes he is.

🚮

CandidKick · 2021-04-27T11:24:17+00:00

Girl, there are so many other options out there. Why settle for a guy like this. He wants to split cost but still expect you to make dinner? Makes no sense. Life is too short to deal with a guy who takes takes takes.

Little-bit_ · 2021-04-27T11:09:18+00:00

Poor woman. How ever did she find this guy appealing for so long?

HappyNovel · 2021-04-27T12:27:49+00:00

I buy homeless strangers food and this guy can’t even get her a slice of pizza.

Holy shit.

instantsilver · 2021-04-27T12:59:32+00:00

I dated a broker loser like this a long time ago. He'd spend all his money on skateboard shit and alcohol, never wanted to go out to eat because it was too expensive, and even when he did take me out there was a spending limit. I once ordered a beer and he flipped out saying he didn't have enough money and to just share his. But of course he had no problem tagging along when I went out to eat and ate 3/4 of the food I paid for!

BananaSlugGhost · 2021-04-27T13:18:55+00:00

Being this “frugal” is a hyper defensive overreaction from a man who isn’t tending to his past wounds. He expects the worst of everyone so he plans ahead for it. This shows he won’t be able to give the full faith and effort needed to sustain a relationship, where partners have to take turns giving their all to each other. Pass.

greeneyesrosylips · 2021-04-27T13:41:16+00:00

"We haven't made things official" "My partner" Uh... 😐

shelballama · 2021-04-27T11:08:31+00:00

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shelballama · 2021-04-27T14:04:17+00:00

On the original thread found this gem in the downvotes.

Ladies, please roast the scrote for my joy: I didn't get into it on the post because no use arguing with a lost cause. For your righteous feminist anger:

"Funny how everyone is calling him cheap, broke etc. always the guys fault right? Sounds like toxic femininity, but unless it’s toxic masculinity. No one will call you out on it. Ya want equality etc, but yet the guy still has to pay. But ya always want same working position at jobs, but guy still pay right? Hey you do you. If he’s not the one move on, but next time ya get drafted for war don’t cry about inequality or expect a man to get into physical altercations to “protect” you. Ya ladies seem to have this whole society thing figured out. And people wonder why men aren’t dating anymore. Ya ask for the world and expect more while the guys just get kicked around called a bum, cheap, broke. But if we call ya fat it’s game over for us. ✌️"

Begin!

burritogirl101 · 2021-04-27T11:43:57+00:00

I'd laugh my fucking ass off if a guy tried to charge me 1.50 for a coffee date. This busted ass scrote really thinks he did something 😂

SnooPickles4103 · 2021-04-27T13:41:13+00:00

Please send this thread to her

lolmemberberries · 2021-04-27T14:24:03+00:00

He's not frugal. He's a score keeping leach.

Yellowsunflowerlover · 2021-04-27T12:52:40+00:00

Ewww this scrote has become her child, honestly. He's complete dead weight. Does he even have a home/job? She needs to block and delete.

Cel_Gabe · 2021-04-27T13:45:10+00:00

Why is she calling him her partner, but they haven't made things official?

Radenoughyet · 2021-04-27T16:41:21+00:00

This is what I don’t understand about men- particularly men on OLD and dating threads in Reddit. Most women have choices when it comes to OLD. They have men saying “I want to take you to this great restaurant”. They only have time to say yes to maybe few a week at the most, probably fewer. So why would they say yes to someone texting them saying “you plan the date, but we have to split the bill”? Men on Reddit get so salty when you explain why they should foot the bill. But then they don’t understand why they’re not getting dates. They truly believe they don’t need to bring anything to the table other than just being men.

daisy_0720 · 2021-04-27T16:19:23+00:00

Some scrote is getting super triggered in this post and frantically downvoting all the comments, lmaooo.

Middle_Finger_6772 · 2021-04-27T11:14:50+00:00

I truly don't understand this! Why is it so hard for some men to spend a couple of bucks on the person they're dating (let alone their partner). They have literally nothing else going on in their lives that would need that kind of money. There's dudes out there who don't have anything saved up and don't plan on saving up anytime soon so the most they're spending is on video games and maybe some other toys because let's be real - these are not men who have other hobbies or are used to going out with their friends and spending some money. They obviously don't spend it on clothing or grooming, and they most likely are not making lavish meals every night which would request a lot of money. Where does the money go?

If they were saving up to buy something major like a car or a property, then I'd suggest not dating for a while or cutting back on the saving so you can treat your girlfriend properly. Simple as that!

Do they not care about their girlfriends? I can't fathom a relationship where I didn't want to make my partner they happiest they could possibly be. I can't imagine being a man who wouldn't want to go out with their girlfriend, take her to nice restaurants, go to events and give her nice gifts. I can't wrap my brain around it.

I literally can't fathom not taking pride in treating my girlfriend like she's precious. All of this boils down to hatred of women and not seeing them as human beings.

R_U_Pennybags · 2021-04-27T12:38:22+00:00

How sad that she had to end a valid statement of “Like the fact that we can’t go out and have a nice meal makes me feel like I’m not even worth that“ with a “haha” says everything. Sis, don’t add the “haha” it’s not funny and you already know he doesn’t value you when you are now his personal chef... otherwise he will “charge you” for a damn pizza... A PIZZA!!

There’s a big thread on dating over 40 where they are talking about who pays on a first date. Literally every woman on there is talking about how they pay or split it. I date older men because by that point in life they should be established enough to cover a meal and I’m also hoping for old school manner and values. These “liberated” pick me’s are literally setting themselves up for relationships (I use that term loosely) like this and then get on these forums asking for advice. Sis he showed you who he was out of the gate! You ignored it!

womandatory · 2021-04-27T11:32:45+00:00

This woman is legit dating my ex.

_mooness · 2021-04-27T11:35:45+00:00

I don’t even wanna know what the comments were saying

1Here4Bach · 2021-04-27T15:09:06+00:00

The odds of him having a wife who shares his bank account are high. He doesn't want to make big purchases or be seen with her in restaurants because he doesn't want to make his wife suspicious makes excuses as to why they should eat at her house or go play a very platonic, non-romantic sport like tennis just in case someone catches him he could say he just playing a friendly game of tennis with a friend.

That is the only logical explanation for this level of frugality.

aliceinlondon · 2021-04-27T12:07:36+00:00

What do some of the comments say?

WestAtmosphere · 2021-04-27T16:22:56+00:00

Yikes, if a guy asked me out and asked me to split the bill he'd definitely never be seeing me again. You know it's real bad out here if he's asking to split on a coffee date, and just a peak into your future with him. Probably the same guy who doesn't believe in engagement rings or having a wedding.

ijustcantwithit · 2021-04-27T16:38:11+00:00

Girl... I’m a princess... I don’t offer to pay for dates. Not until the second one or unless we decide to do something lavish and I helped pick it out. After a time it’s my belief that the person who picks the dates should pay but I’ve not had many dates that would let me. In fact my ex (he’s sharing custody of my dog right now) still pays for her day care and takes her places and buys her things even though he knows it’s temporary. I am and will always be spoiled. Trying to force things to be split like groceries before a meal when you don’t even live together is not good and a red flag. I don’t like it.

SayNad · 2021-04-27T17:17:15+00:00

I would like to go out for coffee with the guy I like and not be Venmo'ed $1.50. Is that too much to ask?

Is this what modern dating has come to be?? WHAT. THE. ABSOLUTE. F**K.

HolaHulaHola · 2021-04-27T17:21:37+00:00

Not only is this guy cheap as fuck, he's exploitative, too, expecting to stay at her place and have her cook for him.

He wants to split everything 50-50? OK then. She needs to pro-rate the rent/mortgage and charge him his share when he stays at her place. Is this dude using her utilities/ taking a shower when he stays over? Again, another pro-rated water and electric charge.

She needs to charge him for her services cooking the meal as well as gas and electric costs used it its preparation.

I can be as petty as hell with men like this.

ComputerCat86 · 2021-04-27T15:04:37+00:00

Why is this guy even dating if he clearly can’t afford to? She needs to get rid of him yesterday

MsXxSelfDestructxX · 2021-04-27T16:56:29+00:00

How did he even get past the first date and they are considered to be dating "months later?" The behavior bothered her from the first date and now it is escalating. Is this what happens when women don't set firm boundaries on the first date? I have so many questions for the OP.

Only because this gives me flashbacks to a lot of the BS my family has tried to instill in me about dating as a single woman. My mom is a life long pick me and would often say how "if she wants a boyfriend she better learn to cook, clean, etc". Coming from a hispanic family, a woman dating or having a boyfriend is always a matter of "how much BS I will have to put up with" to keep a boyfriend.

ekkokekekko · 2021-04-27T14:45:42+00:00

...I briefly dated a guy like this and because a couple of my pickme friends thought he was a good guy, I put up with his chronic cheapness. I am objectively 10000% hotter than him (and fell for the "nice guys will treat you better" bullshit). When I broke up with him I was side eyeing my friends like, "You guys actually thought this cheap fat sad sack loser was good enough for me?"

Funny enough one of our mutual acquaintances who is NOT a pickme looked at me like I'd lost my mind when she found out we were dating. We were on a group outing (pre COVID) and I heard her whisper to someone, "She's still seeing him??" It hurt at the time, but looking back, she's a genuine friend.

Every time I think about this guy I first 🤢🤮, then ask myself aloud, "Have you forgiven yourself for all the trash you've dated?"

Feeling nauseated by my past relationships = growth, lol. I'm happily single now and never settling again.

Independent_User · 2021-04-27T15:27:31+00:00

Get out. He’s trying to impress you at this point. Just think about down the road, when he’s not trying as hard. Just imagine how cheap he will be then!!

throwawayaway388 · 2021-04-27T16:31:47+00:00

Babe is absolutely swimming in red flags 💀

Radenoughyet · 2021-04-27T16:32:11+00:00

Does he even have a job?!

s_slayer · 2021-04-27T14:22:15+00:00

This is repulsive. I would have been done with him the first date. My aunt married a guy who made her buy her own toilet paper. He didn’t let her have a car so she bicycled into town for stuff. She divorced his ass and married his best friend who set her up with a great life. Had his kids, got to travel the world with him. She’s a millionaire now and they’ve been married for 40 years, she became a professor in her later years just for fun, she didn’t need the money. Fuck these cheap ass men, why? Why on earth would you accept this treatment??

WestAtmosphere · 2021-04-27T13:42:50+00:00

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dewiaung01 · 2021-04-27T14:13:18+00:00

The bar for men is on the floor lol

Guuurrrl_okeehay · 2021-04-27T17:48:11+00:00

Please dont tell me this was on RedPillWoman.

Hahaha if anyone request that I venmo $1.50 I would left that on read.

CroneRaisedMaiden · 2021-04-27T17:56:01+00:00

I’d Venmo him the cost of water, percentage of electricity used, amount of natural gas consumed etc. he wants to play cheap? Let’s see how good his math skills are buddy, come to my house and run my bills up, nah. You want cooked for? Lmfao him doing dishes doesn’t make up for that nonsense boy bye 🙋🏻‍♀️

karabnp · 2021-04-27T14:45:36+00:00

I hate cheapskates.

Ladies, NEVER date cheapskate, stingy males!!🤢🤮

I watched that show a while ago, Extreme Cheapskates, and never has a show given me such annoyance and anxiety.

randowordgenerator · 2021-04-27T13:55:51+00:00

runs screaming out of the room

If a man isn't adding value to your life, then he is taking yours.

fairywakes · 2021-04-27T14:41:41+00:00

Girl..I just..I am sad for her. She is worth it and it is not too much to ask. Rule 273.) no broke dusties

AdventurousEmu9420 · 2021-04-27T12:42:45+00:00

I had a boyfriend send me an itemized invoice for every date, literally down to the penny, after 2 months of dating during a fight.

Hoarse_Girl · 2021-04-27T14:32:41+00:00

Frankly I question whether this man even pays rent somewhere

Davina33 · 2021-04-27T14:43:37+00:00

He doesn't even deserve a sniff of a woman, let alone a date. Pathetic.

lessadessa · 2021-04-27T14:44:13+00:00

Wow, he really won the lottery didn’t he. He’s getting laid, being cooked for and getting paid for it too. Don’t do wifey shit for a fuckboy!!!!

agonyandhope · 2021-04-27T14:56:03+00:00

I hate this trend where people say something serious and finish with a haha or a lmao. Just say what you want to say in the clearest way possible. It is better that your point is misunderstood as rude than as not important

assdistroyer · 2021-04-27T14:56:49+00:00

What a stingy cheapstake dusty LVM and what a poor pickmeisha :(

Zurflu · 2021-04-27T15:05:47+00:00

"Is it normal for a guy to not want to put a label on things but comes over all the time for free food and sex?" Yes. Yes that is what they all want. You're not supposed to indulge it 🤯

partypancakesbacon · 2021-04-27T15:34:06+00:00

People invest when they see potential. They invest time, emotion, money, and hope it builds to lots of returns. If they don’t see potential, they’ll consider every act a loss every time. He’s showing her how much (how little) he values her.

LeyMio · 2021-04-27T17:42:13+00:00

It is concerning that she even felt the need to ask this question on a forum... That guy literally treated her like a free prostitute who was stupid enough to stay with him for months.

Theboredshrimp · 2021-04-27T18:04:43+00:00

I felt the pain in that "haha"

CloudRoses · 2021-04-27T18:11:16+00:00

Someone needs to go recruit her.

2021-04-27T12:10:38+00:00

Dating someone who won't even spend 1.50 on her is just not on, especially if she's been cooking him meals. There are two possibilities - either he's that broke, which is a red flag in itself or he's not broke and has no idea of the give-take of a relationship, which is arguably worse.

donttextme_k · 2021-04-27T13:47:14+00:00

Not even my friends will bill me $4 for a pizza we shared ☠️

Watzoo · 2021-04-27T14:04:28+00:00

Oooh, someone’s getting a bag of popped popcorn that sis snitched from the work break room!!

Him: popcorn again?

Her: it’s free.

Him: I don’t like popcorn.

Her: I don’t like spending money. Isn’t it amazing how much we have in common? Hey, do you want a lemonade cup with your pops? Costco had these little samples...

localgirlcult · 2021-04-27T15:31:51+00:00

Love the painful "haha" in the post. So awkward. 'He doesn't think I'm worth anything haha!' I hope she runs far.

BoxingChoirgal · 2021-04-27T13:49:11+00:00

It's questions (?!?!) like this that make me weep for the younger generations. If my daughter came to me with this situation I would shake her by her dumbass shoulders. And if that shitheel she had been catering to was anywhere within reach I would slap him silly.

What the hell is going on?

The bar has sunk so low you'd have to go spelunking to find it!!! ... While you're at it how about dredging up your self-esteem from the abyss?

FFS, Men are Dogs. Get it through your head. They must be managed.

In fact they like to be managed. Lots of rewards for good behaviour. Zero tolerance for fuckery.

And if that's too much work (which is understandable), then enjoy your life, friends, family and your own company. The work of being with a man only pays off if he is of high value and you consistently maintain your own sense of high value.

Even a Good dog will develop bad habits if you let it.(not that this guy is anything but a stray mutt)

How about this: Take a look at your own finances and set aside enough to take yourself out to a beautiful dinner or brunch once every few weeks or so. He's not invited.

Chemical-Source-9600 · 2021-04-27T12:50:08+00:00

This is so sad. I want better for her but she had fleshy it too. That comes with growth so hopefully one day she realizes her worth and cuts this leech off

circescircus · 2021-04-27T13:26:22+00:00

This is sooo sad.

GabbaG0ul · 2021-04-27T14:25:59+00:00

Omg, I just can’t. They’ve been seeing each other for months?!?!? How?!?!? How was it not over at $4 for pizza? I guarantee she is sleeping with him, too. Girl, why?!?

Eva4ever28 · 2021-04-27T12:29:46+00:00

OMG 🤮 hahaha

Human_Summer_1709 · 2021-04-27T18:04:59+00:00

Well, at least she got picked.

ConnectBlueberry9276 · 2021-04-28T15:34:34+00:00

He's not frugal. He's cheap. Period. RUN! FAR! BLOCK 🚫

laffytaggy · 2021-04-28T18:54:20+00:00

I dated a frugal millionaire (I confirmed this many times). He retired in his 30s and lived in such a ridiculously cheap way that was not enjoyable. He was almost 40 but slept in hostels and campgrounds when traveling, lived in a crime ridden neighborhood, drove a shitty loud car, and only liked free dates. I made a dinner reservation for his bday and he refused to go (probably bc he didn’t want to feel bad that I was treating us to a nice meal since he always went the cheap route). But the funny thing is he showed up at my place to head on our date all dressed up..but insisted we to a place on par with Chipotle.

His hobbies were coincidentally all free things. He wouldn’t join me in my hobbies bc they cost money. He once called and asked if I wanted to do “a biking date night” in the dead of winter. LOL I bike to get around, that’s not a date. One night he took me to a park at 10PM on a Friday night after dinner. I remember telling him I think we cannot go into parks after dark and he said “no, they only come and check cars after 11PM.” I responded with “so you’ve taken other women here I see.” Then he called me a negative person! The only shows he took me to were FREE community ones. Once he came over to fix an appliance and said he needed to get a spare part from the store. I offered $ for it and he said “no problem, I got, it’s not going to be more than $50.” I was at Home Depot the other day and saw the exact part he purchased, it was $6. Gosh I’m glad that’s over. What was I thinking? First sign of frugalness..I run.

Ikwhatudoboo · 2021-04-28T23:13:29+00:00

Nawww she gonna be paying for his bills at this rate if she keeps this up! Time to give him the boot !!! Bye 👋

lizzieg884 · 2021-04-27T11:50:04+00:00

Run! It is not worth it and the longer you are together the worse it will be. Had he ever paid for a meal?

usernametaken_1984 · 2021-04-27T13:28:18+00:00

Throw this guy in the garbage. 🗑

nutterbye · 2021-04-27T15:47:47+00:00

I don't think that flag can get any redder. Run fast and run far.

Achange_isagoodone · 2021-04-27T15:48:56+00:00

Hmmmmm then you should Venmo him for all the mess you’ve been putting up with.Drop him. Mariah Carey him, sweetie.

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IgetUsernameScraps · 2021-04-27T19:55:52+00:00

Reading this makes me feel literal pain for this girl. I’ve dated a cheap man before but damn, this is just 😱

throwaway32132134 · 2021-04-27T20:51:09+00:00

He doesn't respect her. Block and delete.

greenetea63 · 2021-04-27T22:59:53+00:00

macsmomscigarette · 2021-04-28T04:03:15+00:00

Wait...

This dude CHARGED her $4 DOLLARS for PIZZA on the FIRST date?!?!?!?!?

I’ve given WAY too many chances to way too many scrotes. But that woulda been a wrap for me.

seashellsupplier · 2021-04-28T07:52:25+00:00

My ex was literally like this. Down to the cent 🤡

feistykalorina · 2021-04-28T13:12:25+00:00

Stoped reading at charged me 4$

Title	How is this even a question??!!
Author	Guyincognito9876
Upvotes	1735
Comments	248
Date	April 27, 2021 10:05 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/FemaleDatingStrategy
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